1
00:00:20,437 --> 00:00:24,816
A lot of people say
that Vietnam was television's war.

2
00:00:27,444 --> 00:00:30,739
{\an8}No other war had been shown
in this detail.

3
00:00:30,822 --> 00:00:33,616
I'm losing too many men.
If we were to stay here too much longer,

4
00:00:33,700 --> 00:00:36,036
we-- we wouldn't have much left
of this platoon,

5
00:00:36,119 --> 00:00:37,537
let alone the company.

6
00:00:38,913 --> 00:00:42,125
{\an8}Jack Laurence was
a television correspondent,

7
00:00:42,208 --> 00:00:44,044
{\an8}and we were working together.

8
00:00:44,669 --> 00:00:49,132
We decided that the war
could speak for itself

9
00:00:49,215 --> 00:00:52,886
if the people who were fighting it
could speak for themselves.

10
00:00:53,595 --> 00:00:56,556
So we focused on the kids in the field.

11
00:00:56,639 --> 00:00:59,559
{\an8}I can't say that I'm scared stiff,
but I'm scared.

12
00:00:59,642 --> 00:01:01,061
{\an8}I mean, after a while,

13
00:01:01,144 --> 00:01:03,646
{\an8}you know what's gonna come,
and you can't do nothing about it,

14
00:01:03,730 --> 00:01:06,399
{\an8}and you just look to God.
It's about the only thing you can do.

15
00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,403
And what they were doing
was following orders.

16
00:01:10,487 --> 00:01:12,739
They didn't understand the orders,

17
00:01:12,822 --> 00:01:16,618
but they understood
that they were bound by oath

18
00:01:16,701 --> 00:01:19,621
to carry out those orders, and they did.

19
00:01:20,580 --> 00:01:21,956
The rifles have been jamming.

20
00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,293
The-- The mud's been, uh…
slowed everything down,

21
00:01:25,376 --> 00:01:27,754
and the artillery comes in everywhere,

22
00:01:27,837 --> 00:01:31,007
and, uh, it just gets pretty futile
and frustrating sometimes.

23
00:01:31,716 --> 00:01:33,843
{\an8}And they were kids, and we were kids.

24
00:01:37,514 --> 00:01:40,058
And we felt an affinity for them.

25
00:01:41,893 --> 00:01:46,564
We were told about these kids
who would sit on top of their bunker

26
00:01:46,648 --> 00:01:48,566
and sing
"Where Have All the Flowers Gone,"

27
00:01:48,650 --> 00:01:52,195
so we went up and did a story
on these kids who did it.

28
00:01:52,904 --> 00:01:55,740
And even in the V-ring,
life goes on at Khe Sanh.

29
00:01:55,824 --> 00:01:59,953
<i>Young girls, picked them, every one </i>

30
00:02:00,036 --> 00:02:03,623
<i>When will they ever learn? </i>

31
00:02:03,706 --> 00:02:07,752
<i>When will they ever learn? </i>

32
00:02:10,505 --> 00:02:13,925
I notice you sing out,
"When will they ever learn?"

33
00:02:15,093 --> 00:02:18,680
Uh, this is probably the favorite song
around the V-ring.

34
00:02:19,556 --> 00:02:21,516
Do the words have special meaning, or…

35
00:02:21,599 --> 00:02:24,602
or is it just a good song
for homesick soldiers?

36
00:02:25,311 --> 00:02:26,980
"Homesick Marines," I'm sorry.

37
00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,650
Well, I suppose it's a little bit of both.
I mean, it sort of makes sense,

38
00:02:30,733 --> 00:02:32,485
uh, to us anyway,

39
00:02:32,569 --> 00:02:34,946
that people should catch on
to what's going on here,

40
00:02:35,029 --> 00:02:39,033
and… all this protesting back home
kind of bothers us.

41
00:02:39,117 --> 00:02:43,913
But you'd think they'd learn
after a while about these wars and stuff.

42
00:02:46,875 --> 00:02:48,877
We never learn from history.

43
00:02:50,378 --> 00:02:52,380
You know, history repeats itself.

44
00:02:52,463 --> 00:02:55,967
When-- When you see Afghanistan and Iraq,

45
00:02:57,135 --> 00:03:01,347
it's the same scenes
that I shot in Vietnam,

46
00:03:01,431 --> 00:03:04,225
this time being shot
by some other photographer.

47
00:03:17,572 --> 00:03:21,492
As a journalist, we were trying
to show what this war did to kids.

48
00:03:22,619 --> 00:03:25,830
We didn't care
about the generals or the commanders.

49
00:03:25,914 --> 00:03:28,124
We didn't care about the politicians.

50
00:03:28,750 --> 00:03:31,461
We just wanted to show what it was doing

51
00:03:31,544 --> 00:03:35,757
to people that we were standing
or crouching beside.

52
00:04:14,545 --> 00:04:17,382
What sort of a president
do you think you personally would make

53
00:04:17,465 --> 00:04:18,633
for South Vietnam?

54
00:04:18,716 --> 00:04:21,886
The most important
for me, if I were to be elected,

55
00:04:22,679 --> 00:04:25,598
{\an8}and as I think for any future leaders,

56
00:04:26,391 --> 00:04:31,020
{\an8}is, uh, to organize
the stronger political life

57
00:04:31,104 --> 00:04:32,605
{\an8}in-- in Vietnam.

58
00:04:32,689 --> 00:04:36,150
{\an8}Because, uh, if we have
a not stronger political life,

59
00:04:36,234 --> 00:04:38,319
{\an8}we cannot win the war against Communists.

60
00:04:42,657 --> 00:04:45,535
{\an8}In September of '67, there was an election

61
00:04:45,618 --> 00:04:49,080
{\an8}for the presidency and vice presidency
of South Vietnam.

62
00:04:50,665 --> 00:04:54,168
<i>Despite well-publicized threats</i>
<i>of Việt Cộng terror tactics,</i>

63
00:04:54,252 --> 00:04:58,131
<i>83% of the nation's registered voters</i>
<i>flocked to the polling places</i>

64
00:04:58,214 --> 00:04:59,507
<i>to cast their ballots.</i>

65
00:05:02,093 --> 00:05:03,928
{\an8}<i>Thiệu wins the presidency,</i>

66
00:05:04,012 --> 00:05:06,514
{\an8}<i>and former premier Kỳ,</i>
<i>the vice presidency.</i>

67
00:05:08,099 --> 00:05:09,642
{\an8}President Nguyễn Văn Thiệu

68
00:05:09,726 --> 00:05:15,231
{\an8}was born of an ordinary family
in southern-central Vietnam.

69
00:05:17,483 --> 00:05:22,155
He joined the National Vietnamese Army
under French leadership.

70
00:05:23,656 --> 00:05:25,199
{\an8}Thiệu, different.

71
00:05:26,409 --> 00:05:29,370
{\an8}This guy is different.

72
00:05:29,996 --> 00:05:31,164
{\an8}He's a soldier.

73
00:05:31,247 --> 00:05:32,623
Poor, like the other soldiers.

74
00:05:33,791 --> 00:05:36,753
Coming from the rank to become a general,

75
00:05:38,504 --> 00:05:41,007
Thiệu is the smartest general
in the South.

76
00:05:41,716 --> 00:05:42,717
The smartest one.

77
00:05:47,430 --> 00:05:50,933
He was also politically astute.

78
00:05:51,976 --> 00:05:56,022
{\an8}He was able to bring order
into the country

79
00:05:56,105 --> 00:05:58,524
{\an8}after four years of chaos,

80
00:05:58,608 --> 00:06:00,526
after the coup of Ngô Đình Diệm.

81
00:06:01,194 --> 00:06:05,990
And he also oversaw
the creation of a new republic

82
00:06:06,074 --> 00:06:10,703
with the most democratic constitution
Vietnam ever had.

83
00:06:12,747 --> 00:06:16,626
{\an8}When Mr. Thiệu became president,
I became his chief of staff.

84
00:06:17,460 --> 00:06:22,006
{\an8}I was focused on how we could leverage
the help of the Americans,

85
00:06:22,090 --> 00:06:24,050
but also tell the Americans,

86
00:06:24,133 --> 00:06:28,471
"Let's agree on a common strategy
and how to execute that."

87
00:06:29,263 --> 00:06:32,183
But by that time,
the politics got involved.

88
00:06:33,184 --> 00:06:35,103
<i>This fella, Thiêu, um,</i>

89
00:06:35,186 --> 00:06:36,521
<i>most of the people think--</i>

90
00:06:36,604 --> 00:06:38,439
<i>I'm not very good at evaluating,</i>

91
00:06:38,523 --> 00:06:43,319
<i>but most of the folks think,</i>
<i>Westmoreland and-- and Bunker and them…</i>

92
00:06:45,196 --> 00:06:48,241
{\an8}<i>they think that Thiệu</i>
<i>is going to be better than Kỳ.</i>

93
00:06:50,159 --> 00:06:53,079
<i>And I've been suffering</i>
<i>a terrific onslaught.</i>

94
00:06:54,455 --> 00:06:57,500
<i>Our own people plucking</i>
<i>that we ought to get out of the war,</i>

95
00:06:57,583 --> 00:07:01,170
<i>and that they're not dependable,</i>
<i>and that the generals are taking over,</i>

96
00:07:01,254 --> 00:07:05,758
<i>and-- and, uh, it's been quite a problem</i>
<i>for me in my own group.</i>

97
00:07:06,676 --> 00:07:10,930
{\an8}Johnson recognizes that the country
is turning against the war.

98
00:07:13,266 --> 00:07:17,019
His public approval,
approval of his handling of the war,

99
00:07:17,103 --> 00:07:19,981
they're in the 30s by late 1967.

100
00:07:21,774 --> 00:07:25,027
And so Johnson tries
to get out a better message,

101
00:07:25,111 --> 00:07:29,198
and he does that
by bringing home William Westmoreland

102
00:07:29,282 --> 00:07:32,994
to tell the people that the war
really is going better

103
00:07:33,077 --> 00:07:35,413
than you've been led to believe.

104
00:07:36,414 --> 00:07:41,335
{\an8}The enemy has not won
a single significant victory in the South

105
00:07:43,045 --> 00:07:45,006
{\an8}during the last one and a half years.

106
00:07:45,715 --> 00:07:48,926
{\an8}Johnson gets a bump
from that progress campaign,

107
00:07:49,010 --> 00:07:54,015
{\an8}and so he goes into 1968 thinking
that maybe he can turn this thing around.

108
00:07:55,850 --> 00:07:57,852
And then comes the Tết Offensive.

109
00:08:13,659 --> 00:08:15,578
{\an8}<i>The Tết Lunar Holiday.</i>

110
00:08:15,661 --> 00:08:19,916
{\an8}<i>For Asiatics, it's Christmas</i>
<i>and New Year's, and 4th of July,</i>

111
00:08:19,999 --> 00:08:23,503
<i>all rolled into one,</i>
<i>with a little touch of Memorial Day too.</i>

112
00:08:28,966 --> 00:08:30,134
for people to celebrate Tết.

113
00:08:34,514 --> 00:08:38,267
{\an8}Half of the army was allowed
to go home on leave for the Tết holiday.

114
00:08:41,938 --> 00:08:44,190
{\an8}The Americans,
as well as South Vietnamese,

115
00:08:44,273 --> 00:08:48,569
{\an8}believed that Communist forces
would respect the Tết holiday truce.

116
00:08:49,570 --> 00:08:51,072
And in fact, they didn't.

117
00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,959
{\an8}At this time,
I was very well-versed in this mission

118
00:09:03,501 --> 00:09:07,338
because I was a liaison
for the Deputy Commander.

119
00:09:09,090 --> 00:09:11,717
The goal was eight points in Saigon.

120
00:09:12,969 --> 00:09:17,390
The attack on the US Embassy
was approved in the final days,

121
00:09:17,473 --> 00:09:22,103
so the ninth target was the US Embassy.

