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Wait, Christine, wait.
I'm gonna get you from the front too.

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-Okay.
-I got it from the back.

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All right, this looks good.

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In 2016,

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my husband and I moved to Short Creek
on the Utah-Arizona border.

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It's the fundamentalist
Mormon version of Mecca.

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-You have a call from…
-Warren Jeffs.

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You may start the conversation now.

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At the time, their prophet,
Warren Jeffs, was in prison.

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Guilty of two counts of felony
sexual assault against two girls.

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We heard how dangerous this town was.

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We heard it was the most reclusive,
isolated town in America.

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Warren Jeffs may be in prison,

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but he's apparently
still very much in charge.

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Jeffs led the polygamous sect,

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the Fundamentalist Church
of Latter-day Saints.

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But I felt drawn to come here
to help these people.

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And they said,
"We don't need outsider help."

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You're trespassing.

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Well, guess what? Yes, they did.

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Yes, they fucking did.

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People who think this story came to an end
with Warren going to prison are wrong.

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They've left a very vulnerable population
wide open to predators.

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We didn't know who we could trust.

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Sam Bateman saw himself
being an heir apparent to Warren Jeffs.

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That tells you all you need to know.

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Predators don't come in
dressed with their horns and their cape.

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They come in
dressed in their suit and tie.

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The only reason I'm rich

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is Heavenly Father
blessed me with these girls.

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Everybody wants to jump in, huh?

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He said,

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"Are you having temptations
to report Samuel to the law?"

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What?

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Tolga, we have to…
I have to turn this tape in.

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We're the only ones in,
so we gotta get in more.

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Yeah, face the curtain.
Nice. Stay that way a little bit.

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I wasn't there to betray them.

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I don't know if it's traitors or what.

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I was there to save them.

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This is the police!
I want your hands above your head!

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Are you a prophet?

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I would be a liar if I said I wasn't.

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Go ahead.

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Here we go.

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There she goes.

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There we go.

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We're basically moving to the Crick.

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I mean, it is absolutely crazy out here.

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Especially for me. I'm a record producer.
What the hell am I doing out here?

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There we are. We're moving in.

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Colorado City.

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Gloves off.

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Okay, it's makeshift, okay?

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We gave up the life of comfort.

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For the life among the polygamists.

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Go this way.

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I'm gonna walk this way.

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-Tolga, you go this way.
-I'm gonna do ten different shots.

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Stop.

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When we got here,

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we felt like
we were in the Wild, Wild West.

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There were no outsiders here. I mean,
there was maybe one other outside family.

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That I knew of.

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Hey, buddy. Hey, buddy.

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My husband Tolga is
a music video producer and a photographer.

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And so of course, when we moved
to this town, he wanted to document it.

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Hold on.

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So…

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This is where the FLDS community
gets their food supplies.

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It's not just FLDS.
A lot of people come here.

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Well, that's true. Right. A lot of people
come here. Including… myself.

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When Christine came along,

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everybody was leery of her

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because nobody knew what she was about.

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We always had people looking at us
like we were a freak show.

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So there was a lot of speculation
among our people

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that they were just here to do something
for TV or write a book or something.

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We're documenting it all.

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They were a very eccentric couple,
and it was very odd.

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He was from Turkey,

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and he had long hair
with a little ponytail,

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and she was like a little blonde…

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…like, Hollywood girl.

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She wore a lot of vintage clothing,

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which I thought was darling.

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But I didn't know for sure
why she was here.

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Nobody has to buy water here.

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It's so beautiful to come up here.

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-It's not work. It's like… inspiration.
-Yeah, I know. It's true.

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I felt a sense of calling

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that I wanted to move here.

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Long ago, I used to be Mormon.

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I was mainstream Mormon,

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but I was absolutely zealous and devoted.

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Mormons believe in prophets.

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And I met a man who persuaded me
that he was a modern-day prophet.

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And I decided, if this man was a prophet,

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I was going to be completely obedient.

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I had to do what he said or risk my soul.

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Little by little, I got more confused,

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and I lost my critical thinking.

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Before I knew it,

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I was so broken.

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I didn't even know who I was anymore.

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So I then spent the next decade

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reading everything I could about cults.

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I became an expert in cult psychology.

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I believed that every single person
who was FLDS needed to be rescued

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from irrational cultic beliefs
and brainwashing.

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But I felt connected to these people.

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So all of this made me believe

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that I could be helpful here.

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And when I got here,

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I learned that the FLDS were floundering.

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In the aftermath
of Warren Jeffs's incarceration,

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the community has really been
fraying and fragmenting.

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Warren Jeffs wound up
in a prison down in Texas.

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He's been there a long time.

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But I've been around the story
long enough to know incarcerating Warren

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would do nothing to diminish his power.

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Having him in prison
doesn't change what he is.

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You know, Heavenly Father hasn't
appointed another to be the prophet.

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So as far as we're concerned,
he's still the prophet.

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-Do you know what happened in that trial?
-I don't want to know anything about it.

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You don't want to know anything about it?
How come?

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Just don't want to.

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I shut myself off
to that negative about him, I--

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-You don't believe it's true?
-I know it's not true.

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Warren Jeffs became more powerful
because he's now a martyr.

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And from his prison in Texas,
he would put out edicts.

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Behold that which you hear,
the revelations of God.

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He told his congregation,
"No more marriages."

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He told them to stop having sex.

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Because he's not having
any sort of intimate contact,

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apparently nobody else could.

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We weren't supposed to be getting married.

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We couldn't have marital relations.

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Even with your husband,
then we didn't hug anymore.

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We've been taught our whole lives
that not one year should go by

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without a child being born.

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And now there were no more children.

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Nobody was having babies.

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Oh my gosh.

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Look at these cribs.

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Holy mackerel. This is where
they took all the cribs and bassinets

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after you couldn't have children anymore.

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There are just hundreds and hundreds
of FLDS cribs in here.

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Wow.

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You have a group of people
who are paralyzed,

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waiting for their leader
to be released from prison,

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not knowing
what the right steps are to do.

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And around 2015,

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Warren seemed to be getting
more mentally unstable,

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and he stopped communicating
with almost everyone outside of prison.

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And then in 2016,

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the outside government came in

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and took control of the town away
from the FLDS and Warren Jeffs.

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The court sort of took control
of the entire community.

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The prophet was gone.

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We weren't getting directive.

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We were a very, very vulnerable

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and hungry… people.

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When we got to Short Creek,

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we began to see
what the FLDS were going through.

