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After I got Sam's confession,

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I gave the audio
to the local police department.

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I say, "I got a bombshell."

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"I have evidence. I have proof.
I have the proof you've been waiting for."

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It was not adultery. It was obedience.

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And I expected, maybe, you know,
within three days I would get a call back.

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You know, "Yep, this is it.
We're gonna go arrest him."

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But it took a while
for the police to get back to us.

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So we kept filming.

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Here we are in the Bentley
with the man with the plan.

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Wow, what an interior.
I love it. The white jacket and the tan.

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I would ask questions
to try to get more information.

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So, I'm sorry
that I'm not educated in this.

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That's all right.

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But it was revealed to you,
what to do to save them?

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All I know is I was sitting
in one of our meetings one morning,

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and I was like, "Holy shit."

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And I said, "I will obey."

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'Cause the Lord told me
to… to do this thing.

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So do you think that

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the reason you had to witness it

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was so that you would hurt?

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It is pain.

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They're my sweethearts. There's nothing
on the earth more precious to me

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than the virtue

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of women in general and my own wives.

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I think he wanted somebody to say,
"Wow. You must be the new Messiah,

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that you would hurt like Jesus."

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-I…
-Did you cry?

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I couldn't even cry. I didn't even… I…
I was so shocked, I didn't cry. I don't…

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I don't think.

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Yeah, I did, sorry. I did cry.

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But watch,

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you'll… you'll find out
that God made me a prophet,

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and you'll find out
that people will come back.

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-They'll come begging… me for forgiveness.
-Yeah.

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Do you see more wives joining the family?

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Probably.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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When Christine recorded Sam
talking about the sexual abuse,

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I knew that it had her really worried
and worked up in her feelings

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about what was going on there.

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She was worried about the girls.

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Thank you so much, Christine,
for everything also.

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We love you and God bless you.

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Eventually, I heard back from the police,

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who said that wasn't enough evidence.

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Christine had told me about the recording.

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In that recording,

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Sam talks about adult men
having sex with young women.

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Um, I don't remember
exact wording, obviously. I…

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I haven't listened to it
since I listened to it the first time.

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It's not something
I like to… to burden myself with

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as… as we go through these cases

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because there is a lot
of information that comes

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that… that hurts a gentle heart.

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We had a tape.

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We had Christine Marie,

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who could testify
that she created the tape.

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-Do you feel unclean?
-No.

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There was not wickedness.

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Based on this single tape,

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I didn't have enough for a warrant.

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What was missing was the finer elements.

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There was more evidence needed

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before we could start

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knocking at the hornet's nest,
if you will.

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What we know

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and what we can prove
beyond a reasonable doubt

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are two very different things.

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-Hey, darlin'.
-Hello.

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I talked to the investigator
to find out what they thought

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after listening to the evidence.

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-Yes?
-But nope.

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Oh my gosh.

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Even though the tape
was strong, Sam could deny it.

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Wow.

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In the meantime,

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he's just the cruelest bastard
I've ever met.

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Yeah.

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I was worried for my mom.

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At the time,

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my mom was at risk
of going to a darker and darker place

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because of her firsthand experience
following someone like Sam Bateman.

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Never judge. 'Cause I've been there.

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I lost everything.

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I was scammed, and I was, like,
uh, almost not here anymore.

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I lost everything to being, uh…
to not understanding

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who is… who to trust and who not to trust.

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Predators have just
always been drawn to her

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'cause she really sees the best in people.

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She sees the best in people to a fault.

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Ugh, scary.

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I was worried for her, but I also knew
that she was the only one

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who could actually get him put in jail.

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And to do that,

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she would have to go even deeper.

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I don't know.
Is that how it's supposed to be?

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Underneath the collar?

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Like, if we put it under the collar,
then it's not seen.

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-Okay, so do you want me to start?
-Yeah. Yeah.

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Okay, once upon a time…

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…many, many moons ago…

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While we were filming,

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I was trying to get to know the girls more

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and to understand
the women in Sam's group.

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One person at a time?

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Okay, start with your name.

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We call her Mother Anna.

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I changed her name,
and she didn't even get mad at me.

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Ah.

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How did you go to Samuel?

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In 2019.

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I was 22, and nobody
was gettin' married, you know.

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-Our people weren't havin' children.
-Yeah.

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But then my parents
started having children again.

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So I felt like
it was the right thing to do.

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Yeah, I can understand that.

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Okay, Mother Shiny,
we're ready to hear some stuff.

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To just have the impression
and go to a man

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was completely against our traditions.

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And yet, in my mind, I wanted to do it
because I wanted a baby so dang bad.

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And Samuel's name, it came into my mind.

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It said, "You belong to him."
This thing in the back of my mind.