122
00:09:28,359 --> 00:09:32,530
{\an8}All the entry points into Saigon
had many checkpoints.

123
00:09:32,613 --> 00:09:35,700
This was to tightly control
people coming in and out.

124
00:09:37,785 --> 00:09:40,913
Anyone who wanted to enter
needed identification documents.

125
00:09:42,915 --> 00:09:45,167
In just a short period of time,

126
00:09:45,251 --> 00:09:50,298
there were several hundred
fake ID cards to make.

127
00:09:51,841 --> 00:09:56,220
{\an8}There would be major events happening.

128
00:09:58,014 --> 00:10:00,057
I had taken photos of each person.

129
00:10:03,185 --> 00:10:04,979
I had a premonition

130
00:10:05,062 --> 00:10:09,191
that this meeting with this person
would probably be the last.

131
00:10:16,407 --> 00:10:20,244
January 30,
the city of Saigon was bustling.

132
00:10:21,078 --> 00:10:23,581
There were firecrackers exploding,

133
00:10:23,664 --> 00:10:28,377
and just lots of noise
and traffic flowing around.

134
00:10:29,629 --> 00:10:31,922
About 3:30 in the morning,

135
00:10:32,006 --> 00:10:35,926
{\an8}I heard the, uh, rattle
of machine gun fire

136
00:10:36,010 --> 00:10:37,678
{\an8}and the noise of explosions.

137
00:10:44,435 --> 00:10:49,815
The phone goes, and it's the office,
Ed White at the overnight desk.

138
00:10:49,899 --> 00:10:51,734
And he said, "Peter, get here."

139
00:10:51,817 --> 00:10:55,905
"The VC are attacking the city.
They're shelling it."

140
00:10:58,157 --> 00:11:01,535
{\an8}We heard the sound like…

141
00:11:01,619 --> 00:11:04,705
{\an8}You know? That means
it's already passed over your house.

142
00:11:04,789 --> 00:11:06,374
And we heard, "Boom."

143
00:11:07,792 --> 00:11:11,462
All over the city,
everybody was so scared.

144
00:11:16,217 --> 00:11:18,469
I was surprised. Everybody was surprised.

145
00:11:18,552 --> 00:11:21,889
We expect they will do something.

146
00:11:23,349 --> 00:11:26,936
{\an8}But we didn't expect,
uh, so large an operation

147
00:11:27,019 --> 00:11:29,980
{\an8}that they-- they are able
to-- to penetrate up to that.

148
00:11:30,564 --> 00:11:34,360
They have spies. They have the Việt Cộng
in-- in place to do things.

149
00:11:36,779 --> 00:11:41,534
{\an8}The 1968 Tết Offensive was directed
at attacking the urban centers,

150
00:11:41,617 --> 00:11:44,412
{\an8}and specifically the South Vietnamese
centers of government.

151
00:11:44,495 --> 00:11:50,960
84,000 North Vietnamese and NLF forces
hit five of the six major cities,

152
00:11:51,043 --> 00:11:54,046
the major district capitals,
the province capitals.

153
00:11:54,630 --> 00:11:57,216
Suddenly, they just showed up
in large numbers

154
00:11:57,299 --> 00:12:02,555
{\an8}and attacked the prominent cities,
including the American embassy in Saigon.

155
00:12:06,392 --> 00:12:09,812
{\an8}To prepare to attack
the US Embassy, we gathered 15 people.

156
00:12:09,895 --> 00:12:14,817
{\an8}Seventeen, including a male driver
and a female liaison.

157
00:12:15,443 --> 00:12:17,987
If we didn't have
this woman guide to lead them,

158
00:12:18,070 --> 00:12:21,198
how on earth would they know
how to find the US Embassy?

159
00:12:25,077 --> 00:12:29,039
<i>About 15 Việt Cộng</i>
<i>commandos were now on the embassy grounds.</i>

160
00:12:30,332 --> 00:12:34,253
<i>They had rushed in</i>
<i>under a Việt Cộng mortar and rocket attack</i>

161
00:12:34,336 --> 00:12:38,758
<i>that scored at least two hits on the new,</i>
<i>$3 million, eight-story building.</i>

162
00:12:41,635 --> 00:12:44,346
{\an8}I started walking up to the embassy.

163
00:12:48,934 --> 00:12:54,315
I noticed in the distance the bodies
of three American military police.

164
00:12:54,815 --> 00:12:57,526
There was a dead American Marine there,

165
00:12:57,610 --> 00:13:00,613
and a lot of damage,
and a couple of wounded.

166
00:13:03,783 --> 00:13:07,369
And I take a call from George Jacobson,

167
00:13:07,912 --> 00:13:12,416
who was living in a wooden villa
in the grounds of the embassy.

168
00:13:13,209 --> 00:13:15,294
{\an8}I did not see any VC in the building,

169
00:13:15,377 --> 00:13:19,173
{\an8}except that I knew that there was
at least one VC in my house.

170
00:13:22,885 --> 00:13:26,138
They put riot gas
into the bottom floors of my house,

171
00:13:26,222 --> 00:13:31,644
which, of course, would drive whoever
was down, uh, below up top where I was.

172
00:13:32,228 --> 00:13:36,232
Uh, they had thrown me a pistol
about ten minutes before this occurred.

173
00:13:36,315 --> 00:13:40,152
And with all the luck
that I've had, uh, all of my life,

174
00:13:40,653 --> 00:13:42,488
um, I got him before he got me.

175
00:13:42,571 --> 00:13:44,740
- With the pistol, and he had what?
- I'm sorry.

176
00:13:44,824 --> 00:13:46,325
- An M16.
- And you got him.

177
00:13:47,326 --> 00:13:49,829
None of the raiders lived
to tell of their exploit.

178
00:13:49,912 --> 00:13:52,832
By eight o'clock,
five hours after they first broke in,

179
00:13:52,915 --> 00:13:54,667
almost all of them were dead.

180
00:13:55,584 --> 00:13:59,004
General Westmoreland arrived
at the embassy,

181
00:13:59,672 --> 00:14:04,718
and walking around the carnage,
the VC bodies and wreckage,

182
00:14:05,344 --> 00:14:09,515
said, "This has been
a great victory for us today."

183
00:14:10,933 --> 00:14:14,895
The enemy exposed himself
by virtue of this strategy,

184
00:14:15,771 --> 00:14:17,857
and he suffered great casualties.

185
00:14:17,940 --> 00:14:20,693
And I was thinking at the time, "Huh?"

186
00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:25,781
Nearly all 40 province capitals
were attacked by the Việt Cộng

187
00:14:25,865 --> 00:14:27,950
and North Vietnamese troops.

188
00:14:30,119 --> 00:14:31,620
It's a real disaster,

189
00:14:31,704 --> 00:14:36,208
especially after Johnson and his team
have been telling the country

190
00:14:36,292 --> 00:14:38,752
that there's light
at the end of the tunnel.

191
00:14:46,176 --> 00:14:49,597
<i>I don't think</i>
<i>it's a last-gasp, uh, action.</i>

192
00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:53,601
{\an8}<i>I do think that it represents,</i>
<i>uh, a maximum effort</i>

193
00:14:53,684 --> 00:14:56,687
{\an8}<i>in the sense of,</i>
<i>they've poured on all of their assets…</i>

194
00:14:57,479 --> 00:15:00,065
<i>It's-- It's largely a propaganda effort,</i>

195
00:15:00,149 --> 00:15:03,277
<i>and a publicity effort,</i>
<i>and I think they'll gain that way.</i>

196
00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,280
<i>I imagine our people across the country</i>
<i>this morning will-- will feel</i>

197
00:15:06,363 --> 00:15:09,366
<i>that, uh… that, uh, they're much stronger</i>

198
00:15:09,450 --> 00:15:12,244
<i>than they had previously</i>
<i>anticipated they were.</i>

199
00:15:12,328 --> 00:15:14,538
<i>And in that sense, I think they gain.</i>

200
00:15:16,916 --> 00:15:19,126
How long you been fighting in Saigon?

201
00:15:19,209 --> 00:15:23,172
It's broke out about six, seven days ago.
I've been fighting ever since then.

202
00:15:23,797 --> 00:15:25,674
- You been fighting out in the field too?
- Right.

203
00:15:25,758 --> 00:15:27,593
- Which do you prefer?
- The field.

204
00:15:27,676 --> 00:15:28,761
- Why?
- I don't know.

205
00:15:28,844 --> 00:15:30,262
You can't find 'em around here.

206
00:15:31,597 --> 00:15:36,685
The Tết attacks lasted
all the way, uh, until March of 1968.

207
00:15:36,769 --> 00:15:38,562
{\an8}This is the first time

208
00:15:38,646 --> 00:15:41,315
{\an8}that the North had actually captured

209
00:15:41,398 --> 00:15:44,318
{\an8}South territory and held it,

210
00:15:45,194 --> 00:15:46,987
major cities like Huế.

211
00:15:52,451 --> 00:15:53,744
{\an8}If Huế fell,

212
00:15:53,827 --> 00:15:56,872
{\an8}the historical imperial seat
of South Vietnam,

213
00:15:56,956 --> 00:15:58,457
it would crush morale,

214
00:15:58,540 --> 00:16:00,960
and the whole part
of the country could fall.

215
00:16:04,338 --> 00:16:07,007
{\an8}<i>The 324th Division</i>
<i>of the North Vietnamese Army</i>

216
00:16:07,091 --> 00:16:09,343
{\an8}<i>had been given the task of taking Huế.</i>

217
00:16:13,305 --> 00:16:16,934
{\an8}<i>The citadel itself was seized</i>
<i>by a North Vietnamese battalion.</i>

218
00:16:19,853 --> 00:16:21,480
On one side of the river,

219
00:16:21,563 --> 00:16:27,111
{\an8}there was the citadel
that was surrounded by North Vietnamese,

220
00:16:27,194 --> 00:16:28,779
and very heavy fighting there.

221
00:16:29,446 --> 00:16:32,992
{\an8}And on the other side of the river
was a warehouse building

222
00:16:33,075 --> 00:16:36,745
{\an8}that was the US presence
on that side of the river.

223
00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:42,918
{\an8}And their mission was
to recapture the city.

224
00:16:48,674 --> 00:16:50,259
{\an8}It was pretty bad.

225
00:16:50,342 --> 00:16:54,304
{\an8}There were something
like 10,000 North Vietnamese.

226
00:16:55,180 --> 00:16:58,892
{\an8}And here you're looking at Marines
that are going in,

227
00:16:58,976 --> 00:17:01,395
not knowing what they're going to face,

228
00:17:01,478 --> 00:17:02,938
what that force was.

229
00:17:03,814 --> 00:17:05,357
And so they got chewed up.

230
00:17:09,820 --> 00:17:12,239
I was actually a replacement

231
00:17:12,322 --> 00:17:16,410
for so many of, you know,
the Marines that were killed.

232
00:17:19,705 --> 00:17:22,374
Colonel Cheatham,
what's the objective and your…?

233
00:17:22,458 --> 00:17:24,001
What are your men about to do?

234
00:17:24,835 --> 00:17:26,503
Well, I've-- I've got two companies here

235
00:17:26,587 --> 00:17:30,132
that are just about to clear
the next two blocks up.

236
00:17:30,215 --> 00:17:32,009
What kind of fighting is it going to be?

237
00:17:32,092 --> 00:17:34,636
It's house to house and from room to room.

238
00:17:35,262 --> 00:17:38,182
- Kind of inch by inch?
- That's-- That's exactly what it is.

239
00:17:40,059 --> 00:17:43,228
They were fighting
just to get across the street.

240
00:17:45,397 --> 00:17:47,900
<i>As the Marines advance</i>
<i>building after building,</i>

241
00:17:47,983 --> 00:17:50,569
<i>the North Vietnamese retreat</i>
<i>building after building,</i>

242
00:17:50,652 --> 00:17:52,863
<i>giving up nothing without a fight.</i>

243
00:17:52,946 --> 00:17:55,365
You know, this just went on day after day.

