1 00:00:06,131 --> 00:00:08,717 ["Dance You Outta My Head" by Cat Janice playing] 2 00:00:14,723 --> 00:00:17,726 What in the America's Next Top Model with fine-ass Nigel Barker 3 00:00:17,809 --> 00:00:19,686 is goin' on right now? 4 00:00:19,769 --> 00:00:22,022 Let's start the show! 5 00:00:22,105 --> 00:00:23,690 Peppermint! 6 00:00:23,773 --> 00:00:27,444 He is an Italian stallion with a heart of gold. 7 00:00:27,527 --> 00:00:30,822 He speaks four languages, 8 00:00:30,905 --> 00:00:37,328 but his most fluent language is the language of love, bitches. 9 00:00:37,412 --> 00:00:41,958 It's giving tall, dark, and stormy with a bit of baggage. 10 00:00:42,584 --> 00:00:47,338 Hey, but who doesn't love a challenge? It is Luca Berrada! 11 00:00:47,422 --> 00:00:48,423 What? 12 00:00:48,506 --> 00:00:52,302 Stripping is not your thing. I mean, I like it, go on, but damn. 13 00:00:53,136 --> 00:00:54,679 I have a question for you, Mavis. 14 00:00:54,763 --> 00:00:55,764 Huh? 15 00:00:55,847 --> 00:00:57,015 How was your day? 16 00:00:57,724 --> 00:01:00,477 No, absolutely not. You cannot do that to my ovaries. 17 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,021 -They have been through enough. -Make it work, Mavis. 18 00:01:03,104 --> 00:01:05,106 -Make what work, Peppermint? -How was your day? 19 00:01:05,190 --> 00:01:07,358 -[Peppermint] You better make it work. -How was your day? 20 00:01:07,442 --> 00:01:08,735 Make it work! 21 00:01:08,818 --> 00:01:10,403 [speaks in Italian] 22 00:01:10,487 --> 00:01:12,906 -[in English] Make it work, bitch. -Make what work, bitch? 23 00:01:12,989 --> 00:01:13,990 [gasps] 24 00:01:14,616 --> 00:01:15,909 [funky beat playing] 25 00:01:15,992 --> 00:01:19,287 ♪ Okay One time for the big girls in the crowd ♪ 26 00:01:19,370 --> 00:01:21,247 ♪ Hey! Hear me now ♪ 27 00:01:21,331 --> 00:01:23,875 ♪ Go on, sis, yeah Show 'em how to work it out ♪ 28 00:01:24,375 --> 00:01:25,502 What's up, bitches? 29 00:01:26,169 --> 00:01:28,671 All right, Mavis, do you have a Daphne lunch outfit? 30 00:01:28,755 --> 00:01:32,759 Something gray and dingy that makes me look like "the people." 31 00:01:32,842 --> 00:01:36,721 Absolutely. Very approachable outfit in the dressing room waiting for you. 32 00:01:36,805 --> 00:01:38,515 [sighs] Thank you. Hey, Nala. 33 00:01:38,598 --> 00:01:39,724 -Hey. -[Marley] Okay. 34 00:01:39,808 --> 00:01:42,143 So what's the latest on Charles Renee? 35 00:01:42,227 --> 00:01:45,063 Oh, well, going viral at the, uh, fashion show 36 00:01:45,146 --> 00:01:47,607 actually got me booked on that podcast, Culture Chat. 37 00:01:47,690 --> 00:01:50,485 [Marley] Ooh, I love Culture Chat, honey. That shit's so messy. 38 00:01:50,568 --> 00:01:53,363 But I'm gonna just promote the shit out of the store 39 00:01:53,446 --> 00:01:55,698 and I'm gonna get a lotta inventory and sell that shit out, 40 00:01:55,782 --> 00:01:58,284 and so I just… I'mma need you to have some faith in me right now. 41 00:01:58,368 --> 00:02:00,119 -I know you're mad. -Bitch! 42 00:02:00,620 --> 00:02:03,331 To make it in business, honey, you gotta swing big, 43 00:02:03,414 --> 00:02:04,916 which is what you did. 44 00:02:04,999 --> 00:02:07,502 So, yes, I have faith in you. 45 00:02:07,585 --> 00:02:09,921 Otherwise, I would not be here. 46 00:02:10,630 --> 00:02:13,466 Hoo, why you bitches always gotta think the worst? 47 00:02:13,550 --> 00:02:16,136 -Oh, it's your tone, mostly. -Always the delivery. 48 00:02:16,219 --> 00:02:19,222 Oh, babe, I'll always have your back. We're partners. 49 00:02:19,305 --> 00:02:22,100 But this lease is comin' up, so guess what? 50 00:02:22,183 --> 00:02:25,144 If you fuck this up, we gonna burn this bitch down 51 00:02:25,228 --> 00:02:27,021 and collect that insurance money. 52 00:02:27,105 --> 00:02:28,857 That is literally fraud. 53 00:02:28,940 --> 00:02:31,568 Oh, so you too good for fraud? Ugh. 54 00:02:32,861 --> 00:02:35,071 [Khalil] And the word for next week's project is… 55 00:02:37,031 --> 00:02:39,450 "rancorous." Lock that in, all right? 56 00:02:39,534 --> 00:02:41,161 We'll use that in your next piece. 57 00:02:41,828 --> 00:02:43,329 All right, see y'all next week. 58 00:02:44,247 --> 00:02:46,082 Uh… Thank you, Mr. Khalil. 59 00:02:46,166 --> 00:02:48,251 -I got you. See you next week, man. -For sure. 60 00:02:50,837 --> 00:02:52,672 -Hello. -Hey. Ooh. 61 00:02:52,755 --> 00:02:56,217 I'm sorry, but… late registration is closed. 62 00:02:56,301 --> 00:03:01,514 Okay. Actually, I wanted to share some news with you. 63 00:03:01,598 --> 00:03:02,682 -Oh yeah? -Mm-hmm. 64 00:03:02,765 --> 00:03:03,683 What's up? 65 00:03:04,267 --> 00:03:06,269 I sold your painting inspired by Peppermint. 66 00:03:06,352 --> 00:03:07,896 No shit. For real? 67 00:03:07,979 --> 00:03:09,189 [Simone] Mm-hmm. 68 00:03:09,731 --> 00:03:11,316 For $30,000. 