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Today is Thursday, August 6th, 2015.
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I'm about to do an interview
on Sarah Corbett.
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Well, Sarah, did you know
why you're here today?
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Yes.
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Tell me why you're here today.
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Because my dad died.
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Okay.
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{\an8}Just have a seat for me.
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And, Jack, my name is Brandy,
and it's my job to talk to you today.
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You said your dad died.
What's your dad's name?
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Jason Paul Corbett. C-O-R-B-E-T-T.
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What is your mom's name?
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Molly Martens.
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And what is your grandpa's name?
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His name is Tom Martens.
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Okay. And what do you call him?
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I call him Grandpa Tom.
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Grandpa Tom. Okay.
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Davidson County 911.
What is the address of your emergency?
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My name is Tom Martens.
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I'm at Panther Creek Court,
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and… we need help.
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Okay, what's going on there?
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My… My daughter's husband,
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um, my son-in-law,
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uh, got in a fight with my daughter.
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I intervened, and I…
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I hit him in the head.
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- With what?
- With a baseball bat.
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- With a baseball bat?
- Yes, ma'am.
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Help!
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{\an8}- Is he conscious at all?
- No.
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Is he breathing?
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I can't tell.
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I'm dead asleep in bed
when the phone rings.
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{\an8}As a detective, you know when that phone
rings at three o'clock in the morning,
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{\an8}it's never good.
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So, I'm out of the bed,
and I'm out the door,
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and I am headed to Meadowlands
in North Carolina.
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I go into the house,
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and I look inside the master bedroom,
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and it's pretty horrific.
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It's one of the bloodiest crime scenes
I've seen in a long time.
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The female resident tells me
that her name is Molly Corbett…
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…and that the victim
is her husband, Jason Corbett.
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These offices are really cold.
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- Thanks.
- You're welcome.
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All right. Tell me what happened tonight.
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{\an8}We were fighting.
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- Who was fighting?
- My husband.
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My daughter had a nightmare.
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She or I woke him up, so he was angry.
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He choked me.
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How did he choke you?
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First, with his hand
pressed really hard right here.
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He let go for a second,
and I screamed really loud.
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I can't remember next
until my dad came in.
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Okay.
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I heard arguing and thumping going on
on the floor above me.
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And it-- it sounded bad.
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I grabbed the bat, and I ran upstairs.
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So, I open the bedroom door,
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and he's got Molly
by the throat like this.
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And he sees me coming,
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and he goes around the throat like this.
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And I said, "Let her go."
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"I'm gonna kill her."
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- "Let her go."
- "I'm gonna kill her."
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And he started to drag her
towards the bedroom,
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into the, uh, bathroom.
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And I hit him.
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I hit him with the baseball bat.
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And he reaches out, and he grabs the bat.
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Jason got the baseball bat.
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And… he tried to hit my dad.
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I think he might have missed, and…
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I…
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Um…
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I hit him on the head.
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You hit him on the head with what?
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With… With a brick on my nightstand.
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Okay.
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I'm not sure.
I hit him on the head or the shoulder.
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How many times did you hit Jason?
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I don't know.
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Okay. You don't remember?
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I don't know.
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I can't tell you how many times I hit him.
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I can't tell you
how many times he shoved me.
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I can't tell you. I…
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'Cause it was a battle.
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These two people are telling us
they just were in a fight for their life.
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Her husband has horrific injuries.
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And they don't appear to have any.
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In North Carolina,
they have a right to defend themselves.
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But are they the victims,
or is he the victim?
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You know your husband
didn't survive his injuries, right?
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I didn't… I didn't think so.
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No, he didn't survive his injuries.
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How long have you been together?
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Probably seven years.
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{\an8}My children
aren't biologically my children.
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They're his first wife's children,
and she died.
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Is there anybody that you need for us
to contact from your husband's family?
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Oh God.
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What if I'm scared of his family?
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I'm scared they'll try to take the kids.
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Um…
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- You guys are legally married?
- Yes.
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- Did you adopt the children?
- No.
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Okay, then that's a real possibility.
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Oh!
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Oh!
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My brother got a call
to say that Jason was dead.
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{\an8}He and Molly had an argument.
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{\an8}She pushed him,
he fell, hit his head, and died.
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So I immediately started to call Molly,
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um, and I got no answer at that time.
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I can't comprehend. I can't process.
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You know, I just couldn't believe it.
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Jason and I, we were super close.
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We had a really big family.
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We grew up in Janesboro in Limerick.
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And Jason and Wayne and myself
are the three youngest.
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Jason remained a constant best friend.
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When I had learned the news,
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my first thought
was to the welfare of Jack and Sarah.
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And so, within hours,
I'm packed and on the road
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to fly to America in order to find out
what happened to Jason
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and to make sure Jack and Sarah are safe.
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{\an8}We just knew that we needed to get
to North Carolina as quickly as possible.
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Myself and Tracey were named
as guardians in Jason's will.
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I went straight
to Jason's solicitor's office.
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I collected the will and flew out
to America a couple of hours later.
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We start coordinating
with the district attorney's office
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about where the investigation
needs to go from here.
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What immediately strikes me
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{\an8}is that this is going to be a case
outside the normal of what we deal with.
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I'm a retired FBI agent.
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What did you do with the FBI?
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First half of my career was Criminal.
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Second half of my career
was Counterintelligence.
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Tom Martens is a retired FBI agent,
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and he has been schooled in
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and has schooled other officers
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on the art of interrogation.
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We would be remiss in our duties
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if we ever just accepted,
wholesale and without examination,
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what any person
who's killed somebody has to say.
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Perhaps it would be helpful
if I just kinda launched into the story.
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Okay.
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'Cause it will contribute
to my state of mind.
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Okay.
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I see Tom attempting
to control the narrative
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and present things
the way he wants to present them.
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Tom never admits
that he saw Molly hit Jason at all.
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At any point,
did Molly join in on the volley?
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When I lost control of the bat
and she wiggled out,
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she somehow distracted him,
but I don't know.
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I'm scrambling. I don't know.
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We find that hard to believe.
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The night of the incident,
I'm at the house,
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I learned that Molly's mother
was in the basement.
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So, we get a statement from her.
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Sharon Martens tells us
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{\an8}that they got awakened
in the middle of the night to a ruckus,
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{\an8}and she hears her daughter scream.
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Her husband gets out of bed,
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goes upstairs
to take care of whatever the ruckus is,
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and she rolls over and goes back to sleep.
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I'm… dumbfounded.
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Like, what grandmother does that?
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What mother does that?
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Sharon Martens is telling us
she never responded in any way
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to this horrible, violent, explosive event
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that was happening right upstairs
in a house full of people that she loved.
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It just doesn't quite add up.
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We are also looking at the 911 call.
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…three, four.
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- One, two, three, four. Good.
- One, two, three, four.
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One, two, three, four. One…
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EMS workers are listening
to this recording and saying,
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"I don't think
those people are doing CPR."
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It's too hard.
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You can't count out loud like that
with that precision, that rhythm.
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One… I'll count. I'll count.
One, two, three, four.
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EMS personnel also describe
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that Jason's body was cool to the touch,
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and one of them even looked
at another and said,
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"When did they say he went down?"
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This is not scientific evidence,
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and there are sufficient variables
in how quickly a body cools,
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but it was compelling information for us.
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Now there's a possibility
the Martens were thinking,
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"I've got to sit down
and get my story straight
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before I call the cops."
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We found out
that within hours of Jason's death,
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Molly and Thomas Martens returned home,
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and at this point,
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the children are in the care and control
of Molly Martens and her family.
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Within 48 hours,
the Martens had filed for guardianship,
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adoption, and custody of Jack and Sarah.
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I asked to speak to them,
you know, on the phone,
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to have a supervised visit, uh, anything.
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I just wanted to put my arms around them.
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They had lost their father.
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And Molly would not allow it.
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There's all these things happening,
all at once, all colliding,
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and I want to see my brother.
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We spoke to the funeral director,
trying to get to see Jason,
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and he apologized profusely,
but he had been given clear instructions
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that we were not allowed to view Jason.
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I believe that Molly's trying
to cremate Jason's body
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before I got there.
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I thought to myself, "What have you done?"
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Then we get the results from the autopsy.
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And the autopsy findings…
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are horrific.
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Jason has abrasions on his forehead,
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under his eye,
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his shoulder blades,
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and then… we get to his head.
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And in… 30 years of prosecuting…
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I've never seen photographs like these.
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He had…
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so many blows to his head
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that the pathologist couldn't count them
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because they overlapped,
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and a chunk of Jason's skull
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fell out onto the table.
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It takes an incredible amount of force
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to cause that kind of injury.
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It's taken me four days
of legal action to see Jason's body.
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It's horrendous to see
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what one human being
can inflict on another.
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His children lay in a bedroom
just feet away from him,
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and I know his last thoughts
would have been with them.
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I hold his hand, and I promise him
that his children would be okay,
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and I promise that I would get justice
for what happened to him.
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Jack and Sarah were in the home,
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in bed asleep,
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when this event occurred.
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We need to have them interviewed
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by people that are trained
to interview small children.
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So, they're taken
to the Dragonfly Child Advocacy Center.
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Let's just start with the very first thing
you told me, that your dad died.
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How did your dad die?
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Well, my sister had a nightmare
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about insects crawling.
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She had fairy blankets
and insects all over her bed.
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My dad got very mad,
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and he was screaming at my mom,
and Mom let out a scream,
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and my grandpa came up
and started to hit him with a bat.
254
00:15:48,697 --> 00:15:53,327
And then my dad grabbed a hold of the bat,
and hit my grandpa with the bat.
255
00:15:53,410 --> 00:15:57,081
And so my mom… put her… like…
256
00:15:57,164 --> 00:16:00,834
We were going to paint a brick
that was in there, like, a cinder block,
257
00:16:00,918 --> 00:16:04,046
and it hit his temple right here,
258
00:16:04,588 --> 00:16:05,422
and he died.
259
00:16:05,506 --> 00:16:06,340
Okay.
260
00:16:06,423 --> 00:16:09,468
Now, your sister had a nightmare.
How did you know that?
261
00:16:09,551 --> 00:16:11,095
My pare… My mom told me.
262
00:16:11,178 --> 00:16:12,012
Okay.
263
00:16:12,763 --> 00:16:15,683
Did your mom and dad fight before this?
264
00:16:15,766 --> 00:16:20,270
He gets very angry at my mom
for leaving one light on.
265
00:16:20,354 --> 00:16:24,066
- What would he do?
- He would… he would scream at her.
266
00:16:24,149 --> 00:16:26,443
Okay. Did you ever see him hit her?
267
00:16:26,527 --> 00:16:27,736
Um…
268
00:16:28,445 --> 00:16:29,321
Once.
269
00:16:30,489 --> 00:16:33,033
He just got very mad about simple things.
270
00:16:35,786 --> 00:16:38,330
- And who would he get mad at?
- My mom.
271
00:16:38,414 --> 00:16:40,749
- Did you see him get mad at her?
- Yes.
272
00:16:40,833 --> 00:16:43,335
And when he would get mad,
what would he do?
273
00:16:44,503 --> 00:16:48,298
He would physically and verbally hurt my…
physically and verbally hurt my mom.
274
00:16:48,382 --> 00:16:50,259
Did you see him physically hurt her?
275
00:16:50,342 --> 00:16:51,677
Um, once or twice.
276
00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,137
What did you see?
277
00:16:53,220 --> 00:16:57,266
Um, punching, hitting, pushing.
278
00:16:58,559 --> 00:17:02,104
The children do both
make some statements about Jason.
279
00:17:02,187 --> 00:17:04,148
We have to pay close attention to that.
280
00:17:04,690 --> 00:17:06,942
But they also use a lot of words
281
00:17:07,026 --> 00:17:10,404
that eight-year-olds and ten-year-olds
don't generally use.
282
00:17:10,988 --> 00:17:14,700
He would physically and verbally hurt my…
physically and verbally hurt my mom.
283
00:17:14,783 --> 00:17:16,326
That's unusual and stands out.
284
00:17:18,162 --> 00:17:20,372
And… And how do you know
she's afraid of him?
285
00:17:21,081 --> 00:17:22,207
She told us.
286
00:17:22,291 --> 00:17:24,752
No. My mom told me about that.
287
00:17:24,835 --> 00:17:26,503
And who told you about that?
288
00:17:27,046 --> 00:17:28,589
Uh, my mom.
289
00:17:28,672 --> 00:17:30,299
My mom told me.
290
00:17:30,382 --> 00:17:31,341
She told me.
291
00:17:31,425 --> 00:17:32,593
Your mom told you.
292
00:17:32,676 --> 00:17:35,846
There's a possibility
the kids may have been coached.
293
00:17:35,929 --> 00:17:39,600
There's a lot of, "This is
what my mom told me about that night
294
00:17:39,683 --> 00:17:42,811
and about things
that had happened in the past."
295
00:17:43,312 --> 00:17:44,730
My mom told me,
296
00:17:44,813 --> 00:17:48,442
not when I was four, not when I was five,
but she told me when I was six,
297
00:17:49,193 --> 00:17:51,528
"Your dad is not that good of a dad."
298
00:17:52,362 --> 00:17:54,323
Why is she saying that to Sarah?
299
00:17:55,532 --> 00:17:58,077
What is the truth and what's not?
300
00:17:59,703 --> 00:18:02,289
We went back
to Molly and Tom's interviews.
301
00:18:04,333 --> 00:18:06,168
I know he's got me outmatched.
302
00:18:06,251 --> 00:18:07,878
I know he's a martial arts guy.
303
00:18:07,961 --> 00:18:09,505
I know he's a boxer.
304
00:18:09,588 --> 00:18:13,133
I am trying to stay
a bat's length away from this guy.
305
00:18:13,217 --> 00:18:14,134
Right.
306
00:18:14,218 --> 00:18:16,220
I'm scared to death.
307
00:18:17,096 --> 00:18:20,641
We're trying to verify
any training that Jason may have had
308
00:18:20,724 --> 00:18:23,352
in karate or martial arts,
309
00:18:23,435 --> 00:18:25,354
any boxing training that he may have had.
310
00:18:28,148 --> 00:18:30,651
Within one week of Jason being killed,
311
00:18:30,734 --> 00:18:35,322
{\an8}I am contacted by
the Davidson County Sheriff's Department
312
00:18:35,405 --> 00:18:39,076
{\an8}asking questions like,
"Was Jason an MMA fighter?"
313
00:18:40,577 --> 00:18:42,162
"Was he a professional boxer?"
314
00:18:43,163 --> 00:18:46,667
"Was our family
in the Irish Republican Army?"
315
00:18:47,793 --> 00:18:49,920
But, of course,
these things are ridiculous.
316
00:18:51,255 --> 00:18:55,717
They were just doing everything they could
to destroy his character.
317
00:18:57,136 --> 00:19:00,722
I want the world to know
the truth about Jason.
318
00:19:03,976 --> 00:19:07,020
He was the most kind-hearted
person you could meet.
319
00:19:07,104 --> 00:19:08,939
You'd never not see the man smiling.
320
00:19:09,648 --> 00:19:10,649
{\an8}Everybody loved him.
321
00:19:10,732 --> 00:19:13,485
{\an8}Everybody loved Jason. He was just…
He was everybody's friend.
322
00:19:17,489 --> 00:19:21,076
He was very charismatic,
and he had a loud voice as well.
323
00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:22,953
You knew when Jason was around.
324
00:19:23,745 --> 00:19:25,581
Family meant everything to him.
325
00:19:26,081 --> 00:19:28,709
I never thought
he was a romantic growing up,
326
00:19:28,792 --> 00:19:31,503
um, until he met his first wife, Mags.
327
00:19:33,255 --> 00:19:37,342
We were out socializing one night,
and I introduced Mags to Jason.
328
00:19:37,843 --> 00:19:41,680
{\an8}And from the start,
they were just meant for each other.
329
00:19:41,763 --> 00:19:43,557
{\an8}They were very, very happy.
330
00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,434
I, Margaret, take you, Jason,
331
00:19:45,934 --> 00:19:47,519
as my husband,
332
00:19:47,603 --> 00:19:50,397
for better, for worse,
for richer, for poorer,
333
00:19:51,315 --> 00:19:54,443
in sickness and in health,
all the days of our lives.
334
00:19:56,361 --> 00:19:57,654
They'd built their house.
335
00:19:57,738 --> 00:20:00,699
Mags had opened a new crèche,
and Jason had got promoted in work,
336
00:20:00,782 --> 00:20:02,117
so life couldn't have been better.