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-He did? Oh…
-No, in the back of my mind.

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-It was a still, small voice.
-A still, small voice.

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-But it shook you to the very center.
-Yeah, it was very clear.

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"You are a part

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of the greatest events in history."

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I know it's gonna sound weird,
but the spirit of God tells me to tell you

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that there was a power that linked
everything through the whole universe.

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I don't know why
the Lord opened my eyes to see,

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but I did.

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This is… This is real. It's a real thing.

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Am I wrong?

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-No.
-No.

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I… I'm not wrong.

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I knew they were putting on a show,

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but I didn't know exactly
what was going on behind the scenes.

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Hello, Christine.

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Um, some of the girls were saying
that you wanted to hear more testimonies.

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Is that true or…?

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You bet it is.

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It's so inspiring to hear them,
and I think it serves you well.

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I was not permitted
to be alone with the underage girls.

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How are you?

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But Sam started sending
his wives over to my house

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because he wanted us to film
these storytelling testimony sessions

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for the documentary.

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Yay!

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He wanted to capture
how much his girls love him.

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Let's do it.

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Do you guys want to, um, eat…
eat while she's talking?

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Just… Just don't burp.

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-Are these your wedding rings?
-Yeah.

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-Do you have one?
-Yeah.

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That's what happens when you're
married to the best man in the world.

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I wanna hear your thoughts

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about how you came to know
you were to be his wife.

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I knew that the Heavenly Father
wanted me to come be a part of his family.

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This is where I wanna be,
so that's why I'm here.

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I know that, like, he is
my only connection to Heavenly Father.

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I cannot get
to Heavenly Father without him.

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I have to have him.

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It's pretty powerful.

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-Your eternal life is in his hands?
-Mm-hmm.

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Had you already told
your mother and father?

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My father knew about it when he called me.

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How did you find out?

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She came and told me.

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There is one man on this earth I trust,
and that is Samuel Bateman.

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Samuel has come to wake us up to where…

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where we're headed if we don't obey.

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We're gonna head now.

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Tell Samuel it was very successful.

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See you.

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Does it seem to you
that all those ladies love him?

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They don't love him.

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I mean, it's like… Ugh!

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-I mean, that…
-Remember, when you're undercover…

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you have to put your…
you have to compartmentalize.

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I mean, those girls trust you.

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More important that he's trusting you.
You know what I mean?

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That's… You gotta keep that going.

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What do you think
about the mothers of these girls?

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The older ones have some problems,
but they deal with it, you know?

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Looking at all the girls there
that were Julia's…

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Yeah.

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All of a sudden, she has an empty nest

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because Samuel has taken
all her daughters.

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That's fucked up.

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All of those children,

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Julia thought
she was gonna continue raising.

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She didn't expect to lose **** at age ten.

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-You know?
-Yeah.

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My heart really breaks for her.

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-For Julia, yeah.
-Yeah.

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This is such a fictional world.

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People didn't just jump into the situation

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with just open arms.

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My husband, Moroni,
and I had been married for over 25 years.

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And we didn't have any communication
with the prophet Warren Jeffs

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for many years.

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Not having church leadership
just right there to counsel with,

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it was hard.

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So I would ask questions to Moroni.

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Nothin' worth… worth anything
in this life is easy.

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Women are taught to submit to the men.

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And as the father,
he was the ruling power over our family.

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And so when Moroni started following Sam,

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that made me make that change too.

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And so, many of my sister-wives
and all of my daughters went to Sam.

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Some people do those fancy braids,
but I never learned how to do 'em.

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I did question the things we were doin'.

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But I said, well, maybe there's something
I'm not comprehending or understanding,

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and if I'll just hang on,
I can better understand it.

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Because I felt like he wouldn't

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ask me to do something
that would be harmful to myself

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or destructive to our family.

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So keep this very, very confidential.

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It became clear
that if I wanted real information,

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I would have to talk to somebody
who was not under Sam's control.

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We have things to talk about.

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Moroni had a son named Warren Levi,
who did not support Sam.

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He was very worried
about his mother and his sisters

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and agreed to secretly meet with me.

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Starting in 2019,

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Sam married seven of my sisters
ranging in age from 20-ish

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down to nine years old.

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Married is just a phrase to say that

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Sam currently can do whatever he pleases…

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-Right.
-…with the girls.

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Did you ever see
Sam kiss the underage girls?

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Yes.

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Oh my goodness.

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There was none of 'em that went easy
to get married to Sam. Not one of 'em.

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Every one of 'em
referred to him as the devil.

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I remember Sam came to me, and he's like,

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"The Lord has told me
that your little sister belongs to me."

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But I was like, "She's nine years old.
She's not ready for this mentally."

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But we've been taught
to respect our fathers.

