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She was my homeboy's old lady.

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She'd been gone so long
I wondered what happened to her.

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I didn't know
because I didn't keep tabs on her.

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We started talking, she started crying,
she goes, "I know who killed her."

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And then I was just like,
"Well, what do you mean?"

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She said she could hear and see,
but couldn't move.

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She's, like, paralyzed.

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-You went to prison in '80 or was it--
-I think it was '80.

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Before prison, where were you living?

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Hmm.

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I believe
I was living in Wilmington at my…

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my stepmom's house with my dad.

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I didn't know
too many people from Wilmington.

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I mean…

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I would cruise around there, but…

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I didn't really know anybody over there.

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-Did you ever go partying at the beach?
-No.

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-Never used to go out there?
-No.

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And you've never been to Malaga Cove,
Palos Verdes Estates?

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Mm-mm.

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Tell me about that case
when you got arrested.

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Took her to Redondo.

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-And, you know, we had sex.
-Mm-hmm.

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Yeah, she refused, but then…

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after that she gave in, and…

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-And they charged you with rape.
-Yeah.

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You got off because she didn't show up.

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-Mm-hmm.
-Okay.

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Does Teresa ring a bell to you?

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-No.
-No? Nothing at all?

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Let me show you some pictures.

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Okay.

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Do you know that girl right there
or remember her at all?

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-No.
-No?

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Nmm-nmm.

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This lady was found dead on the beach.

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You sure she's nobody
that looks familiar to you?

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Teresa Broudreaux.

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-No.
-And this is 1980, March of 1980.

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No, not at all.

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No. Nmm-nmm.

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-No?
-Nmm-nmm.

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Would there be any reason

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for your DNA to be at the scene?

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Not that…

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No, there shouldn't be.

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-Shouldn't be?
-Yeah.

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We're here.

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We know you can help us.

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Because your DNA was at the scene.

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I don't know… I can't see how.

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I don't even know that girl.

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So, 100%, you're not gonna
have any issues with your DNA there?

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-No.
-And so then…

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you'd be willing to give us
a sample of your oral swabs?

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Okay.

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And so I appreciate that.

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When I met the guy,
I wasn't hitchhiking. I was just walking.

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He pulled up in his car
and asked me if I wanted a ride.

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And I said yeah.

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How sure are you
that this man forced you… raped you?

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100%.

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I stopped resisting
because he started threatening to kill me.

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Hi, I wanted to talk…
I need to talk to Robert, please.

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- Who are you?
-My name is Ralph.

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He knows who I am.

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And this is John.

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Come on in.

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Thank you.

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You look like
you're gonna arrest him.

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- God, no.
- Okay.

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No, we're gonna leave here.
I just was hoping for ten minutes.

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And maybe just a little bit of privacy
if that's okay with you.

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Why? He ain't got nothing to hide from me.

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I don't have nothing to hide.

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We tell each other everything.

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We wanted to give him
the respect of being able to talk to him

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without other people here
if that's what he wanted.

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-But if this is how--
-No, she can be here.

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- Hear me out.
-I had nothing to do with that case.

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Robert, just hear me out.

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And I'm gonna stay with that story.
I do not know her.

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I've never seen her. I never met her.

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- You said you never met this girl.
-No!

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So what do you think of yours…

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What kind of DNA do you think we found?

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Probably my sperm.

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Yeah. So can you tell me
how that could possibly be, Robert?

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It shouldn't be,
because I don't even know her.

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I never met her. I never seen her.

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- Robert--
-I had nothing to do with that.

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We've got your semen
on the pubic hair of this dead woman.

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This dead woman
was picked up near the same place

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where, within a year of that time,
you picked up Lori ****.

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This woman had her head bashed.

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Would you agree
that if your semen is inside of her,

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that means that you must have known her

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and had sex with her

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that night at the beach?

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Yeah, that would be logical.

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If you were sitting
where I was sitting right now,

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would you believe what you're saying?

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-You tell me.
- I'd believe him.

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Ma'am, I'm not asking you.

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If you were sitting where I'm sitting,
would you believe that story? You tell me.

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No, I wouldn't believe that story.

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I don't think 12 jurors
are gonna believe it either.

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I'll be goddamned if I'm gonna go
back to prison for something I didn't do.

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Okay, so, listen.

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Your DNA--

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I know what you're saying.
My DNA is on her, but I don't know how.

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Are we done?
This is starting to piss me off.

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I wanna get a lawyer.
We're gonna get a lawyer.

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- Wait. Listen.
-Are we finished?

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-We're finished. We're done.
- Robert-- No, listen to me.

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There's nothing more to say.

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If you tell me
that you want us to leave, we'll leave.

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Yeah.

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Ma'am, I'm talking to him.

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-I want you to leave.
- Okay.

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All right. That's your option.

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-Ronnie.
-Thank you.
r option.