69 00:03:14,194 --> 00:03:15,612 -$30,000? -Mm-hmm. 70 00:03:15,695 --> 00:03:19,449 My client was at the showcase, and he fell in love with it. 71 00:03:20,033 --> 00:03:23,119 What? W… Am… am I part of the 1% now? 72 00:03:23,203 --> 00:03:24,662 -Not yet. -Not yet? 73 00:03:26,539 --> 00:03:27,582 Who bought it? 74 00:03:28,875 --> 00:03:30,043 Who bought it? 75 00:03:31,669 --> 00:03:35,965 Please tell me it wasn't the dude who kept on asking me 76 00:03:36,049 --> 00:03:38,301 how I overcame being an at-risk youth. 77 00:03:38,384 --> 00:03:41,137 Or not the redhead dude that kept on saying, "My man." 78 00:03:41,721 --> 00:03:44,724 It was the guy who kept talking about how Harlem is safe now. 79 00:03:45,725 --> 00:03:48,811 So he'll have a piece of my art hangin' in his house… 80 00:03:50,897 --> 00:03:51,898 forever? 81 00:03:52,607 --> 00:03:53,608 Yes. 82 00:03:55,193 --> 00:03:58,363 Look, it's an amazing offer. 83 00:03:58,863 --> 00:04:01,407 Especially for an artist who's new on the scene. 84 00:04:02,700 --> 00:04:03,701 Yeah. 85 00:04:04,827 --> 00:04:09,207 All right. It's Iman the Don, and welcome to Culture Chat. 86 00:04:09,290 --> 00:04:11,459 You know what we do here, guys. We chat about… 87 00:04:11,542 --> 00:04:12,585 -The culture. -The culture. 88 00:04:13,169 --> 00:04:15,296 And it's your boy, Celvin the King. 89 00:04:15,380 --> 00:04:17,131 -[plays air-horn sound effect] -Pew-pew-pew! 90 00:04:17,215 --> 00:04:21,386 So what do we have today? We have plus-size stylist Mavis Beaumont. 91 00:04:21,469 --> 00:04:24,222 She went viral for calling out designer Charles Renee. 92 00:04:24,305 --> 00:04:26,516 Uh, she says he's lying about his sizing, 93 00:04:26,599 --> 00:04:29,018 and she staged a protest at New York Fashion Week. 94 00:04:29,102 --> 00:04:31,062 You wore this ill-fitting number. 95 00:04:31,145 --> 00:04:34,440 Your biscuits were out all over the place for everybody. 96 00:04:34,524 --> 00:04:36,192 Yes. Biscuits were all the way out. 97 00:04:36,276 --> 00:04:40,071 Personally, I like my women thicker than a Snicker. [chuckles] 98 00:04:42,490 --> 00:04:46,119 That's disgusting. Um… But thank you for having me. 99 00:04:46,202 --> 00:04:47,453 Um… 100 00:04:47,537 --> 00:04:50,498 Plus-sized baddies are always being forgotten, 101 00:04:50,581 --> 00:04:52,500 you know, in the industry, the fashion industry. 102 00:04:52,583 --> 00:04:55,670 And designers like Charles Renee, when they throw us a bone, 103 00:04:55,753 --> 00:04:57,380 it's always a ill-fitting bone. 104 00:04:57,463 --> 00:04:59,465 So, you know, I'm just saying, Charles Renee, 105 00:04:59,549 --> 00:05:03,052 why can't you make a cute-ass dress for real-ass women? 106 00:05:03,136 --> 00:05:05,722 -Well, damn. Shots fired. -[air horn] 107 00:05:05,805 --> 00:05:08,016 Honestly, I said what I said. That's right. 108 00:05:08,099 --> 00:05:10,685 He should leave dressing skinny white women to Kanye. 109 00:05:10,768 --> 00:05:14,105 -That's his thing. -Oh shit. Kanye catching strays. 110 00:05:14,188 --> 00:05:15,189 Okay! 111 00:05:15,273 --> 00:05:17,608 -Okay, so you standing on business. -Yeah. 112 00:05:17,692 --> 00:05:21,029 And that is exactly why we have Charles Renee on the line. 113 00:05:21,112 --> 00:05:24,032 -Say what now? -Let's get this convo poppin'. 114 00:05:24,115 --> 00:05:25,116 [air horn] 115 00:05:25,199 --> 00:05:26,492 -[Charles] Yes, yes. -[Iman] Hey. 116 00:05:26,576 --> 00:05:30,830 So Mavis here says that, Charles, that you are a size bigot, 117 00:05:30,913 --> 00:05:33,374 and she also says you can't sew. 118 00:05:33,458 --> 00:05:35,877 No, didn't say that. What I said was I need a cute-ass dress-- 119 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,005 [Charles] I wanna keep it short, a'ight. Not all skinfolk are kinfolk. 120 00:05:39,088 --> 00:05:39,922 What? 121 00:05:40,006 --> 00:05:42,884 Now, listen, you can take my word, a world-renowned designer, 122 00:05:42,967 --> 00:05:44,969 or the word of this thirsty fraud. 123 00:05:45,053 --> 00:05:46,054 -It's on you. -Here we go! 124 00:05:46,137 --> 00:05:47,555 -[air horn] -Excuse me. 125 00:05:47,638 --> 00:05:50,558 -I have styled celebrities, like-- -[Charles] Hey, listen. 126 00:05:50,641 --> 00:05:53,019 Iman, this is why you cannot help people, okay? 127 00:05:53,102 --> 00:05:56,064 I stepped out of my comfort zone to accommodate bigger women. 128 00:05:56,147 --> 00:05:58,274 Maybe they should step outta their comfort zone 129 00:05:58,358 --> 00:05:59,942 and… and… and be a little grateful. 130 00:06:00,026 --> 00:06:01,986 Charles, that is a bit incendiary. 131 00:06:02,070 --> 00:06:03,488 Okay, associate's degree. 132 00:06:03,571 --> 00:06:07,617 I'm sorry, okay? I get heated when my good name is called into question. 