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We started seeing endless moving trailers

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packing up and leaving town.

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We learned that, when the town
had been taken over by the state of Utah,

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the FLDS started being evicted
from their homes.

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I need you off the property.

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I'm not gonna be off the property.

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-Okay, then I'll call the police.
-I want you to kick me out of my home.

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Because in order for them
to stay in their homes,

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they had to sign a document

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that they believed
was a violation of their religion.

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Take a picture of this.

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This is an eviction

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of somebody
who was just evicted last week,

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moved over temporarily into this house.

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So, Tolga and I
just started documenting these things.

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Do you need help?
Can we help him? Do you need help?

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I don't know what's going on,
but this looks really wrong.

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I feel bad for these people.

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This was my great-grandfather
Elmer's homestead.

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It's just totally heartless.

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We just saw what I felt was injustice,

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and no one cared because they were FLDS

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and had been painted
with the crimes of Warren Jeffs.

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So, we thought,

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well, maybe we could do a documentary
and tell the other side of the story

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of these FLDS people
because they're so stigmatized.

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Okay, that's rolling.

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And this is rolling.
Oh, I'm not rolling yet.

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I have to do this, so…

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it syncs to audio on both cameras.

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We wanted to help people understand
the positive side of the community.

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You look like you're going on a safari.

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-What's with the hat?
-I wanted to look like a producer.

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Okay, Tolga, I'm gonna do it.

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Let's do a little orientation,
um, real quick.

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Okay, do it.

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Okay. So, if he's filming,
if you see Tolga with a camera,

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then don't call his name
and don't call my name.

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We wanna show the regular life.
We wanna show the truth.

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It took us a while to totally trust,

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but she really knew
how to get into people's hearts

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and put 'em at ease.

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So, the FLDS people consider themselves
to be like the real Mormons, right?

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Yeah, we just feel like that we wanna
live it fundamentally, in its purity.

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-Yeah, okay.
-And…

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I didn't know about her backstory.

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I didn't know anything
about her ventriloquism.

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Happy birthday to you.

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I happen to be a ventriloquist.

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By the way, this is Zucchini.
She's my scarecrow.

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I'm not just a scarecrow.

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I'm half scarecrow, half cookie.

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Oh yeah…

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Before I moved here,
I lived a very colorful life.

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I had all kinds of adventures.

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Miss Michigan, Christine Marie.

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I am a former Miss Michigan,

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an escape artist,

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a certified life coach.

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We're gonna make vowel babies.

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I love these.

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So, what you do
is cut out two pieces of fabric.

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When I met Christine, she had
a TV show called Gingerbread House,

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and she was teaching kindergarten.

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I've never met
anybody like her in my life.

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I would catch her doing crazy stuff,
helping out people.

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Dean is here.

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He collected up a bunch of donations
for our community.

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Yeah, we got…

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As we were making the documentary,

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I also launched a nonprofit
called Voices for Dignity.

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We would bring comfort bags
and resource lists.

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And these are all new backpacks
and duffel bags.

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You're kidding. Woo!

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We needed a way
for the women to have an income,

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so Christine created Short Creek Cottage,

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where we'd sell homemade items.

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Oh, that's adorable.

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I don't know how I would have survived
without this cottage.

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Yeah, let's do… let's do it with energy.

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I had gained their trust.

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I thought, what an honor
and unique position it was for me.

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-How'd you get down? Tell Tolga.
-I landed.

00:15:39.980 --> 00:15:41.899 align:center
-I had to.
-How did you get down?

00:15:41.982 --> 00:15:46.779 align:center
I decided whether people leave the church
or don't, I want them to be okay.

00:15:47.404 --> 00:15:51.408 align:center
And that I would never say
anything negative about their prophet,

00:15:51.492 --> 00:15:55.579 align:center
because I have the unique opportunity
to help people.

00:15:55.663 --> 00:15:59.166 align:center
Why would they come to somebody
fighting against their way of life?

00:16:03.963 --> 00:16:06.048 align:center
Wait one second, Christine, wait.

00:16:06.757 --> 00:16:09.009 align:center
You can turn that one on.
Hold on. Wait, guys.

00:16:10.469 --> 00:16:14.807 align:center
We were very excited about
this documentary project we were making.

00:16:14.890 --> 00:16:16.934 align:center
I'm getting video.

00:16:17.601 --> 00:16:18.686 align:center
By this point,

00:16:18.769 --> 00:16:21.647 align:center
it was just known
that Tolga's around with a camera.

00:16:21.730 --> 00:16:24.566 align:center
Tolga! He's got a big lookin' camera!

00:16:24.650 --> 00:16:28.821 align:center
He's video-ing everyone
Around the world too!

00:16:32.157 --> 00:16:34.410 align:center
And that's how we met Sam Bateman.

00:16:34.910 --> 00:16:35.953 align:center
Hey, Christine.

00:16:37.663 --> 00:16:39.081 align:center
-Come right through here.
-Okay.

00:16:39.164 --> 00:16:41.542 align:center
-I'll push all this out of the way.
-Okay, thanks.

00:16:42.251 --> 00:16:43.419 align:center
All right. Got it.

00:16:43.502 --> 00:16:44.712 align:center
In the community,

00:16:44.795 --> 00:16:48.757 align:center
Sam was not generally a man with status.

00:16:49.466 --> 00:16:51.260 align:center
I don't mind doing things that

00:16:52.219 --> 00:16:54.847 align:center
could break my leg or something
if I wasn't careful.

00:16:56.098 --> 00:17:00.060 align:center
When I first met Sam Bateman,
I didn't think much about him.

00:17:00.144 --> 00:17:01.353 align:center
He had got an eviction notice.

00:17:03.063 --> 00:17:04.982 align:center
And he asked me to help,

00:17:05.691 --> 00:17:06.692 align:center
which I did.

00:17:10.779 --> 00:17:13.949 align:center
At that time, he said,
"I'm not doing very well."

00:17:14.032 --> 00:17:15.826 align:center
"I am in financially dire straits."

00:17:18.203 --> 00:17:20.164 align:center
He and his wife were getting a divorce,

00:17:20.956 --> 00:17:22.624 align:center
and he was a broken man.

00:17:24.126 --> 00:17:27.004 align:center
People thought of Sam Bateman
as kind of a shlub.

00:17:28.005 --> 00:17:31.008 align:center
He could never seem
to make money at his jobs.

00:17:31.759 --> 00:17:35.220 align:center
He was looking for, you know, a lifeline.