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Don't question.

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The girls trust Moroni,

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and Moroni is owned by Sam Bateman.

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There you go.

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I knew the parallel
between every one of the prophets

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and… President Samuel R. Bateman.

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That's powerful stuff.

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I started spending a lot of time
with Sam's male followers.

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Especially Moroni.

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I'm learning from you.

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I wanted to understand why he's convinced
that Sam is speaking for God.

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How do you know
Samuel is the true prophet of God?

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I knew he had a position
before Heavenly Father that was above me.

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I… I could tell.

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All of a sudden,
Sam felt this and that and whatever?

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Oh, Tolga, this thing is so deep.

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Oh.

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About eight months before
Sam named himself the prophet,

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Moroni started doing his own thinking.

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It's a time no one was supposed to be

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getting married, having babies.

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But Moroni started taking new wives

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and having children
without the blessings of Warren Jeffs.

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He was shunned by the town.

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He didn't know,
would he ever be FLDS again?

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I mean, that was his culture,

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his lifelong investment.

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He felt like
he had really sinned against God.

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We're in a hell of a fix.

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We say we know the spirit of God,

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but I've dabbled.

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We're gonna get
the shit whipped out of us.

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Moroni, he thinks, "I'm going to hell."

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"Life is over."

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But Sam, who now represents himself
as speaking for Warren Jeffs,

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starts embracing Moroni.

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He's offering a path
to salvation, basically.

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Sam was putting him
and his family up on a pedestal.

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Hi, son.

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-I'm trying to hide, yeah.
-I know, but you gotta catch me first.

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Ahh!

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Moroni's like, "I have a second chance."

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At that point, Sam becomes God to Moroni.

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No man chose Samuel Rappylee Bateman.

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God hath done it.

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Sam had no reservations now

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about commanding that people obey him.

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Moroni would take his money,

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give everything to Sam,

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and then Sam wanted more
and more and more.

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Like Moroni's wives and daughters.

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-Yeah…
-Is that still recording?

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Yeah, sorry.

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We actually are borrowing someone's car

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so nobody can recognize our car.

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Oh, good.

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Come, and there's a house
with a white fence all the way around it.

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Okay.

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We'll just sit here quietly.

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I was looking to talk
to somebody that was on the inside

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who had talked to the girls one-on-one.

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Hey, I'm in the black car. Come on out.

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You're putting your beams
in somebody's bedroom.

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There was an FLDS lady

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who was related
to all of the people who followed Sam

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in one way or another.

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She was really concerned
about what was going on.

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He has 'em so flippin' mixed up,
it's not funny.

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There are children
being sexually molested.

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It just doesn't make sense.

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Why does a girl have to get ruined
before she can get help?

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He is a predator.

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Using everything that they've been taught

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and turning it.

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Yep.

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When he goes and digs into the scriptures,
and he tries to manipulate things

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and twist them to capture their purity.

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And they don't realize.

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I just, like…

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Inside I really am grateful, but like…

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…like, there's all this selfishness.

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That's why you have to exert
that positive energy, and it goes away.

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Exert it, fervently.

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-Okay?
-Okay.

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-And then just cheer up, babe.
-Okay.

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Thanks.

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Naomi, who we call "Nomz,"

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was always next to Sam.

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She only thinks
what he's planted in there.

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She doesn't even have

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a mind of her own anymore.

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She had been harassed to no end,

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and she finally got to the point
where she was exhausted,

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and she gave in.

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Oh boy.

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Nomz's aunt said,

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"I really don't know

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how this is gonna end up."

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She's seen the battle
that Nomz has mentally fought.

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It'll last forever.

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I don't mind that.

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My niece Naomi married Sam.

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It was really heartbreaking to my sister.

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Nomz, she was under a lot of pressure

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to go be part of Sam's family.

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-You're wife number…?
-I'm 13.

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-You're 13. Okay.
-Wife number 13.

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Okay.

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It was Ladell Jr.

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who brought her
into the Sam Bateman group.

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What's your relation to Ladell?

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-He's my cousin.
-Oh, he's your cousin.

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Yeah, and he was also, like,
my caretaker for ten years.

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Since Nomz was very young,

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Lud took care of her family.

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She really idolized Lud.

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And when he started
to get in cahoots with Sam,

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he wanted Nomz to be

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a part of Sam's thing.

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Her mom tried really hard
to talk her out of it.

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But Nomz respected and loved Lud.

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He's like, "I feel impressed that
you should come out and listen to Samuel."

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Father Samuel, he said,

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"Heavenly Father impressed me
to tell you that you belong in my family."

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And like, I went, like, stone-cold.

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Like, "No way. There goes my whole life.
There goes everything."

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I mean…

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Ladell would talk to her,
and he would send her texts.