337
00:20:02,201 --> 00:20:03,368
It was like a fairy tale.
338
00:20:04,036 --> 00:20:06,455
And Jason's kids were everything to him.
339
00:20:06,538 --> 00:20:09,374
When they were born,
he was just the happiest he's ever been.
340
00:20:09,458 --> 00:20:12,085
That's it. Good boy. I love Sarah.
341
00:20:12,169 --> 00:20:14,671
- Aw! You're the best boy, Jack.
- Who's that, Jack?
342
00:20:14,755 --> 00:20:17,299
Jack, do you know what…
do you know what Sarah told me?
343
00:20:17,841 --> 00:20:22,095
She said she's getting Jack
a tractor and a trailer as a present
344
00:20:22,179 --> 00:20:23,305
because you're her brother.
345
00:20:23,388 --> 00:20:25,057
'Cause she loves Jack.
346
00:20:26,058 --> 00:20:28,852
Get off my chair. Get off my chair.
347
00:20:29,937 --> 00:20:32,773
This was the beginning of his whole life.
348
00:20:33,357 --> 00:20:34,566
{\an8}What you doin'?
349
00:20:35,108 --> 00:20:36,151
You dancin'?
350
00:20:39,821 --> 00:20:42,866
All that changed drastically
when I got a phone call
351
00:20:43,825 --> 00:20:47,996
at home one night, telling me
that Mags had had an asthma attack.
352
00:20:50,832 --> 00:20:53,585
Myself and my husband
managed to get to the hospital.
353
00:20:54,711 --> 00:20:57,506
And Jason was with Mags,
and we could hear him…
354
00:21:01,343 --> 00:21:03,053
He just begged her not to go
355
00:21:04,388 --> 00:21:05,514
and leave him.
356
00:21:07,057 --> 00:21:11,270
Jason, in that moment, was just…
357
00:21:12,104 --> 00:21:13,563
broken into pieces.
358
00:21:16,733 --> 00:21:20,904
He would write letters to Mags
and then leave them at the grave site.
359
00:21:25,617 --> 00:21:27,411
{\an8}All of our family rallied around,
360
00:21:27,494 --> 00:21:30,914
{\an8}but obviously,
he had very little space to grieve.
361
00:21:30,998 --> 00:21:33,834
{\an8}He was a single parent of two babies,
362
00:21:33,917 --> 00:21:36,086
{\an8}and he had to go to work every day.
363
00:21:41,300 --> 00:21:43,427
So, he advertised for an au pair,
364
00:21:43,927 --> 00:21:48,432
and that's when Molly Martens
came into our lives.
365
00:21:55,105 --> 00:21:59,860
I was in my early 20s, and I'd been
in a relationship for several months
366
00:21:59,943 --> 00:22:03,697
{\an8}and, um, unexpectedly got pregnant,
367
00:22:03,780 --> 00:22:05,532
{\an8}and, um…
368
00:22:06,700 --> 00:22:09,453
shortly thereafter,
suffered a miscarriage.
369
00:22:09,536 --> 00:22:12,873
And I think anybody
who's suffered a miscarriage
370
00:22:12,956 --> 00:22:16,626
can understand that
that is devastating at the time.
371
00:22:16,710 --> 00:22:18,545
I, um…
372
00:22:19,379 --> 00:22:21,298
was in that relationship with someone,
373
00:22:21,381 --> 00:22:25,302
and I realized I didn't want
to spend my life with that someone,
374
00:22:25,385 --> 00:22:28,472
and I felt like
that might be easier if I got away
375
00:22:28,555 --> 00:22:30,223
and enjoy the world.
376
00:22:30,307 --> 00:22:33,310
And for me, working with children
was a natural choice.
377
00:22:33,393 --> 00:22:36,688
And so, I joined an au pair agency.
378
00:22:36,772 --> 00:22:40,275
And when Jason reached out to me,
379
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:44,446
he indicated on his profile
that he had lost his wife.
380
00:22:44,529 --> 00:22:46,698
I guess that just pulled
on my heartstrings.
381
00:22:46,782 --> 00:22:48,533
There were these two babies
382
00:22:48,617 --> 00:22:50,410
{\an8}without a mother,
383
00:22:50,494 --> 00:22:53,830
{\an8}and maybe I had an ache to fill that need.
384
00:22:55,082 --> 00:22:58,293
{\an8}It was only natural
that she would develop a talent
385
00:22:58,877 --> 00:23:01,755
{\an8}for taking care of young children,
386
00:23:01,838 --> 00:23:04,758
in that her two younger brothers
387
00:23:05,467 --> 00:23:09,805
came along as she was nearing the age
where she could help her mother.
388
00:23:09,888 --> 00:23:12,891
She was very good at engaging them.
389
00:23:14,017 --> 00:23:18,647
I arrived in Ireland
on, um, a traditional rainy day.
390
00:23:19,147 --> 00:23:23,110
And I met Jason, and he put me at ease.
391
00:23:24,361 --> 00:23:26,238
He was charming, funny.
392
00:23:26,947 --> 00:23:28,657
He made me feel very special.
393
00:23:30,450 --> 00:23:33,787
Molly hadn't been in the country too long
394
00:23:33,870 --> 00:23:35,872
when I began to pick up on things,
395
00:23:35,956 --> 00:23:39,835
just little signals
between Jason and Molly.
396
00:23:39,918 --> 00:23:42,337
We were walking on the beach,
and they were dropping behind us,
397
00:23:42,421 --> 00:23:44,131
and I think Tracey mentioned to me
398
00:23:44,214 --> 00:23:46,758
that, you know, she thought
there was more to the relationship
399
00:23:46,842 --> 00:23:48,343
than employer-employee.
400
00:23:48,885 --> 00:23:54,683
I felt like I was bringing joy
into Jack, Sarah, and Jason's life.
401
00:23:54,766 --> 00:23:56,685
Okay, go get your sandal.
402
00:23:57,769 --> 00:23:59,771
You gotta put them on over your tight…
403
00:23:59,855 --> 00:24:00,689
Hello.
404
00:24:00,772 --> 00:24:03,400
…'cause it's the warmest day
in Ireland and you still need tights.
405
00:24:03,483 --> 00:24:05,235
Sarah, how old are you?
406
00:24:05,318 --> 00:24:06,319
Two.
407
00:24:06,403 --> 00:24:08,447
- Two and a half.
- Yeah.
408
00:24:08,530 --> 00:24:09,698
How old are you?
409
00:24:09,781 --> 00:24:10,782
Four and a half.
410
00:24:10,866 --> 00:24:13,410
- Are you sure you're not one and a half?
- No.
411
00:24:13,493 --> 00:24:14,578
Are you sure?
412
00:24:15,203 --> 00:24:17,831
But that noise you make,
sometimes it kinda sounds like this…
413
00:24:19,249 --> 00:24:21,376
That's kinda like
a one-and-a-half-year-old.
414
00:24:22,335 --> 00:24:26,798
And it was in the very early days
that Sarah started calling me "Mom."
415
00:24:27,299 --> 00:24:32,012
I was really becoming
a mother to those kids
416
00:24:32,095 --> 00:24:34,973
before I became a mother to those kids.
417
00:24:36,016 --> 00:24:37,684
It was just wonderful.
418
00:24:39,311 --> 00:24:41,813
Molly made Jason smile,
419
00:24:41,897 --> 00:24:43,982
and he hadn't in a very long time.
420
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:50,280
But it was clear
from emails from Jason to Molly
421
00:24:50,363 --> 00:24:55,035
that Jason wanted to slow the pace
of their relationship down.
422
00:24:56,745 --> 00:24:59,122
"My concern is for Jack and Sarah."
423
00:24:59,206 --> 00:25:01,833
"They have had enough
tragedy in their short lives,
424
00:25:01,917 --> 00:25:04,419
and while I know that they are resilient,
425
00:25:04,503 --> 00:25:07,506
I'm nervous about putting them
through anything further."
426
00:25:07,589 --> 00:25:09,508
"I'm really scared, Molly."
427
00:25:09,591 --> 00:25:10,926
"I don't want to lose you,
428
00:25:11,009 --> 00:25:13,970
but more so,
I don't want to risk Jack and Sarah
429
00:25:14,054 --> 00:25:16,598
losing another mother
if we don't work out."
430
00:25:18,141 --> 00:25:21,770
But Molly always wanted
the relationship validated.
431
00:25:21,853 --> 00:25:24,564
And she's pushing, pushing, pushing.
432
00:25:32,739 --> 00:25:37,369
Eventually, Jason began
to talk about the opportunity
433
00:25:37,452 --> 00:25:39,955
to begin a new life for Jack and Sarah,
434
00:25:40,038 --> 00:25:43,208
to allow them to have
a stable family environment
435
00:25:43,291 --> 00:25:45,502
with a mother and father.
436
00:25:47,462 --> 00:25:50,799
I was on a regular night out
with my friends.
437
00:25:50,882 --> 00:25:53,385
Jason walked in first,
and Molly walked in behind,
438
00:25:53,969 --> 00:25:56,179
showing the ring on her finger.
439
00:25:56,263 --> 00:25:59,724
And I said, "I am delighted.
I want you to be happy."
440
00:25:59,808 --> 00:26:01,476
"Mags wouldn't want you to be miserable."
441
00:26:03,061 --> 00:26:06,022
Ultimately, we decided
to move to the United States.
442
00:26:06,106 --> 00:26:09,276
Mostly, it was the lifestyle,
443
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:13,655
and in particular, the lifestyle
in regard to raising children.
444
00:26:17,242 --> 00:26:19,953
{\an8}I was excited
about a new beginning for our family.
445
00:26:30,005 --> 00:26:33,258
My first time seeing the house,
I thought it was like a mansion.
446
00:26:36,303 --> 00:26:37,470
It was so cool.
447
00:26:37,554 --> 00:26:39,556
Everything was much bigger than Ireland,
448
00:26:39,639 --> 00:26:40,765
which I loved.
449
00:26:42,058 --> 00:26:43,935
I remember when I first went in,
450
00:26:44,019 --> 00:26:46,646
I went into my room
and started running around in circles.
451
00:26:46,730 --> 00:26:48,565
And I loved how big the garden was,
452
00:26:48,648 --> 00:26:51,526
'cause my dad told me
we could get a trampoline and a dog.
453
00:26:53,069 --> 00:26:54,070
It was just really happy.
454
00:26:54,154 --> 00:26:56,156
Everyone was excited
for this new adventure.
455
00:26:56,239 --> 00:26:57,991
We just moved to America.
456
00:27:02,412 --> 00:27:04,623
{\an8}I feel like we fit in straightaway
457
00:27:04,706 --> 00:27:07,709
when we moved over
to Meadowlands in North Carolina.
458
00:27:08,209 --> 00:27:10,962
We got straight into activities
like swimming,
459
00:27:11,046 --> 00:27:12,547
joining teams.
460
00:27:12,631 --> 00:27:15,008
Everyone there was so nice, so friendly.
461
00:27:16,259 --> 00:27:18,720
It was a great community to be part of.
462
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:25,352
After Molly, Jason, Jack,
and Sarah moved to North Carolina,
463
00:27:25,435 --> 00:27:28,271
within a couple of weeks,
there was going to be a wedding
464
00:27:28,355 --> 00:27:32,233
and just a joyous occasion
that we were looking forward to.
465
00:27:32,317 --> 00:27:36,154
We just wanted Jason to be happy,
and we traveled to support him.
466
00:27:37,697 --> 00:27:39,449
When we arrived, everyone was excited.
467
00:27:42,327 --> 00:27:44,829
Jason and Molly had loads planned for us.
468
00:27:45,330 --> 00:27:46,581
We went to NASCAR,
469
00:27:48,041 --> 00:27:49,292
barbecues,
470
00:27:49,376 --> 00:27:50,960
loads of games, loads of fun.
471
00:27:54,172 --> 00:27:56,925
We have Molly from Knoxville, Tennessee…
472
00:27:57,926 --> 00:28:00,845
…and we have Jason
all the way over from Limerick, Ireland!
473
00:28:01,971 --> 00:28:05,016
It's my duty as the best man
to introduce everybody,
474
00:28:05,100 --> 00:28:06,476
and we all hit it off straightaway.
475
00:28:07,102 --> 00:28:08,520
…caught in a trap
476
00:28:10,772 --> 00:28:12,148
Can't walk out…
477
00:28:12,232 --> 00:28:15,318
We sang, and we drank, and we danced.
478
00:28:17,362 --> 00:28:18,613
The atmosphere was fantastic.
479
00:28:20,323 --> 00:28:21,533
He looked happy.
480
00:28:28,540 --> 00:28:30,500
The next day, at the wedding,
481
00:28:30,583 --> 00:28:33,044
it started to become apparent to me
482
00:28:33,128 --> 00:28:35,004
that there was something amiss
483
00:28:35,797 --> 00:28:40,343
when I had a conversation
with the maid of honor, Susie.
484
00:28:41,803 --> 00:28:43,722
I had a speech prepared.
485
00:28:43,805 --> 00:28:47,517
{\an8}Before I was supposed to give it,
I was talking to Tracey,
486
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,395
just telling her, you know,
it's just like a fairy tale.
487
00:28:50,895 --> 00:28:54,399
She starts to say how amazing it all is
and how romantic.
488
00:28:54,482 --> 00:28:56,735
You know, Molly goes over there
489
00:28:57,318 --> 00:29:00,363
to be the godparent to Jason's kids,
490
00:29:00,447 --> 00:29:03,408
since she was childhood friends with Mags.
491
00:29:03,491 --> 00:29:04,701
What?
492
00:29:04,784 --> 00:29:08,705
And now, like, you know,
she's gonna be their stepmom.
493
00:29:09,205 --> 00:29:11,875
I… I don't know what you're talking about.
494
00:29:12,417 --> 00:29:14,377
Uh, she was the au pair.
495
00:29:14,878 --> 00:29:16,296
I'm like, "What?"
496
00:29:16,379 --> 00:29:18,047
Like, "You gotta be kidding me."
497
00:29:19,174 --> 00:29:20,925
We're just in disbelief
498
00:29:21,009 --> 00:29:24,220
that this is what the American contingent
of the wedding believe.
499
00:29:25,430 --> 00:29:28,600
Why would anybody create
this fabricated story?
500
00:29:35,940 --> 00:29:38,067
In the course of the investigation,
501
00:29:38,151 --> 00:29:41,362
we are interviewing people about Molly.
502
00:29:41,446 --> 00:29:44,073
Her friends, her family, her neighbors.
503
00:29:46,159 --> 00:29:50,079
And what we are learning
becomes full-on bizarre.
504
00:29:50,872 --> 00:29:54,375
One of the neighbors tells us
that she was part of a book club,
505
00:29:54,459 --> 00:29:57,045
and one of the ladies comes in
506
00:29:57,128 --> 00:30:00,757
and is just excited
about finding out she's pregnant.
507
00:30:02,383 --> 00:30:07,514
Allegedly, Molly starts telling everybody
this whole drawn-out story
508
00:30:07,597 --> 00:30:10,141
about how she gave birth to Sarah.
509
00:30:11,518 --> 00:30:15,313
And some of the people in the room
already knew that wasn't true.
510
00:30:15,396 --> 00:30:18,817
And yet, the story was being told
to other people in front of them.
511
00:30:21,069 --> 00:30:25,657
And she had told her college roommate
about a dead sister,
512
00:30:25,740 --> 00:30:27,867
and that her sister had died of cancer.
513
00:30:29,285 --> 00:30:31,204
We found that's also not true.
514
00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:35,959
So, she is fabricating a story
about a sister that doesn't exist.
515
00:30:37,710 --> 00:30:40,421
Why does it matter that,
on so many occasions,
516
00:30:40,505 --> 00:30:44,884
Molly has told so many things
that are clearly not true?
517
00:30:45,718 --> 00:30:49,722
It matters because there were
only three people in that room that night.
518
00:30:50,348 --> 00:30:52,058
Jason can't tell his story.
519
00:30:52,141 --> 00:30:54,978
The two people who are left
are Tom and Molly.
520
00:30:55,770 --> 00:30:59,774
And we come to the conclusion
that Molly is not credible.
521
00:31:03,903 --> 00:31:06,281
Another thing that comes to light
522
00:31:07,365 --> 00:31:11,536
is Molly's consistent demand
523
00:31:11,619 --> 00:31:14,539
to be able to adopt Jason's children.
524
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,960
Just months after the wedding,
525
00:31:19,043 --> 00:31:23,923
she had visited a divorce attorney
to explore her rights to the children.