133 00:06:07,700 --> 00:06:10,745 Yeah, well, I get heated when, um, you can't even call me what I am. 134 00:06:10,828 --> 00:06:13,873 Why can't you say "plus-size woman"? Why can't you say that? 135 00:06:13,956 --> 00:06:15,875 I have no problem saying "small-dick energy." 136 00:06:15,958 --> 00:06:18,336 Oh wow! I thought you were against body-shaming. 137 00:06:18,419 --> 00:06:22,215 So you're saying that people with small dicks are inherently worthless? 138 00:06:22,298 --> 00:06:24,967 No, not you. That's not what I'm sayin'. What I said… 139 00:06:25,051 --> 00:06:27,345 You guys are tuned into Culture Chat, folks. 140 00:06:27,428 --> 00:06:30,681 We gotta take a quick pause for a cause. We'll be right Black. 141 00:06:30,765 --> 00:06:32,517 [air horn] 142 00:06:34,477 --> 00:06:35,603 What just happened? 143 00:06:38,773 --> 00:06:40,108 [Mavis] Go off. 144 00:06:40,191 --> 00:06:43,653 Do you know how many pieces of clothing I have to sell in order to make $30K? 145 00:06:44,153 --> 00:06:46,322 -You don't know how many. -I really don't. 146 00:06:46,823 --> 00:06:47,949 But you're amazing. 147 00:06:48,449 --> 00:06:49,283 Yeah. 148 00:06:53,704 --> 00:06:54,705 What's up? 149 00:06:55,998 --> 00:06:59,627 Money changes people, Mavis. I mean, can you even be a good rich person? 150 00:06:59,710 --> 00:07:02,130 That sounds like a trick question. I don't know how to answer. 151 00:07:02,213 --> 00:07:04,382 I just don't wanna spend all my time 152 00:07:04,465 --> 00:07:07,135 pumping out pieces for, you know, rich white collectors. 153 00:07:07,718 --> 00:07:09,345 -Get up. -Nuh… 154 00:07:09,429 --> 00:07:12,265 -Khalil, get up! -Oh my God, rapid-fire style. 155 00:07:12,348 --> 00:07:15,351 -Yeah, duh, bitch, rapid-fire style. -[sighs] 156 00:07:15,435 --> 00:07:18,896 Khalil, does earning money help you help yourself? 157 00:07:18,980 --> 00:07:20,106 Yeah. 158 00:07:20,189 --> 00:07:23,317 -Does earning money help you help others? -Yeah, my moms, and… 159 00:07:23,401 --> 00:07:26,904 Do you believe that you can create your own version of success? 160 00:07:28,656 --> 00:07:29,740 Exactly. 161 00:07:30,324 --> 00:07:33,911 You're never gonna be anything you don't wanna be… ever. 162 00:07:33,995 --> 00:07:36,664 Just… follow your intuition. 163 00:07:36,747 --> 00:07:39,917 Like… yo, look at all the shit I manifested 164 00:07:40,001 --> 00:07:41,794 because I followed my intuition. 165 00:07:41,878 --> 00:07:44,797 I mean, sure, I got dragged on a podcast, but I'll figure it out. 166 00:07:44,881 --> 00:07:46,132 And so will you. 167 00:07:48,050 --> 00:07:51,137 Yeah. It's definitely something to think about. 168 00:07:51,637 --> 00:07:53,848 [Mavis] I've been thinkin' about a lot of things. 169 00:07:53,931 --> 00:07:55,016 Oh! 170 00:07:56,476 --> 00:07:57,852 You mean like this? 171 00:07:57,935 --> 00:07:59,312 Um… [sighs] 172 00:08:00,646 --> 00:08:01,772 "Fertile Beginnings"? 173 00:08:01,856 --> 00:08:04,025 Yes. I, um… 174 00:08:05,484 --> 00:08:07,069 I went to a fertility clinic. 175 00:08:08,070 --> 00:08:08,905 Oh yeah? 176 00:08:08,988 --> 00:08:14,202 Yeah, and they gave me so much intel on, um, possible donors. 177 00:08:14,285 --> 00:08:17,205 You know, their height, their weight, where they went to school. 178 00:08:17,288 --> 00:08:18,456 So wait. 179 00:08:19,832 --> 00:08:23,586 You got pregnancy-scared into having a baby? 180 00:08:24,795 --> 00:08:27,340 Yeah. I wanna be a mom. 181 00:08:28,674 --> 00:08:32,970 And I know I can't do it by myself, but… I know I've got Marley. 182 00:08:33,512 --> 00:08:34,514 And I've got you. 183 00:08:34,597 --> 00:08:38,518 Hell yeah, you got me. Uncle Khalil! What you talkin' 'bout? 184 00:08:38,601 --> 00:08:40,520 We're about to be 40. I'm about to be 40. 185 00:08:40,603 --> 00:08:43,231 I need to get on this baby-making train immediately. 186 00:08:43,731 --> 00:08:46,359 Which sounds crazy to say out loud, but… 187 00:08:47,777 --> 00:08:50,404 I gotta make this big life decision. No matter what. 188 00:08:50,488 --> 00:08:53,533 Like, no matter what job I want. 189 00:08:53,616 --> 00:08:56,619 Or what man I want. I have to do this for me. 190 00:08:57,203 --> 00:08:59,497 -You know one thing I do know? -What's that? 191 00:09:01,707 --> 00:09:03,584 -You gonna be a great mom. -Thank you. 192 00:09:03,668 --> 00:09:06,420 -I mean, you damn near raised me. -True. 193 00:09:06,504 --> 00:09:08,714 I ain't drink nothing but Mountain Dew before you. 194 00:09:09,465 --> 00:09:11,801 I mean, I can't believe you still have teeth in your head. 195 00:09:12,301 --> 00:09:14,929 It was insane. The amount of cavities you had? 196 00:09:15,012 --> 00:09:17,765 -It was like they were givin' them away. -It wasn't that bad. 197 00:09:17,848 --> 00:09:19,767 Your mom never wanted to go to the dentist. 