244
00:17:56,075 --> 00:17:58,410
{\an8}It's been like this all weekend in Huế,

245
00:17:58,494 --> 00:18:01,288
{\an8}one nasty little firefight
right after another.

246
00:18:01,997 --> 00:18:03,540
{\an8}Rounds going overhead.

247
00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:13,884
What do you think of at a time like this?

248
00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:16,136
Well, keeping down.

249
00:18:17,638 --> 00:18:19,932
Bullets are flying over here too fast.

250
00:18:24,228 --> 00:18:26,271
{\an8}I was a platoon sergeant.

251
00:18:26,355 --> 00:18:28,482
{\an8}My outfit was gonna defend Huế.

252
00:18:30,734 --> 00:18:33,821
{\an8}And I remember not being able
to get the wounded out.

253
00:18:34,488 --> 00:18:36,782
And that's when I first saw

254
00:18:36,865 --> 00:18:39,368
my fellow soldiers
being wounded in combat,

255
00:18:39,451 --> 00:18:41,120
being killed in combat.

256
00:18:42,746 --> 00:18:45,457
And when you are a small unit leader,

257
00:18:45,541 --> 00:18:48,293
you know,
a part of you gets wounded as well,

258
00:18:48,377 --> 00:18:50,003
and a part of you dies.

259
00:18:51,505 --> 00:18:55,008
Because now you--
you are close to these men.

260
00:19:00,305 --> 00:19:04,351
Many homes were entered
and searched for block after block.

261
00:19:04,434 --> 00:19:08,021
Wherever the Communists went,
the people fled.

262
00:19:14,236 --> 00:19:17,156
Civilians had been kidnapped
by the Communists.

263
00:19:17,239 --> 00:19:19,825
When the Communists first entered Huế,

264
00:19:19,908 --> 00:19:23,704
{\an8}they came into their homes
and then took them away,

265
00:19:23,787 --> 00:19:26,165
{\an8}and they haven't heard from them since.

266
00:19:36,133 --> 00:19:39,344
Huế was able
to successfully push out the Communists.

267
00:19:41,138 --> 00:19:46,393
Huế suffered the most
during the Tết Offensive.

268
00:19:49,730 --> 00:19:54,318
{\an8}The fighting in Huế was the most horrific.

269
00:19:55,027 --> 00:20:00,324
It was just a…
a very gruesome, ugly battle.

270
00:20:04,036 --> 00:20:05,829
But from my own position,

271
00:20:06,371 --> 00:20:08,624
it was the first time I thought,

272
00:20:08,707 --> 00:20:11,001
"God, we can really lose this war."

273
00:20:12,753 --> 00:20:14,463
And it was all new.

274
00:20:14,546 --> 00:20:19,176
And your thinking of the war
becomes all new.

275
00:20:26,099 --> 00:20:28,268
Are you finished?
We want to get the hell out.

276
00:20:29,186 --> 00:20:33,440
{\an8}By the time Communist forces
had to withdraw from the city,

277
00:20:33,523 --> 00:20:37,486
{\an8}Communist forces on the ground
ended up killing off any witnesses

278
00:20:37,569 --> 00:20:40,239
{\an8}in addition to actual prisoners of war.

279
00:20:43,116 --> 00:20:46,620
They were killing those people
on their way out of the city,

280
00:20:46,703 --> 00:20:49,206
and nobody could know where they were.

281
00:20:51,208 --> 00:20:56,421
Until a year later,
they discovered three mass graves in Huế.

282
00:20:59,758 --> 00:21:03,428
I accompanied officials
to dig up the grave.

283
00:21:06,848 --> 00:21:10,185
That was the most horrifying scene
I have ever seen.

284
00:21:11,144 --> 00:21:14,314
There was almost 1,300 bodies.

285
00:21:19,653 --> 00:21:24,491
Many of them were soldiers
and officers and political leaders

286
00:21:24,574 --> 00:21:25,867
of the province.

287
00:21:28,287 --> 00:21:32,374
{\an8}But they also killed many
who they thought were anti-Communists,

288
00:21:32,457 --> 00:21:34,543
{\an8}even though they were ordinary people.

289
00:21:35,752 --> 00:21:38,171
Even after one year in the grave,

290
00:21:38,255 --> 00:21:44,011
I could see that some dead bodies
were still in high school uniforms

291
00:21:44,761 --> 00:21:47,848
with their arms tied in behind their back.

292
00:21:49,766 --> 00:21:53,520
Here are the people
who claim to come to liberate the South.

293
00:21:54,271 --> 00:21:56,690
Why did they need to kill those people?

294
00:21:59,067 --> 00:22:02,863
The Communists tried to claim
that they were killed by American bombs

295
00:22:02,946 --> 00:22:04,406
and South Vietnamese bombs.

296
00:22:05,198 --> 00:22:08,702
But people who had
hands tied behind their backs,

297
00:22:08,785 --> 00:22:11,079
you know, that--
that was not American bombs.

298
00:22:12,372 --> 00:22:15,667
We still don't know
how many were killed by Communist forces

299
00:22:15,751 --> 00:22:18,462
when they left
the imperial capital of Huế,

300
00:22:18,545 --> 00:22:23,175
but anywhere from 2,800 to 6,000
South Vietnamese civilians were killed.

301
00:22:25,594 --> 00:22:27,888
That's one of the most brutal examples

302
00:22:27,971 --> 00:22:30,891
of the Vietnamese civil war
that was taking place.

303
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,995
The Tết Offensive is
a massive and major turning point

304
00:22:52,079 --> 00:22:52,913
in the war.

305
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,794
{\an8}It's in some ways a great military defeat
for the Communists.

306
00:23:01,546 --> 00:23:03,173
It was a suicide attack.

307
00:23:05,092 --> 00:23:08,428
More than 40,000 Communist troops,

308
00:23:09,846 --> 00:23:12,557
ultimately, about a third of their forces,

309
00:23:13,433 --> 00:23:16,269
they exposed themselves,
and they were destroyed.

310
00:23:20,982 --> 00:23:24,820
{\an8}President Nguyễn Văn Thiệu
oversaw military efforts

311
00:23:24,903 --> 00:23:27,072
{\an8}in response to the Tết Offensives.

312
00:23:28,198 --> 00:23:31,493
{\an8}The South Vietnamese military
fought bravely

313
00:23:31,576 --> 00:23:36,790
and regained the territory lost
to the Communist forces on the ground.

314
00:23:38,208 --> 00:23:42,129
The Tết Offensive helped rally
South Vietnamese to the government,

315
00:23:42,212 --> 00:23:46,883
and we could see a spike
in recruitment afterwards

316
00:23:46,967 --> 00:23:49,803
of people volunteering
to serve in the army.

317
00:23:52,973 --> 00:23:55,725
{\an8}The Tết Offensive
has exposed the insurgency.

318
00:23:55,809 --> 00:23:59,813
{\an8}It's to the point where they had been,
if not destroyed, certainly devastated.

319
00:24:00,439 --> 00:24:04,151
The problem is that's not the narrative
that occurs back home.

320
00:24:06,570 --> 00:24:08,071
From the American perspective,

321
00:24:08,155 --> 00:24:11,199
you had Westmoreland and the US government

322
00:24:11,283 --> 00:24:13,201
touting how we are winning the war.

323
00:24:13,910 --> 00:24:17,664
Suddenly, you had
this massive attack across the country,

324
00:24:17,747 --> 00:24:18,874
which gave lie to that.

325
00:24:21,626 --> 00:24:24,504
I think the greatest victory
that the Tết Offensive had

326
00:24:24,588 --> 00:24:26,506
was on the American public.

327
00:24:26,590 --> 00:24:30,760
{\an8}I think it killed once and for all
in the minds of the people of America,

328
00:24:30,844 --> 00:24:33,722
{\an8}and also in the Johnson administration,

329
00:24:33,805 --> 00:24:37,934
{\an8}the idea that a military victory
was possible in Vietnam.

330
00:24:38,894 --> 00:24:41,480
As 1968 unfolded,

331
00:24:41,563 --> 00:24:44,941
{\an8}President Johnson felt himself
caught in a vice.

332
00:24:51,156 --> 00:24:53,658
<i>I don't admit</i>
<i>that this is a Communist victory.</i>

333
00:24:53,742 --> 00:24:56,495
<i>And I don't think anybody</i>
<i>but a goddamn Communist admits it.</i>

334
00:24:56,578 --> 00:24:58,413
- <i>Yeah.</i>
- <i>That's what I think.</i>

335
00:24:58,497 --> 00:25:02,083
<i>And I just think they're using us,</i>
<i>just playing games around us…</i>

336
00:25:02,167 --> 00:25:04,419
<i>And nearly everybody I talk to</i>
<i>tries to find out</i>

337
00:25:04,503 --> 00:25:07,714
<i>what's wrong with our boys,</i>
<i>our country, our leadership, our men.</i>

338
00:25:07,797 --> 00:25:10,550
<i>Our president's a liar.</i>
<i>Westmoreland's no good.</i>

339
00:25:11,551 --> 00:25:14,513
One of the roles
a journalist is supposed to play

340
00:25:14,596 --> 00:25:17,224
is to bear witness
to what's really going on

341
00:25:17,307 --> 00:25:21,978
as opposed to what somebody in power
wants to convince you is going on.

342
00:25:24,231 --> 00:25:28,944
{\an8}Walter Cronkite was managing editor
and anchor of the CBS Evening News.

343
00:25:29,569 --> 00:25:32,822
One of, at the time, three major networks.

344
00:25:34,115 --> 00:25:37,202
More than anybody else
on the air, television,

345
00:25:37,285 --> 00:25:39,746
he was seen as a trusted source.

346
00:25:40,622 --> 00:25:42,749
He had demonstrated time and time again

347
00:25:42,832 --> 00:25:47,128
that he wasn't trying to sell anything
ideologically or politically.

348
00:25:48,213 --> 00:25:52,342
After the Tết Offensive,
his correspondents, including this one,

349
00:25:52,425 --> 00:25:56,471
had time after time told him,
"Walter, this is not going well."

350
00:25:58,515 --> 00:26:02,519
Cronkite finally said, "Well, I want to go
to Vietnam and see for myself."

351
00:26:05,438 --> 00:26:08,024
<i>Tonight, "Report From Vietnam"</i>

352
00:26:08,108 --> 00:26:09,818
<i>by Walter Cronkite.</i>

353
00:26:11,194 --> 00:26:14,823
{\an8}If the Communist intention
was to take and seize the cities,

354
00:26:14,906 --> 00:26:17,826
{\an8}they came closer here at Huế
than anywhere else.

355
00:26:17,909 --> 00:26:20,495
The destruction here was almost total.

356
00:26:20,579 --> 00:26:24,207
There's scarcely an inhabitable building
in the city of Huế.

357
00:26:35,844 --> 00:26:41,725
{\an8}The boss at CBS News at the time
was a very strict journalism devotee

358
00:26:41,808 --> 00:26:44,102
and would not permit any of us

359
00:26:44,185 --> 00:26:48,773
to ever do anything
like an editorial comment at all.

360
00:26:49,357 --> 00:26:52,694
But now I came back
and suddenly he said, "You know what?"

361
00:26:53,528 --> 00:26:57,574
"We may have a responsibility here
we haven't recognized."

362
00:26:57,657 --> 00:27:00,702
"I think you, Cronkite,
ought to do a piece

363
00:27:00,785 --> 00:27:05,206
saying just exactly what you think
about the situation out there."

364
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,210
And so I sat down and wrote my piece.