526
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,553
I wanted to adopt them
because they were my children.
527
00:31:28,636 --> 00:31:33,308
I mean, I was their mommy.
I was their mama. They were my kiddos.
528
00:31:34,642 --> 00:31:38,938
Jason and I had spoke previously
of an adoption ceremony
529
00:31:39,022 --> 00:31:41,232
being part of the wedding ceremony.
530
00:31:41,316 --> 00:31:43,234
There were a lot of promises
that were broken,
531
00:31:43,318 --> 00:31:44,819
but that was a big one.
532
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:46,946
I brought it up several times
533
00:31:47,030 --> 00:31:49,657
and say,
"Where are we on the adoption process?"
534
00:31:49,741 --> 00:31:51,242
"Anything I can do to help out?"
535
00:31:51,326 --> 00:31:53,453
And he would say,
well, you know, he's working on it,
536
00:31:53,536 --> 00:31:56,873
and, um, then nothing would happen.
537
00:32:01,002 --> 00:32:05,506
Looking back on the correspondence
that we got access to after Jason's death,
538
00:32:05,590 --> 00:32:07,926
we realized Jason was trying
to follow through on his promise
539
00:32:08,009 --> 00:32:10,136
to allow Molly to adopt the children.
540
00:32:12,388 --> 00:32:15,433
We saw an email from Jason to an attorney.
541
00:32:18,144 --> 00:32:21,439
I think one line stands out
in the email from the attorneys.
542
00:32:31,157 --> 00:32:33,117
Jason would never take that risk.
543
00:32:43,044 --> 00:32:45,755
Behind closed doors in Davidson,
544
00:32:45,838 --> 00:32:48,216
a custody battle began yesterday.
545
00:32:48,299 --> 00:32:51,052
At its center
are ten-year-old Jack Corbett
546
00:32:51,135 --> 00:32:53,304
and his eight-year-old sister, Sarah.
547
00:32:53,388 --> 00:32:55,473
The children are in the care
of this woman,
548
00:32:55,556 --> 00:32:57,934
his second wife, Molly Paige Martens.
549
00:32:58,685 --> 00:33:00,728
I remember Molly telling me that
550
00:33:00,812 --> 00:33:03,439
Tracey and David
were trying to take us away,
551
00:33:03,523 --> 00:33:05,483
and that she was going to court.
552
00:33:05,566 --> 00:33:07,318
And she told me that she was winning.
553
00:33:07,944 --> 00:33:11,447
Molly was telling us
about the new life we're going to have.
554
00:33:11,531 --> 00:33:13,866
She was already looking at apartments,
555
00:33:13,950 --> 00:33:16,577
looking at new cars,
new schools we were going to.
556
00:33:18,538 --> 00:33:20,707
It shouldn't even have got to this.
557
00:33:20,790 --> 00:33:24,794
These children are two Irish citizens.
Their father was an Irish citizen.
558
00:33:24,877 --> 00:33:27,839
{\an8}There's nothing. There's no adoption.
There's no dual citizenship.
559
00:33:27,922 --> 00:33:29,716
{\an8}They're solely Irish citizens.
560
00:33:30,216 --> 00:33:32,427
We presented evidence that I was a mother,
561
00:33:32,510 --> 00:33:34,637
and clearly was the mother.
562
00:33:34,721 --> 00:33:37,015
I'm the one that took them
to all their appointments,
563
00:33:37,098 --> 00:33:41,686
and took care of meals,
and did all the day-to-day activities.
564
00:33:41,769 --> 00:33:44,939
and I feel like we proved that
without a doubt,
565
00:33:45,023 --> 00:33:49,193
and their home environment was with me
and that they were safe and stable.
566
00:33:50,778 --> 00:33:53,990
We're here on the matter
of the guardianship
567
00:33:54,073 --> 00:33:58,411
of the minor children,
Sarah and Jack Corbett.
568
00:33:59,495 --> 00:34:01,664
The parents of Sarah and Jack,
I'm almost certain,
569
00:34:01,748 --> 00:34:05,460
would want their children to be raised
in the land of their origin,
570
00:34:06,002 --> 00:34:09,255
where the culture,
the religion, the customs,
571
00:34:09,338 --> 00:34:13,301
and their extended family on both sides
are prepared to nurture them in a manner
572
00:34:13,384 --> 00:34:15,511
that will be in the child's best interest.
573
00:34:16,721 --> 00:34:20,183
These children will be
returning to Ireland.
574
00:34:21,476 --> 00:34:23,102
All these people, you know, have said,
575
00:34:23,186 --> 00:34:26,814
"Well, Jason wanted his children
to be in Ireland with their family." What?
576
00:34:26,898 --> 00:34:28,232
Jason wanted to be alive.
577
00:34:29,275 --> 00:34:33,613
Jason didn't think he was gonna die.
I didn't think he was gonna die.
578
00:34:33,696 --> 00:34:38,534
And I don't know, if some crazy world
where he thought he was gonna die,
579
00:34:38,618 --> 00:34:41,996
I believe he would have wanted
the children to be with their mother.
580
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,248
That is something I do believe.
581
00:34:47,794 --> 00:34:49,962
I remember the day
that I was taken from Molly.
582
00:34:50,922 --> 00:34:53,341
A police car pulled up outside the house,
583
00:34:54,258 --> 00:34:55,760
and two policemen hopped out,
584
00:34:55,843 --> 00:34:59,138
and a van came up behind them
with two people in it.
585
00:35:01,057 --> 00:35:05,019
They told me that there had been
a court order to remove the kids.
586
00:35:06,479 --> 00:35:08,773
You know, Jack was kicking
and screaming and saying,
587
00:35:08,856 --> 00:35:11,025
"I'm not leaving with you.
I'm not leaving with you."
588
00:35:11,109 --> 00:35:12,276
"I'm not going,"
589
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:13,903
and "You can't take me."
590
00:35:13,986 --> 00:35:17,198
And Sarah was crying.
591
00:35:19,367 --> 00:35:23,871
I remember I was holding Jack's hand,
and I asked them, "Where are we going?"
592
00:35:23,955 --> 00:35:27,041
"Who are you? Take us back.
Where are you taking us?"
593
00:35:29,377 --> 00:35:33,714
And I was… I was melting down,
and, you know, I was crying,
594
00:35:34,298 --> 00:35:37,593
um, but I was trying to hold it together.
595
00:35:37,677 --> 00:35:41,139
I was trying to make sense of this,
and I was trying to… I don't know.
596
00:35:41,222 --> 00:35:43,224
How can this possibly be happening?
597
00:35:57,655 --> 00:35:59,365
I love you so much.
598
00:36:00,032 --> 00:36:02,743
I remember just saying goodbye
and saying "I love you" to her,
599
00:36:02,827 --> 00:36:05,037
and she was saying that she loved me.
600
00:36:05,121 --> 00:36:06,372
I was a ten-year-old kid,
601
00:36:06,455 --> 00:36:09,542
and this was the only person
that had been there every single day.
602
00:36:10,376 --> 00:36:12,545
I'm saying goodbye
to someone who'd been my mom
603
00:36:12,628 --> 00:36:14,088
for as long as I can remember.
604
00:36:14,922 --> 00:36:15,923
I loved Molly.
605
00:36:17,300 --> 00:36:19,844
It was not a goodbye for me,
it was just a visit,
606
00:36:19,927 --> 00:36:21,804
and I was going to see them soon,
607
00:36:21,888 --> 00:36:24,015
but it was the last time I saw them.
608
00:36:34,984 --> 00:36:37,612
Eleven-year-old Jack
and eight-year-old Sarah
609
00:36:37,695 --> 00:36:39,655
arrived back in Ireland yesterday.
610
00:36:39,739 --> 00:36:43,034
Molly Martens and her father,
65-year-old Thomas Martens,
611
00:36:43,117 --> 00:36:45,453
are described by police
as persons of interest
612
00:36:45,536 --> 00:36:47,955
in the death of 39-year-old Jason.
613
00:36:48,456 --> 00:36:50,249
When I came back to Ireland,
614
00:36:50,333 --> 00:36:53,878
there was just a huge media frenzy
around our family and my dad.
615
00:36:56,839 --> 00:36:59,926
{\an8}It was just a shock
to see so many people interested,
616
00:37:00,009 --> 00:37:02,094
and it being such
a high-profile case back home.
617
00:37:04,972 --> 00:37:07,016
I had made a promise to Jason
618
00:37:07,099 --> 00:37:11,854
that I would make sure
that he would be buried with Mags.
619
00:37:15,024 --> 00:37:17,818
There were so many people there
that loved and supported my dad,
620
00:37:17,902 --> 00:37:19,487
and supported all of us.
621
00:37:19,570 --> 00:37:23,366
And for the last, like, 200 meters,
we walked behind the casket.
622
00:37:28,579 --> 00:37:31,707
It was just hard to know
that I'm never going to see him again.
623
00:37:44,053 --> 00:37:48,307
I remember holding Sarah in my arms
in bed at night, and she's asking me,
624
00:37:48,391 --> 00:37:51,352
how did she lose, you know, three parents.
625
00:37:51,435 --> 00:37:54,313
I wanted to trust Tracey and David.
I really did.
626
00:37:54,397 --> 00:37:55,982
And I remember thinking about that.
627
00:37:56,065 --> 00:37:57,650
I remember thinking to myself,
628
00:37:58,359 --> 00:38:00,987
"You should just trust them.
You know they love you."
629
00:38:01,070 --> 00:38:04,115
But I found it really hard to let myself
630
00:38:04,699 --> 00:38:06,534
because I didn't want to get hurt again.
631
00:38:08,536 --> 00:38:13,416
We were dealing with just two
completely traumatized little children.
632
00:38:14,333 --> 00:38:19,547
And they just needed me to be a mother,
and that's what I did.
633
00:38:20,673 --> 00:38:23,926
I suppose we were lucky that myself
and Tracey had trained as foster parents.
634
00:38:24,010 --> 00:38:25,761
We knew what needed
to happen to the two kids
635
00:38:25,845 --> 00:38:27,179
in order for them to move forward,
636
00:38:27,263 --> 00:38:30,558
and counseling was going to be
a very important part of their healing.
637
00:38:35,104 --> 00:38:37,523
The family wouldn't allow any contact.
638
00:38:37,606 --> 00:38:39,817
They wouldn't answer any calls.
639
00:38:42,278 --> 00:38:46,157
And so, I used social media
640
00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:48,826
{\an8}to send messages to my kids.
641
00:38:51,620 --> 00:38:53,039
{\an8}I have not spoken…
642
00:38:53,539 --> 00:38:57,710
spoken to them
since my visitation with them…
643
00:38:58,461 --> 00:39:01,714
{\an8}…um, under which
we were all under the impression
644
00:39:01,797 --> 00:39:03,883
{\an8}that it was a visitation, not a goodbye.
645
00:39:03,966 --> 00:39:06,344
{\an8}I want someone to tell them
that I love them.
646
00:39:07,136 --> 00:39:10,056
{\an8}And happy birthday, kiddos,
with all of my heart.
647
00:39:11,223 --> 00:39:13,476
They tried to fly a plane over our school.
648
00:39:14,602 --> 00:39:19,023
{\an8}And Molly was asking people
on social media websites
649
00:39:19,106 --> 00:39:21,400
{\an8}to just tell us that she loved us.
650
00:39:28,407 --> 00:39:30,242
{\an8}It was just a constant barrage.
651
00:39:30,868 --> 00:39:33,579
We were trying to build
a safe environment for them,
652
00:39:33,662 --> 00:39:37,041
and they were attempting
to undo everything.
653
00:39:37,124 --> 00:39:38,876
We don't want them
contacting these children.
654
00:39:38,959 --> 00:39:41,128
These are the people
that have killed their father.
655
00:39:51,263 --> 00:39:54,558
We were waiting
for the results of the toxicology report
656
00:39:55,101 --> 00:39:59,772
because we had been told
in the initial stages of the investigation
657
00:39:59,855 --> 00:40:02,233
that Jason was quite drunk.
658
00:40:02,983 --> 00:40:04,527
I know he'd been drinking.
659
00:40:04,610 --> 00:40:09,156
I mean, he was wild.
660
00:40:09,657 --> 00:40:12,159
Would you say
that you thought he was drunk?
661
00:40:12,243 --> 00:40:13,994
Yes, he was drunk.
662
00:40:14,078 --> 00:40:16,622
It wasn't just sloppy drunk.
663
00:40:17,248 --> 00:40:19,834
{\an8}Now we have definitive scientific evidence
664
00:40:19,917 --> 00:40:22,044
{\an8}that this was not true.
665
00:40:24,296 --> 00:40:26,424
The number is .02.
666
00:40:26,966 --> 00:40:30,344
It's legal to drive
in North Carolina to .08.
667
00:40:30,428 --> 00:40:33,222
At the time he died, he was not drunk.
668
00:40:35,057 --> 00:40:37,184
In addition to a little bit of alcohol,
669
00:40:37,268 --> 00:40:41,897
Jason has some
of Molly's sleep medication tranquilizer
670
00:40:41,981 --> 00:40:42,857
in his system.
671
00:40:44,066 --> 00:40:45,860
{\an8}Did he take it voluntarily,
672
00:40:45,943 --> 00:40:47,945
or was it given to him
without his knowledge?
673
00:40:48,028 --> 00:40:52,199
That's a question that we probably
will never be able to answer.
674
00:40:53,367 --> 00:40:58,080
But it's setting off flags for me
as to what really happened here.
675
00:40:59,957 --> 00:41:02,126
Reviewing Tom's interview
676
00:41:02,209 --> 00:41:05,588
about where this fight happened
and how it happened,
677
00:41:05,671 --> 00:41:07,214
it didn't make any sense.
678
00:41:07,715 --> 00:41:10,759
It turned out to be defensive
to have her in front,
679
00:41:10,843 --> 00:41:12,470
to have her between us.
680
00:41:12,553 --> 00:41:14,388
He's holding her in front of him.
681
00:41:14,472 --> 00:41:16,098
I'm afraid I'm going to hit her.
682
00:41:16,182 --> 00:41:20,352
I kept trying to get around
and distract him,
683
00:41:20,436 --> 00:41:22,229
and get him to let her go.
684
00:41:22,313 --> 00:41:27,109
Most of Jason's injuries
were to the back and side of his head.
685
00:41:27,193 --> 00:41:29,236
How do you swing a baseball bat
686
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,740
and hit somebody in the back of the head
if you're standing in front of them?
687
00:41:33,324 --> 00:41:36,160
It makes more sense
that they were either running from you
688
00:41:36,243 --> 00:41:37,870
or you came up behind them.
689
00:41:43,083 --> 00:41:46,921
At the crime scene, there was
blood spatter in more than one room.
690
00:41:48,255 --> 00:41:49,590
The master bedroom.
691
00:41:51,467 --> 00:41:52,927
In the hallway.
692
00:41:53,928 --> 00:41:54,887
In the bathroom.
693
00:41:55,513 --> 00:42:00,017
There's defects in the walls
from weapons being swung.
694
00:42:04,730 --> 00:42:07,233
The blood spatter expert points out
695
00:42:07,316 --> 00:42:10,569
there are places
that appear to be consistent
696
00:42:10,653 --> 00:42:13,697
with Jason being hit as he goes down.
697
00:42:16,408 --> 00:42:18,452
There's one place in particular
698
00:42:18,536 --> 00:42:22,581
where Jason was hit
when his head was inches from the floor.
699
00:42:23,666 --> 00:42:27,795
Clearly, Jason was still being struck
in the head after he was down.
700
00:42:30,506 --> 00:42:35,094
Also, he points out that there is blood
on the back of the bedroom door.
701
00:42:36,679 --> 00:42:41,892
That means there's a possibility there was
deadly violence going on in that room
702
00:42:41,976 --> 00:42:45,312
before Tom got there,
and the door was closed.
703
00:42:46,313 --> 00:42:48,691
Did Molly start something
that Tom got pulled into?
704
00:42:51,318 --> 00:42:53,529
Even if it started as self-defense,
705
00:42:54,572 --> 00:42:58,075
at the point that Jason
is no longer aggressive toward them,
706
00:42:58,158 --> 00:43:00,160
they have to stop beating him,
707
00:43:00,244 --> 00:43:01,537
and they didn't.
708
00:43:01,620 --> 00:43:03,205
And they beat him to death.
709
00:43:05,708 --> 00:43:08,419
As a result of all that examination,
710
00:43:08,502 --> 00:43:12,214
we decide that it is appropriate
to charge second-degree murder.