198 00:09:20,643 --> 00:09:22,728 -Don't tell her I said that. -I ain't gonna tell her. 199 00:09:22,812 --> 00:09:24,730 ♪ Life is well, I'm in a better space ♪ 200 00:09:24,814 --> 00:09:27,900 ♪ My brother told me time is fake I say my prayers before I start my day ♪ 201 00:09:27,984 --> 00:09:31,445 [Mavis] M.STUDIO says that they're not gonna send us any more jumpsuits? 202 00:09:31,529 --> 00:09:33,823 Culture Chat was supposed to help business. 203 00:09:33,906 --> 00:09:35,491 And we're getting roasted on socials. 204 00:09:35,574 --> 00:09:39,328 They sayin' that you stirring up shit with Charles Renee for likes and views 205 00:09:39,412 --> 00:09:42,498 and that you don't have a real store since no one's ever heard of it. 206 00:09:44,834 --> 00:09:48,087 At least we have no customers to see we ain't got no clothes. 207 00:09:48,754 --> 00:09:49,672 Silver lining. 208 00:09:49,755 --> 00:09:52,758 People need to mind their own damn business. 209 00:09:52,842 --> 00:09:55,386 That's why that shit with Daphne got me fucked up. 210 00:09:55,886 --> 00:09:59,515 You know, fashion is my armor, Mavis, and yours too, 211 00:09:59,598 --> 00:10:04,061 and we are not gonna let those ugly motherfuckers online decide our value. 212 00:10:04,145 --> 00:10:05,187 [Nala] Mm-hmm. 213 00:10:05,271 --> 00:10:07,064 Well, at least Charles Renee is fucked too. 214 00:10:07,148 --> 00:10:12,028 Yeah. Some of his thick models that walked in his show are organizin' a boycott. 215 00:10:12,111 --> 00:10:13,821 It's trendin' on TikTok. 216 00:10:14,530 --> 00:10:19,327 This doesn't make sense, but… I just wish two fucks would make an unfuck. 217 00:10:19,410 --> 00:10:21,120 -You know what I mean? -[Nala] Hold up. 218 00:10:21,203 --> 00:10:24,373 Charles needs to rehab his image and stop the boycott, 219 00:10:24,457 --> 00:10:27,501 and you need to get your vendors and customers back. 220 00:10:27,585 --> 00:10:31,464 So maybe if y'all get together and do a little somethin'. 221 00:10:31,547 --> 00:10:33,674 Bitch, you are smart. 222 00:10:33,758 --> 00:10:34,884 Heh! And fine. 223 00:10:34,967 --> 00:10:40,640 Okay, uh, no shade, but why would Charles Renee wanna help us? 224 00:10:41,223 --> 00:10:47,480 Because together, if we can create one truly plus-size, dope-ass piece, 225 00:10:47,563 --> 00:10:48,731 everybody wins. 226 00:10:48,814 --> 00:10:51,442 Mm-hmm. A little collab for that ass. 227 00:10:51,525 --> 00:10:53,402 ["Karma" by SiR & Isaiah Rasha playing] 228 00:10:53,486 --> 00:10:54,654 ♪ Hey, hey-hey ♪ 229 00:10:54,737 --> 00:10:58,032 ♪ Jackie youngest baby I been crazy since the sixth grade ♪ 230 00:10:58,115 --> 00:11:01,369 ♪ Full clip on my mental Too official for your mixtape ♪ 231 00:11:01,452 --> 00:11:04,538 ♪ I can paint a picture So wavy the boat bends ♪ 232 00:11:04,622 --> 00:11:07,958 ♪ But lately I been burning the candle at both ends… ♪ 233 00:11:13,130 --> 00:11:14,006 -Yo. -Khalil. 234 00:11:14,090 --> 00:11:15,216 Yeah. Uh… 235 00:11:15,716 --> 00:11:17,677 Glad I caught you. Got a second? 236 00:11:18,177 --> 00:11:19,428 -Sure. -Yeah? 237 00:11:19,512 --> 00:11:20,346 Yeah. 238 00:11:27,937 --> 00:11:29,021 Hey, what's up? 239 00:11:29,105 --> 00:11:30,272 So, uh… 240 00:11:31,732 --> 00:11:34,360 I need to be clear on what I want for my career. 241 00:11:34,860 --> 00:11:37,196 And I know you've been helping me become the artist 242 00:11:37,279 --> 00:11:39,990 that people are dying to have in their collection, but… 243 00:11:41,075 --> 00:11:42,535 I don't wanna be collected. 244 00:11:44,704 --> 00:11:45,621 Okay. 245 00:11:47,206 --> 00:11:50,334 Yes, I want to sell my art, of course. 246 00:11:51,585 --> 00:11:54,588 But I wanna be able to control who owns that shit, 247 00:11:54,672 --> 00:11:57,299 like… who… who… who I sell it to. 248 00:11:58,050 --> 00:12:02,179 I mean, and definitely not, like, old boy from the other night from the showcase? 249 00:12:02,263 --> 00:12:05,558 Come on, and if… if you can't rock with that, then… 250 00:12:08,018 --> 00:12:10,312 I'll have to find somebody else to work with. 251 00:12:10,396 --> 00:12:14,024 You are extremely… talented, Khalil. 252 00:12:15,025 --> 00:12:16,986 And I believe in you, clearly. 253 00:12:18,612 --> 00:12:20,865 But that's just not how my business works. 254 00:12:21,866 --> 00:12:22,992 Those are my clients. 255 00:12:23,617 --> 00:12:24,535 So… 256 00:12:26,620 --> 00:12:28,831 I think you should work with someone else. 257 00:12:31,333 --> 00:12:32,877 Hmm. Okay. 258 00:12:33,961 --> 00:12:36,338 Well, I really appreciate everything 259 00:12:37,673 --> 00:12:39,633 you've done for me. I do. 260 00:12:46,140 --> 00:12:47,349 Where are you goin'? 261 00:12:48,726 --> 00:12:52,271 Didn't you just hear me say you aren't my artist anymore? 