00:17:40.601 --> 00:17:42.936 align:center
I didn't see him for some time.

00:17:43.520 --> 00:17:46.982 align:center
And then Sam reappears with a new wife.

00:17:47.983 --> 00:17:49.568 align:center
Okay. All better. There you are.

00:17:49.651 --> 00:17:51.987 align:center
Over 18, but young and beautiful.

00:17:52.071 --> 00:17:53.280 align:center
Where should I look?

00:17:53.363 --> 00:17:55.240 align:center
You can just look at him or Christine.

00:17:55.741 --> 00:17:56.658 align:center
Look at me.

00:17:56.742 --> 00:17:59.203 align:center
Keep in mind,
people are not getting married

00:17:59.286 --> 00:18:01.705 align:center
because the prophet
stopped marrying people.

00:18:02.539 --> 00:18:04.500 align:center
-I have…
-Is it an iPhone?

00:18:04.583 --> 00:18:06.710 align:center
I remember thinking, "That's interesting."

00:18:07.252 --> 00:18:09.421 align:center
How did Sam get a new wife, you know?

00:18:09.505 --> 00:18:13.258 align:center
You know, somebody's…
been doing something that

00:18:13.342 --> 00:18:16.887 align:center
wasn't put together by the prophet.

00:18:16.970 --> 00:18:19.181 align:center
-What background do you want? That?
-This one.

00:18:19.264 --> 00:18:20.516 align:center
-Yeah.
-Okay.

00:18:21.475 --> 00:18:24.228 align:center
The next time I saw Sam,
he had another wife.

00:18:25.395 --> 00:18:27.064 align:center
Again, over 18.

00:18:27.773 --> 00:18:30.192 align:center
And the younger sister of the first wife.

00:18:38.033 --> 00:18:40.786 align:center
I was running the Short Creek Cottage.

00:18:42.955 --> 00:18:45.541 align:center
And Sam showed up outside in the back.

00:18:46.875 --> 00:18:50.587 align:center
He was in a vehicle with a trailer.
Like a flatbed trailer.

00:18:53.841 --> 00:18:59.721 align:center
There's a gift we all can give
To help along the way…

00:18:59.805 --> 00:19:04.434 align:center
And I went out, and it was,
like, just… dripping with women.

00:19:04.518 --> 00:19:07.980 align:center
There are so many things to do

00:19:08.063 --> 00:19:11.066 align:center
He'd showed up
with all of these wives singing.

00:19:12.150 --> 00:19:13.735 align:center
I was like, "Really?"

00:19:15.028 --> 00:19:16.905 align:center
How did that happen?

00:19:18.782 --> 00:19:20.242 align:center
There were babies too.

00:19:21.660 --> 00:19:25.706 align:center
It was like they clear forgot
some of our core beliefs.

00:19:28.333 --> 00:19:30.419 align:center
It was really strange to me.

00:19:30.502 --> 00:19:32.254 align:center
All these women and girls.

00:19:53.817 --> 00:19:57.738 align:center
I had no desire to be…
close to that situation.

00:20:01.909 --> 00:20:03.994 align:center
I just started avoiding all of 'em.

00:20:04.703 --> 00:20:07.372 align:center
Everybody that I heard
was involved with him, I just…

00:20:07.873 --> 00:20:09.791 align:center
Okay, I don't wanna go there.

00:20:12.753 --> 00:20:16.298 align:center
Sam was always kind of a joke
in our whole friend group.

00:20:16.381 --> 00:20:19.259 align:center
So at first, I didn't believe it.

00:20:19.343 --> 00:20:20.469 align:center
I thought it was funny.

00:20:21.511 --> 00:20:25.057 align:center
But when Warren goes
to a whole group of people and says,

00:20:25.140 --> 00:20:27.017 align:center
"Thou shalt not have sex,"

00:20:27.643 --> 00:20:30.812 align:center
I'll bet you that lasts
about two and a half mi-- milliseconds.

00:20:30.896 --> 00:20:34.942 align:center
Why? Because you can't proselyte
human nature out of humans.

00:20:35.025 --> 00:20:36.276 align:center
They're gonna do it.

00:20:37.945 --> 00:20:39.446 align:center
And guess what? They did.

00:20:42.407 --> 00:20:46.453 align:center
Sam is apparently doing
his own version of being FLDS.

00:20:46.536 --> 00:20:49.289 align:center
Getting married, having babies,

00:20:50.040 --> 00:20:52.000 align:center
and who knows what else.

00:20:52.084 --> 00:20:54.628 align:center
The FLDS community shunned Sam.

00:20:55.379 --> 00:20:58.256 align:center
They knew something was wrong.
Red flag, Sam is shunned.

00:20:59.758 --> 00:21:00.759 align:center
I don't shun.

00:21:01.969 --> 00:21:03.720 align:center
If you shun, you can't help.

00:21:03.804 --> 00:21:07.641 align:center
If you attack, they're not gonna
come to you when they're in need.

00:21:07.724 --> 00:21:09.309 align:center
You wanna go flyin'?

00:21:09.393 --> 00:21:12.020 align:center
Oh, it's working. Okay, so what happened?

00:21:12.104 --> 00:21:14.523 align:center
Just seeing Sam with all these females

00:21:14.606 --> 00:21:16.566 align:center
is concerning in and of itself.

00:21:17.734 --> 00:21:20.946 align:center
So I wanted to figure out
what was going on.

00:21:22.698 --> 00:21:25.867 align:center
Sam invited Tolga and I to come to dinner

00:21:25.951 --> 00:21:29.246 align:center
at a house where Sam
and a lot of his wives lived.

00:21:33.375 --> 00:21:34.501 align:center
-Hi.
-Hey.

00:21:35.836 --> 00:21:39.256 align:center
There were a lot of people there,
but mostly young women.

00:21:41.174 --> 00:21:43.719 align:center
And then some very small children.

00:21:46.930 --> 00:21:48.932 align:center
They gave us their Sunday best.

00:21:50.517 --> 00:21:51.852 align:center
And then after dinner,

00:21:52.728 --> 00:21:55.480 align:center
they started singing to us
like a talent show.

00:21:55.564 --> 00:21:57.983 align:center
I think these little girls
want to sing you a song too.

00:21:58.066 --> 00:21:59.359 align:center
-Okay.
-Some might.

00:21:59.443 --> 00:22:01.611 align:center
-All right.
-Oh, that'd be wonderful.

00:22:01.695 --> 00:22:03.655 align:center
I wanna go here so I get everybody.