711
00:43:12,298 --> 00:43:14,466
This isn't just excessive force.
712
00:43:14,550 --> 00:43:16,093
This is murder with malice.
713
00:43:18,012 --> 00:43:21,223
The case of a former model
and her father, an ex-FBI agent,
714
00:43:21,307 --> 00:43:24,226
{\an8}both now charged with murder
for the killing of her husband.
715
00:43:24,310 --> 00:43:26,562
They're due back in court
later on this month
716
00:43:26,645 --> 00:43:28,981
and are expected to plead not guilty.
717
00:43:29,064 --> 00:43:31,233
{\an8}If convicted,
they could face up to life in prison.
718
00:43:31,317 --> 00:43:34,778
{\an8}A $200,000 security
must be paid for each of them.
719
00:43:34,862 --> 00:43:36,905
They must surrender their passports,
720
00:43:36,989 --> 00:43:40,951
and they must agree to cease
all contact with the Corbett family,
721
00:43:41,035 --> 00:43:43,954
specifically Jason Corbett's
two young children.
722
00:43:53,672 --> 00:43:56,258
In the first few months
I was back in Ireland,
723
00:43:56,342 --> 00:43:58,218
I just felt I was very out of place.
724
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,137
I just felt very alone.
725
00:44:01,138 --> 00:44:02,598
I didn't trust anyone.
726
00:44:02,681 --> 00:44:04,683
I didn't have
a lot of friends at the time,
727
00:44:05,267 --> 00:44:07,645
and I missed my friends over in America.
728
00:44:08,187 --> 00:44:11,273
We miss everyone in Meadowlands.
729
00:44:11,357 --> 00:44:14,234
And to tell everyone that we miss them.
730
00:44:14,318 --> 00:44:15,861
Bye. Love you.
731
00:44:17,029 --> 00:44:19,031
Me and Sarah
had really different experiences,
732
00:44:19,114 --> 00:44:21,075
even though we came
from the same situation.
733
00:44:21,158 --> 00:44:24,328
She fit in a lot better.
She was a lot more chatty than me.
734
00:44:24,411 --> 00:44:25,871
She was more outgoing.
735
00:44:25,954 --> 00:44:28,749
Now, let's go over
and see what Sarah's doing.
736
00:44:29,291 --> 00:44:32,544
Hi, guys. I call this the baby swing.
737
00:44:36,799 --> 00:44:38,926
Okay, let me try that again.
738
00:44:39,009 --> 00:44:41,595
She was able to find friends
a lot quicker than I would have been.
739
00:44:41,679 --> 00:44:44,848
And she kind of was
able to open up easier.
740
00:44:44,932 --> 00:44:48,060
So, you see her nails.
They haven't been painted, have they?
741
00:44:48,143 --> 00:44:49,395
Not for a while.
742
00:44:49,478 --> 00:44:52,481
No, they're not really
working out very well.
743
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,319
And I missed my life,
I missed all the sports that I did,
744
00:44:57,403 --> 00:44:59,029
I missed, um, school,
745
00:44:59,113 --> 00:45:00,406
and I did miss Molly.
746
00:45:07,663 --> 00:45:10,833
Hi, Mom, this is Jack.
This cannot go public.
747
00:45:10,916 --> 00:45:12,876
I miss you, and I love you.
748
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,004
Keep fighting really hard.
I want to know how you are.
749
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,549
I love you so much.
750
00:45:18,632 --> 00:45:20,884
Call me, pretty please.
751
00:45:24,805 --> 00:45:27,182
And then it was
just released to the press,
752
00:45:27,766 --> 00:45:29,685
which was just a huge betrayal.
753
00:45:31,770 --> 00:45:34,440
And that was kind of
when my perspective changed,
754
00:45:34,523 --> 00:45:35,941
and I started to look things up,
755
00:45:36,024 --> 00:45:38,235
and I started to find out
what really happened
756
00:45:38,318 --> 00:45:42,072
and gain my own opinions
and see what the truth really was.
757
00:45:48,704 --> 00:45:50,706
As we are preparing for trial,
758
00:45:51,206 --> 00:45:56,670
we get word from Ireland that Jack needs
to come forward with the truth.
759
00:45:57,713 --> 00:46:01,216
So we set up
a live video-conference interview
760
00:46:01,300 --> 00:46:05,095
between our office and Jack in Ireland.
761
00:46:06,054 --> 00:46:11,518
{\an8}Molly made me lie, uh,
to the people who were interviewing me.
762
00:46:12,978 --> 00:46:15,355
{\an8}And how did Molly make you lie?
763
00:46:16,565 --> 00:46:17,816
Um…
764
00:46:17,900 --> 00:46:20,736
She made up a lot of stories about my dad.
765
00:46:21,487 --> 00:46:22,654
Um, that he was…
766
00:46:22,738 --> 00:46:26,033
She said that he was very abusive,
and she wasn't lying.
767
00:46:26,116 --> 00:46:29,578
Then she started crying,
and she said, "I'd never see you again."
768
00:46:29,661 --> 00:46:31,121
I didn't know what was going on.
769
00:46:33,290 --> 00:46:39,296
There has been this weight
on my shoulders for so long, of guilt.
770
00:46:39,963 --> 00:46:41,298
Molly told me,
771
00:46:41,381 --> 00:46:44,635
"You need to say that your dad hit me,
or they're gonna take you away."
772
00:46:44,718 --> 00:46:46,345
"And you're never going to see me again."
773
00:46:46,428 --> 00:46:48,347
Tell me why you're here.
774
00:46:48,430 --> 00:46:54,186
My aunt and uncle from my dad's side
are trying to take me away from my mom.
775
00:46:56,396 --> 00:46:59,191
The judge hears
the Dragonfly House recordings,
776
00:46:59,942 --> 00:47:03,695
he also is given the information
about Jack's recantation,
777
00:47:04,321 --> 00:47:08,367
and at this point,
the judge agreed with us
778
00:47:08,450 --> 00:47:11,578
that Jack and Sarah's statements
at the Dragonfly House
779
00:47:11,662 --> 00:47:13,789
are inadmissible hearsay,
780
00:47:13,872 --> 00:47:15,874
and now the jury will not hear them.
781
00:47:19,086 --> 00:47:21,380
I said what Molly told me to say.
782
00:47:21,463 --> 00:47:22,631
I had just lost my dad,
783
00:47:22,714 --> 00:47:25,259
I had already lost my mom,
I didn't want to lose anybody else,
784
00:47:25,843 --> 00:47:27,344
um, so I lied.
785
00:47:27,845 --> 00:47:32,349
I never saw my… my dad ever lay hands
on Molly, not once in my life.
786
00:47:32,432 --> 00:47:35,602
I was scared and afraid,
and I was so young,
787
00:47:35,686 --> 00:47:37,521
and I had no one else in the world,
788
00:47:37,604 --> 00:47:39,481
and I was afraid of losing Molly.
789
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:41,775
I have so much guilt
790
00:47:41,859 --> 00:47:44,820
because, in a way,
I felt like I let my dad down.
791
00:47:45,696 --> 00:47:48,782
I described someone
that was the complete opposite of my dad.
792
00:47:52,744 --> 00:47:53,996
Boom!
793
00:47:54,079 --> 00:47:55,372
I want people to know the truth,
794
00:47:55,455 --> 00:47:57,958
and I want people to know
my dad as a person.
795
00:47:58,041 --> 00:48:00,627
Um, my dad was a really amazing person,
796
00:48:00,711 --> 00:48:03,130
and what happened to him
shouldn't have happened to him.
797
00:48:05,883 --> 00:48:09,094
My dad was killed
the way no person should be killed.
798
00:48:11,179 --> 00:48:15,684
He was beaten to death
with a cinder block and a baseball bat,
799
00:48:16,393 --> 00:48:21,857
and no… no person should ever have
to go through that… that sort of pain.
800
00:48:22,357 --> 00:48:23,901
And, like, in the evidence,
801
00:48:23,984 --> 00:48:26,236
you see that
he tries to get away from them,
802
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,113
and they keep hitting him.
803
00:48:28,196 --> 00:48:29,531
They… They won't stop.
804
00:48:30,073 --> 00:48:33,118
And it's just really hard
to… to even think about.
805
00:48:39,124 --> 00:48:42,836
I'm trying to establish
why Jason was killed.
806
00:48:44,504 --> 00:48:47,174
There's a lot of email exchanges
between Jason and Molly
807
00:48:47,257 --> 00:48:48,842
that are concerning.
808
00:49:14,826 --> 00:49:18,747
There seems to be red flags
in the relationship.
809
00:49:19,748 --> 00:49:23,502
I'm also getting messages
from members of the Meadowlands community.
810
00:49:24,002 --> 00:49:26,713
This one in particular
came on Facebook Messenger.
811
00:49:27,923 --> 00:49:31,510
It says, "Jason and Molly were at a party
the Friday before his death,
812
00:49:31,593 --> 00:49:34,471
and she was belittling him,
calling him a fat ass,
813
00:49:34,554 --> 00:49:37,265
saying that he must have taken
all the nutrition from his twin
814
00:49:37,349 --> 00:49:39,434
because he looked like
he had eaten for two."
815
00:49:41,311 --> 00:49:45,524
Jason actually left the party early
and seemed down, not like himself.
816
00:49:47,818 --> 00:49:51,446
He had spoken to me
about coming back to Ireland
817
00:49:51,530 --> 00:49:55,075
because the marriage
wasn't in a good place.
818
00:49:56,034 --> 00:49:58,620
And he had sent a text to his friend.
819
00:50:16,763 --> 00:50:19,474
Putting the pieces of the jigsaw together,
820
00:50:19,558 --> 00:50:22,978
I believe the relationship was over,
and he wanted to move home,
821
00:50:23,061 --> 00:50:25,480
and it was going to happen really quickly.
822
00:50:27,524 --> 00:50:30,736
And Molly couldn't let Jason leave
with the children,
823
00:50:30,819 --> 00:50:33,321
because if she does,
she's lost everything.
824
00:50:41,455 --> 00:50:42,664
Developing tonight,
825
00:50:42,748 --> 00:50:44,791
a murder mystery
getting national attention now
826
00:50:44,875 --> 00:50:48,086
{\an8}as a former model and her father,
a former FBI agent,
827
00:50:48,170 --> 00:50:51,631
{\an8}find themselves facing life behind bars
for the death of the woman's husband.
828
00:50:53,508 --> 00:50:55,719
I did not commit a crime.
829
00:50:56,344 --> 00:51:01,600
I had one moment in this altercation
where I protected my father,
830
00:51:01,683 --> 00:51:05,520
and if I hadn't done that,
I believe that he would be dead,
831
00:51:05,604 --> 00:51:08,065
and then I would also have been killed.
832
00:51:08,148 --> 00:51:12,652
I don't know
if a father can see something worse
833
00:51:12,736 --> 00:51:17,449
than watching his child die
in front of him.
834
00:51:17,532 --> 00:51:21,328
I was going to save her life
or die trying.
835
00:51:21,411 --> 00:51:23,205
And I have no regrets.
836
00:51:25,457 --> 00:51:29,878
{\an8}Tom's number one priority
is to protect Molly.
837
00:51:30,462 --> 00:51:33,465
{\an8}He wants to save Molly,
so he has to say that he killed him.
838
00:51:33,548 --> 00:51:35,926
But he leaves Molly completely out of it.
839
00:51:37,260 --> 00:51:40,555
Molly is guilty of murder too,
the state contends.
840
00:51:42,474 --> 00:51:45,977
She was angry that she'd not been
allowed to adopt the children.
841
00:51:47,437 --> 00:51:50,649
Situation has been described
where he bought the house.
842
00:51:50,732 --> 00:51:52,109
He makes all the money.
843
00:51:52,776 --> 00:51:53,610
She's stuck.
844
00:51:54,694 --> 00:51:59,866
Malice feels like, when delivered
with the bat from Tom Marten…
845
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,496
That's what malice feels like.
846
00:52:04,579 --> 00:52:06,456
You know what malice feels like
847
00:52:06,540 --> 00:52:08,917
when it comes from the brick
that Molly had?
848
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:10,335
It feels like…
849
00:52:10,418 --> 00:52:13,088
…"I hate him! And I want those kids!"
850
00:52:14,089 --> 00:52:15,882
That's what malice feels like.
851
00:52:16,508 --> 00:52:18,426
You know what malice looks like?
852
00:52:19,636 --> 00:52:23,473
Malice looks like all of those pictures
of what they did to his skull.
853
00:52:27,936 --> 00:52:31,273
{\an8}The wife and father-in-law
of Limerick man Jason Corbett
854
00:52:31,356 --> 00:52:35,193
have been sentenced
to between 20 and 25 years in jail
855
00:52:35,277 --> 00:52:38,488
after being found guilty
of second degree murder.
856
00:52:39,489 --> 00:52:43,952
I was in a state of complete shock.
857
00:52:44,035 --> 00:52:46,371
I believed in the system,
858
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,041
and I believed
that the truth would matter.
859
00:52:52,460 --> 00:52:55,630
And I felt like if I hadn't screamed
that night, if I…
860
00:52:56,339 --> 00:52:58,842
You know,
maybe he would've just strangled me,
861
00:52:58,925 --> 00:53:00,510
and maybe I would've been okay.
862
00:53:01,011 --> 00:53:02,053
And I felt like…
863
00:53:04,514 --> 00:53:08,351
that after my dad, you know,
lived this life serving his country
864
00:53:08,435 --> 00:53:10,020
and being a wonderful father,
865
00:53:10,103 --> 00:53:14,107
now the rest of his life was over,
866
00:53:14,191 --> 00:53:16,109
and it was my fault.
867
00:53:16,985 --> 00:53:20,989
We worried the jury might not find
the two accused guilty,
868
00:53:21,072 --> 00:53:23,575
but they did, and we thank them for it.
869
00:53:23,658 --> 00:53:28,747
{\an8}For us, it's the beginning of healing,
of rebuilding our lives.
870
00:53:29,497 --> 00:53:32,334
Life has possibility for us again.
871
00:53:33,501 --> 00:53:36,046
It's the first time
where I just felt so free
872
00:53:36,129 --> 00:53:39,007
and so just empty, but in a good way.
873
00:53:39,633 --> 00:53:41,009
How dare you disapprove?
874
00:53:41,092 --> 00:53:43,511
There. You still lose.
875
00:53:44,054 --> 00:53:46,181
I started to settle
into my family properly.
876
00:53:46,264 --> 00:53:51,978
Happy birthday
Dear Sarah and Grandad…
877
00:53:52,062 --> 00:53:55,690
This is my mum, this is my dad,
and these are my brothers.
878
00:53:55,774 --> 00:53:57,525
Show us how it's done!
879
00:53:57,609 --> 00:53:59,569
- No, Jack.
- You're just moving your arm.
880
00:53:59,653 --> 00:54:00,946
Come on, show us how it's done.
881
00:54:02,322 --> 00:54:03,531
Sarah!
882
00:54:06,368 --> 00:54:09,329
I can remember the first time
Jack called me "Dad."
883
00:54:09,412 --> 00:54:12,999
He was going up the stairs one day,
and he just answered, "Okay, Dad."
884
00:54:13,083 --> 00:54:15,377
And you know, it was very…
885
00:54:16,503 --> 00:54:18,421
It was a very emotional moment for me.
886
00:54:25,053 --> 00:54:28,682
It was very much
a coming together of our little tribe,
887
00:54:28,765 --> 00:54:29,849
our blended family.
888
00:54:31,935 --> 00:54:35,689
Everything was going well,
but then it took a turn for the worst
889
00:54:35,772 --> 00:54:37,440
and everything went wrong again.
890
00:54:46,908 --> 00:54:49,077
We know how Jason Corbett died.
891
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,413
{\an8}Now we're gonna tell you why he died.
892
00:54:53,206 --> 00:54:54,666
We are gonna tell this story.
893
00:54:54,749 --> 00:54:57,544
{\an8}It did not get told at the first trial.
894
00:54:57,627 --> 00:55:00,630
{\an8}By gosh,
it is going to get told this time.
895
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:10,932
Molly Corbett's family come to me
and asked me to review the record
896
00:55:11,016 --> 00:55:15,645
to convince the North Carolina
Court of Appeals to award a new trial.
897
00:55:16,896 --> 00:55:20,817
One of the first things
I come across is an interview
898
00:55:20,900 --> 00:55:23,903
that Molly gave
the morning that this happened.
899
00:55:24,487 --> 00:55:28,658
How many times before tonight
have you guys had physical altercations?
900
00:55:28,742 --> 00:55:30,076
I don't know.