262 00:12:53,063 --> 00:12:54,982 Yeah, that's why I was about to head out into… 263 00:12:55,065 --> 00:12:56,233 ["JEANS" Jessie Reyez playing] 264 00:12:56,317 --> 00:12:59,403 [Miguel] ♪ The atoms between us Have melted away ♪ 265 00:12:59,487 --> 00:13:02,156 ♪ And we're one tonight ♪ 266 00:13:02,239 --> 00:13:03,282 ♪ Yeah ♪ 267 00:13:03,783 --> 00:13:09,413 ♪ When I see the white of your eyes I know I, I'm doing it right… ♪ 268 00:13:09,497 --> 00:13:10,664 [Khalil] Mm. 269 00:13:11,207 --> 00:13:12,208 Oh. 270 00:13:13,042 --> 00:13:15,920 -Oh, I'm no longer your artist. -Mm-hmm. 271 00:13:17,004 --> 00:13:18,339 [Miguel] ♪ Yeah ♪ 272 00:13:19,131 --> 00:13:23,761 [Jessie Reyez] ♪ And I feel you growing But love how you hold back for me ♪ 273 00:13:23,844 --> 00:13:26,347 [Miguel] ♪ Yeah, I get conceited When you say that I'm the best ♪ 274 00:13:26,430 --> 00:13:28,682 -[Miguel] ♪ Say it again ♪ -[Jessie Reyez] ♪ You the best ♪ 275 00:13:28,766 --> 00:13:30,601 -♪ Say it again ♪ -♪ You the best ♪ 276 00:13:30,684 --> 00:13:32,478 -♪ Say it again ♪ -♪ You the best ♪ 277 00:13:32,561 --> 00:13:34,271 -♪ Take me to bed ♪ -♪ Yeah, yeah ♪ 278 00:13:34,355 --> 00:13:36,774 -[both] ♪ You fit ♪ -[Reyez] ♪ Baby ♪ 279 00:13:36,857 --> 00:13:38,609 [Miguel] ♪ Better than a pair of jeans Baby ♪ 280 00:13:38,692 --> 00:13:40,277 ♪ Better than a pair of jeans, baby ♪ 281 00:13:40,361 --> 00:13:42,696 -[Reyez] ♪ Fill me up ♪ -[both] ♪ Better than a feast, baby ♪ 282 00:13:42,780 --> 00:13:44,240 [Reyez] ♪ Better than a feast, baby ♪ 283 00:13:44,323 --> 00:13:46,909 [Miguel] ♪ Don't think I could ever let you leave, baby ♪ 284 00:13:46,992 --> 00:13:49,578 -[Reyez] ♪ Ever let you leave ♪ -[Miguel] ♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪ 285 00:13:49,662 --> 00:13:51,789 -[both] ♪ And you fit ♪ -[Reyez] ♪ You fit ♪ 286 00:13:51,872 --> 00:13:54,291 [both] ♪ Like your mama made you Just for me, baby ♪ 287 00:13:54,375 --> 00:13:55,626 [Reyez] ♪ Just for me… ♪ 288 00:13:56,293 --> 00:13:58,546 -What do you want to do? -[door creaks open] 289 00:14:02,925 --> 00:14:06,887 -Hello? -Hey… Luca. 290 00:14:06,971 --> 00:14:10,933 [Luca] I hope it's okay. I stopped by your house and ran into Jade. 291 00:14:11,016 --> 00:14:13,519 Oh my God. She doesn't even live there any… 292 00:14:14,270 --> 00:14:15,437 It doesn't even matter. 293 00:14:15,521 --> 00:14:18,649 Anyway, you said in your text that you are busy, 294 00:14:18,732 --> 00:14:20,818 which was maybe you distancing yourself. 295 00:14:21,485 --> 00:14:24,446 But I know when you're busy, you forget to eat, so 296 00:14:25,531 --> 00:14:29,368 I took a chance and… made you a sandwich. 297 00:14:32,538 --> 00:14:37,126 It doesn't sound like much when I say it, I guess. "I made you a sandwich." 298 00:14:37,626 --> 00:14:39,628 [breathes shakily] 299 00:14:39,712 --> 00:14:42,089 Actually, I… I don't know what to say. 300 00:14:49,013 --> 00:14:50,890 This place is really beautiful. 301 00:14:51,765 --> 00:14:56,645 It's so bright and colorful and original. 302 00:14:57,396 --> 00:14:58,480 It's very… 303 00:15:02,484 --> 00:15:03,694 very you. 304 00:15:06,322 --> 00:15:08,490 I should let you get back to work. 305 00:15:09,992 --> 00:15:10,993 Okay. 306 00:15:14,705 --> 00:15:20,085 You asked me if love is just hurting each other and getting over it. 307 00:15:20,961 --> 00:15:22,004 I don't think so. 308 00:15:22,671 --> 00:15:25,674 But I don't think it's just grand gestures either. 309 00:15:27,384 --> 00:15:32,139 I think… it actually might be all the small things in between. 310 00:15:34,141 --> 00:15:35,142 Buona notte. 311 00:15:39,188 --> 00:15:41,231 [door opens, closes] 312 00:15:41,315 --> 00:15:43,317 [funky music playing] 313 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:45,569 [knocking on door] 314 00:15:46,570 --> 00:15:47,571 Coming. 315 00:15:50,032 --> 00:15:51,033 -[Khalil] What's up? -Hey. 316 00:15:51,116 --> 00:15:53,077 -Hey. -I got an idea. I need your help. 317 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,496 -Okay. -I need paint. 318 00:15:55,579 --> 00:15:58,248 Charles Renee doesn't know color, but I know color. 319 00:15:58,332 --> 00:16:02,586 You know… We both know color, and this dress needs a pattern. 320 00:16:02,670 --> 00:16:06,006 Uh, yeah. I mean, we can figure it out, but let me ask you this. 321 00:16:06,090 --> 00:16:10,469 Why him? I mean, why you workin' so hard? You don't need Charles Renee. 322 00:16:10,552 --> 00:16:15,140 Okay. I've actually never been this close to an actual designer, 323 00:16:15,224 --> 00:16:19,019 and they're the ones that can make plus-size high fashion a reality. 324 00:16:19,103 --> 00:16:22,606 And… you know, I know it's just one dress, 325 00:16:23,107 --> 00:16:25,317 and it's just, like, a drop in the bucket or whatever, 326 00:16:25,401 --> 00:16:28,028 but, like, change has gotta start somewhere, right? 