00:22:03.739 --> 00:22:05.323 align:center
If you guys don't all fit in the camera,

00:22:05.407 --> 00:22:07.868 align:center
I have to, like, keep turning,
I guess, like this.

00:22:08.994 --> 00:22:11.121 align:center
All right, we're ready for the song.

00:22:12.205 --> 00:22:15.625 align:center
An inheritance

00:22:15.709 --> 00:22:19.212 align:center
With our Savior

00:22:19.296 --> 00:22:21.548 align:center
In Zion…

00:22:21.631 --> 00:22:23.967 align:center
I had alarm bells ringing everywhere.

00:22:24.051 --> 00:22:29.014 align:center
Is everlasting

00:22:29.097 --> 00:22:32.768 align:center
I knew that Sam was married
to some of these women,

00:22:32.851 --> 00:22:34.686 align:center
you know, even these young women.

00:22:35.187 --> 00:22:38.273 align:center
But there were rumors
that he was married to the children.

00:22:38.357 --> 00:22:40.400 align:center
And this group is called?

00:22:40.484 --> 00:22:41.568 align:center
Us.

00:22:41.651 --> 00:22:42.611 align:center
Okay.

00:22:42.694 --> 00:22:45.572 align:center
-How old are you guys?
-Didn't you make the words and the…?

00:22:45.655 --> 00:22:47.240 align:center
-What?
-We're both 10.

00:22:47.324 --> 00:22:48.241 align:center
Really?

00:22:55.040 --> 00:22:57.751 align:center
After the dinner and talent show,

00:22:58.418 --> 00:23:00.504 align:center
I talked to a police officer.

00:23:01.296 --> 00:23:04.091 align:center
The Colorado City/Hildale City
Police Department

00:23:04.174 --> 00:23:06.134 align:center
is a department that's contracted

00:23:06.218 --> 00:23:10.597 align:center
to manage policing services
on both sides of the border

00:23:10.680 --> 00:23:12.057 align:center
in Utah and in Arizona.

00:23:13.141 --> 00:23:15.310 align:center
We here in Colorado City/Hildale

00:23:16.061 --> 00:23:20.482 align:center
have… a nice little community.

00:23:20.982 --> 00:23:22.609 align:center
The nickname's "the Crick."

00:23:23.610 --> 00:23:25.695 align:center
It's been kind of a sanctuary place

00:23:25.779 --> 00:23:29.574 align:center
for people who practice plural marriage.

00:23:30.951 --> 00:23:34.162 align:center
Prior to Christine Marie speaking to us,

00:23:34.246 --> 00:23:36.748 align:center
members of the community
had reached out to the police department

00:23:36.832 --> 00:23:40.252 align:center
on a number of occasions
about Sam Bateman.

00:23:41.670 --> 00:23:47.968 align:center
We had heard that he was trying
to gather members of the FLDS community

00:23:48.051 --> 00:23:50.011 align:center
to his new offshoot,

00:23:50.095 --> 00:23:53.807 align:center
that he was gathering multiple wives,

00:23:53.890 --> 00:23:56.601 align:center
and that some of those wives
may be underage.

00:23:57.727 --> 00:24:00.564 align:center
It was obviously cause for concern.

00:24:01.398 --> 00:24:03.483 align:center
But I told Christine Marie at the time

00:24:03.567 --> 00:24:09.239 align:center
that unless we could establish
that some criminal act occurred,

00:24:09.322 --> 00:24:11.658 align:center
we did not have a crime to investigate.

00:24:12.325 --> 00:24:13.368 align:center
Okay.

00:24:13.452 --> 00:24:15.454 align:center
Sergeant Wilkinson told me,

00:24:15.537 --> 00:24:19.916 align:center
"It's not a crime to call someone
your wife, even if it's a child."

00:24:20.000 --> 00:24:23.503 align:center
"What's a crime is to do
something with that child,

00:24:23.587 --> 00:24:25.505 align:center
something like to molest that child."

00:24:26.339 --> 00:24:28.717 align:center
And I didn't have that information.

00:24:31.803 --> 00:24:35.849 align:center
So I'm paying attention
to any clue I can get.

00:24:37.100 --> 00:24:41.771 align:center
And Sam started inviting us to things
and wanting us to film.

00:24:42.397 --> 00:24:45.567 align:center
Wow, how many people
are coming out of there? Wow.

00:24:45.650 --> 00:24:47.903 align:center
What in the world?

00:24:50.322 --> 00:24:51.740 align:center
It was uncanny.

00:24:51.823 --> 00:24:54.701 align:center
We would go on a hike up in the mountains.

00:24:57.078 --> 00:24:58.246 align:center
Sam would be there.

00:24:58.788 --> 00:24:59.998 align:center
How's it going?

00:25:01.124 --> 00:25:03.084 align:center
That was amazing.
I'm gonna shake your hand.

00:25:03.168 --> 00:25:05.712 align:center
That was like,
how do you get up those rocks like that?

00:25:05.795 --> 00:25:07.714 align:center
And then we got an idea.

00:25:09.049 --> 00:25:10.050 align:center
Hello, Tolga.

00:25:10.133 --> 00:25:11.092 align:center
Hey, brother.

00:25:11.176 --> 00:25:14.262 align:center
Sorry, my voice is so bad,
but I just got back into town, so…

00:25:14.346 --> 00:25:17.349 align:center
…I'm gonna bring you
a little surprise. Is that okay?

00:25:17.432 --> 00:25:21.311 align:center
It's your birthday, so I wanted to kind of
film it and give this to you.

00:25:21.394 --> 00:25:22.854 align:center
The idea was,

00:25:22.938 --> 00:25:24.272 align:center
if they let us film…

00:25:24.356 --> 00:25:26.691 align:center
-Happy birthday!
-Where's the birthday boy?

00:25:26.775 --> 00:25:29.986 align:center
…maybe if we spent more time with them

00:25:30.070 --> 00:25:32.697 align:center
and developed a relationship with them,

00:25:32.781 --> 00:25:35.742 align:center
maybe we would see
what was really going on.

00:25:36.409 --> 00:25:38.912 align:center
Was he sexually abusing
any of these girls?

00:25:39.663 --> 00:25:42.499 align:center
-How old are we now?
-Thank you, 46.

00:25:42.582 --> 00:25:44.334 align:center
Forty-six? Okay, good.

00:25:44.417 --> 00:25:45.543 align:center
Did you have a good birthday?

00:25:45.627 --> 00:25:47.379 align:center
What did you do for his birthday?