901
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:31,411
Too many to count?
902
00:55:33,788 --> 00:55:34,789
A lot.
903
00:55:35,290 --> 00:55:36,958
And the next thing I see
904
00:55:37,584 --> 00:55:41,087
is that the authorities
interviewed the children,
905
00:55:41,171 --> 00:55:45,967
starting the very next day with a visit
by the Department of Social Services,
906
00:55:46,843 --> 00:55:52,599
and they both describe their father
as controlling and abusive.
907
00:55:53,350 --> 00:55:57,729
And then three days later,
at the Dragonfly House,
908
00:55:57,812 --> 00:56:00,607
they repeat the initial statements.
909
00:56:00,690 --> 00:56:03,777
He just got very mad about simple things.
910
00:56:04,361 --> 00:56:06,488
It's gotten worse
over the past two months.
911
00:56:07,989 --> 00:56:12,077
Now he's been cussing and screaming
a lot more, getting a lot angrier.
912
00:56:13,578 --> 00:56:15,246
Unbeknownst to anybody,
913
00:56:15,330 --> 00:56:17,999
two weeks earlier,
Jason has gone to his doctor,
914
00:56:18,750 --> 00:56:22,754
and he complained
that he found himself getting angry
915
00:56:23,588 --> 00:56:25,215
for no reason.
916
00:56:26,049 --> 00:56:29,552
Almost Jack's identical words.
917
00:56:29,636 --> 00:56:33,932
So, now I'm thinking,
"Wow, maybe there's something to this."
918
00:56:34,599 --> 00:56:37,060
I just came up with a keyword.
919
00:56:37,143 --> 00:56:38,228
Tell me about that.
920
00:56:38,311 --> 00:56:41,398
Um, "galaxy," that's mine,
and my sister's is "peacock."
921
00:56:42,607 --> 00:56:45,110
And who told you to set up these keywords?
922
00:56:45,777 --> 00:56:46,736
My grandma.
923
00:56:47,237 --> 00:56:49,823
I could just say, "peacock,"
and then I hang up the phone,
924
00:56:49,906 --> 00:56:51,408
and she would come over to our house.
925
00:56:52,075 --> 00:56:53,785
- From Tennessee?
- Yeah.
926
00:56:53,868 --> 00:56:55,870
Do you remember
when she came up with that?
927
00:56:55,954 --> 00:57:00,542
A few weeks before my dad died,
the peacock thing happened.
928
00:57:01,126 --> 00:57:03,920
What about their phone numbers?
Did you have those written down?
929
00:57:04,003 --> 00:57:06,381
Yeah, we have one under a doll.
930
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,261
Their grandmother,
Sharon Martens, was concerned
931
00:57:11,344 --> 00:57:14,055
'cause of things she knew
about what's going on in the house,
932
00:57:14,139 --> 00:57:16,516
that she had the kids create a code word
933
00:57:17,142 --> 00:57:21,438
and gave the kids her phone number
and hid it from Jason
934
00:57:21,521 --> 00:57:23,565
because they knew how he would react.
935
00:57:23,648 --> 00:57:26,317
Tell me about this cinder block
that you're talking about,
936
00:57:26,401 --> 00:57:28,653
or the brick that your mom used.
937
00:57:28,736 --> 00:57:32,615
Um, we just got flowers
that we were going to plant
938
00:57:32,699 --> 00:57:34,492
in our front yard or backyard.
939
00:57:34,993 --> 00:57:37,954
And we were gonna paint it
so it looked pretty.
940
00:57:38,788 --> 00:57:42,750
And it was in my mom's room
because it was raining earlier.
941
00:57:42,834 --> 00:57:44,878
You have a brick on the nightstand?
942
00:57:45,587 --> 00:57:49,174
The kids and I were gonna paint…
943
00:57:51,718 --> 00:57:56,306
Paint these bricks and flowers
around the mailbox.
944
00:57:56,389 --> 00:57:57,599
It's not a coincidence
945
00:57:57,682 --> 00:58:00,727
{\an8}that all the physical evidence
and the circumstantial evidence
946
00:58:00,810 --> 00:58:06,524
{\an8}all corroborate what Tom and Molly
told law enforcement from the beginning.
947
00:58:06,608 --> 00:58:10,069
I was stunned to read that the state
948
00:58:10,862 --> 00:58:14,741
had successfully persuaded
the trial judge to exclude
949
00:58:15,408 --> 00:58:17,410
everything that the children had said.
950
00:58:19,245 --> 00:58:21,664
How could there have been a fair trial
951
00:58:22,248 --> 00:58:25,960
when the jury never heard
the very evidence that supports
952
00:58:26,461 --> 00:58:28,421
what Molly said happened that night?
953
00:58:30,423 --> 00:58:32,842
One of the arguments the state made
954
00:58:32,926 --> 00:58:38,723
was that the children were
now recanting their original statements.
955
00:58:39,682 --> 00:58:44,854
{\an8}And is it true
that your father was abusive, or false?
956
00:58:45,939 --> 00:58:47,524
{\an8}Um, false.
957
00:58:48,483 --> 00:58:53,530
{\an8}I believe that this is
just a gross miscarriage of justice.
958
00:58:54,113 --> 00:58:58,576
When I watched the interview of Jack,
it looks very rehearsed.
959
00:58:59,327 --> 00:59:01,120
They appear to be brainwashed.
960
00:59:02,539 --> 00:59:03,540
I know the truth.
961
00:59:04,415 --> 00:59:06,751
I know that what they state
is not the truth.
962
00:59:08,545 --> 00:59:10,588
What's going on inside their heads?
963
00:59:10,672 --> 00:59:11,881
I don't know.
964
00:59:13,174 --> 00:59:16,761
One is conducted
by a trained child interviewer
965
00:59:16,844 --> 00:59:18,471
in a sterile environment.
966
00:59:19,055 --> 00:59:20,098
One is not.
967
00:59:20,181 --> 00:59:23,434
She told us that that's how my dad died,
and to tell the DA…
968
00:59:23,518 --> 00:59:24,852
Uh, you're gone.
969
00:59:26,521 --> 00:59:28,314
It's okay. Are you… Are you back?
970
00:59:28,398 --> 00:59:31,109
I'm going to have to call David.
971
00:59:31,192 --> 00:59:33,861
If this is such an important interview,
972
00:59:33,945 --> 00:59:38,032
uh, why can't Davidson County
fly somebody to Ireland
973
00:59:38,116 --> 00:59:40,159
and conduct a proper interview?
974
00:59:40,243 --> 00:59:41,828
- Hi.
- Okay. Is that better?
975
00:59:41,911 --> 00:59:44,205
I'm gonna go ahead and back out.
You guys carry on.
976
00:59:45,206 --> 00:59:47,875
Molly Corbett is sitting
in the women's prison
977
00:59:49,460 --> 00:59:52,046
with a sentence of 20 to 25 years.
978
00:59:56,009 --> 00:59:57,802
And I don't think she did this.
979
01:00:11,441 --> 01:00:12,817
Good morning, everyone,
980
01:00:12,900 --> 01:00:15,778
and welcome
to the North Carolina Court of Appeals.
981
01:00:16,362 --> 01:00:20,199
I've got to convince these three judges
that an injustice was done.
982
01:00:20,283 --> 01:00:22,827
Your Honor,
I wanted to address the decision
983
01:00:22,910 --> 01:00:25,288
to exclude the children's statements.
984
01:00:25,872 --> 01:00:30,335
The trial court in its conclusions,
in my judgment, were clearly erroneous.
985
01:00:31,711 --> 01:00:35,048
I got the decision
from the Court of Appeals that we had won.
986
01:00:36,424 --> 01:00:41,137
And the judge ruled that Jason Corbett
was the aggressor that night.
987
01:00:43,139 --> 01:00:45,433
But the state is appealing the decision
988
01:00:45,516 --> 01:00:47,685
to the full Supreme Court
of North Carolina.
989
01:00:47,769 --> 01:00:49,937
And so, I begin again.
990
01:00:50,021 --> 01:00:52,899
The children were uniquely positioned
to know the truth
991
01:00:52,982 --> 01:00:56,444
of whether their father
had an irrational anger problem.
992
01:00:56,527 --> 01:01:00,573
And therein lies the problem
with excluding the children's statements.
993
01:01:00,657 --> 01:01:03,117
The Supreme Court of North Carolina
is in recess.
994
01:01:03,201 --> 01:01:04,994
God save the state
and this honorable court.
995
01:01:10,625 --> 01:01:12,919
The Supreme Court has ruled, and we won.
996
01:01:14,545 --> 01:01:16,464
They have awarded a new trial.
997
01:01:16,547 --> 01:01:21,010
And this time, the children's statements
are going to be heard by the jury.
998
01:01:22,011 --> 01:01:25,181
The murder convictions
of Molly Corbett and Thomas Martens
999
01:01:25,264 --> 01:01:27,392
have been overturned on appeal.
1000
01:01:27,475 --> 01:01:31,187
North Carolina Supreme Court
upheld an appellate court's ruling,
1001
01:01:31,270 --> 01:01:33,773
granting Tom and Molly a new trial.
1002
01:01:34,524 --> 01:01:37,193
There had been
serious problems with the trial,
1003
01:01:37,276 --> 01:01:40,279
and it was going to be rectified.
1004
01:01:40,363 --> 01:01:43,074
It was exhilarating. I was going home.
1005
01:01:45,451 --> 01:01:48,705
Well, tonight, Molly Corbett
and her father, Tom Martens,
1006
01:01:48,788 --> 01:01:50,707
are free on bail.
1007
01:01:50,790 --> 01:01:52,792
Mr. Martens, how does it feel to be out?
1008
01:01:52,875 --> 01:01:54,877
I'm glad to be back with my family.
1009
01:01:54,961 --> 01:01:57,672
The father-daughter pair
left the Davidson County Jail
1010
01:01:57,755 --> 01:01:59,632
just an hour apart.
1011
01:02:01,217 --> 01:02:05,304
{\an8}For the first time
in over three and a half years,
1012
01:02:06,347 --> 01:02:10,059
{\an8}Molly walked out of that jail free.
1013
01:02:13,020 --> 01:02:14,397
It's not fair…
1014
01:02:16,149 --> 01:02:19,986
…that they're out and walking.
1015
01:02:23,281 --> 01:02:24,991
I can't focus.
1016
01:02:28,911 --> 01:02:32,248
And there's no trial date set.
1017
01:02:35,209 --> 01:02:36,043
There's no…
1018
01:02:41,424 --> 01:02:46,345
There's nothing to say,
"Okay, this is when it's gonna be over."
1019
01:02:47,013 --> 01:02:48,639
I just have to sit here
1020
01:02:50,475 --> 01:02:54,437
and let my life pass me by again
because of them.
1021
01:02:56,689 --> 01:02:59,776
Very hard to see the people
that took so much from you
1022
01:02:59,859 --> 01:03:01,360
and took your dad's life,
1023
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:06,449
that are able to walk free and be able
to hug their dads and their moms
1024
01:03:08,075 --> 01:03:12,288
when we have to go down to a little patch
of grass with a headstone to see my dad.
1025
01:03:15,208 --> 01:03:19,045
Now we have to prepare
for a new trial in front of a new jury.
1026
01:03:19,962 --> 01:03:23,966
All of the evidence is gonna be presented,
and the whole story will finally get told.
1027
01:03:24,967 --> 01:03:29,138
Domestic abuse
was going to come into the light.
1028
01:03:29,222 --> 01:03:30,598
I mean, my domestic abuse,
1029
01:03:30,681 --> 01:03:35,186
the abuse that I suffered and endured,
it was… it was going to come out.
1030
01:03:39,482 --> 01:03:42,652
I think we appeared
as a pretty perfect family,
1031
01:03:43,986 --> 01:03:50,159
but things were not great
in regard to Jason's treatment of me.
1032
01:03:51,953 --> 01:03:55,081
Just every day,
there would be kind of an interrogation
1033
01:03:55,164 --> 01:03:58,709
of what I did that day,
who I talked to, and what I was wearing.
1034
01:03:58,793 --> 01:04:02,338
And if I wore my hair a different way,
there would be,
1035
01:04:02,421 --> 01:04:04,173
"Why did you wear your hair that way?"
1036
01:04:04,257 --> 01:04:06,092
"Were you hoping to talk
to someone specific?"
1037
01:04:07,510 --> 01:04:10,012
Everything was just fraught with peril.
1038
01:04:11,430 --> 01:04:15,309
Sometimes he would
just be kind of seething and angry
1039
01:04:15,393 --> 01:04:18,145
because I hadn't abided by something
1040
01:04:18,229 --> 01:04:20,439
or I'd been somewhere
I shouldn't have been.
1041
01:04:22,483 --> 01:04:24,652
And sometimes that would lead, uh,
1042
01:04:25,862 --> 01:04:27,488
to a violent situation.
1043
01:04:32,493 --> 01:04:36,831
Molly was becoming a shell
of what she had been.
1044
01:04:38,207 --> 01:04:41,752
She was definitely not as happy.
1045
01:04:41,836 --> 01:04:44,338
She was definitely not as confident.
1046
01:04:45,172 --> 01:04:47,675
She was acting beaten down.
1047
01:04:48,885 --> 01:04:52,972
I did not realize the extent
or the seriousness of the domestic abuse
1048
01:04:53,514 --> 01:04:54,891
that I do now.
1049
01:04:54,974 --> 01:04:57,768
Not letting me adopt the children
was a method of control.
1050
01:04:57,852 --> 01:05:00,396
And it was something
that I didn't recognize early on.
1051
01:05:00,479 --> 01:05:04,734
He would always say, "Why does it matter?
It's just a piece of paper."
1052
01:05:06,611 --> 01:05:10,281
He knew that a divorce and custody
1053
01:05:10,364 --> 01:05:14,368
was just in the realm of possibility
if I adopted the kids.
1054
01:05:14,452 --> 01:05:17,914
And so, he wanted to make sure
that didn't happen.
1055
01:05:20,207 --> 01:05:22,752
If I had left at that time,
1056
01:05:22,835 --> 01:05:25,129
the kids were not old enough
to have a say in court
1057
01:05:25,212 --> 01:05:29,008
and I would most likely lose the kids.
1058
01:05:29,550 --> 01:05:32,678
And I… I wasn't willing to lose the kids,
and he knew that.
1059
01:05:32,762 --> 01:05:34,889
He knew I couldn't ever leave the kids.
1060
01:05:37,975 --> 01:05:42,563
And so, my friend in the neighborhood
who was the family attorney,
1061
01:05:42,647 --> 01:05:48,402
she recommended that I keep a record
of not only the abuse
1062
01:05:48,486 --> 01:05:51,530
but also just general motherhood.
1063
01:05:51,614 --> 01:05:56,160
You know, so if there was a divorce
when the kids were older,
1064
01:05:56,702 --> 01:06:00,665
that there would be a record
that I was their mom.
1065
01:06:00,748 --> 01:06:04,585
And she recommended
that I make recordings.
1066
01:06:07,338 --> 01:06:09,548
I was trying to have
a conversation with Jack.
1067
01:06:09,632 --> 01:06:12,426
Could you just give me
two minutes to talk to my kids
1068
01:06:12,510 --> 01:06:14,136
when you're with them all the time?
1069
01:06:15,179 --> 01:06:16,889
- Could you do that?
- Yeah, I'm sorry.
1070
01:06:16,973 --> 01:06:17,932
You should be.
1071
01:06:19,183 --> 01:06:22,937
They were little recording devices
that were voice activated,
1072
01:06:23,020 --> 01:06:25,731
and I put them around the house.
1073
01:06:27,775 --> 01:06:29,485
Underneath the coffee table.
1074
01:06:30,486 --> 01:06:31,862
Underneath the counter.
1075
01:06:32,446 --> 01:06:34,782
One on the nightstand.
1076
01:06:36,409 --> 01:06:39,787
My plan had been to control the situation
1077
01:06:39,870 --> 01:06:42,790
until they were old enough
to have a say in court.
1078
01:06:42,873 --> 01:06:45,167
And there were times when I thought
1079
01:06:46,419 --> 01:06:48,879
that I'm gonna die before that happens.
1080
01:06:50,464 --> 01:06:53,009
Um, but there was never a time
1081
01:06:53,092 --> 01:06:56,887
where I thought that Jason might die
before that happens.
1082
01:07:02,977 --> 01:07:05,187
{\an8}I get a call from Doug Kingsbery
1083
01:07:05,271 --> 01:07:09,316
saying that he has a case that he thinks
I might be able to help with.