365
00:27:12,380 --> 00:27:16,343
{\an8}We have been too often disappointed
by the optimism of the American leaders,

366
00:27:16,426 --> 00:27:18,303
{\an8}both in Vietnam and Washington,

367
00:27:18,386 --> 00:27:19,804
to have faith any longer

368
00:27:19,888 --> 00:27:23,433
in the silver linings
they find in the darkest clouds.

369
00:27:24,392 --> 00:27:26,770
For it seems now more certain than ever

370
00:27:26,853 --> 00:27:31,232
that the bloody experience of Vietnam
is to end in a stalemate.

371
00:27:33,818 --> 00:27:36,488
It is increasingly clear to this reporter

372
00:27:36,571 --> 00:27:42,577
that the only rational way out, then,
will be to negotiate not as victors

373
00:27:42,661 --> 00:27:44,329
but as an honorable people

374
00:27:44,412 --> 00:27:47,207
who lived up to their pledge
to defend democracy

375
00:27:47,749 --> 00:27:49,459
and did the best they could.

376
00:27:50,502 --> 00:27:52,629
This is Walter Cronkite. Good night.

377
00:28:00,345 --> 00:28:02,430
He didn't say we're losing the war.

378
00:28:03,014 --> 00:28:05,475
What he said was, "It's a standoff."

379
00:28:05,558 --> 00:28:08,144
"The US forces can't prevail here."

380
00:28:09,396 --> 00:28:13,733
The fact that Walter Cronkite
would say this directly made a big impact.

381
00:28:15,568 --> 00:28:18,113
Lyndon Johnson is reported to have said,

382
00:28:18,905 --> 00:28:22,951
"If I've lost Cronkite,
I've lost Middle America."

383
00:28:24,035 --> 00:28:29,541
{\an8}Walter Cronkite admitted the obvious,
that our soldiers were dying for nothing.

384
00:28:34,087 --> 00:28:37,257
Vietnam was the first war

385
00:28:37,340 --> 00:28:42,303
where mothers could actually see
what their sons were doing at work.

386
00:28:43,263 --> 00:28:49,352
And we talked directly to the mothers,
and they were saying, "Not this."

387
00:28:49,853 --> 00:28:54,607
All I can say is I-- I'm not as patriotic
as I used to be after losing Billy.

388
00:28:55,191 --> 00:28:56,484
And I have a son that's…

389
00:28:57,694 --> 00:29:00,280
Well, he's just determined
he's going to go over.

390
00:29:01,781 --> 00:29:04,325
{\an8}The US lost the mothers,

391
00:29:04,951 --> 00:29:07,162
so we lost the war.

392
00:29:09,456 --> 00:29:11,541
{\an8}<i>This morning,</i>
<i>the </i>New York Times <i>revealed</i>

393
00:29:11,624 --> 00:29:16,463
{\an8}<i>that General Westmoreland is asking</i>
<i>for 206,000 more men in Vietnam.</i>

394
00:29:17,046 --> 00:29:20,049
<i>The </i>Times <i>report says</i>
<i>a divisive internal debate has begun</i>

395
00:29:20,133 --> 00:29:23,511
<i>at high levels of the administration</i>
<i>because of this request.</i>

396
00:29:24,512 --> 00:29:28,016
{\an8}The Tết Offensive was a tremendous
setback for the United States,

397
00:29:28,099 --> 00:29:30,101
{\an8}and it was compounded by the fact

398
00:29:30,185 --> 00:29:32,395
{\an8}that Westmoreland then went

399
00:29:32,479 --> 00:29:35,732
and asked Washington
for 206,000 more troops.

400
00:29:37,317 --> 00:29:39,486
{\an8}This is a measure now
of how things have changed,

401
00:29:39,569 --> 00:29:42,530
{\an8}because now this message
is harder to make stick.

402
00:29:45,450 --> 00:29:48,453
The Tết Offensive was
very effective in helping to mobilize

403
00:29:48,536 --> 00:29:50,580
anti-war feeling in the United States.

404
00:29:53,208 --> 00:29:56,753
{\an8}And so in 1968, the anti-war movement grew

405
00:29:56,836 --> 00:30:01,090
{\an8}simply out of opposition
to these human consequences.

406
00:30:11,726 --> 00:30:15,313
Seeing the graphic images
of the Tết Offensive

407
00:30:15,396 --> 00:30:18,233
marked a turning point
in the American conscience

408
00:30:18,316 --> 00:30:19,734
during the Vietnam War.

409
00:30:21,694 --> 00:30:23,947
It certainly was the catalyst for me,

410
00:30:24,030 --> 00:30:29,994
and, I think, hundreds of thousands
of American students like me,

411
00:30:30,954 --> 00:30:33,957
and millions of young people
around the world,

412
00:30:34,791 --> 00:30:38,002
{\an8}to see those graphic images
and just say, "Enough."

413
00:30:40,922 --> 00:30:44,050
{\an8}Life and death is--
is a much more serious matter than this,

414
00:30:44,133 --> 00:30:48,054
and if we're-- if we're this confused
as to our objectives and their objectives

415
00:30:48,137 --> 00:30:49,639
and what this whole thing is about,

416
00:30:49,722 --> 00:30:54,018
{\an8}that we've got to stop
the-- the agony of this conflict

417
00:30:54,102 --> 00:30:56,229
{\an8}and try to-- to get some reason into it.

418
00:30:58,481 --> 00:31:00,650
1968 was a pivotal year,

419
00:31:02,068 --> 00:31:06,364
{\an8}and, of course, the deadliest chapter
in terms of the war in Vietnam.

420
00:31:17,458 --> 00:31:21,880
{\an8}I was a photographer,
31st Public Information Office.

421
00:31:21,963 --> 00:31:24,132
{\an8}We were attached
to the 11th Infantry Brigade,

422
00:31:24,215 --> 00:31:26,676
{\an8}which was attached
to the Americal Division.

423
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,431
{\an8}My role in the Army
was to document operations.

424
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,518
{\an8}I went on different patrols
with different units.

425
00:31:36,895 --> 00:31:39,355
{\an8}Usually, a journalist or writer
would accompany me,

426
00:31:39,439 --> 00:31:41,983
{\an8}and then that writer would have
to go ahead and write a story

427
00:31:42,066 --> 00:31:43,610
{\an8}about the photographs that I've taken.

428
00:31:45,028 --> 00:31:47,322
{\an8}It was mainly to show
how good we're doing,

429
00:31:47,405 --> 00:31:49,824
{\an8}what we could do humanitarian-wise.

430
00:31:52,952 --> 00:31:55,079
{\an8}Charlie Company was
in the Americal Division,

431
00:31:55,163 --> 00:31:56,456
{\an8}and they were assigned

432
00:31:56,539 --> 00:32:01,044
{\an8}to a peculiarly troublesome,
rebellious section

433
00:32:01,127 --> 00:32:02,670
in Quảng Ngãi Province.

434
00:32:06,633 --> 00:32:10,053
{\an8}Captain Medina was
a company commander, respected.

435
00:32:11,346 --> 00:32:13,848
I knew Captain Medina
from our station in Hawaii.

436
00:32:13,932 --> 00:32:17,393
He was strict,
but he seemed dedicated to the service.

437
00:32:17,977 --> 00:32:20,939
He just… had a good way with the troops.

438
00:32:22,482 --> 00:32:23,733
Medina's the captain,

439
00:32:23,816 --> 00:32:26,152
he's the head honcho, put it that way,

440
00:32:26,736 --> 00:32:28,821
and there were three lieutenants
underneath him

441
00:32:28,905 --> 00:32:30,615
that had platoons assigned to 'em.

442
00:32:32,116 --> 00:32:35,370
Lt. William Calley,
he's in charge of the 1st Platoon.

443
00:32:36,079 --> 00:32:38,456
From my understanding,
he was not well-respected.

444
00:32:39,916 --> 00:32:43,962
Lt. Calley was not
a particularly strong leader.

445
00:32:44,045 --> 00:32:46,130
Not a strong person. That's the problem.

446
00:32:49,258 --> 00:32:51,177
In Vietnam, a big thing is body count.

447
00:32:51,260 --> 00:32:53,012
Everybody wants to know the body count.

448
00:32:53,096 --> 00:32:55,098
Charlie Company,
they were getting a bit harped on

449
00:32:55,181 --> 00:32:57,141
because they haven't had any kills.

450
00:32:57,642 --> 00:33:01,145
They were taking more casualties
than they were getting enemy kills.

451
00:33:03,231 --> 00:33:06,985
During the operation,
Charlie Company walked into a minefield,

452
00:33:07,068 --> 00:33:09,404
and they lost a few of their men

453
00:33:09,487 --> 00:33:11,614
{\an8}and their favorite sergeant
to a booby trap.

454
00:33:13,157 --> 00:33:14,909
{\an8}It just became a hard situation.

455
00:33:16,369 --> 00:33:17,829
Guerrilla war is terrible.

456
00:33:18,579 --> 00:33:22,917
What do you do with the tragedies
when you see your buddies killed?

457
00:33:24,752 --> 00:33:27,171
{\an8}No one belittles the emotion.

458
00:33:28,798 --> 00:33:30,633
{\an8}But you don't kill for revenge.

459
00:33:31,342 --> 00:33:35,138
{\an8}From a sergeant on up,
you expect people to control that.

460
00:33:37,015 --> 00:33:40,810
But Lt. Calley's men were not disciplined,

461
00:33:41,561 --> 00:33:45,523
and in the military,
the slippage of discipline is disastrous.

462
00:33:50,403 --> 00:33:53,573
They had sub-hamlets.
There was Mỹ Lai 1, 2, 3, and 4.

463
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:55,366
On March 15th,

464
00:33:55,450 --> 00:33:59,162
we were told a Việt Cộng battalion
was supposed to be in Mỹ Lai 4.

465
00:34:00,955 --> 00:34:04,667
Captain Medina briefed his people
that night, emotionally.

466
00:34:05,460 --> 00:34:08,588
Charlie Company was expected,
you know, to do some damage

467
00:34:08,671 --> 00:34:10,006
when they hit the village.

468
00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:21,809
I was born in the village of Sơn Mỹ.

469
00:34:27,148 --> 00:34:30,359
I had just turned 11 years old.

470
00:34:37,700 --> 00:34:39,660
I was 13 years old.

471
00:34:40,161 --> 00:34:43,122
I lived with six siblings

472
00:34:43,206 --> 00:34:47,001
and an older sister
who had business far from home.

473
00:34:50,713 --> 00:34:54,342
Lt. Calley
and 1st Platoon and part of 2nd Platoon

474
00:34:54,425 --> 00:34:55,802
went on the first lift.

475
00:34:56,552 --> 00:34:59,847
They were the ones who went directly
into the hamlet of Mỹ Lai.

476
00:35:06,896 --> 00:35:09,482
{\an8}Jay Roberts, an Army reporter, and I

477
00:35:09,565 --> 00:35:11,776
{\an8}were on the second lift
of the choppers going in,

478
00:35:11,859 --> 00:35:15,071
{\an8}and the pilot came over the radio
and said we're entering in a "hot zone,"

479
00:35:15,154 --> 00:35:17,657
{\an8}which means
there's a lot of firing going on.

480
00:35:20,284 --> 00:35:21,619
When the chopper put down,

481
00:35:21,702 --> 00:35:24,705
all I could hear
was enormous amount of gunfire.

482
00:35:24,789 --> 00:35:26,457
So we jumped out of the choppers,

483
00:35:26,541 --> 00:35:29,252
and we tried, you know,
ducking down in a rice field.

484
00:35:30,670 --> 00:35:33,422
But we realized
we weren't receiving any fire.

485
00:35:35,091 --> 00:35:37,844
Everything being fired at
was within the village.

486
00:35:39,512 --> 00:35:43,266
The US Armed Forces bombarded the village

487
00:35:43,349 --> 00:35:44,934
with their artillery.

488
00:35:46,018 --> 00:35:49,564
First, they started killing people
walking on the road,

489
00:35:49,647 --> 00:35:52,608
people going to school,
people going to the market.