327 00:16:28,779 --> 00:16:30,364 -Fuck it, let's get it. -Let's get it. 328 00:16:30,447 --> 00:16:31,448 Let's get it. 329 00:16:31,532 --> 00:16:34,118 ["Let Me Be Great" by Sampa The Great playing] 330 00:16:34,201 --> 00:16:37,329 ♪ These certainly are the signs Many men left to their own devices ♪ 331 00:16:37,413 --> 00:16:40,374 ♪ Tell the story, leaving out the cries It's "Say me, say me" ♪ 332 00:16:40,457 --> 00:16:42,292 ♪ Uh, quite sucks to be the boss ♪ 333 00:16:42,376 --> 00:16:44,503 ♪ The hunter should be licking At my balls, I'm a lion ♪ 334 00:16:44,586 --> 00:16:45,963 -♪ Now, king, men… ♪ -[Mavis] Mm-mm. 335 00:16:46,046 --> 00:16:47,506 ♪ Applause I'm feelin' this ♪ 336 00:16:47,589 --> 00:16:49,925 ♪ But of course What is the cost I'm healing now ♪ 337 00:16:50,008 --> 00:16:52,302 ♪ Dealing with my heroes Always shitting on my flaws ♪ 338 00:16:52,386 --> 00:16:54,096 ♪ When I was younger You was on my walls ♪ 339 00:16:54,179 --> 00:16:55,222 ♪ Now it's "Replace this" ♪ 340 00:16:55,305 --> 00:16:57,141 ♪ Don't wanna ever be an enemy nigga ♪ 341 00:16:57,224 --> 00:16:59,184 ♪ So I figure I could carve my own path ♪ 342 00:16:59,268 --> 00:17:01,603 ♪ Soaring, I'm am exhibit an' my name ♪ 343 00:17:01,687 --> 00:17:04,606 ♪ I'm Sammy, I'm Tembo I'm Eve, I'm Sampa, I'm great ♪ 344 00:17:04,690 --> 00:17:06,734 ♪ Remember when there's doubt, fear ♪ 345 00:17:06,817 --> 00:17:09,069 ♪ You would have your voice In the song, in your ear ♪ 346 00:17:09,153 --> 00:17:11,405 ♪ You can time travel Any month, any year ♪ 347 00:17:11,488 --> 00:17:12,781 ♪ Young Tembo we… ♪ 348 00:17:12,865 --> 00:17:15,659 ♪ Ah, yeah, yeah-eh-eh, yeah ♪ 349 00:17:15,743 --> 00:17:17,411 ♪ Ah, yeah, yeah-eh-eh ♪ 350 00:17:17,494 --> 00:17:20,247 ♪ Let me, let me be great… ♪ 351 00:17:20,330 --> 00:17:22,541 Yeah, I've been chasing Amy Sherald for a minute. 352 00:17:22,624 --> 00:17:24,626 I can't believe she finally got one for me. 353 00:17:24,710 --> 00:17:28,297 Okay, Mr. Renee, this is like that club where Leo DiCaprio spits in your mouth, 354 00:17:28,380 --> 00:17:30,966 so I'm gonna call Simone and let her know that we're here. 355 00:17:31,050 --> 00:17:33,886 Don't call Simone. Simone's not coming. Hi, Charles. 356 00:17:34,386 --> 00:17:36,764 I know I got you here under false pretenses, 357 00:17:36,847 --> 00:17:38,766 which isn't entirely legal, 358 00:17:38,849 --> 00:17:41,643 but I knew you'd never agree to talk to me after that podcast. 359 00:17:41,727 --> 00:17:44,480 That's right. Greta, call the car, call the podcast, 360 00:17:44,563 --> 00:17:47,357 and call my lawyer, my real lawyer. In that order. 361 00:17:47,441 --> 00:17:48,275 Okay. 362 00:17:48,358 --> 00:17:50,486 [Mavis] I think I can help you stop the boycott. 363 00:17:51,653 --> 00:17:54,573 I can. I just need five minutes of your time. 364 00:17:56,116 --> 00:17:58,994 -Three minutes, 30 seconds. -Great. 365 00:17:59,078 --> 00:18:01,955 Starting the timer, and go. 366 00:18:02,039 --> 00:18:04,041 Okay, then, let's walk faster, then. 367 00:18:05,042 --> 00:18:06,335 [Mavis clears her throat] 368 00:18:08,253 --> 00:18:10,255 -Charles Victor Renee. -[gentle piano music playing] 369 00:18:10,339 --> 00:18:13,008 Born in Monroe, Louisiana in 1980. 370 00:18:13,675 --> 00:18:16,929 When the other boys were playing Pogs and basketball, 371 00:18:17,012 --> 00:18:21,308 you were watching runway shows and sketching your own designs. 372 00:18:21,391 --> 00:18:24,520 The first dress you made was for your sister's prom. 373 00:18:25,145 --> 00:18:27,773 Your family could barely afford TJ Maxx, 374 00:18:27,856 --> 00:18:29,733 and you wanted to make her something special. 375 00:18:29,817 --> 00:18:31,443 ♪ Butterfly… ♪ 376 00:18:31,527 --> 00:18:34,780 And you took that ambition all the way to fashion school. 377 00:18:35,405 --> 00:18:37,533 But after you graduated, 378 00:18:37,616 --> 00:18:39,743 just like the rest of the fashion industry, 379 00:18:39,827 --> 00:18:44,665 you decided to focus on thin bodies and neutral colors to get ahead. 380 00:18:44,748 --> 00:18:49,086 But there's plenty of women just like your sister, 381 00:18:49,169 --> 00:18:52,798 and like me, that want and crave 382 00:18:53,423 --> 00:18:55,509 to experience high fashion too. 383 00:18:55,592 --> 00:19:01,390 ♪ Child, butterfly flyin' home ♪ 384 00:19:02,391 --> 00:19:04,518 [song ends] 385 00:19:04,601 --> 00:19:05,602 Wait. 386 00:19:06,687 --> 00:19:09,565 So I took the silhouette of your signature backless dress, 387 00:19:09,648 --> 00:19:12,234 and I fabricated a bold print to it. 388 00:19:12,317 --> 00:19:15,779 You know, at first glance, sure, it probably doesn't make sense, 389 00:19:15,863 --> 00:19:18,198 seems a little chaotic, but… 390 00:19:19,283 --> 00:19:20,701 I honestly believe… 391 00:19:22,703 --> 00:19:25,914 that you and I could make something beautiful together. 