1084
01:07:10,234 --> 01:07:14,071
We have a man who is
a very successful businessman.
1085
01:07:14,155 --> 01:07:15,614
He gets along with everybody.
1086
01:07:15,698 --> 01:07:18,284
Does not have an angry bone in his body.
1087
01:07:19,410 --> 01:07:22,371
The thing is,
abusers can appear one way n public
1088
01:07:22,455 --> 01:07:24,123
but very different in private.
1089
01:07:24,832 --> 01:07:30,713
And so, Doug sent me an audio recording
of the family during dinnertime.
1090
01:07:30,796 --> 01:07:34,300
Could I have dinner with the kids?
That's what I asked, but you ignored it
1091
01:07:34,383 --> 01:07:35,676
and went and fed them anyway.
1092
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:37,845
I was on the phone with you
ten minutes ago,
1093
01:07:37,928 --> 01:07:40,890
I said, "I'm gonna make some soup.
Do you want some?" And you said no.
1094
01:07:40,973 --> 01:07:43,559
I said no
because I thought we'd have family dinner.
1095
01:07:43,642 --> 01:07:45,436
But you ignored it, honey,
because you just do,
1096
01:07:45,519 --> 01:07:47,063
because it's not what you wanted to do.
1097
01:07:47,146 --> 01:07:49,648
I said, "I'm making soup for the kids."
1098
01:07:49,732 --> 01:07:50,858
"Do you want some?"
1099
01:07:50,941 --> 01:07:53,444
The reason I said no
is because you ignored what I asked.
1100
01:07:53,527 --> 01:07:54,820
I didn't ignore anything.
1101
01:07:54,904 --> 01:07:57,198
You forgot what I asked.
You couldn't care less.
1102
01:07:57,281 --> 01:08:00,785
One of the characteristics of abusers
is they like to take on the victim role.
1103
01:08:00,868 --> 01:08:04,121
And no matter how much Molly tries
to appease him or reassure him
1104
01:08:04,205 --> 01:08:06,499
that she was offering
to do something for him,
1105
01:08:06,582 --> 01:08:07,792
he does not want to be pleased.
1106
01:08:07,875 --> 01:08:09,919
He doesn't want a solution to the problem.
1107
01:08:10,002 --> 01:08:11,796
He wants a problem to complain about.
1108
01:08:11,879 --> 01:08:14,465
I said,
"I'd like to have dinner with my family."
1109
01:08:14,548 --> 01:08:16,342
That's what I said to you. You decided--
1110
01:08:16,425 --> 01:08:18,844
Jack, stop hanging off
the banister. Go to your room.
1111
01:08:18,928 --> 01:08:21,514
No, don't go up to your room,
Jack, come down here, please.
1112
01:08:21,597 --> 01:08:23,599
Don't tell them to go
when I'm talking to them.
1113
01:08:23,682 --> 01:08:26,477
- I gotta go to the bathroom.
- You can stay there, please.
1114
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:28,062
Can you look at me? Have some respect?
1115
01:08:28,145 --> 01:08:31,107
Asked you to have dinner with my family.
You said you were feeding the kids.
1116
01:08:31,190 --> 01:08:34,318
That's why I said no, because you ignored
what I said about dinner with my family.
1117
01:08:34,401 --> 01:08:36,737
- Sit down, finish your food.
- Who cares what he says.
1118
01:08:36,821 --> 01:08:39,240
Don't send them out when I'm talking.
You don't have the right.
1119
01:08:39,323 --> 01:08:41,033
"You don't have the right."
1120
01:08:41,700 --> 01:08:45,287
I mean, yeah, she's not…
she's not their adoptive mother.
1121
01:08:46,247 --> 01:08:49,792
According to Jason,
this is further ammunition
1122
01:08:49,875 --> 01:08:52,002
to letting Molly know where she stands.
1123
01:08:52,086 --> 01:08:54,421
It's Pancake Tuesday.
Why don't I make some pancakes?
1124
01:08:54,505 --> 01:08:57,341
I don't want anything from you.
I asked you over and over again.
1125
01:08:57,424 --> 01:08:59,802
You made it clear you want
to try to separate me from my kids.
1126
01:08:59,885 --> 01:09:00,845
No, I don't, J.
1127
01:09:00,928 --> 01:09:02,763
I'm gonna do the same to you.
1128
01:09:02,847 --> 01:09:04,932
The difference is,
I will be able to do it.
1129
01:09:05,015 --> 01:09:07,017
That's a very clear threat from Jason.
1130
01:09:07,518 --> 01:09:10,771
"If you try to take the kids from me,
I'll just take the kids from you."
1131
01:09:11,605 --> 01:09:13,691
I shouldn't have to say it over and over…
1132
01:09:13,774 --> 01:09:15,901
Can you guys get out
the stuff for pancakes?
1133
01:09:15,985 --> 01:09:17,736
There you go again!
1134
01:09:17,820 --> 01:09:20,114
I'm talking to you,
and you're talking about something else!
1135
01:09:20,197 --> 01:09:22,366
- Stop slamming your chair!
- Stop fighting!
1136
01:09:22,449 --> 01:09:24,034
Go up to bed.
1137
01:09:24,118 --> 01:09:26,787
- Up to bed. Go.
- She just got scared, J.
1138
01:09:26,871 --> 01:09:29,039
- Up to bed.
- She did, Dad. She got scared.
1139
01:09:29,123 --> 01:09:31,000
Go to bed. Go to bed. Go to bed.
1140
01:09:34,420 --> 01:09:38,549
If a jury hears this evidence
of domestic abuse,
1141
01:09:38,632 --> 01:09:40,885
they will find Tom and Molly innocent.
1142
01:09:42,428 --> 01:09:46,182
Because Molly told a story five years ago,
or maybe two stories,
1143
01:09:46,265 --> 01:09:49,935
does that mean
that she was not abused by Jason?
1144
01:09:50,436 --> 01:09:52,354
My daughter's not a liar.
1145
01:09:52,438 --> 01:09:53,480
I'm not a liar.
1146
01:09:55,774 --> 01:09:58,194
And if you think we are, go for it.
1147
01:09:59,111 --> 01:09:59,987
Prove it.
1148
01:10:03,532 --> 01:10:05,910
We learn that there are secret recordings
1149
01:10:05,993 --> 01:10:08,704
that Molly has made of Jason.
1150
01:10:08,787 --> 01:10:12,249
Molly was the only person who knew
the recording was being made,
1151
01:10:12,333 --> 01:10:15,628
which creates a scenario
where she can control the narrative.
1152
01:10:17,087 --> 01:10:23,260
{\an8}Molly was preparing
for divorce and custody proceedings.
1153
01:10:23,344 --> 01:10:25,596
I'll be able to do
what you're trying to do.
1154
01:10:26,347 --> 01:10:28,933
- I'm not trying to do anything, J.
- You are.
1155
01:10:29,642 --> 01:10:31,560
She clearly is trying to do something.
1156
01:10:32,228 --> 01:10:35,898
Anyone who's making secret recordings
in a personal relationship
1157
01:10:35,981 --> 01:10:40,569
can manipulate the context
and make Jason look bad.
1158
01:10:45,324 --> 01:10:48,202
In the last months
before my father was killed,
1159
01:10:48,285 --> 01:10:50,412
the mood was kinda different in the house.
1160
01:10:50,496 --> 01:10:53,624
There wasn't as much activities
with us as a family going on.
1161
01:10:55,334 --> 01:10:57,753
When I kinda
really started to notice it was
1162
01:10:57,836 --> 01:11:01,507
when I found the recording device
in my dad's car, and I showed it to him.
1163
01:11:02,007 --> 01:11:05,219
And he was absolutely shocked
to see it in there.
1164
01:11:05,302 --> 01:11:08,806
And he said, "How do you feel
about moving back to Ireland?"
1165
01:11:09,306 --> 01:11:11,850
And Sarah said, "Without Mommy?"
And my dad said, "Yes."
1166
01:11:11,934 --> 01:11:13,644
And I knew Molly would not like that.
1167
01:11:15,020 --> 01:11:18,607
She knew he'd be able to take us away,
and she'd be able to do nothing about it.
1168
01:11:19,984 --> 01:11:22,903
It appears from everything
we learned about Molly
1169
01:11:23,487 --> 01:11:27,908
that things are coming to a head
as it relates to the marriage
1170
01:11:27,992 --> 01:11:32,454
and to, most importantly,
to her custody of the children.
1171
01:11:34,373 --> 01:11:37,835
We look back at Tom's statement
the night Jason was killed,
1172
01:11:38,669 --> 01:11:42,423
and the reason for the visit
from Tom and Sharon.
1173
01:11:42,506 --> 01:11:44,174
I mean, we're fairly social people.
1174
01:11:44,258 --> 01:11:46,802
And we didn't really have
anything going on this weekend.
1175
01:11:46,885 --> 01:11:50,180
That Saturday morning, we decided,
"Hey, why don't we go on over to Molly's?"
1176
01:11:50,264 --> 01:11:53,058
It's a four-hour drive,
and it's a beautiful day.
1177
01:11:53,142 --> 01:11:55,978
But we learned from people in Tennessee,
1178
01:11:56,061 --> 01:11:58,147
where Tom and Sharon live,
1179
01:11:58,230 --> 01:12:02,735
that Tom and Sharon had plans
that night with his boss,
1180
01:12:02,818 --> 01:12:05,154
which they canceled at the last minute.
1181
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:11,493
We do not believe
that Tom came to North Carolina
1182
01:12:11,577 --> 01:12:13,829
to beat Jason to death
with a baseball bat.
1183
01:12:14,330 --> 01:12:20,294
Our theory is that Molly
had devised some explosive event.
1184
01:12:21,628 --> 01:12:27,092
If Molly could get Jason to blow up
1185
01:12:28,218 --> 01:12:30,846
while her parents were there as witnesses,
1186
01:12:32,097 --> 01:12:35,309
she could apply
for a domestic violence protective order,
1187
01:12:35,392 --> 01:12:37,644
which would remove him from the house.
1188
01:12:39,396 --> 01:12:43,192
And then she can file
for emergency custody of the children
1189
01:12:43,692 --> 01:12:46,195
and take his children away from him.
1190
01:12:49,490 --> 01:12:52,951
But when the plan went awry,
and it got violent,
1191
01:12:53,869 --> 01:12:57,331
it appears she quit caring
whether or not he lived or died.
1192
01:13:11,178 --> 01:13:14,306
Now, everyone's talking
about Tom and Molly Martens.
1193
01:13:14,390 --> 01:13:16,683
This case has caused a big divide
1194
01:13:16,767 --> 01:13:19,019
between the US and Ireland
for a long time.
1195
01:13:19,103 --> 01:13:23,524
The situation now is that
they are expected to go for a retrial
1196
01:13:24,191 --> 01:13:26,735
on the same charges in 2022.
1197
01:13:28,112 --> 01:13:30,572
How difficult is it
to listen to all the things
1198
01:13:30,656 --> 01:13:33,409
that you know have been said
about your dead brother
1199
01:13:33,492 --> 01:13:35,411
to make him look as if he deserved it?
1200
01:13:35,494 --> 01:13:37,955
I think that's one of the reasons
why I wrote the book,
1201
01:13:38,038 --> 01:13:42,626
because we weren't able to defend Jason.
1202
01:13:44,169 --> 01:13:49,758
I've been fighting
for justice for Jason for seven years.
1203
01:13:51,510 --> 01:13:53,345
Now I face a retrial,
1204
01:13:53,846 --> 01:13:56,640
and I expect
that the defense will call me.
1205
01:13:57,141 --> 01:14:01,562
I believe they're going to try and claim
that I brainwashed Jack and Sarah,
1206
01:14:02,604 --> 01:14:05,315
which is utterly… untrue.
1207
01:14:08,026 --> 01:14:11,155
Telling a child what to say,
or telling a child to lie,
1208
01:14:11,238 --> 01:14:13,615
would go against every fiber of my being.
1209
01:14:14,533 --> 01:14:16,034
That is never going to happen.
1210
01:14:21,457 --> 01:14:25,252
I'm just packing, getting ready,
'cause we're leaving in the morning
1211
01:14:25,335 --> 01:14:27,629
for the pre-trial hearing.
1212
01:14:28,130 --> 01:14:32,718
It will be the first time
we see the Martens since 2015.
1213
01:14:33,510 --> 01:14:36,430
So, that's going to be very hard.
1214
01:14:37,764 --> 01:14:39,766
The reason they were granted a retrial
1215
01:14:39,850 --> 01:14:42,102
is a lot to do
with my Dragonfly interview,
1216
01:14:42,186 --> 01:14:44,396
where I said that my dad hit Molly.
1217
01:14:45,189 --> 01:14:47,274
It's always in the back of my mind.
1218
01:14:49,234 --> 01:14:51,695
We all just hope that the retrial is set
as soon as possible.
1219
01:14:51,778 --> 01:14:53,906
These people have been out
for over a year,
1220
01:14:53,989 --> 01:14:58,785
and that I think it's time
for this book to be closed
1221
01:14:58,869 --> 01:15:00,954
and that justice to be served.
1222
01:15:02,039 --> 01:15:04,917
I just want to be there
to support my father and my family.
1223
01:15:18,722 --> 01:15:21,975
The family of Jason Corbett,
the Irishman found beaten to death
1224
01:15:22,059 --> 01:15:24,811
in his North Carolina home in 2015,
1225
01:15:24,895 --> 01:15:28,857
have said they hope a date
for Molly and Tom Martens's retrial
1226
01:15:28,941 --> 01:15:30,943
will be set at a hearing today.
1227
01:15:32,694 --> 01:15:36,490
They walked into the courtroom
and I saw Molly, and I saw Tom.
1228
01:15:37,533 --> 01:15:39,535
They had their heads down.
They wouldn't look at me.
1229
01:15:41,411 --> 01:15:43,830
{\an8}And I thought, "I'm not afraid anymore."
1230
01:15:45,207 --> 01:15:47,125
I'm not the one who should be afraid.
1231
01:15:47,209 --> 01:15:49,002
I… I did nothing wrong.
1232
01:15:49,086 --> 01:15:50,837
I lied, that's true.
1233
01:15:50,921 --> 01:15:52,381
Um…
1234
01:15:52,464 --> 01:15:53,382
But I was eight.
1235
01:15:53,966 --> 01:15:58,428
And I do believe that justice
will be delivered for my dad.
1236
01:15:59,304 --> 01:16:01,848
We're going
to some breaking news in the last while
1237
01:16:01,932 --> 01:16:05,727
as the killers of Irish businessman
Jason Corbett will face a retrial
1238
01:16:05,811 --> 01:16:07,896
on murder charges next summer.
1239
01:16:08,605 --> 01:16:10,107
The family had been hoping
1240
01:16:10,190 --> 01:16:12,234
that the retrial would take place
before Christmas.
1241
01:16:12,317 --> 01:16:14,361
Unfortunately, that is not to be.
1242
01:16:15,362 --> 01:16:17,864
Right now,
it's really just a waiting game.
1243
01:16:21,326 --> 01:16:24,371
It's stressful having to deal with
this hanging over us.
1244
01:16:25,872 --> 01:16:28,417
But if I get to testify,
which I hope I do,
1245
01:16:28,500 --> 01:16:32,838
I feel confident I'll be able to portray
what really happened inside the house,
1246
01:16:32,921 --> 01:16:36,925
and tell people and the jury
what Molly was really like,
1247
01:16:37,009 --> 01:16:39,386
and the real version of events, the truth.
1248
01:16:39,469 --> 01:16:42,139
I've been waiting a long time
to say everything,
1249
01:16:42,222 --> 01:16:47,436
and I didn't have the words to explain
what happened to me,
1250
01:16:47,519 --> 01:16:49,229
and my brother, and my dad before.
1251
01:16:54,776 --> 01:16:56,069
On the outside of the house,
1252
01:16:56,153 --> 01:16:58,864
the house looks like
sunshines and rainbows.
1253
01:17:00,699 --> 01:17:04,077
And on the inside, it's dark and heavy.
1254
01:17:07,831 --> 01:17:10,334
My relationship with Molly
got progressively worse
1255
01:17:10,417 --> 01:17:12,294
as we moved over to America.
1256
01:17:14,254 --> 01:17:18,467
Myself and Sarah used to have pictures
of our biological mother in our rooms,
1257
01:17:18,967 --> 01:17:21,637
and she took the picture off me
and hid it.
1258
01:17:23,388 --> 01:17:27,934
I feel that Molly wanted to be
the only mother that existed,
1259
01:17:28,018 --> 01:17:29,936
that there was no one else before her.