00:25:47.462 --> 00:25:49.714 align:center
-We're doing it tomorrow.
-Tomorrow? Okay.

00:25:49.798 --> 00:25:51.550 align:center
I'm so glad we came tonight, then.

00:25:51.633 --> 00:25:52.926 align:center
This is for the king.

00:25:53.009 --> 00:25:54.678 align:center
Yes.

00:25:54.761 --> 00:25:56.805 align:center
We were gonna literally bring you a crown.

00:25:56.888 --> 00:25:59.349 align:center
We wanted to get a crown,
but we couldn't find any, so…

00:25:59.432 --> 00:26:00.475 align:center
Well, thank you.

00:26:00.559 --> 00:26:02.519 align:center
What I told them is,

00:26:02.602 --> 00:26:04.437 align:center
"I'll go in my room and shut the door,

00:26:04.521 --> 00:26:06.648 align:center
and you sing 'Happy Birthday'
while I'm there."

00:26:06.731 --> 00:26:08.024 align:center
Oh.

00:26:12.654 --> 00:26:14.572 align:center
Sam, I learned,

00:26:14.656 --> 00:26:17.951 align:center
was the actual leader of this new group.

00:26:18.034 --> 00:26:19.160 align:center
The Samuelite Group.

00:26:21.454 --> 00:26:23.665 align:center
They all lived in the same house.

00:26:24.749 --> 00:26:26.001 align:center
A big blue house.

00:26:31.840 --> 00:26:34.009 align:center
The group was very small,

00:26:34.718 --> 00:26:36.970 align:center
less than 50 people,
and that includes babies.

00:26:37.929 --> 00:26:41.725 align:center
Besides Sam,
there were three main families involved.

00:26:43.268 --> 00:26:46.146 align:center
He recruited Torrance Bistline.

00:26:47.355 --> 00:26:50.275 align:center
Torrance was a very motivated businessman.

00:26:51.443 --> 00:26:55.238 align:center
Sam also recruited Ladell Bistline Jr.

00:26:55.739 --> 00:26:57.991 align:center
and Moroni Johnson.

00:26:58.491 --> 00:27:02.662 align:center
I was so lacking
in that gift of revelation.

00:27:02.746 --> 00:27:05.415 align:center
I could not do it without Samuel's help.

00:27:05.999 --> 00:27:08.793 align:center
I love him more than I love anyone,
and I will do what he asks me to do.

00:27:08.877 --> 00:27:12.505 align:center
And he has proven it and proven it,
and God is my witness.

00:27:14.090 --> 00:27:17.302 align:center
All the men in Sam's group
had status in the community,

00:27:17.385 --> 00:27:19.179 align:center
and they all were successful.

00:27:20.347 --> 00:27:21.431 align:center
And I thought,

00:27:22.432 --> 00:27:25.352 align:center
why are they going for Sam, of all people?

00:27:29.606 --> 00:27:31.316 align:center
For the FLDS,

00:27:31.399 --> 00:27:34.694 align:center
everyone was expected
to be obedient to the prophet.

00:27:34.778 --> 00:27:36.321 align:center
That's the way to heaven.

00:27:37.697 --> 00:27:40.325 align:center
So they're dying to hear from Warren,

00:27:40.408 --> 00:27:42.660 align:center
dying to know what their next step was.

00:27:45.288 --> 00:27:47.666 align:center
It's been five, six, seven years

00:27:47.749 --> 00:27:50.668 align:center
since some of these people
have heard from Warren.

00:27:53.713 --> 00:27:55.340 align:center
Now suddenly,

00:27:55.423 --> 00:27:57.676 align:center
Sam came up with

00:27:57.759 --> 00:28:00.512 align:center
that Warren Jeffs has actually died,

00:28:01.513 --> 00:28:05.016 align:center
and the media is lying to you,
as they always do,

00:28:05.100 --> 00:28:07.811 align:center
and it's just a mannequin
that's in his room.

00:28:11.689 --> 00:28:15.443 align:center
And Sam said,
"I am now Warren Jeffs's messenger."

00:28:15.527 --> 00:28:18.321 align:center
"He's giving me this direction
from the other side of death."

00:28:20.532 --> 00:28:23.410 align:center
This, in fact, was what Warren had said

00:28:23.493 --> 00:28:25.078 align:center
when his father died.

00:28:25.745 --> 00:28:27.956 align:center
His father had been the prophet,

00:28:28.039 --> 00:28:31.751 align:center
and Warren said that his father
was now speaking through him.

00:28:33.503 --> 00:28:36.339 align:center
And so what Sam told his followers

00:28:36.423 --> 00:28:38.425 align:center
was that Warren had left his body

00:28:38.508 --> 00:28:41.720 align:center
and that he was now speaking
through Samuel.

00:28:41.803 --> 00:28:44.264 align:center
The other night we were talking,
and he said,

00:28:44.347 --> 00:28:46.599 align:center
"This is the spirit of Uncle Warren."

00:28:47.642 --> 00:28:50.603 align:center
And I thought, that's pretty bold.

00:28:50.687 --> 00:28:52.856 align:center
Yeah, yeah, for sure.

00:28:52.939 --> 00:28:56.192 align:center
But if he didn't say it,
he'd have never woke me up

00:28:56.276 --> 00:28:59.112 align:center
and never started down the path
of waking me up.

00:28:59.195 --> 00:29:02.115 align:center
He is now the mouthpiece for Warren Jeffs.

00:29:02.198 --> 00:29:04.993 align:center
I can feel… people's spirits.

00:29:05.076 --> 00:29:08.163 align:center
I can feel it. The spirit. It's a gift.

00:29:17.005 --> 00:29:21.050 align:center
Sam decided that the mantle
of Warren Jeffs had fallen upon him.

00:29:21.718 --> 00:29:24.262 align:center
I mean, shit,
you take people's faith away,

00:29:24.345 --> 00:29:26.181 align:center
they'll do anything to feel it.

00:29:28.475 --> 00:29:31.853 align:center
Moroni was the first person
to believe in Sam.

00:29:33.938 --> 00:29:36.733 align:center
And because Sam was now the prophet,

00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:40.820 align:center
he agreed to turn over his daughters,

00:29:40.904 --> 00:29:43.823 align:center
even his very young daughters,
to marry Sam.

00:29:45.366 --> 00:29:47.118 align:center
By the time we met Moroni,

00:29:47.202 --> 00:29:50.580 align:center
he had given all of his daughters to Sam.

00:29:51.498 --> 00:29:52.791 align:center
I surrender

00:29:52.874 --> 00:29:54.459 align:center
the ladies under my care.