392 00:19:26,665 --> 00:19:28,834 Okay, I just have to say I love the dress. 393 00:19:28,917 --> 00:19:31,169 -Thank you! It's so good, huh? -[Charles clears his throat] 394 00:19:33,130 --> 00:19:34,131 [sighs] 395 00:19:36,216 --> 00:19:37,217 We can sit. 396 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:40,721 We can chat. 397 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,933 ["Out Of Love" by Busty and the Bass featuring Macy Gray playing] 398 00:19:47,352 --> 00:19:48,353 [mouths] 399 00:19:50,439 --> 00:19:53,859 ♪ I just wanna come out And say I'm sick of waitin’ ♪ 400 00:19:54,735 --> 00:19:57,362 ♪ Tired of the way you pull that string… ♪ 401 00:19:57,446 --> 00:20:00,991 So, um… you know, we decided to put our differences aside 402 00:20:01,074 --> 00:20:05,120 for the greater good because equality in sizing is paramount… 403 00:20:05,204 --> 00:20:06,496 -Mm. -…for fashion's future. 404 00:20:06,580 --> 00:20:09,041 Yes, it is. Yes, it is. With Mavis' tenacity, 405 00:20:09,124 --> 00:20:12,252 we have Khalil Holland's unique, beautiful print, 406 00:20:12,336 --> 00:20:13,587 with my expertise. 407 00:20:13,670 --> 00:20:17,299 What you see before you today, all of this, this is just the beginning. 408 00:20:17,382 --> 00:20:18,300 -It is. -Yeah. 409 00:20:18,383 --> 00:20:23,972 Hi. Yeah, um, how do you go from Culture Chat to partners? 410 00:20:24,056 --> 00:20:27,309 Well, you know what I realized? I realized that it's up to us, uh, 411 00:20:27,392 --> 00:20:30,395 to just create a space for everyone at the table. 412 00:20:30,479 --> 00:20:33,232 And to also go off of what he just said, 413 00:20:33,315 --> 00:20:35,484 thick girls, we ain't just a moment. 414 00:20:35,567 --> 00:20:37,486 We the movement, honey. Okay?! 415 00:20:37,569 --> 00:20:38,779 -Okay! -[woman] Yeah! 416 00:20:38,862 --> 00:20:40,322 You better say it, Mave. 417 00:20:41,323 --> 00:20:43,408 [mellow acoustic guitar strumming] 418 00:20:44,201 --> 00:20:47,871 ♪ One time For the big girls in the crowd ♪ 419 00:20:48,872 --> 00:20:52,542 ♪ Go on, sis, yeah, Show 'em how to work it out… ♪ 420 00:20:53,543 --> 00:20:55,295 Congratulations, Mavis. 421 00:20:55,379 --> 00:20:56,838 -Thank you. -You know somethin'? 422 00:20:56,922 --> 00:20:57,798 What's that? 423 00:20:57,881 --> 00:20:59,967 -I underestimated you. -Did you now? 424 00:21:00,050 --> 00:21:01,468 -I did. -Okay. 425 00:21:01,551 --> 00:21:04,513 And you even got designer instincts in there. 426 00:21:05,180 --> 00:21:06,848 -You really think so? -Mm-hmm. 427 00:21:06,932 --> 00:21:08,058 So you're welcome. 428 00:21:08,642 --> 00:21:09,685 For the shine. 429 00:21:10,894 --> 00:21:12,145 This is huge for you. 430 00:21:12,729 --> 00:21:13,730 [Charles] Let's go. 431 00:21:14,398 --> 00:21:16,274 -Have a good night. -[Charles] You too. 432 00:21:16,358 --> 00:21:19,611 ♪ Throw your hands up This is your anthem… ♪ 433 00:21:22,281 --> 00:21:23,573 -I'll… -Go on over there. 434 00:21:23,657 --> 00:21:25,325 -I'll be right back. -Go on over there. 435 00:21:25,409 --> 00:21:26,618 [Marley] Oh, babe! 436 00:21:26,702 --> 00:21:28,704 [both chuckling] 437 00:21:30,622 --> 00:21:32,332 Look at you. You came. 438 00:21:32,416 --> 00:21:35,544 -Of course. -Looking fuckin' expensive. 439 00:21:36,128 --> 00:21:37,838 -Is that a compliment? -Oh. 440 00:21:37,921 --> 00:21:39,840 City Councilor Moore. Over here. 441 00:21:39,923 --> 00:21:40,924 Oh. 442 00:21:42,634 --> 00:21:44,303 -Now, how about a fun one? -Oh, hell no. 443 00:21:44,386 --> 00:21:47,055 -That's as fun as it's gonna get. -What are you, an opp? 444 00:21:49,766 --> 00:21:52,978 Anyway, babe, I… I didn't think you would come. 445 00:21:53,061 --> 00:21:54,479 I had to. 446 00:21:55,272 --> 00:21:58,483 Listen, Marley, I am so sorry. 447 00:21:58,984 --> 00:22:00,610 I don't wanna change you. 448 00:22:02,029 --> 00:22:03,989 And I'm gonna have to compromise, too, 449 00:22:04,072 --> 00:22:07,075 if you're gonna be joining me on my campaign trail. 450 00:22:07,826 --> 00:22:09,494 Is that an invitation? 451 00:22:10,662 --> 00:22:12,664 [mellow R&B music playing] 452 00:22:13,498 --> 00:22:15,208 ♪ It's the little things… ♪ 453 00:22:15,292 --> 00:22:17,044 -[Mavis] Hey! -Yo. Yo. 454 00:22:17,627 --> 00:22:20,630 -You killed that shit tonight. -It was so good. Look at this. 455 00:22:20,714 --> 00:22:21,757 -Yo. -We did it. 456 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,300 -Killin'. -I know. 457 00:22:23,383 --> 00:22:26,011 -Couldn't have done it without you. -Oh. Glad to be a part. 458 00:22:26,094 --> 00:22:27,679 -You know what I mean? -Thanks. 