1260
01:17:30,771 --> 01:17:34,775
Sarah had a lot closer relationship
with Molly than I did.
1261
01:17:35,901 --> 01:17:37,653
They did everything together.
1262
01:17:38,403 --> 01:17:40,906
She was like the… the star child.
1263
01:17:42,491 --> 01:17:44,117
I was closer with my dad.
1264
01:17:46,286 --> 01:17:49,414
I remember when my father
was on a work trip,
1265
01:17:49,498 --> 01:17:51,500
and I said, "Goodbye, I love you."
1266
01:17:52,125 --> 01:17:54,211
She chased me up to my room,
1267
01:17:54,294 --> 01:17:58,423
she destroyed my whole room,
pulled all my clothes out, flipped my bed,
1268
01:17:58,507 --> 01:17:59,883
turned over my dresser.
1269
01:18:04,012 --> 01:18:07,265
I was in the car with Molly,
and I asked her,
1270
01:18:07,349 --> 01:18:11,520
"Could I start tee-ball?
Dad's the coach, so he can bring me."
1271
01:18:11,603 --> 01:18:13,939
And Molly turned around and said,
"Do you not love me?"
1272
01:18:14,022 --> 01:18:17,025
"Do you not care about me?
You don't want to spend time with me."
1273
01:18:17,109 --> 01:18:19,236
"Why do you want
to spend time with your dad?"
1274
01:18:19,820 --> 01:18:23,407
I felt awful
because I thought I really hurt her.
1275
01:18:23,490 --> 01:18:25,951
I couldn't even tell my dad
things that happened,
1276
01:18:26,034 --> 01:18:29,705
and that made it really hard for me
to know what was right and what was wrong,
1277
01:18:29,788 --> 01:18:33,500
because I only had one person
whispering in my ear the whole time.
1278
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:39,923
I was constantly fighting
to be loved by her.
1279
01:18:41,007 --> 01:18:45,011
I did everything I could
to just feel attention off her,
1280
01:18:45,095 --> 01:18:46,304
not even love,
1281
01:18:46,388 --> 01:18:47,222
and I loved her.
1282
01:18:49,391 --> 01:18:51,184
Me and Jack both loved her.
1283
01:18:52,144 --> 01:18:56,022
But I think that she pitted
me and Jack against each other
1284
01:18:56,106 --> 01:18:57,441
to fight for her love.
1285
01:18:58,233 --> 01:19:00,569
I think if it had gotten to a case
1286
01:19:00,652 --> 01:19:03,196
where we had been brought
before a judge at 13,
1287
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:06,158
I would have chose my dad
every day of the week.
1288
01:19:07,242 --> 01:19:09,578
But Sarah would have picked Molly.
1289
01:19:11,747 --> 01:19:14,374
Molly took Sarah away
from my dad constantly.
1290
01:19:15,459 --> 01:19:16,460
She never got…
1291
01:19:28,430 --> 01:19:31,183
She never got the relationship
that she wanted with him.
1292
01:19:31,767 --> 01:19:32,851
That's Molly's fault.
1293
01:19:32,934 --> 01:19:34,811
In my opinion, that's Molly's fault.
1294
01:19:45,947 --> 01:19:49,534
As we are preparing for a retrial,
1295
01:19:50,076 --> 01:19:54,998
I find out that
Molly has a handful of close friends
1296
01:19:55,081 --> 01:19:59,961
{\an8}that heard Jason in fits of anger,
1297
01:20:00,962 --> 01:20:02,297
{\an8}threaten her,
1298
01:20:02,380 --> 01:20:05,425
or who witnessed
Jason's controlling behavior,
1299
01:20:05,509 --> 01:20:08,261
supporting what Molly has described to me.
1300
01:20:09,262 --> 01:20:11,139
One of the women says,
1301
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:15,936
"Molly has told me Jason
has strangled me before in the bedroom."
1302
01:20:17,687 --> 01:20:18,939
And she said,
1303
01:20:19,815 --> 01:20:26,321
"Molly was afraid
that Jason had strangled his first wife,
1304
01:20:26,905 --> 01:20:30,617
and she was growing concerned
that it could happen to her."
1305
01:20:30,700 --> 01:20:32,953
And I'm… I'm thinking, "What?"
1306
01:20:34,204 --> 01:20:35,580
It's been there all along,
1307
01:20:36,706 --> 01:20:38,583
since the first interview
with law enforcement.
1308
01:20:38,667 --> 01:20:42,838
His first wife died
in mysterious circumstances.
1309
01:20:43,630 --> 01:20:48,134
Um, the finding was
that she had an asthma attack.
1310
01:20:48,635 --> 01:20:49,886
This didn't just come up.
1311
01:20:49,970 --> 01:20:53,181
Tom had concerns
from when he talked to Mikey Fitzpatrick.
1312
01:20:57,727 --> 01:21:00,480
We had the maternal grandparents over.
1313
01:21:00,564 --> 01:21:02,148
They're at our house.
1314
01:21:02,232 --> 01:21:04,067
I have occasion to have a conversation
1315
01:21:04,150 --> 01:21:07,863
with the father
of the deceased first wife.
1316
01:21:07,946 --> 01:21:09,865
His name is Mikey Fitzpatrick.
1317
01:21:10,365 --> 01:21:14,369
He's not a well-educated man.
He's very hard to understand.
1318
01:21:14,953 --> 01:21:17,289
Got a heavy Irish accent.
1319
01:21:17,372 --> 01:21:19,249
I asked him what he thought of Jason.
1320
01:21:19,916 --> 01:21:23,044
He said, "I think he killed my daughter."
1321
01:21:23,587 --> 01:21:25,547
I found that pretty shocking.
1322
01:21:25,630 --> 01:21:28,508
I didn't know if it was just a bitter man
1323
01:21:28,592 --> 01:21:33,305
who… needed somebody to blame
for his daughter's death,
1324
01:21:34,264 --> 01:21:37,225
or if he had a basis for this.
1325
01:21:38,435 --> 01:21:39,853
He was deadly serious.
1326
01:21:41,229 --> 01:21:43,064
He wasn't joking around.
1327
01:21:43,148 --> 01:21:47,861
{\an8}Nobody investigated
any further into Mags' death
1328
01:21:47,944 --> 01:21:50,530
{\an8}and the circumstances
surrounding Mags' death.
1329
01:21:50,614 --> 01:21:53,658
Everybody accepted the autopsy findings
1330
01:21:54,284 --> 01:21:56,912
until Doug started digging further.
1331
01:21:58,288 --> 01:22:01,875
I obtained a copy
of the official autopsy report
1332
01:22:02,876 --> 01:22:04,878
of Jason's first wife.
1333
01:22:13,637 --> 01:22:15,847
I have a medical expert look at this.
1334
01:22:16,348 --> 01:22:19,935
He says, "Jason Corbett's first wife
did not die from an asthma attack."
1335
01:22:21,102 --> 01:22:23,313
"The evidence to me shows
1336
01:22:23,396 --> 01:22:26,775
that she succumbed
to injuries from manual strangulation."
1337
01:22:28,777 --> 01:22:33,531
We had learned that Mags' sister
was there that night.
1338
01:22:35,533 --> 01:22:40,956
And she reported, "Mags kept saying,
'I'm going to die. I'm going to die.'"
1339
01:22:43,375 --> 01:22:46,836
That's what happens
to victims of manual strangulation
1340
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:48,630
that survive the event
1341
01:22:49,464 --> 01:22:51,800
but dies from those injuries
within the hour.
1342
01:22:54,636 --> 01:22:58,682
But according to
Mags Corbett's autopsy report,
1343
01:22:59,265 --> 01:23:02,519
there were not visible marks
on the outside of her neck.
1344
01:23:05,563 --> 01:23:10,026
My expert says, "You don't die from
what's on the external part of the neck."
1345
01:23:10,110 --> 01:23:12,404
"You die from the injury
that can't be seen
1346
01:23:12,487 --> 01:23:13,947
on the inside of the neck."
1347
01:23:14,447 --> 01:23:15,573
This is important.
1348
01:23:16,783 --> 01:23:20,078
The state is making an argument
1349
01:23:20,161 --> 01:23:22,539
that Molly couldn't have been
strangled that night
1350
01:23:22,622 --> 01:23:26,001
because there's a lack
of injuries to her neck.
1351
01:23:26,710 --> 01:23:32,173
And he says to me, "Take a look
at the photograph of Molly Corbett
1352
01:23:32,257 --> 01:23:36,803
taken in the early morning hours
right outside the house by the police."
1353
01:23:38,847 --> 01:23:40,974
"Do you see that linear mark
1354
01:23:41,057 --> 01:23:43,935
on the left side of Molly's neck
below her ear?"
1355
01:23:44,436 --> 01:23:46,271
I hadn't noticed it before.
1356
01:23:46,813 --> 01:23:48,606
He says, "That's a nail dig."
1357
01:23:49,733 --> 01:23:52,569
It's what happens
during manual strangulation
1358
01:23:53,111 --> 01:23:56,614
when either the assailant's nails
1359
01:23:57,198 --> 01:23:59,117
dig into the side of the neck,
1360
01:23:59,826 --> 01:24:04,122
or sometimes the victim
is trying to pry the hand away.
1361
01:24:09,002 --> 01:24:10,336
And he says to me,
1362
01:24:10,420 --> 01:24:14,174
"Have you examined her pajamas
that she was wearing that night?"
1363
01:24:14,674 --> 01:24:16,801
"No. What am I looking for?"
1364
01:24:19,220 --> 01:24:22,307
"If the victim loses consciousness,
1365
01:24:23,308 --> 01:24:25,810
uh, they lose control of their bladder."
1366
01:24:26,436 --> 01:24:28,730
"I'll bet you dollars to donuts,
1367
01:24:28,813 --> 01:24:31,566
you're gonna go down there
and find a urine stain
1368
01:24:31,649 --> 01:24:33,777
in the crotch area of her pajamas."
1369
01:24:36,613 --> 01:24:37,614
And there it is.
1370
01:24:39,741 --> 01:24:46,289
I believe the only reason wife number two
was not victim number two
1371
01:24:46,372 --> 01:24:49,250
was because that night
her 65-year-old father
1372
01:24:49,334 --> 01:24:51,961
was there to intervene and stop it.
1373
01:24:54,964 --> 01:24:59,469
There are numerous expert witnesses
for the state and for the defense.
1374
01:25:00,303 --> 01:25:03,431
Every expert who looks
at the autopsy of Mags
1375
01:25:04,057 --> 01:25:07,227
agree that she did not die
of an asthma attack.
1376
01:25:08,645 --> 01:25:13,066
But our experts said
that you could not extrapolate from that
1377
01:25:13,149 --> 01:25:15,819
that Jason or anybody else had killed her.
1378
01:25:16,402 --> 01:25:20,365
That is a reckless conclusion
and is not supported by the evidence.
1379
01:25:21,741 --> 01:25:25,537
There is a long list
of possible health conditions
1380
01:25:25,620 --> 01:25:29,374
which would have looked like
an asthma attack in a known asthmatic.
1381
01:25:31,209 --> 01:25:34,796
However, the claims
that Jason must have strangled her
1382
01:25:35,296 --> 01:25:38,258
is not the kind of testimony
we want to get in front of a jury.
1383
01:25:38,341 --> 01:25:41,386
We're concerned that a jury hears that,
they may stop listening.
1384
01:25:43,388 --> 01:25:46,266
{\an8}Jack and Sarah are absolutely convinced
1385
01:25:46,349 --> 01:25:49,853
{\an8}that their testimony will fix everything.
1386
01:25:50,770 --> 01:25:53,356
{\an8}But even if they testify brilliantly
1387
01:25:54,107 --> 01:25:56,109
and carry their share of the load,
1388
01:25:56,192 --> 01:25:57,485
and more,
1389
01:25:58,862 --> 01:26:00,530
it could still go sideways.
1390
01:26:02,782 --> 01:26:07,412
And so, we are willing
to consider plea negotiations.
1391
01:26:18,590 --> 01:26:20,592
Today, Molly Corbett and Thomas Martens
1392
01:26:20,675 --> 01:26:22,552
appeared in a Davidson County courtroom
1393
01:26:22,635 --> 01:26:25,889
to plead for a reduced charge
of voluntary manslaughter.
1394
01:26:25,972 --> 01:26:30,185
{\an8}Molly Corbett, she pled no contest
to that charge of voluntary manslaughter.
1395
01:26:30,268 --> 01:26:34,355
{\an8}And Thomas Martens, he pled guilty
to the charge of voluntary manslaughter.
1396
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:38,401
{\an8}Now, they also say his exemplary career
in the FBI in upholding the law
1397
01:26:38,484 --> 01:26:40,528
{\an8}should warrant an easier sentence.
1398
01:26:41,988 --> 01:26:44,532
I had no interest in taking a plea.
1399
01:26:44,616 --> 01:26:46,409
I was ready to go to trial.
1400
01:26:46,492 --> 01:26:49,913
I was ready for the truth to prevail,
and I was ready to fight back.
1401
01:26:51,497 --> 01:26:54,876
But the possibility of us losing at trial
1402
01:26:54,959 --> 01:26:59,589
and my father being incarcerated
for what would be the rest of his life,
1403
01:26:59,672 --> 01:27:02,133
I couldn't handle that responsibility.
1404
01:27:03,051 --> 01:27:05,511
The state and defense teams,
they're gonna go through
1405
01:27:05,595 --> 01:27:08,932
{\an8}all of the evidence from a case
that this area knows very well
1406
01:27:09,015 --> 01:27:10,308
{\an8}and present that to a judge.
1407
01:27:10,391 --> 01:27:14,479
{\an8}And then he'll make the determination
of how long their sentences should be.
1408
01:27:15,813 --> 01:27:18,816
My whole world has just been
flipped upside down again
1409
01:27:18,900 --> 01:27:22,028
for I don't know how many times
over the last eight years.
1410
01:27:22,111 --> 01:27:27,075
They could walk out at the end
of the sentencing hearing for time served.
1411
01:27:27,158 --> 01:27:28,993
It's just a complete injustice.
1412
01:27:29,869 --> 01:27:33,539
This is not what my dad deserves.
This isn't what I deserve.
1413
01:27:33,623 --> 01:27:35,541
It's not right. It's not fair.
1414
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:40,296
The court has been hearing
testimony from friends and neighbors
1415
01:27:40,380 --> 01:27:41,839
of Molly Martens Corbett
1416
01:27:41,923 --> 01:27:46,511
who said they were aware of arguments,
physical violence and controlling behavior
1417
01:27:46,594 --> 01:27:48,179
in the Corbetts' marriage.
1418
01:27:48,763 --> 01:27:52,225
Questions were raised about
the cause of death of his previous wife,
1419
01:27:52,308 --> 01:27:53,476
Margaret Corbett.
1420
01:27:53,559 --> 01:27:56,187
The defense brought in pathologists
who say it's possible
1421
01:27:56,271 --> 01:27:57,772
that someone could've killed her.
1422
01:27:58,982 --> 01:28:00,942
I feel like my dad's on trial.
1423
01:28:01,442 --> 01:28:05,280
And I feel like all the focus
is on my dad's character.
1424
01:28:07,073 --> 01:28:11,494
Molly's lawyers say
that there's one common denominator
1425
01:28:11,577 --> 01:28:14,789
in my birth mother's death
and my dad's death.
1426
01:28:14,872 --> 01:28:16,791
My birth mother was feeding me
1427
01:28:16,874 --> 01:28:19,919
'cause I woke up crying
the night that she died.
1428
01:28:20,003 --> 01:28:24,090
And the night that my dad died,
I woke up and went downstairs.
1429
01:28:25,925 --> 01:28:31,222
How could you blame me for the reason
both of my parents are dead?
1430
01:28:37,020 --> 01:28:39,147
That's when I realized that
1431
01:28:40,732 --> 01:28:43,401
this is just a case for the defense.
1432
01:28:43,484 --> 01:28:46,571
They don't know my da-- my dad,
and they don't want to know him.
1433
01:28:47,530 --> 01:28:52,452
As painful as that news
could have been for them to hear
1434
01:28:52,535 --> 01:28:55,371
that Mags didn't die of an asthma attack,
1435
01:28:55,455 --> 01:28:59,083
which is the story that
they have been fed their entire lives,
1436
01:28:59,709 --> 01:29:04,255
um, I guess I did have some hope
that this would, you know, cause a break
1437
01:29:04,339 --> 01:29:07,175
in… in their brainwashing.