00:29:55.084 --> 00:29:57.128 align:center
They belong to Father Samuel.

00:29:57.212 --> 00:29:59.631 align:center
What he chooses to do with them
is his business.

00:30:00.632 --> 00:30:03.551 align:center
Moroni had many wives,

00:30:03.635 --> 00:30:06.346 align:center
and most of those wives married Sam.

00:30:09.265 --> 00:30:11.851 align:center
And then Sam starts taking

00:30:11.935 --> 00:30:14.103 align:center
Ladell's daughters

00:30:15.438 --> 00:30:16.856 align:center
and his wife

00:30:17.482 --> 00:30:19.692 align:center
and other women in his care.

00:30:20.777 --> 00:30:23.279 align:center
And I says, "Samuel, she's yours."

00:30:23.947 --> 00:30:25.907 align:center
And he said, "God bless you."

00:30:25.990 --> 00:30:29.410 align:center
So your whole family is now
going to be sealed to Samuel?

00:30:29.494 --> 00:30:30.578 align:center
Mm-hmm.

00:30:31.329 --> 00:30:34.040 align:center
However it might look to an earthly mind,

00:30:34.541 --> 00:30:35.959 align:center
you don't have any clue.

00:30:36.709 --> 00:30:38.002 align:center
Those girls love him.

00:30:38.878 --> 00:30:41.130 align:center
I'll testify that to the whole world.

00:30:41.631 --> 00:30:42.715 align:center
I've seen it.

00:30:45.343 --> 00:30:48.471 align:center
Everybody in a fundamental Mormon group

00:30:48.555 --> 00:30:50.807 align:center
want to be associated with the prophet.

00:30:51.808 --> 00:30:54.727 align:center
They want to be
the right-hand man of the prophet.

00:30:54.811 --> 00:30:57.188 align:center
They want to be the wife of the prophet.

00:30:57.272 --> 00:30:59.190 align:center
It's like being the wife of God.

00:30:59.691 --> 00:31:01.860 align:center
And if you're a believer,
who wouldn't want that?

00:31:09.033 --> 00:31:12.203 align:center
Several of my nieces ended up

00:31:12.996 --> 00:31:14.205 align:center
marrying him.

00:31:14.289 --> 00:31:17.542 align:center
It gave them the opportunity
to have children.

00:31:18.209 --> 00:31:20.837 align:center
And… I could…

00:31:20.920 --> 00:31:25.341 align:center
I just felt like,
but by the grace of God, that could be me.

00:31:29.888 --> 00:31:32.098 align:center
It was really hard for me to see

00:31:32.181 --> 00:31:35.393 align:center
these people that
I really loved and respected

00:31:36.102 --> 00:31:37.020 align:center
go that way.

00:31:38.146 --> 00:31:40.773 align:center
You know, Lud and Torrance are my nephews.

00:31:41.816 --> 00:31:43.693 align:center
So I did know

00:31:44.235 --> 00:31:45.904 align:center
a lot of 'em very well.

00:31:47.572 --> 00:31:49.866 align:center
Now that he's a prophet,

00:31:49.949 --> 00:31:53.995 align:center
Sam would use his power
to make his desires known.

00:31:57.290 --> 00:32:01.169 align:center
Torrance had a very successful
green energy company

00:32:01.252 --> 00:32:03.087 align:center
that was making a lot of money.

00:32:04.255 --> 00:32:07.091 align:center
Moroni and Ladell worked for this company.

00:32:07.926 --> 00:32:12.930 align:center
And I learned that Sam's followers
were subsidizing his lifestyle.

00:32:15.391 --> 00:32:16.559 align:center
We found out where he lived,

00:32:16.643 --> 00:32:18.519 align:center
and so we'd drive by it
every couple of days

00:32:18.603 --> 00:32:20.063 align:center
and see how many cars he had there.

00:32:20.146 --> 00:32:22.065 align:center
And then all of a sudden, holy crap.

00:32:24.776 --> 00:32:26.861 align:center
That's basically the Bateman crew

00:32:27.403 --> 00:32:30.740 align:center
and their fleet of vehicles
driving by my house.

00:32:32.909 --> 00:32:36.871 align:center
They'd have a whole motorcade
with a Range Rover and two Bentleys

00:32:36.955 --> 00:32:38.665 align:center
and then another Range Rover.

00:32:41.876 --> 00:32:44.629 align:center
And they'd drive around town and show off.

00:32:44.712 --> 00:32:47.548 align:center
It was really sort of a…

00:32:48.049 --> 00:32:50.843 align:center
a fuck you to all the men

00:32:50.927 --> 00:32:55.390 align:center
who had dissed on Sam and thought
he wasn't important in his life.

00:32:55.473 --> 00:32:59.060 align:center
He wanted to show those men
that he was the king.

00:33:13.908 --> 00:33:15.952 align:center
Did you ever hear the story

00:33:16.035 --> 00:33:18.663 align:center
of our Jan's Canyon experience?

00:33:19.247 --> 00:33:21.666 align:center
It was a training…
It was a training I was giving the girls.

00:33:21.749 --> 00:33:24.252 align:center
It was so dang deep.

00:33:24.335 --> 00:33:27.839 align:center
It looks… It looks small on the surface,
but it was… it was eternal.

00:33:27.922 --> 00:33:29.757 align:center
I… I could feel it from the start.

00:33:29.841 --> 00:33:32.218 align:center
Is it something
we should film them talking about?

00:33:32.301 --> 00:33:33.636 align:center
Oh, I… I think so, yeah.

00:33:37.598 --> 00:33:38.933 align:center
At some point,

00:33:39.016 --> 00:33:43.479 align:center
Sam started believing that
he should be the star of our documentary.

00:33:45.023 --> 00:33:48.735 align:center
What could be better than
blessing the world with his… his presence,

00:33:48.818 --> 00:33:50.903 align:center
his face, his teachings?

00:33:52.363 --> 00:33:53.406 align:center
Hi, Samuel.

00:33:53.489 --> 00:33:55.199 align:center
Okay, we're coming with cameras.

00:33:55.867 --> 00:33:56.993 align:center
Okay.

00:33:57.076 --> 00:34:00.747 align:center
Sam's calling us saying,
"Can you come film this?"

00:34:02.331 --> 00:34:03.666 align:center
We play along.

00:34:04.167 --> 00:34:07.670 align:center
The rule of thumb was,
if Sam wanted us to spend time,

00:34:07.754 --> 00:34:10.006 align:center
we were gonna go. This is our new job.