459 00:22:28,930 --> 00:22:29,848 I gotta roll. 460 00:22:29,931 --> 00:22:31,558 Where are you goin' with that weird smile… 461 00:22:31,641 --> 00:22:33,310 -Who's smilin'? -…and that long-legged walk? 462 00:22:33,393 --> 00:22:35,228 -Who's smilin'? Ain't nobody smilin'. -You! 463 00:22:35,312 --> 00:22:36,313 This is not a smile. 464 00:22:36,396 --> 00:22:38,398 You look like four out of five dentists approve. 465 00:22:38,482 --> 00:22:40,275 I'm goin' to kick it with Simone. 466 00:22:40,859 --> 00:22:43,862 -Oh, okay. -Yeah. Look, your boy got his "uh" back. 467 00:22:43,945 --> 00:22:45,822 -Well, congratulations. -Yeah, thank you. 468 00:22:45,906 --> 00:22:47,324 -I love that for you. -I love you. 469 00:22:47,407 --> 00:22:48,450 -I love you too. -All right. 470 00:22:48,533 --> 00:22:50,202 Congratulations on your dick workin' again. 471 00:22:50,285 --> 00:22:51,286 Oh my God. Mavis! 472 00:22:52,037 --> 00:22:53,914 What? Congratulations on your dick workin' again! 473 00:22:53,997 --> 00:22:55,957 [Khalil] Okay. My dick has always worked. 474 00:22:58,293 --> 00:23:00,796 Rome? I've never been to Rome. 475 00:23:03,757 --> 00:23:04,966 I… 476 00:23:05,050 --> 00:23:06,051 No, thanks. 477 00:23:13,391 --> 00:23:14,768 Hey. Yeah. 478 00:23:14,851 --> 00:23:17,854 -Oh my God, that singer was amazing. -Incredible. 479 00:23:17,938 --> 00:23:19,940 -Wow. -Was she not? 480 00:23:20,023 --> 00:23:21,483 I mean, the whole night. 481 00:23:21,566 --> 00:23:23,527 -Amazing. -The whole night. The whole night. 482 00:23:23,610 --> 00:23:24,486 You did it. 483 00:23:24,569 --> 00:23:25,821 -Day. -Yes. 484 00:23:25,904 --> 00:23:26,947 -Oh my God. -You did it. 485 00:23:27,030 --> 00:23:28,782 -Day, I love you so much. -I love you. 486 00:23:30,742 --> 00:23:32,035 [sighs deeply] 487 00:23:41,002 --> 00:23:43,463 Let me guess. Jade told you where to find me. 488 00:23:46,716 --> 00:23:48,218 Thank you for these. 489 00:23:49,302 --> 00:23:51,847 But you missed the party. Why didn't you come in? 490 00:23:53,098 --> 00:23:54,766 I didn't want to… 491 00:23:56,726 --> 00:23:57,811 do too much. 492 00:23:59,146 --> 00:24:01,523 But it looked like a great night, Mavis. 493 00:24:02,566 --> 00:24:03,859 I'm happy for you. 494 00:24:04,901 --> 00:24:05,861 Thank you. 495 00:24:06,778 --> 00:24:09,156 That really means a lot, Luca. Honestly. 496 00:24:11,450 --> 00:24:15,620 I, um… I ha… I just have so much stuff to get home. 497 00:24:15,704 --> 00:24:18,081 Yes, of course. You must be exhausted. 498 00:24:18,165 --> 00:24:19,249 [Mavis] I'm so tired. 499 00:24:19,332 --> 00:24:22,294 -Do you need help? -No, I'm good. I'm a New Yorker. Let's go. 500 00:24:22,377 --> 00:24:23,462 Taxi! 501 00:24:24,629 --> 00:24:26,298 Fuck. Oh, taxi! 502 00:24:28,216 --> 00:24:30,468 Thank you. Wait a minute. That was my taxi, man. 503 00:24:30,552 --> 00:24:31,511 -Hey! -72nd and 5th. 504 00:24:31,595 --> 00:24:35,098 -What the fuck? Are you serious? -Hey, get out! Go! Get the fuck out! 505 00:24:35,182 --> 00:24:37,559 You saw her standing there, and you stole it. 506 00:24:38,143 --> 00:24:39,853 This is her taxi, capisce? 507 00:24:40,353 --> 00:24:41,688 Whatever, dude. 508 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,359 Uh, this is going in the trunk. Thank you so much. 509 00:24:58,705 --> 00:25:00,332 [Luca] We'll talk later, Mavis. 510 00:25:01,249 --> 00:25:03,460 -Get home safe. -You too. 511 00:25:22,646 --> 00:25:23,480 Hey! 512 00:25:24,689 --> 00:25:28,735 Uh… I think we're goin' in the same direction if you want a ride. 513 00:25:31,530 --> 00:25:33,657 ["It Ain't Over 'Til It's Over" playing] 514 00:25:33,740 --> 00:25:35,742 [funky string intro playing] 515 00:25:45,085 --> 00:25:50,298 ♪ Here we are still together ♪ 516 00:25:51,132 --> 00:25:52,926 ♪ We are one ♪ 517 00:25:55,512 --> 00:25:58,223 ♪ So many tears I've cried ♪ 518 00:25:58,306 --> 00:26:01,393 ♪ So much pain inside ♪ 519 00:26:01,476 --> 00:26:07,399 ♪ But, baby, it ain't over Till it's over ♪ 520 00:26:07,482 --> 00:26:10,402 ♪ So many years we tried ♪ 521 00:26:10,485 --> 00:26:13,405 ♪ To keep our love alive ♪ 522 00:26:13,488 --> 00:26:19,411 ♪ 'Cause, baby, it ain't over Till it's over ♪ 523 00:26:19,995 --> 00:26:22,414 ♪ How many times ♪ 524 00:26:22,497 --> 00:26:25,417 ♪ Did we give up? ♪ 525 00:26:25,500 --> 00:26:28,253 ♪ But we always worked things out ♪ 526 00:26:28,336 --> 00:26:29,421 ♪ Yeah ♪ 527 00:26:30,714 --> 00:26:35,427 ♪ And all my doubts and fears Kept me wondering, yeah ♪ 528 00:26:35,510 --> 00:26:40,432 ♪ If I'd always, always be in love ♪ 529 00:26:42,434 --> 00:26:45,270 ♪ So many tears I've cried ♪ 530 00:26:45,353 --> 00:26:48,189 ♪ So much pain inside ♪ 531 00:26:48,273 --> 00:26:53,987 ♪ But, baby, it ain't over Till it's over ♪ 532 00:26:54,070 --> 00:26:56,906 ♪ So many years we've tried ♪ 533 00:26:56,990 --> 00:26:59,826 ♪ And kept our love alive ♪ 534 00:26:59,909 --> 00:27:01,453 ♪ But, baby, it ain't… ♪