1438
01:29:07,258 --> 01:29:08,384
But, um…
1439
01:29:10,636 --> 01:29:13,014
they continue to believe she did,
1440
01:29:13,097 --> 01:29:15,224
and maybe that's what
they have to believe.
1441
01:29:16,893 --> 01:29:20,897
I'm angry because I know
my dad didn't kill my mom.
1442
01:29:25,985 --> 01:29:28,821
{\an8}My Auntie Catherine was
in the house that night.
1443
01:29:31,783 --> 01:29:34,994
I do wish that
I had been asked to come over and testify,
1444
01:29:35,078 --> 01:29:39,332
because I'm the only one
who was there the night Mags passed.
1445
01:29:42,043 --> 01:29:44,379
Just after two o'clock,
I'd say, in the morning,
1446
01:29:44,462 --> 01:29:46,964
there was a knock on the bedroom door,
and it was Jason.
1447
01:29:47,048 --> 01:29:51,844
And he said, "Mags isn't well.
She's having a bad asthma attack."
1448
01:29:52,929 --> 01:29:55,348
Mags is in the kitchen holding her chest.
1449
01:29:56,099 --> 01:29:58,017
She had her inhaler in her hand.
1450
01:29:59,852 --> 01:30:04,148
I watched Jason
frantically do everything to save her.
1451
01:30:04,857 --> 01:30:08,986
Tom Marten was saying
that Mike and him had a conversation
1452
01:30:09,070 --> 01:30:12,615
about how Mag died on Jason's hands.
1453
01:30:12,698 --> 01:30:17,537
When we heard this, all my family
were enraged, my father especially.
1454
01:30:17,620 --> 01:30:20,164
He said, "No such thing happened."
1455
01:30:21,874 --> 01:30:24,961
"Until the day I die,
how would I ever believe Jason
1456
01:30:25,044 --> 01:30:26,712
had killed my daughter?"
1457
01:30:28,089 --> 01:30:30,174
They had a beautiful relationship.
1458
01:30:30,258 --> 01:30:31,926
They were a very loving couple.
1459
01:30:32,427 --> 01:30:34,220
And Michael loved Jason.
1460
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:35,805
He was our son.
1461
01:30:37,890 --> 01:30:41,936
We decided Michael would make
a statement to the solicitor.
1462
01:30:42,019 --> 01:30:44,522
My father passed away from cancer,
1463
01:30:44,605 --> 01:30:46,941
so we're speaking on behalf of my dad.
1464
01:30:48,276 --> 01:30:50,611
"Statement of Michael Fitzpatrick."
1465
01:30:52,071 --> 01:30:55,908
"I wish to put it on record
that I only ever met Thomas Martens once."
1466
01:30:56,409 --> 01:30:58,411
"I can also state categorically
1467
01:30:58,494 --> 01:31:01,122
that we never discussed
my daughter Margaret,
1468
01:31:01,205 --> 01:31:03,332
nor did I inform Thomas Martens
1469
01:31:03,416 --> 01:31:05,626
that Jason had killed
my daughter Margaret."
1470
01:31:05,710 --> 01:31:09,672
"Such statements by Thomas Martens
are totally and utterly untrue."
1471
01:31:13,843 --> 01:31:16,762
The Davidson County judge
will hear closing arguments
1472
01:31:16,846 --> 01:31:18,764
from both the state and defense,
1473
01:31:18,848 --> 01:31:21,809
which could lead
to a final decision on sentencing.
1474
01:31:22,310 --> 01:31:26,147
The last thing that happens
before the judge enters his sentence
1475
01:31:26,230 --> 01:31:29,859
is victim impact statements
from Jason's family members,
1476
01:31:29,942 --> 01:31:33,154
and Jack and Sarah are
the most important of who are gonna speak.
1477
01:31:39,494 --> 01:31:41,078
I've written this,
1478
01:31:41,162 --> 01:31:43,664
not just for my dad,
but for myself as well.
1479
01:31:47,710 --> 01:31:49,378
I'm 19 years of age.
1480
01:31:49,879 --> 01:31:52,089
I haven't been able
to speak out for so long,
1481
01:31:52,173 --> 01:31:56,302
and I've had to listen
to lies over the last eight years,
1482
01:31:56,802 --> 01:31:59,222
and this is my opportunity
to say the truth.
1483
01:32:01,933 --> 01:32:05,269
I am old enough,
and I am brave enough now.
1484
01:32:08,898 --> 01:32:11,609
I've always had
someone else tell my story,
1485
01:32:11,692 --> 01:32:15,363
and it's important to me
that I can tell my story myself.
1486
01:32:16,614 --> 01:32:19,242
I'm going to start listening
to "Chicken Fried."
1487
01:32:19,325 --> 01:32:21,494
Do, yeah. Oh, we put it on?
1488
01:32:21,577 --> 01:32:23,329
- We put it on?
- Yeah, do. Yeah, do.
1489
01:32:24,205 --> 01:32:25,915
We used to always play it together.
1490
01:32:29,043 --> 01:32:30,795
It felt like he was beside me.
1491
01:32:33,839 --> 01:32:36,133
You know I like my chicken fried
1492
01:32:36,217 --> 01:32:38,844
A cold beer on a Friday night
1493
01:32:38,928 --> 01:32:41,847
A pair of jeans that fit just right
1494
01:32:41,931 --> 01:32:46,602
And the radio up
1495
01:32:56,529 --> 01:33:00,908
Well, I was raised up
Beneath the shade of a Georgia Pine
1496
01:33:00,992 --> 01:33:02,702
And that's home you know
1497
01:33:02,785 --> 01:33:04,745
Sweet tea, pecan pie
1498
01:33:04,829 --> 01:33:06,622
And homemade wine
1499
01:33:06,706 --> 01:33:08,249
Where the peaches grow
1500
01:33:08,332 --> 01:33:12,295
And my house
It's not much to talk about
1501
01:33:13,754 --> 01:33:17,717
But it's filled with love
That's grown in southern ground
1502
01:33:18,676 --> 01:33:21,012
And a little bit of chicken fried
1503
01:33:21,554 --> 01:33:24,015
A cold beer on a Friday night
1504
01:33:24,098 --> 01:33:26,517
A pair of jeans that fit just right
1505
01:33:27,059 --> 01:33:30,104
And the radio up
1506
01:33:30,187 --> 01:33:31,606
I love to see the sun…
1507
01:33:32,648 --> 01:33:36,027
We are the strongest,
most united together.
1508
01:33:36,110 --> 01:33:37,528
- Yeah.
- You know?
1509
01:33:37,612 --> 01:33:39,739
- And we're gonna do this together.
- Yeah.
1510
01:33:40,323 --> 01:33:43,743
- The last word is yours.
- Look at me. All will be okay.
1511
01:33:43,826 --> 01:33:45,202
Time for crying is over.
1512
01:33:45,286 --> 01:33:48,873
Now it's time to get angry.
In there, head up, shoulders back.
1513
01:33:48,956 --> 01:33:51,500
- Fuck these people. They're nothing to us.
- Yeah.
1514
01:33:51,584 --> 01:33:53,919
Come on, Sarah, give it to us.
What are we gonna do?
1515
01:33:54,003 --> 01:33:55,588
Let's do this!
1516
01:33:55,671 --> 01:33:58,382
So, yeah.
1517
01:34:21,072 --> 01:34:22,865
{\an8}I used to pray at night when I was a kid
1518
01:34:22,948 --> 01:34:25,743
{\an8}that I would wake up
and it would all have been a bad dream.
1519
01:34:26,619 --> 01:34:28,954
{\an8}I've had to experience childhood,
adolescence,
1520
01:34:29,038 --> 01:34:32,041
{\an8}and the beginning of adulthood
without my dad there to guide me.
1521
01:34:32,124 --> 01:34:35,961
Your Honor, don't be fooled
by this mask of civility of Molly Martens.
1522
01:34:36,545 --> 01:34:40,299
She systematically broke me down
and drip-fed me un-truths.
1523
01:34:40,383 --> 01:34:41,342
I want to be clear.
1524
01:34:41,425 --> 01:34:44,553
I have never witnessed
my dad hit Molly Martens, ever.
1525
01:34:46,097 --> 01:34:47,848
Who is the victim here?
1526
01:34:47,932 --> 01:34:50,476
The Martens made my pain so much worse
1527
01:34:50,559 --> 01:34:53,604
by trying to have the world think
my dad was a bad person.
1528
01:34:54,313 --> 01:34:58,150
What Molly and Tom Martens took from me,
I can never get back.
1529
01:34:59,318 --> 01:35:03,197
I've seen my father's bloody handprint
on the door of his bedroom.
1530
01:35:03,906 --> 01:35:06,784
There was nothing voluntary
about his death.
1531
01:35:11,163 --> 01:35:14,333
He did not choose to leave us.
He was taken from us.
1532
01:35:15,251 --> 01:35:16,836
He was the victim.
1533
01:35:21,799 --> 01:35:23,759
Luckily, my dad picked
two wonderful parents
1534
01:35:23,843 --> 01:35:25,344
to guide me through life.
1535
01:35:25,845 --> 01:35:28,723
It hasn't been easy,
but having them made it a lot easier.
1536
01:35:30,641 --> 01:35:34,603
It was only when I went to live
with Tracey and David in Ireland
1537
01:35:34,687 --> 01:35:36,647
that I knew the true meaning of family.
1538
01:35:41,152 --> 01:35:44,447
Molly Corbett and Thomas Marten
are going back to prison
1539
01:35:44,530 --> 01:35:46,198
for the death of Jason Corbett.
1540
01:35:46,282 --> 01:35:51,078
This afternoon, the judge sentenced them
to 51 to 74 months…
1541
01:35:51,162 --> 01:35:53,622
{\an8}…when you factor in
the amount of time they already served
1542
01:35:53,706 --> 01:35:57,001
{\an8}when they were previously found guilty
for second degree murder,
1543
01:35:57,084 --> 01:35:59,211
{\an8}it only adds up
to about seven or eight months.
1544
01:35:59,295 --> 01:36:01,672
{\an8}The judge made it clear
it was difficult for him
1545
01:36:01,756 --> 01:36:03,841
{\an8}to find the truth in this case,
1546
01:36:03,924 --> 01:36:06,302
but made very clear
the kids were blameless.
1547
01:36:06,385 --> 01:36:07,678
That's Jack and Sarah.
1548
01:36:08,262 --> 01:36:11,849
I think Molly did the best job
she could do with raising those kids.
1549
01:36:11,932 --> 01:36:14,727
And it was just very difficult for her
1550
01:36:14,810 --> 01:36:19,732
to have to listen to them saying
that she somehow hurt them,
1551
01:36:19,815 --> 01:36:22,026
um, which I just don't believe is true.
1552
01:36:22,109 --> 01:36:26,655
I did not emotionally, or physically,
or in any way abuse my children.
1553
01:36:26,739 --> 01:36:30,785
The children have been used
as tools of evil.
1554
01:36:31,494 --> 01:36:34,371
Uh, they've been weaponized against me.
1555
01:36:34,455 --> 01:36:38,334
And, uh… they wanted to hurt me,
and they did.
1556
01:36:40,211 --> 01:36:42,087
Do I think those children know the truth?
1557
01:36:42,171 --> 01:36:45,174
I don't know. How do they remember
the times at the beach?
1558
01:36:45,257 --> 01:36:47,676
How do they remember
Molly as the school mother?
1559
01:36:48,260 --> 01:36:50,471
How do they remember
the meals that she made?
1560
01:36:50,554 --> 01:36:52,932
How do they remember the birthday parties?
1561
01:36:53,015 --> 01:36:56,268
How do they remember
her teaching them how to swim?
1562
01:36:56,352 --> 01:36:57,812
How do they remember?
1563
01:36:59,730 --> 01:37:05,528
How can you remember that and hate Molly?
1564
01:37:07,071 --> 01:37:11,909
{\an8}Today, Molly Corbett and Thomas Martens
will walk out of their prisons free.
1565
01:37:15,454 --> 01:37:19,708
I am not allowed to attempt
to have any contact with the kids.
1566
01:37:19,792 --> 01:37:21,335
That's a court order.
1567
01:37:21,418 --> 01:37:23,629
When it comes to, you know, my feelings
1568
01:37:23,712 --> 01:37:26,715
about whether
I consider myself their mother,
1569
01:37:26,799 --> 01:37:29,385
uh, that would cause them
immense pain right now.
1570
01:37:29,468 --> 01:37:32,388
I think that they hate the person
that they think that I am,
1571
01:37:32,471 --> 01:37:35,558
and they think of me as an evil abuser,
1572
01:37:35,641 --> 01:37:37,768
and they think their father was wonderful.
1573
01:37:38,352 --> 01:37:40,688
I certainly am not their mother now.
1574
01:37:40,771 --> 01:37:45,818
Will I always think of myself
as having been their mother?
1575
01:37:45,901 --> 01:37:48,112
Yes, I was. I was their mother.
1576
01:37:48,612 --> 01:37:52,992
I was the mother to the Jack and Sarah
that existed in another lifetime.
1577
01:37:54,994 --> 01:37:56,620
Sarah, how old are you?
1578
01:37:56,704 --> 01:37:57,538
Two.
1579
01:37:58,038 --> 01:37:58,956
Two and a half.
1580
01:37:59,039 --> 01:38:00,040
Yeah.
1581
01:38:00,124 --> 01:38:01,208
How old are you?
1582
01:38:01,292 --> 01:38:03,502
- Four and a half.
- Are you sure you're not one and a half?
1583
01:38:03,586 --> 01:38:05,504
It is true that I loved Molly.
1584
01:38:05,588 --> 01:38:09,842
But just because I loved Molly
doesn't make her a good mother.
1585
01:38:10,426 --> 01:38:12,553
- Say, "Bye, camera."
- Bye, camera.
1586
01:38:14,638 --> 01:38:17,683
I have no feelings
towards her anymore. I don't…
1587
01:38:17,766 --> 01:38:18,767
I don't hate her.
1588
01:38:19,351 --> 01:38:22,104
I just don't want to give her
any power over me anymore.
1589
01:38:25,900 --> 01:38:26,859
Thank you.
1590
01:38:31,989 --> 01:38:34,950
I understand how a lot of people could say
1591
01:38:35,034 --> 01:38:37,411
he's been around people who loved his dad,
1592
01:38:37,494 --> 01:38:41,206
his dad's family,
his dad's friends for eight years,
1593
01:38:41,290 --> 01:38:43,417
that's why he's saying these things.
1594
01:38:46,462 --> 01:38:51,008
But I was always left to come up
with my own decisions, my own opinions.
1595
01:38:53,636 --> 01:38:56,597
My dad was my hero.
He was someone I looked up to.
1596
01:38:56,680 --> 01:38:57,806
He was my best friend.
1597
01:38:58,807 --> 01:39:00,309
{\an8}There's a gorgeous boy.
1598
01:39:01,435 --> 01:39:03,520
{\an8}Jack, blow Daddy a kiss.
1599
01:39:05,397 --> 01:39:07,149
{\an8}Good boy.
1600
01:39:07,232 --> 01:39:08,317
{\an8}Oh, another one.
1601
01:39:09,109 --> 01:39:10,819
What are you doing, Daddy?
1602
01:39:11,487 --> 01:39:12,905
Getting Sarah and Mum.
1603
01:39:13,697 --> 01:39:15,407
They're coming home to Jack's house.
1604
01:39:15,991 --> 01:39:18,577
Hi, Bubba! Give Daddy a kiss?
1605
01:39:19,703 --> 01:39:21,455
- Did you miss Daddy?
- Hi!
1606
01:39:21,538 --> 01:39:24,625
- See what Daddy bought ya.
- Oh, Daddy buy you presents?
1607
01:39:25,125 --> 01:39:28,212
My dad was an amazing person.
He was a good dad.
1608
01:39:29,421 --> 01:39:31,340
He was, like, my biggest cheerleader.
1609
01:39:31,423 --> 01:39:32,549
Go, Sarah!
1610
01:39:36,470 --> 01:39:41,058
I know my dad and my mom
would not want me to sit around upset.
1611
01:39:42,518 --> 01:39:46,230
So, you just have to keep
going forward and make them proud,
1612
01:39:46,313 --> 01:39:49,024
and live the life
that they wanted you to live.
1613
01:39:53,320 --> 01:39:55,614
My dad loved me and Jack.
1614
01:39:56,615 --> 01:39:58,617
We were his everything, and I know that.
1615
01:39:58,701 --> 01:40:02,079
And I'm really proud to say
that I am Jason Corbett's daughter.