490
00:35:54,402 --> 00:35:56,612
After that,
they marched in a horizontal line

491
00:35:56,696 --> 00:35:58,281
and advanced into the village.

492
00:36:00,032 --> 00:36:04,370
As they entered each house,
they killed everyone in it.

493
00:36:04,453 --> 00:36:10,168
They consolidated people
and began to kill everyone.

494
00:36:14,797 --> 00:36:18,342
I noticed a whole group
of people surrounded by a couple of GIs.

495
00:36:18,426 --> 00:36:20,344
They looked more to me like civilians.

496
00:36:21,304 --> 00:36:24,557
As I walked, maybe about five yards ahead,
I heard firing.

497
00:36:27,059 --> 00:36:28,811
I looked over my shoulder.

498
00:36:28,895 --> 00:36:30,980
There was two soldiers there,
firing into 'em,

499
00:36:31,063 --> 00:36:32,732
and one was Lt. Calley.

500
00:36:34,358 --> 00:36:35,234
I couldn't understand.

501
00:36:35,318 --> 00:36:37,945
You got somebody captured,
why would you fire into 'em?

502
00:36:38,029 --> 00:36:39,739
You know, you should interrogate 'em.

503
00:36:40,823 --> 00:36:42,742
People were trying to get up and run.

504
00:36:42,825 --> 00:36:45,870
I mean, just killing everything
in their path along the way.

505
00:36:47,330 --> 00:36:49,207
They captured our relatives

506
00:36:49,290 --> 00:36:51,334
and led them to Mrs. Ly's ditch.

507
00:36:53,878 --> 00:36:57,131
The ditch was completely full
of blood and dead people.

508
00:37:01,219 --> 00:37:05,681
They captured 102 people and led them
to the watchtower at the village gate,

509
00:37:06,265 --> 00:37:11,562
and they killed them there
in Mr. Nhiều's rice paddy.

510
00:37:11,646 --> 00:37:13,522
All 102 of them.

511
00:37:17,443 --> 00:37:19,946
Jay and I started back toward the village.

512
00:37:20,029 --> 00:37:21,989
And I happened to stumble over this woman

513
00:37:22,073 --> 00:37:24,533
I previously witnessed
being shot in the head.

514
00:37:27,536 --> 00:37:28,788
Jay and I looked at each other,

515
00:37:28,871 --> 00:37:30,581
and I said,
"What the hell is going on here?"

516
00:37:30,665 --> 00:37:33,334
"We have to find Medina.
This is all wrong."

517
00:37:33,417 --> 00:37:36,128
Because the GIs
that have done the shooting,

518
00:37:36,212 --> 00:37:40,216
they're like… almost like zombies.
They're not saying anything,

519
00:37:40,299 --> 00:37:42,260
they're just shooting
and shooting and shooting.

520
00:37:43,469 --> 00:37:46,472
{\an8}We spotted Medina
on the outskirts of Mỹ Lai.

521
00:37:46,555 --> 00:37:48,432
{\an8}He was there with his command group.

522
00:37:49,058 --> 00:37:50,351
{\an8}We tried talking to him,

523
00:37:50,434 --> 00:37:53,104
but he was on the radio all the time.
There was no chance.

524
00:37:54,355 --> 00:37:57,900
{\an8}I remember Sergeant Minh,
interpreter, Vietnamese,

525
00:37:57,984 --> 00:37:59,652
{\an8}he was trying to talk to Medina too.

526
00:38:00,444 --> 00:38:02,905
{\an8}He was just standing there,
shaking his head,

527
00:38:02,989 --> 00:38:06,325
{\an8}"Why are they killing my people?
They're not soldiers."

528
00:38:06,909 --> 00:38:09,537
{\an8}Jay and I decided to go into the village
to see what was going on.

529
00:38:10,913 --> 00:38:14,208
That was a nightmare.
Bodies all over the place.

530
00:38:15,751 --> 00:38:19,255
At eight o'clock in
the morning, soldiers came to my family.

531
00:38:20,256 --> 00:38:25,886
They sat us in the front yard
and killed three cows in the barn.

532
00:38:26,470 --> 00:38:29,598
They proceeded to burn
our house and our barn.

533
00:38:29,682 --> 00:38:31,976
They shoved the six of us,
including my mother,

534
00:38:32,059 --> 00:38:33,352
into an underground shelter.

535
00:38:35,187 --> 00:38:39,608
In the moment, my mother sensed
the Americans' intent to kill.

536
00:38:40,109 --> 00:38:43,487
So, she told us, her children,
to go down to the shelter first.

537
00:38:43,571 --> 00:38:46,657
She would enter behind us
to shield us from bullets.

538
00:38:48,117 --> 00:38:51,996
Once everyone was inside,
they threw in grenades to kill us all.

539
00:38:53,164 --> 00:38:56,959
I fainted and blacked out.

540
00:39:01,714 --> 00:39:04,884
I had my four-year-old niece,
my older brother's daughter.

541
00:39:04,967 --> 00:39:07,053
The bullet entered here.
I still have the scar.

542
00:39:07,136 --> 00:39:10,848
I picked her up, and her head
was twitching as the bullet went in here.

543
00:39:12,516 --> 00:39:13,809
I just laid there dazed,

544
00:39:13,893 --> 00:39:16,729
and the American soldiers
thought I was dead.

545
00:39:16,812 --> 00:39:18,189
There were no more stray bullets.

546
00:39:19,065 --> 00:39:21,108
Only after they passed me,

547
00:39:21,192 --> 00:39:26,238
I was able to crawl
under the body of a woman.

548
00:39:28,074 --> 00:39:28,949
Sorry.

549
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,169
I noticed a small child
that was walking out,

550
00:39:40,252 --> 00:39:42,546
like he was looking
for his mother in the group.

551
00:39:42,630 --> 00:39:45,341
And I was going to take
another photograph.

552
00:39:45,424 --> 00:39:47,885
A GI came right along beside me.

553
00:39:47,968 --> 00:39:50,805
As I was about ready to take the picture,
he shot this kid.

554
00:39:53,557 --> 00:39:54,809
I asked him why.

555
00:39:56,018 --> 00:39:59,397
He just looked at me, turned around,
walked away. Never said a word.

556
00:40:00,523 --> 00:40:01,607
Never said a word.

557
00:40:08,656 --> 00:40:10,658
You always have villains and heroes.

558
00:40:10,741 --> 00:40:13,828
The villain is Lt. Calley.
The hero is Hugh Thompson.

559
00:40:17,164 --> 00:40:19,375
{\an8}Thompson realized what was going on,

560
00:40:19,458 --> 00:40:21,127
{\an8}and he tried to put a stop to this.

561
00:40:21,752 --> 00:40:24,797
He put his little bubble chopper down
in between the American troops

562
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,925
and some people he was
going to try to rescue from a bunker.

563
00:40:28,509 --> 00:40:29,927
Thompson came up and he says,

564
00:40:30,010 --> 00:40:32,763
if he got fired on,
those people got fired on,

565
00:40:32,847 --> 00:40:35,850
the helicopter crew would open up
and start shooting.

566
00:40:36,475 --> 00:40:39,019
Americans against Americans.

567
00:40:41,313 --> 00:40:42,857
He flies back to his base,

568
00:40:42,940 --> 00:40:45,234
pounded on the table
and said, "Stop the killings."

569
00:40:45,317 --> 00:40:48,320
And the orders came down
from above to stop.

570
00:40:48,404 --> 00:40:50,322
That occurred about 10:00 or so.

571
00:40:50,406 --> 00:40:51,824
And that's how it ended.

572
00:40:53,367 --> 00:40:55,327
Uh, basically, within two hours,

573
00:40:55,411 --> 00:40:57,455
uh, 500 people were killed.

574
00:40:59,123 --> 00:41:01,083
{\an8}After the Americans withdrew,

575
00:41:01,167 --> 00:41:03,043
{\an8}relatives from another village came.

576
00:41:05,671 --> 00:41:07,965
When I came to,

577
00:41:08,048 --> 00:41:13,637
I saw the bodies
of my mother and siblings lifted out.

578
00:41:13,721 --> 00:41:16,265
We staged the parts
in a basket in the yard.

579
00:41:16,348 --> 00:41:18,601
We picked up flesh, arms, heads, legs.

580
00:41:21,395 --> 00:41:25,691
No one was left intact.

581
00:41:27,276 --> 00:41:31,238
I was very emotional
and at a loss for words.

582
00:41:32,907 --> 00:41:34,158
I could only cry.

583
00:41:41,665 --> 00:41:44,251
At whatever time of day it was,
the Americans left.

584
00:41:44,335 --> 00:41:45,503
When I met my brother,

585
00:41:45,586 --> 00:41:48,714
he told me he heard our father died
in the ditch by the tree.

586
00:41:48,797 --> 00:41:53,594
He was shot dead
where the gas station is right now.

587
00:41:56,180 --> 00:42:01,185
When I arrived,
I carried my niece back home.

588
00:42:01,894 --> 00:42:06,315
We buried her, and I notified others.

589
00:42:07,650 --> 00:42:13,280
There are things that I have forgotten,
but my mind will never forget that event.

590
00:42:13,864 --> 00:42:17,368
The utter destruction,

591
00:42:17,451 --> 00:42:21,288
annihilation, and death was horrific.

592
00:42:22,164 --> 00:42:24,124
In basic training and all your training,

593
00:42:24,208 --> 00:42:26,418
you're trained to kill,
you're trained to follow orders.

594
00:42:27,711 --> 00:42:31,340
But they don't teach you anything
about the people you're going to war with.

595
00:42:32,508 --> 00:42:35,469
{\an8}In fact, Westmoreland made a comment

596
00:42:35,553 --> 00:42:37,805
{\an8}that life doesn't mean anything
to these people.

597
00:42:37,888 --> 00:42:38,847
{\an8}Life's cheap to 'em.

598
00:42:39,431 --> 00:42:44,186
{\an8}Well, the Oriental doesn't put
the same high price on life

599
00:42:44,270 --> 00:42:45,771
{\an8}as does the Westerner.

600
00:42:47,022 --> 00:42:48,023
That's bullshit.

601
00:42:48,107 --> 00:42:49,108
They cherish life.

602
00:42:50,359 --> 00:42:54,822
To our knowledge,
no opposing force fought against them.

603
00:42:54,905 --> 00:42:58,867
There wasn't a single semblance
of resistance.

604
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,625
The Việt Cộng were not at Mỹ Lai 4.
They were at Mỹ Lai 1.

605
00:43:08,460 --> 00:43:13,674
To me, if you say
this village was Việt Cộng,

606
00:43:13,757 --> 00:43:15,050
they weren't here.

607
00:43:17,011 --> 00:43:21,849
If it was Việt Cộng, shoot the Việt Cộng.
Why would you shoot the villagers?

608
00:43:21,932 --> 00:43:25,227
And the little babies in their cribs,
why were they shot?

609
00:43:25,728 --> 00:43:27,896
The cows were not Việt Cộng,
but they were shot.

610
00:43:27,980 --> 00:43:30,441
The pigs were not Việt Cộng.
Why'd they shoot the pigs?

611
00:43:51,253 --> 00:43:53,922
Jay had to go back
and write a story, and the story was,

612
00:43:54,006 --> 00:43:57,092
"128 Việt Cộng killed,
three weapons captured."

613
00:43:57,176 --> 00:43:59,345
- That's the story?
- That's the story.

614
00:44:00,512 --> 00:44:03,182
{\an8}If Jay put anything else in
other than "a great success,"

615
00:44:03,265 --> 00:44:05,267
{\an8}I don't think
that would have been published.

616
00:44:05,768 --> 00:44:08,687
{\an8}But it was… It's all civilians.

617
00:44:09,730 --> 00:44:13,275
I had black and white Leica
to record and document the operation.