00:34:10.631 --> 00:34:12.925 align:center
-We brought Christine!
-Hi!

00:34:13.009 --> 00:34:14.218 align:center
Hi, Christine.

00:34:14.302 --> 00:34:16.387 align:center
We are going on an adventure.

00:34:17.764 --> 00:34:20.266 align:center
Tolga was making money doing music videos,

00:34:20.349 --> 00:34:23.186 align:center
but now his career was on hold.

00:34:23.770 --> 00:34:25.021 align:center
His life is on hold.

00:34:26.564 --> 00:34:28.357 align:center
He wanted us to film all the time.

00:34:28.441 --> 00:34:30.735 align:center
I'd like some videos
of me just walking real fast.

00:34:31.235 --> 00:34:33.863 align:center
My day would start out,
eight o'clock in the morning,

00:34:33.946 --> 00:34:37.950 align:center
"Tolga, Sam wants you
to go film him on the motorcycle."

00:34:38.576 --> 00:34:40.411 align:center
Tolga, he's there. You see him?

00:34:42.121 --> 00:34:44.582 align:center
He was the worst.
He couldn't jump the motorcycle.

00:34:44.665 --> 00:34:46.918 align:center
He couldn't do anything.
I had to sit there and watch him

00:34:47.001 --> 00:34:47.877 align:center
like a fool.

00:34:49.378 --> 00:34:50.505 align:center
Amazing.

00:34:52.632 --> 00:34:54.967 align:center
He would say,
"I want you to watch me hike."

00:34:56.928 --> 00:34:59.472 align:center
Wow, you're really talented.
I didn't know that.

00:34:59.555 --> 00:35:03.267 align:center
-Where did you learn to do that?
-What, to hike? Just hiking, huh?

00:35:05.937 --> 00:35:07.563 align:center
We're here with Sam and the girls,

00:35:07.647 --> 00:35:12.777 align:center
and he's, um, facilitating
a reenactment of an experience.

00:35:12.860 --> 00:35:15.488 align:center
There's a message in it.
It's like a life lesson,

00:35:15.571 --> 00:35:17.907 align:center
and he wanted that captured,
so we're doing it.

00:35:17.990 --> 00:35:19.575 align:center
So this is kind of how it was.

00:35:19.659 --> 00:35:21.410 align:center
Did you say, "Pray for me," right?

00:35:21.494 --> 00:35:23.037 align:center
Oh yeah, I didn't say that, did I?

00:35:23.121 --> 00:35:24.831 align:center
-Should we do that one again?
-Yeah.

00:35:26.624 --> 00:35:27.708 align:center
Pray for me.

00:35:28.793 --> 00:35:30.378 align:center
-That works.
-Perfect.

00:35:30.962 --> 00:35:32.797 align:center
I can't guarantee this is…

00:35:33.381 --> 00:35:35.007 align:center
this is the right path.

00:35:36.467 --> 00:35:37.718 align:center
Watch the cactus.

00:35:41.389 --> 00:35:43.641 align:center
Girls, I've been wondering
when you'd come down.

00:35:44.225 --> 00:35:48.646 align:center
I'm not displeased with you, but this is
a lesson that people have to learn,

00:35:48.729 --> 00:35:51.983 align:center
is that you can communicate
through the spirit of God.

00:35:53.943 --> 00:35:56.571 align:center
Okay. What?
Should we do it again, or what?

00:35:59.949 --> 00:36:01.200 align:center
Then one day,

00:36:01.284 --> 00:36:03.119 align:center
Sam called in the morning,

00:36:03.202 --> 00:36:05.163 align:center
and he said he had an impression.

00:36:05.246 --> 00:36:09.208 align:center
Now, an "impression" is
like God's telling you something.

00:36:09.292 --> 00:36:11.294 align:center
"I had an impression from the Lord

00:36:11.377 --> 00:36:13.379 align:center
that you and Tolga

00:36:13.462 --> 00:36:16.507 align:center
need to come over to my house this morning

00:36:17.008 --> 00:36:18.676 align:center
and we need to tell you some things."

00:36:18.759 --> 00:36:20.011 align:center
Oh my goodness, thank you.

00:36:20.094 --> 00:36:22.972 align:center
It might be a bit slushy
because it was in the freezer.

00:36:24.223 --> 00:36:27.226 align:center
He had all these women and children there.

00:36:27.310 --> 00:36:29.395 align:center
Because it's like
they're here to protect us…

00:36:29.478 --> 00:36:34.192 align:center
And then Sam said he had an impression
that he should leave the room

00:36:34.275 --> 00:36:37.028 align:center
while the girls talk to us.

00:36:39.322 --> 00:36:40.364 align:center
Okay.

00:36:40.448 --> 00:36:44.702 align:center
Finally, the chance
to talk to the girls by themselves.

00:36:45.870 --> 00:36:49.332 align:center
I was trying to figure out,
what can I ask without giving a red flag?

00:36:50.625 --> 00:36:53.336 align:center
So do you feel like…
do you feel like your life…

00:36:53.419 --> 00:36:55.922 align:center
Like, how has your life changed
since all this?

00:36:56.005 --> 00:36:58.007 align:center
Since you got your testimony of Samuel?

00:36:58.090 --> 00:36:59.842 align:center
All for the better.

00:36:59.926 --> 00:37:01.802 align:center
-Fifty times happier.
-Yeah.

00:37:01.886 --> 00:37:04.180 align:center
-Fifty times more at peace.
-Something to live for.

00:37:04.263 --> 00:37:07.350 align:center
There's always something to live for
and always an increase.

00:37:07.433 --> 00:37:09.393 align:center
And you always know
that somebody loves you,

00:37:09.477 --> 00:37:11.103 align:center
somebody's praying for you.

00:37:11.854 --> 00:37:16.025 align:center
What more could a girl ask for
but just to belong somewhere.

00:37:16.108 --> 00:37:17.610 align:center
Yeah.

00:37:18.611 --> 00:37:20.988 align:center
The girls were enamored with Sam.

00:37:21.614 --> 00:37:24.158 align:center
They told us that they had received

00:37:24.241 --> 00:37:27.620 align:center
confirmation from God
that they were meant to be with Sam.

00:37:27.703 --> 00:37:29.956 align:center
Should we hop in the Bentley
and get Toro and talk to him?

00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:31.249 align:center
-Sure.
-Okay.

00:37:32.291 --> 00:37:35.419 align:center
And then Sam said, "Let's go for a drive."