618
00:44:14,026 --> 00:44:15,819
All army photographs,

619
00:44:15,903 --> 00:44:18,906
they were sent to our sergeant,
he looked 'em over.

620
00:44:18,989 --> 00:44:21,408
Then they had to be sent
to, uh, an officer,

621
00:44:21,492 --> 00:44:22,701
and he looked 'em over.

622
00:44:24,370 --> 00:44:25,621
So I didn't want to record

623
00:44:25,704 --> 00:44:27,539
any of the killings
that happened there that day

624
00:44:27,623 --> 00:44:28,666
with the black and white.

625
00:44:29,458 --> 00:44:33,087
They seen that, they could have
destroyed that automatically.

626
00:44:34,254 --> 00:44:37,841
I was taking the killing photographs
with my own personal camera.

627
00:44:39,885 --> 00:44:41,595
Did you immediately understand

628
00:44:41,679 --> 00:44:44,014
the significance of the images
you were taking?

629
00:44:44,098 --> 00:44:45,683
I don't think at the time, no.

630
00:44:45,766 --> 00:44:49,019
I'm just trying to figure out, "Why is
this happening? Why is this happening?"

631
00:44:49,103 --> 00:44:51,897
"Could I have done anything?" I doubt it.

632
00:44:51,980 --> 00:44:53,899
I could have been fragged, you know?

633
00:44:53,982 --> 00:44:55,818
Where they, uh, don't like somebody,

634
00:44:55,901 --> 00:44:58,362
a grenade would go off
next to 'em and kill 'em.

635
00:44:58,445 --> 00:45:01,740
If I photographed you
shooting somebody, bang, I'm gone.

636
00:45:03,158 --> 00:45:05,369
Jay Roberts and I talked about this.

637
00:45:05,452 --> 00:45:06,704
If we get questioned,

638
00:45:06,787 --> 00:45:10,040
it's our responsibility
to turn the information over to 'em.

639
00:45:10,124 --> 00:45:12,292
But nobody came
to talk to us about anything.

640
00:45:13,711 --> 00:45:16,964
I knew I was about to rotate
out of there in a couple weeks.

641
00:45:17,673 --> 00:45:19,341
And so when I got back home,

642
00:45:19,425 --> 00:45:22,928
I got all the color chemicals,
then I processed it on-- on my own.

643
00:45:25,055 --> 00:45:28,976
Mỹ Lai was not
appropriately known or a year.

644
00:45:30,728 --> 00:45:33,105
The villagers' version
of the incident was given

645
00:45:33,188 --> 00:45:34,523
by survivors yesterday.

646
00:45:35,107 --> 00:45:37,401
{\an8}The Army's investigation
apparently was touched off

647
00:45:37,484 --> 00:45:39,820
{\an8}by letters written by a former soldier

648
00:45:39,903 --> 00:45:42,281
{\an8}who was not, however,
an eyewitness to the incident.

649
00:45:42,364 --> 00:45:46,368
{\an8}I first learned of it
from a fellow I had served with.

650
00:45:46,452 --> 00:45:48,579
{\an8}Uh, on my return from Vietnam,

651
00:45:48,662 --> 00:45:51,206
{\an8}I wrote letters to, uh, the President,

652
00:45:51,290 --> 00:45:54,042
{\an8}Secretary of State,
Secretary of Defense, Joint Chiefs.

653
00:45:57,546 --> 00:46:00,174
{\an8}Well, it got to the Army,
and the Army took it seriously,

654
00:46:00,257 --> 00:46:01,759
{\an8}and they investigated.

655
00:46:04,011 --> 00:46:06,180
{\an8}I think I probably was the first one

656
00:46:06,263 --> 00:46:08,974
{\an8}who saw
this criminal investigation report.

657
00:46:14,271 --> 00:46:15,606
It was just appalling.

658
00:46:17,733 --> 00:46:20,110
Sixteen were eventually charged.

659
00:46:21,111 --> 00:46:22,863
{\an8}Lt. Calley was charged

660
00:46:22,946 --> 00:46:25,032
with killing about 100 individuals.

661
00:46:25,699 --> 00:46:27,743
And as the rumors got out,

662
00:46:27,826 --> 00:46:32,873
{\an8}this young, scrappy journalist
by the name of Seymour Hersh

663
00:46:32,956 --> 00:46:34,666
{\an8}decides to investigate it.

664
00:46:36,210 --> 00:46:39,046
{\an8}So he tracks down Lt. Calley,

665
00:46:39,129 --> 00:46:42,090
{\an8}and he, uh, gets the story out of him

666
00:46:42,174 --> 00:46:43,801
and writes it up.

667
00:46:45,803 --> 00:46:49,264
And, uh, what really put
gasoline on the fire

668
00:46:49,348 --> 00:46:51,433
was, uh, Haeberle's photographs.

669
00:46:53,143 --> 00:46:55,312
A warrant officer came to talk to me

670
00:46:55,395 --> 00:46:58,023
'cause he knew there was
a photographer on the mission,

671
00:46:58,106 --> 00:47:00,901
and explained to me
what more happened there that day.

672
00:47:02,277 --> 00:47:03,237
Gang rapes?

673
00:47:04,571 --> 00:47:06,907
Raping a young girl as young as ten?

674
00:47:08,450 --> 00:47:10,327
It was disgusting.

675
00:47:10,410 --> 00:47:15,040
So I thought, "Well, it's time
to let the public know about this."

676
00:47:15,916 --> 00:47:18,961
I took 'em to a friend I had
at the, uh, Cleveland <i>Plain Dealer.</i>

677
00:47:19,044 --> 00:47:20,254
They published 'em.

678
00:47:23,549 --> 00:47:24,716
And all hell broke loose.

679
00:47:31,473 --> 00:47:33,642
With us, also,
the man who took the pictures,

680
00:47:33,725 --> 00:47:36,019
{\an8}former Army combat photographer
Ronald Haeberle.

681
00:47:36,103 --> 00:47:38,480
{\an8}Was there an order
to destroy the entire village?

682
00:47:39,022 --> 00:47:42,359
I did not hear this order,
just from general talk among the soldiers,

683
00:47:42,442 --> 00:47:44,736
"We had to do it. It had to be destroyed."

684
00:47:45,654 --> 00:47:49,741
Haeberle's photographs
are… repulsively graphic.

685
00:47:49,825 --> 00:47:56,331
And it, uh, churned America,
as it undoubtedly should have.

686
00:47:59,459 --> 00:48:01,336
Captain Ernest Medina was charged

687
00:48:01,420 --> 00:48:04,131
with the responsibility
for the entire thing,

688
00:48:05,090 --> 00:48:07,634
because he didn't intervene to stop it.

689
00:48:07,718 --> 00:48:09,761
I did not order a massacre,

690
00:48:10,596 --> 00:48:13,432
and I did not see a massacre take place.

691
00:48:14,016 --> 00:48:17,728
Captain Medina was acquitted,
and the only person convicted was Calley.

692
00:48:18,312 --> 00:48:20,731
And Calley, he was sentenced to life.

693
00:48:20,814 --> 00:48:22,983
But it was reduced down and down and down.

694
00:48:23,901 --> 00:48:26,320
He spent some time in the brig, not much.

695
00:48:26,820 --> 00:48:28,780
But mainly it was house arrest.

696
00:48:29,990 --> 00:48:33,952
The facts are
only about 10% of the unit actually shot.

697
00:48:34,578 --> 00:48:36,788
90% didn't because there was no other--

698
00:48:36,872 --> 00:48:39,333
there was no reason to shoot,
so they didn't.

699
00:48:39,416 --> 00:48:44,254
{\an8}Calley was far, far from representative
of the larger American experience.

700
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,301
That said, I think what is common

701
00:48:49,384 --> 00:48:52,137
is the damage
that war does to participants

702
00:48:52,679 --> 00:48:59,394
and the dehumanization that is
almost a necessary component of war,

703
00:48:59,478 --> 00:49:01,647
that pushes away empathy

704
00:49:02,147 --> 00:49:04,816
and pulls in aggressive violence

705
00:49:05,317 --> 00:49:08,695
that is dehumanizing
for all who are involved.

706
00:49:13,283 --> 00:49:17,829
{\an8}Actually, we were surprised
that anybody cared,

707
00:49:17,913 --> 00:49:19,331
'cause it was normal.

708
00:49:20,082 --> 00:49:23,001
The stuff that was going on,
"Why are they picking Mỹ Lai?"

709
00:49:24,086 --> 00:49:26,713
You know, go in a village
and shoot what moves,

710
00:49:27,464 --> 00:49:29,174
and there's no consequence.

711
00:49:30,926 --> 00:49:34,054
Mass executions, that was abnormal.

712
00:49:34,721 --> 00:49:38,058
But I saw what were
just downright war crimes

713
00:49:38,141 --> 00:49:39,810
quite often when I was in the infantry.

714
00:49:45,816 --> 00:49:49,277
{\an8}I thought that Lt. Calley was a scapegoat.

715
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,490
{\an8}I thought basically he was doing
what he was supposed to be doing.

716
00:49:53,573 --> 00:49:55,200
He was doing what we all did.

717
00:49:56,493 --> 00:50:01,039
{\an8}The only difference between what
Lt. Calley did and what I did is,

718
00:50:01,707 --> 00:50:04,084
me, I'd walk into a village,
and as we're walking,

719
00:50:04,167 --> 00:50:06,294
I'm shooting whoever I see to shoot.

720
00:50:07,087 --> 00:50:09,506
What he did
is they gathered all the people,

721
00:50:09,589 --> 00:50:12,843
they lined them up next to a ditch,
and then they shot them down.

722
00:50:16,179 --> 00:50:18,765
Now, in both instances,
the people are dead.

723
00:50:23,270 --> 00:50:27,065
My feeling is we're all guilty, all of us.

724
00:50:27,149 --> 00:50:28,525
I'm guilty of a cover-up.

725
00:50:28,608 --> 00:50:31,820
Other people have more serious, uh, crimes
against them than that,

726
00:50:31,903 --> 00:50:35,657
but the whole group,
and I'll take it right up to the top,

727
00:50:36,908 --> 00:50:37,868
we're all guilty.

728
00:50:37,951 --> 00:50:39,953
We'll include Westmoreland on that too.

729
00:50:43,373 --> 00:50:46,752
{\an8}America's hero of Vietnam,
General William Westmoreland,

730
00:50:46,835 --> 00:50:49,838
{\an8}was told that he's to return
to a desk job in Washington,

731
00:50:49,921 --> 00:50:52,299
{\an8}and the world speculated
that this was the first move

732
00:50:52,382 --> 00:50:56,511
{\an8}in a new assessment of our role
in a savage and unpopular war.

733
00:50:57,596 --> 00:50:59,598
After the Tết Offensive,

734
00:50:59,681 --> 00:51:01,850
Westmoreland is removed.

735
00:51:01,933 --> 00:51:06,313
He gets kicked upstairs
to become the Army Chief of Staff,

736
00:51:06,396 --> 00:51:10,317
in other words,
a paper-pushing job in Washington, DC.

737
00:51:13,028 --> 00:51:15,572
{\an8}He's replaced by Creighton Abrams.

738
00:51:17,115 --> 00:51:20,744
And at this point,
Johnson himself is under siege.

739
00:51:24,664 --> 00:51:27,626
<i>I'm afraid the people</i>
<i>are going to interpret this</i>

740
00:51:27,709 --> 00:51:29,961
<i>as representing a change in strategy</i>

741
00:51:30,045 --> 00:51:32,255
<i>and tactics and everything else…</i>

742
00:51:32,339 --> 00:51:37,928
<i>I've got to find some alternatives to turn</i>
<i>some of this thing around a little bit.</i>

743
00:51:38,011 --> 00:51:41,306
<i>If we don't, uh,</i>
<i>we're going to be in trouble,</i>

744
00:51:41,389 --> 00:51:44,309
<i>and Vietnam is the only thing,</i>
<i>and it's just murdered me.</i>

745
00:51:46,186 --> 00:51:47,604
{\an8}The country begins to wonder,

746
00:51:47,687 --> 00:51:50,440
{\an8}"Wait a second,
have you sold us a false bill of goods?"

747
00:51:52,317 --> 00:51:55,362
People begin to doubt
Johnson's credibility

748
00:51:55,445 --> 00:52:01,284
at a time when Johnson is heading
into a presidential election campaign.

749
00:52:02,744 --> 00:52:06,998
Already the anti-war forces
have mobilized around a candidate,

750
00:52:07,582 --> 00:52:10,293
{\an8}Senator Eugene McCarthy from Minnesota.

751
00:52:12,546 --> 00:52:14,172
But it's a real black eye for Johnson,

752
00:52:14,256 --> 00:52:16,466
the sitting President
of the United States,

753
00:52:16,550 --> 00:52:20,679
who's being challenged for the nomination
by a member of his own party.

754
00:52:22,264 --> 00:52:25,851
And then Bobby Kennedy
announces his candidacy.

755
00:52:28,603 --> 00:52:31,148
{\an8}I am announcing today my candidacy

756
00:52:32,065 --> 00:52:34,359
for the presidency of the United States.

757
00:52:35,652 --> 00:52:38,989
I do not run for the presidency
merely to oppose any man,

758
00:52:40,282 --> 00:52:41,700
but to propose new policies.

759
00:52:42,534 --> 00:52:45,537
So now Johnson has
to confront not only McCarthy,

760
00:52:45,620 --> 00:52:47,205
but the entire Kennedy mystique.

761
00:52:48,373 --> 00:52:50,500
{\an8}When I worked at the White House,

762
00:52:50,584 --> 00:52:52,961
{\an8}I was so grateful to President Johnson

763
00:52:53,044 --> 00:52:56,339
{\an8}for-- for responding to the needs
of Mexican-Americans

764
00:52:56,423 --> 00:52:58,008
and other people of color.

765
00:52:59,384 --> 00:53:01,595
{\an8}The Voting Rights Act,
the Civil Rights Act,

766
00:53:01,678 --> 00:53:04,681
{\an8}the housing assistance,
you know, all of that.

767
00:53:05,515 --> 00:53:09,769
But when he started pursuing
the war in Vietnam,

768
00:53:09,853 --> 00:53:13,315
and more and more
of our young people were being killed,

769
00:53:13,940 --> 00:53:16,234
I was getting very concerned.

770
00:53:19,154 --> 00:53:21,156
So I had a-- a conflict,

771
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,201
which is probably why
it wasn't so difficult for me

772
00:53:24,284 --> 00:53:26,578
to quit my job and go work for Bobby.

773
00:53:30,790 --> 00:53:35,754
Bobby Kennedy became
what all of us were hoping for in America.

774
00:53:36,254 --> 00:53:39,257
He was youthful. He was fun.

775
00:53:41,927 --> 00:53:44,679
And he didn't believe
that we should be in Vietnam.

776
00:53:44,763 --> 00:53:47,140
And that was-- that was it for us.

777
00:53:47,224 --> 00:53:51,269
And we wanted him
to succeed in his candidacy.

778
00:53:51,811 --> 00:53:52,979
I have traveled,

779
00:53:53,063 --> 00:53:55,565
and I have listened
to the young people of our nation

780
00:53:56,066 --> 00:54:00,362
and felt their anger about the war
that they are sent to fight

781
00:54:01,154 --> 00:54:04,407
and the-- about the world
that they are about to inherit.

782
00:54:07,202 --> 00:54:11,081
Bobby Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson,
they did not like each other.

783
00:54:12,582 --> 00:54:14,125
It was really emotional.

784
00:54:17,212 --> 00:54:19,339
{\an8}<i>He's mean, bitter,</i>

785
00:54:20,090 --> 00:54:23,468
{\an8}<i>a vicious… animal, in many ways.</i>

786
00:54:24,219 --> 00:54:27,222
{\an8}<i>He's got this other side of him</i>
<i>in his relationship with human beings,</i>

787
00:54:27,305 --> 00:54:29,975
{\an8}<i>which make it very difficult</i>
<i>unless you want to kiss his behind</i>

788
00:54:30,058 --> 00:54:31,434
{\an8}<i>all the time.</i>

789
00:54:33,228 --> 00:54:35,647
<i>All of it makes Bobby look</i>
<i>like a great hero</i>

790
00:54:35,730 --> 00:54:37,399
<i>and makes me look like a son of a bitch,</i>

791
00:54:37,482 --> 00:54:40,902
<i>and 95% of it is completely fabricated.</i>

792
00:54:41,778 --> 00:54:45,407
{\an8}So for Johnson, the only thing
worse than not being re-elected

793
00:54:45,490 --> 00:54:50,745
{\an8}was actually running against Bobby Kennedy
and losing the Democratic nomination.

794
00:54:51,454 --> 00:54:54,374
Johnson was just being
hammered by the public

795
00:54:54,457 --> 00:54:56,334
because of the way
he was handling the war,

796
00:54:56,418 --> 00:54:59,170
but also because of the way
that he was handling everything else

797
00:54:59,254 --> 00:55:01,006
that was going on in the country.

798
00:55:01,756 --> 00:55:04,759
Johnson was
an incredibly smart politician.

799
00:55:05,844 --> 00:55:08,513
And he knew there was danger
of him losing the primary.

800
00:55:12,475 --> 00:55:15,603
And then Johnson announced
that he was going to give a speech.

801
00:55:16,479 --> 00:55:20,483
{\an8}<i>Now we switch to Washington</i>
<i>and the President of the United States.</i>

802
00:55:22,777 --> 00:55:26,031
With America's sons in the field far away…

803
00:55:28,783 --> 00:55:32,620
With America's future under challenge
right here at home…

804
00:55:34,289 --> 00:55:40,086
With our hopes and the world's hopes
for peace in the balance every day,

805
00:55:41,254 --> 00:55:46,926
I do not believe that I should devote
an hour or a day of my time

806
00:55:48,053 --> 00:55:50,764
to any personal partisan causes

807
00:55:51,473 --> 00:55:53,099
or to any duties

808
00:55:53,183 --> 00:55:59,814
other… than the awesome duties
of this office,

809
00:55:59,898 --> 00:56:02,984
the presidency of your country.

810
00:56:03,693 --> 00:56:04,736
Accordingly,

811
00:56:06,738 --> 00:56:08,073
I shall not seek

812
00:56:10,033 --> 00:56:11,618
and I will not accept

813
00:56:12,827 --> 00:56:16,498
the nomination of my party
for another term as your president.

814
00:56:19,876 --> 00:56:23,380
All across the country,
in America's living rooms,

815
00:56:24,339 --> 00:56:26,633
{\an8}people look at each other,
husbands and wives and others,

816
00:56:26,716 --> 00:56:29,511
{\an8}look at each other and say, "Did he
just say what I think he just said?"

817
00:56:29,594 --> 00:56:32,138
Wow.Excuse me. Wow.

818
00:56:33,223 --> 00:56:34,933
How do you feel as you're watching this

819
00:56:35,016 --> 00:56:36,684
when President Johnson said he was done?

820
00:56:36,768 --> 00:56:39,104
I think it's one
of the great dramatic moments

821
00:56:39,187 --> 00:56:40,522
in American political life.

822
00:56:40,605 --> 00:56:43,525
I don't agree with Mr. Johnson
on so many things,

823
00:56:43,608 --> 00:56:47,278
but tonight I think he realized, himself,

824
00:56:47,362 --> 00:56:49,781
that this country is deeply divided.

825
00:56:49,864 --> 00:56:51,491
He took the only course he could.

826
00:56:52,450 --> 00:56:54,411
{\an8}He had said to Lady Bird,

827
00:56:54,494 --> 00:56:58,123
{\an8}"I'm going to be crucified on Vietnam,
whichever way I go."

828
00:56:59,124 --> 00:57:00,917
"Vietnam will be the end of me."

829
00:57:02,168 --> 00:57:04,045
This, in a way, showed that he was right.

830
00:57:11,469 --> 00:57:15,473
1968 is a year of-- of tremendous turmoil,

831
00:57:15,557 --> 00:57:17,684
really from the beginning to the end,

832
00:57:17,767 --> 00:57:20,145
but especially in the middle months,

833
00:57:20,228 --> 00:57:21,604
and there are people who wonder

834
00:57:21,688 --> 00:57:24,816
if the, sort of, edifice
can be kept intact.

835
00:57:32,866 --> 00:57:35,869
{\an8}<i>This is Gary Shepard</i>
<i>in New York with a late bulletin.</i>

836
00:57:35,952 --> 00:57:38,455
{\an8}<i>Civil rights leader</i>
<i>Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.</i>

837
00:57:38,538 --> 00:57:39,539
<i>was shot in the head</i>

838
00:57:39,622 --> 00:57:43,168
<i>and is now in critical condition</i>
<i>in a Memphis, Tennessee hospital.</i>

839
00:57:43,251 --> 00:57:46,880
<i>The latest reports from Memphis say</i>
<i>Dr. King was hit by gunfire</i>

840
00:57:46,963 --> 00:57:49,549
<i>while standing on the balcony</i>
<i>of his hotel room</i>

841
00:57:49,632 --> 00:57:52,469
<i>just before seven o'clock</i>
<i>Eastern Standard Time.</i>

842
00:57:54,012 --> 00:57:56,556
I have some very sad news for all of you,

843
00:57:57,265 --> 00:58:01,394
and I think, uh, sad news
for all of our fellow citizens,

844
00:58:02,228 --> 00:58:05,273
and people who love peace
all over the world,

845
00:58:06,107 --> 00:58:09,944
and that is that Martin Luther King
was shot and was killed

846
00:58:10,028 --> 00:58:11,571
tonight in Memphis, Tennessee.

847
00:58:13,907 --> 00:58:17,285
Can you tell me what effect
Martin Luther King's death has had on you?

848
00:58:18,077 --> 00:58:19,871
Well, it shook me up pretty good.

849
00:58:19,954 --> 00:58:22,457
- You ashamed it happened in America?
- No, uh…

850
00:58:24,250 --> 00:58:26,419
It shouldn't have
never happened anywheres.

851
00:58:27,170 --> 00:58:29,714
I've, uh, lived overseas, and, uh…

852
00:58:31,674 --> 00:58:34,636
people aren't-- aren't real proud
of we Americans overseas,

853
00:58:34,719 --> 00:58:36,513
and to have something like this happen

854
00:58:36,596 --> 00:58:39,432
doesn't make us look any better
in the eyes of the other people.

855
00:58:40,225 --> 00:58:43,228
{\an8}I hate to hear about, uh, everybody
getting killed back in the world

856
00:58:43,311 --> 00:58:45,813
{\an8}because it's just like fighting
in two worlds.

857
00:58:45,897 --> 00:58:49,359
{\an8}We fight one war over here,
we get back, we have to fight another one.

858
00:58:50,777 --> 00:58:52,987
{\an8}Now, I'll never forget,
we had been on a mission,

859
00:58:53,071 --> 00:58:55,073
{\an8}and we came back to the base.

860
00:58:56,533 --> 00:59:01,329
{\an8}He had already been assassinated
f-four or five days when I got back.

861
00:59:02,997 --> 00:59:04,916
And when I heard about it,

862
00:59:04,999 --> 00:59:08,211
it was like my heart, like, just sunk.

863
00:59:08,962 --> 00:59:15,260
He had been speaking
for us, uh, young, Black soldiers,

864
00:59:15,343 --> 00:59:17,679
speaking on our behalf.

865
00:59:18,972 --> 00:59:25,228
He had been killed not on the battlefield
in the jungles of Vietnam,

866
00:59:25,937 --> 00:59:28,273
but on-- on the streets of America.