00:37:36.504 --> 00:37:39.048 align:center
And he puts us in the car,

00:37:39.131 --> 00:37:43.219 align:center
and he picks three girls. "I want you
and you and you to come along."

00:37:44.553 --> 00:37:46.973 align:center
We start driving around.

00:37:47.056 --> 00:37:49.100 align:center
There's four of us in the back seat,

00:37:49.183 --> 00:37:53.479 align:center
and then Tolga in the front with Sam,
but he wasn't filming.

00:37:56.357 --> 00:37:59.777 align:center
Sam starts talking about
how much he suffered.

00:38:00.945 --> 00:38:04.573 align:center
And it seems as if he's trying
to build up to something.

00:38:05.741 --> 00:38:07.743 align:center
I thought, where is this gonna go?

00:38:07.827 --> 00:38:10.121 align:center
I put in a lot of hours
to wait for this moment

00:38:10.204 --> 00:38:11.831 align:center
to see what is really happening.

00:38:11.914 --> 00:38:14.917 align:center
So I reached my hand down into my purse,

00:38:15.001 --> 00:38:16.043 align:center
grabbed my phone,

00:38:17.295 --> 00:38:20.214 align:center
and I sneak it up my leg.

00:38:21.590 --> 00:38:24.677 align:center
And I very secretly hit record.

00:38:25.177 --> 00:38:27.179 align:center
And Sam

00:38:28.347 --> 00:38:30.099 align:center
just spilled the beans.

00:38:50.202 --> 00:38:51.328 align:center
Okay.

00:39:13.934 --> 00:39:14.935 align:center
Mmm.

00:39:17.146 --> 00:39:18.898 align:center
Sam explained

00:39:18.981 --> 00:39:23.861 align:center
that he had to atone
for the sins of wicked men

00:39:23.944 --> 00:39:27.531 align:center
by having these three wives

00:39:29.408 --> 00:39:30.451 align:center
have sex with them.

00:39:30.534 --> 00:39:33.162 align:center
The three girls
he had chosen to come in the car

00:39:33.245 --> 00:39:34.663 align:center
were the three he was telling you?

00:39:34.747 --> 00:39:35.581 align:center
Yes.

00:39:52.723 --> 00:39:55.393 align:center
This girl was 13 years old.

00:39:57.561 --> 00:40:00.356 align:center
It was clear, for the first time,

00:40:00.856 --> 00:40:04.402 align:center
that… there was sexual abuse of children.

00:40:08.739 --> 00:40:09.573 align:center
Yeah.

00:40:15.079 --> 00:40:15.955 align:center
Mmm.

00:40:20.126 --> 00:40:20.960 align:center
Yeah.

00:40:24.171 --> 00:40:26.006 align:center
While he's telling this story,

00:40:26.090 --> 00:40:27.925 align:center
he's trying to describe

00:40:28.426 --> 00:40:31.512 align:center
all the pain and suffering
that he had to go through.

00:40:32.805 --> 00:40:33.973 align:center
In the meantime,

00:40:34.932 --> 00:40:39.019 align:center
these pure FLDS women,

00:40:39.103 --> 00:40:41.564 align:center
young women and child,

00:40:43.023 --> 00:40:45.317 align:center
are incredibly humiliated.

00:40:45.401 --> 00:40:46.444 align:center
They were like,

00:40:47.486 --> 00:40:49.238 align:center
you know, not good.

00:40:54.577 --> 00:40:56.537 align:center
Yeah, it hurts.

00:40:58.831 --> 00:41:02.334 align:center
She said, "I was so dang scared."

00:41:02.418 --> 00:41:05.546 align:center
And then Sam starts telling them
what to say.

00:41:13.179 --> 00:41:15.598 align:center
-Not one speck of anything.
-Trauma?

00:41:27.651 --> 00:41:28.569 align:center
Has it…?

00:41:47.796 --> 00:41:48.714 align:center
Wow.

00:41:50.257 --> 00:41:55.054 align:center
All of the panic circuitry
in my body was exploding.

00:41:55.137 --> 00:41:57.723 align:center
I mean, my mouth was turning into cotton,

00:41:57.806 --> 00:42:01.435 align:center
and I couldn't handle any more.

00:42:02.394 --> 00:42:05.272 align:center
Well, I am gonna go start getting ready
and feed the animals,

00:42:05.356 --> 00:42:07.983 align:center
but Tolga can stay
and talk more if… if you want.

00:42:08.609 --> 00:42:09.485 align:center
So, um…

00:42:09.568 --> 00:42:12.821 align:center
-We actually gotta be home too.
-Well, thank you.

00:42:12.905 --> 00:42:14.657 align:center
-Love you, guys.
-All good.

00:42:14.740 --> 00:42:16.617 align:center
-Thank you.
-Thank you. I love you.

00:42:16.700 --> 00:42:18.160 align:center
-God bless you.
-Love you too.

00:42:18.244 --> 00:42:20.996 align:center
-Love you, Sam. Love you all.
-Thank you guys so much.

00:42:21.080 --> 00:42:22.164 align:center
Bye.

00:42:26.043 --> 00:42:29.672 align:center
The date is November 10th, 2021.

00:42:31.924 --> 00:42:33.509 align:center
The location is

00:42:34.718 --> 00:42:36.887 align:center
Colorado City, Arizona.

00:42:37.471 --> 00:42:39.348 align:center
Driving around in a car.

00:42:49.608 --> 00:42:51.443 align:center
Yeah. Tolga, we have to… we have to…

00:42:51.527 --> 00:42:53.195 align:center
I have to turn this tape in.

00:42:54.071 --> 00:42:56.532 align:center
Yes, but you got… you got now full trust.

00:42:56.615 --> 00:42:57.992 align:center
You gotta wait a couple more days.

00:42:58.075 --> 00:43:00.494 align:center
-I know, I can't… I have to explain.
-They can't know.

00:43:00.578 --> 00:43:03.580 align:center
These girls need my…
They need to trust me,

00:43:03.664 --> 00:43:05.791 align:center
or they won't ever trust anybody.

00:43:05.874 --> 00:43:07.668 align:center
So I don't know what to do.

00:43:07.751 --> 00:43:10.838 align:center
-You know. They'll know--
-Just lay low for a second.

00:43:10.921 --> 00:43:13.632 align:center
-Just let the police know, and… lay low.
-Yeah.

00:43:13.716 --> 00:43:15.217 align:center
Yeah, I'm gonna call.
now, and… lay low.
-Yeah.