867
00:59:31,734 --> 00:59:34,696
so we wasn't involved
in the Civil Rights Movement,

868
00:59:34,779 --> 00:59:37,490
and we wound up
in the military being drafted.

869
00:59:38,575 --> 00:59:40,952
{\an8}We didn't feel like
there was any justice at all

870
00:59:41,035 --> 00:59:45,081
{\an8}killing this man
that was a-- a nonviolent advocate

871
00:59:45,164 --> 00:59:48,209
{\an8}for basic civil rights.

872
00:59:50,962 --> 00:59:52,338
After Dr. King's death,

873
00:59:52,422 --> 00:59:56,467
that's when I think this whole thing
about communism went out of the window.

874
00:59:57,427 --> 01:00:01,806
There's no communist worse
than what's happening back in our--

875
01:00:01,889 --> 01:00:03,099
in-- in our country.

876
01:00:17,155 --> 01:00:18,740
Grant, O lover of peace,

877
01:00:19,449 --> 01:00:23,703
that we will effectively negotiate
for a peaceful settlement in Vietnam.

878
01:00:25,038 --> 01:00:28,708
To end the brutal slayings
and criminal atrocities committed

879
01:00:28,791 --> 01:00:30,918
in the name of democracy.

880
01:00:35,006 --> 01:00:38,885
What we need in the United States
is not violence and lawlessness,

881
01:00:40,053 --> 01:00:44,432
but is love and wisdom
and compassion toward one another,

882
01:00:44,515 --> 01:00:49,395
and a feeling of justice toward those
who still suffer within our country,

883
01:00:49,979 --> 01:00:52,940
whether they be white
or whether they be Black.

884
01:01:04,702 --> 01:01:07,121
<i>…is Robert Kennedy </i>

885
01:01:12,001 --> 01:01:15,380
After Lyndon Johnson
pulled out of the race,

886
01:01:15,463 --> 01:01:17,382
it was a-- a close campaign.

887
01:01:20,551 --> 01:01:25,098
Bobby could carry that primary,
but he had to win California.

888
01:01:25,973 --> 01:01:28,851
{\an8}That night, I was at the Ambassador Hotel.

889
01:01:28,935 --> 01:01:29,852
{\an8}We want Bobby!

890
01:01:29,936 --> 01:01:32,021
{\an8}But when he was declared the winner,

891
01:01:32,105 --> 01:01:34,190
you know, we knew we were
going to go all the way.

892
01:01:34,273 --> 01:01:36,734
We knew that he was
going to be our president.

893
01:01:37,777 --> 01:01:39,612
What I think is quite clear

894
01:01:40,488 --> 01:01:43,366
is that we can work together
in the last analysis.

895
01:01:43,449 --> 01:01:45,910
We are a great country,
an unselfish country,

896
01:01:45,993 --> 01:01:47,453
and a compassionate country,

897
01:01:47,537 --> 01:01:50,039
and I intend to make that
my basis for running

898
01:01:50,123 --> 01:01:51,833
over the period of the next few months.

899
01:01:54,961 --> 01:01:56,087
My thanks to all of you.

900
01:01:56,170 --> 01:01:58,381
And now it's on to Chicago,
and let's win there.

901
01:01:58,464 --> 01:01:59,757
Thank you very much.

902
01:01:59,841 --> 01:02:02,218
<i>Kennedy left the platform quickly.</i>

903
01:02:02,301 --> 01:02:06,264
<i>He went through a side door</i>
<i>into a pantry next to the hotel kitchen.</i>

904
01:02:07,140 --> 01:02:11,394
As soon as he finished his remarks,
I made my way to the second ballroom.

905
01:02:13,104 --> 01:02:16,107
By the time I got downstairs,
it had happened.

906
01:02:16,190 --> 01:02:19,026
- No!
- A doctor! A doctor!

907
01:02:29,537 --> 01:02:31,164
I lost my hero.

908
01:02:32,248 --> 01:02:33,875
My hero had been killed.

909
01:02:38,379 --> 01:02:40,882
I can't talk about Bobby Kennedy.

910
01:02:46,971 --> 01:02:49,056
I'll probably need a Kleenex, but…

911
01:02:51,934 --> 01:02:54,812
- What happened? Do you know?
- Somebody said he's been shot.

912
01:02:55,313 --> 01:02:58,566
The reality of what that war represented

913
01:02:58,649 --> 01:03:03,404
and what conversations about the war
resulted in began to hit us.

914
01:03:04,906 --> 01:03:07,992
{\an8}Imagine being 18 years old, as I was,

915
01:03:08,659 --> 01:03:10,745
and having witnessed, at the age of 13,

916
01:03:10,828 --> 01:03:13,581
the assassination
of President John F. Kennedy.

917
01:03:15,500 --> 01:03:19,253
Not long after,
the assassination of Martin Luther King,

918
01:03:20,296 --> 01:03:21,506
and then Bobby Kennedy.

919
01:03:30,348 --> 01:03:32,433
It was a tough pill to swallow

920
01:03:32,517 --> 01:03:37,605
that anybody who was effective
at speaking out against war,

921
01:03:37,688 --> 01:03:40,650
anyone who was effective
at change, was killed.

922
01:03:57,583 --> 01:04:01,170
Robert Kennedy had fueled
the hopes of a great many people,

923
01:04:01,879 --> 01:04:03,130
maybe especially young people.

924
01:04:03,214 --> 01:04:06,384
And there are deep divisions
in the Democratic Party,

925
01:04:06,467 --> 01:04:09,136
and these are
for everybody to see in Chicago.

926
01:04:10,012 --> 01:04:12,682
I was convinced to go to Chicago.

927
01:04:12,765 --> 01:04:16,060
You know, I didn't have a job
after Bobby's death.

928
01:04:17,144 --> 01:04:19,230
You know, it was like a powder keg.

929
01:04:19,313 --> 01:04:20,523
It really was.

930
01:04:22,650 --> 01:04:26,112
You had two almost literal battlefields.

931
01:04:26,946 --> 01:04:28,948
{\an8}One was the convention center itself,

932
01:04:29,031 --> 01:04:33,077
where they were trying
to control reporters, including myself.

933
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:34,996
- Take your hands off me.
- <i>Dan Rather?</i>

934
01:04:35,079 --> 01:04:37,623
Unless you intend to arrest me,
don't, uh-- don't push me, please.

935
01:04:38,165 --> 01:04:41,711
I know, but don't push me. Take your hands
off me unless you plan to arrest me.

936
01:04:41,794 --> 01:04:43,546
Wait a minute. Wait a minute!

937
01:04:45,339 --> 01:04:46,716
Walter, as you can see…

938
01:04:48,551 --> 01:04:50,553
<i>I don't know what's going on, but this…</i>

939
01:04:50,636 --> 01:04:53,890
<i>These are security people,</i>
<i>apparently, around Dan.</i>

940
01:04:53,973 --> 01:04:56,475
- We tried to talk to the man.
<i>- He's obviously getting roughed up.</i>

941
01:04:56,559 --> 01:04:58,394
We got bodily pushed out of the way.

942
01:04:58,477 --> 01:05:01,272
This is the kind of thing
that's been going on outside the hall.

943
01:05:01,355 --> 01:05:03,691
This is the first time
we've had it happen inside the hall.

944
01:05:07,069 --> 01:05:09,196
On the outside of the convention hall,

945
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,782
there was a virtual civil war going on

946
01:05:11,866 --> 01:05:15,703
between the Chicago police
and the protesters who had come,

947
01:05:15,786 --> 01:05:18,122
and the police responded brutally.

948
01:05:18,915 --> 01:05:21,167
<i>At nightfall, hundreds of helmeted police</i>

949
01:05:21,250 --> 01:05:22,543
<i>closed in on Lincoln Park</i>

950
01:05:22,627 --> 01:05:24,837
<i>as the demonstrators surged</i>
<i>through the streets,</i>

951
01:05:24,921 --> 01:05:26,547
<i>protesting the park curfew.</i>

952
01:05:28,132 --> 01:05:31,928
<i>Police used their nightsticks,</i>
<i>tear gas, and chemical mace freely.</i>

953
01:05:32,970 --> 01:05:35,806
One night, I joined in on this big march.

954
01:05:35,890 --> 01:05:37,516
We were marching to headquarters,

955
01:05:38,434 --> 01:05:43,147
and then later I saw the police rushing
the crowd and swinging their batons.

956
01:05:43,773 --> 01:05:46,901
There had been no warning,
and I started to cry

957
01:05:46,984 --> 01:05:50,237
'cause I thought,
"Oh, my God, I was just in that crowd."

958
01:05:52,198 --> 01:05:53,824
The whole world is watching!

959
01:05:53,908 --> 01:05:55,701
The whole world is watching!

960
01:05:57,703 --> 01:06:01,123
The saying at the time was,
"The whole world is watching,"

961
01:06:01,207 --> 01:06:03,626
and indeed, the whole world was watching.

962
01:06:05,044 --> 01:06:09,382
We saw the brutality
in graphic images on television

963
01:06:09,465 --> 01:06:12,843
of the Chicago police
beating anti-war protesters.

964
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:18,182
It was the moment
that we knew this was dangerous work,

965
01:06:18,265 --> 01:06:25,189
that the silent, peaceful anti-war marches
and protests were ineffective.

966
01:06:26,190 --> 01:06:29,902
But we also saw
that… more militant actions

967
01:06:29,986 --> 01:06:32,405
and the growing strength
of the movement in numbers

968
01:06:32,488 --> 01:06:35,950
was going to be met
with excessive police force.

969
01:06:38,369 --> 01:06:42,415
That made me even more committed
to opposing the Vietnam War.

970
01:06:44,125 --> 01:06:48,170
But it looks as if the forces
that wish to continue that war

971
01:06:48,254 --> 01:06:51,048
are going to win the election
and be put in power.

972
01:06:51,841 --> 01:06:54,010
I didn't understand at the time

973
01:06:54,093 --> 01:06:56,762
that there would be
war policies far more dangerous

974
01:06:56,846 --> 01:06:59,432
than the policies
we were seeing out of Lyndon Johnson.

975
01:06:59,932 --> 01:07:02,435
<i>I say the time has come</i>
<i>for the American people</i>

976
01:07:02,518 --> 01:07:04,437
<i>to turn to new leadership,</i>

977
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:07,398
<i>not tied to the policies</i>
<i>and mistakes of the past.</i>

978
01:07:07,481 --> 01:07:12,361
<i>I pledge to you, we shall have</i>
<i>an honorable end to the war in Vietnam.</i>

979
01:07:15,364 --> 01:07:18,951
{\an8}Nixon promised
the American voters one thing,

980
01:07:19,035 --> 01:07:20,953
{\an8}that he was putting peace first.

981
01:07:21,537 --> 01:07:22,872
{\an8}But behind the scene,

982
01:07:22,955 --> 01:07:27,418
{\an8}he was throwing a monkey wrench
into the prospects of peace

983
01:07:27,501 --> 01:07:30,046
{\an8}in order to win the 1968 election.

984
01:07:33,340 --> 01:07:37,303
It's important for us all to learn
these terrible lessons of history

985
01:07:37,386 --> 01:07:41,766
to protect ourselves
from the most unscrupulous politicians.

986
01:07:41,849 --> 01:07:43,100
{\an8}Richard M. Nixon.

987
01:07:43,893 --> 01:07:46,854
The ones who would put their careers

988
01:07:46,937 --> 01:07:49,690
over the lives of American soldiers.

989
01:07:54,153 --> 01:07:57,907
America's in trouble today
not because her people have failed,

990
01:07:57,990 --> 01:07:59,700
but because her leaders have failed.

991
01:07:59,784 --> 01:08:04,455
And what America needs are leaders
to match the greatness of her people.

992
01:08:08,626 --> 01:08:11,879
Tonight, I, again, proudly accept

993
01:08:11,962 --> 01:08:14,924
that nomination
for President of the United States.