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It took a very long time to convince her.

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It wasn't till, like, November
that I actually got married.

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But once I had committed,
like, submitted myself to it

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was when Heavenly Father
gave me the courage and the strength.

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She'd been coerced
and kind of manipulated into it.

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I mean, I was like, this has to be right.

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If it's not right, what is?

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I would like to know.

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I've lived my entire life
not knowing what the right thing is,

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and I wanna know what is right.

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So,

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Naomi, did you make the right decision?

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I did.

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The only thing I regret
is that I didn't go sooner.

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-Really? Wow.
-That's the only thing I regret in life.

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We groomed our girls for this.

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We're not teaching them
to question authority.

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We're not teaching them
to be critical thinkers.

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We're teaching 'em strict obedience.

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What do you think
represents you guys really well?

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Class. Probably.

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I don't know. What you think?

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-Yeah.
-When do you do class next?

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-We can do it right now.
-Let's do it.

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Sam did a lot of trainings.

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Hours and hours and hours of class.

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And they became
more bizarre by the minute.

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Good.

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Anyway, I was just explaining

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that, uh, goals…

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Goals are so important.

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So write down your goals.
We actually have--

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I don't have mine with me,
but we have goal cards.

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Pull out your goal cards, would ya?

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-I'd love to hear some of your goals.
-Yes.

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My goals are to be
the most influential person on Earth.

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Mm-hmm.

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And to… govern North and South America
and probably England.

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Okay.

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And to bring
the Queen of England to my home.

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And I believe that
that's part of my mission.

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But she's not gonna come
to this chicken coop.

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She just ain't.

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Wow.

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Get the house, would you? Real quick.

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This is what I've drawn up here.

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"Coming soon!"

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One of the most beautiful homes
I've ever seen, and I know it'll happen.

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-That's beautiful. Did you get that?
-I got it.

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That was weird.

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He's building this fantasy world

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with all these followers.

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These are things
we're envisioning as time goes on.

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Things that we…
Some of 'em, we already have.

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Oh!

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And then he also started
putting things on YouTube.

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Hi. Samuel Bateman here.

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Hi. Samuel Bateman here.

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I want to make a channel where I can
help other people take a step up.

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All the extremely rich people say is,
"Find a mentor."

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He was following these self-help gurus,

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and he would regurgitate what he learned.

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"Your word is your bond"
is really how you should think.

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When you make that commitment
or say something, make sure you do it.

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I've been talking
every day in our classes.

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Don't think negative thoughts. Don't think
that something's gonna go wrong.

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It literally will draw it to you.

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Yeah, for sure.

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Everything he said and did,

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I had to act like everything's okay.
We're cool with it.

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Surround yourself with great people.

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That's why I like to be around you guys.

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Feelings are mutual.

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I'm so grateful for what Christine does.

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She… She just loves people.

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She was going over there a lot.

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There were people who thought

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that Christine was there
supporting him and helping him.

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Precious.

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Truly a daughter of the king.

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There were a lot of people
accusing her of empowering him.

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Are you serious?

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I couldn't defend myself.

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I couldn't come out with the fact
that I was playing a role

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because my plan, it was working.

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This is recording, and this is recording.

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They started being a little more loose
with the things they would say.

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Okay, whoever has the mic.

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Forgive me for asking,

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but how did you get a crash course
in the birds and the bees

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between the time you got married?

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He ended up telling me.
I was innocent as heck.

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So Samuel himself taught you?

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How old are you?

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Fifteen.

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There's no such thing
as an underage marriage in the priesthood.

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The Lord can tell,

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and why would he hold the 15-year-old back
from the blessings, if she's ready?

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They were talking openly
about the sexual activity

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that Sam was doing
with the underage girls.

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He had made it seem

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so sacred and…

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Mm-hmm.

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…like, celestial.
I don't know how else to put it.

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And he said it brings such an increase,
like, of the spirit of God.

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That resulted in another call
to the police.

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Christine is telling the local police,
"This is human trafficking."

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The local police said, "Just give us
everything you have. We'll look at it."

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They went through it for months.
Nothing happens.

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-We are flying very close to the sun.
-Yeah.

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We get no guidance at all.

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And I wish

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that I could discuss what our strategy is

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with somebody in law enforcement,

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and I mean, we're sitting around
shooting from the hip,

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and I… I feel so alone.

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God, those girls.

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I'd be filming something,

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and there's always two or three girls
in the back, completely destroyed.

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You could just see them crying.

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The law wants you
to basically get in bed with them

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and film it before the guy's arrested.

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I mean, what kind of fucking shit is that?

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It was like Sam felt like he had

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all authority to do whatever he wanted.

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I think he felt like
that he was unstoppable.

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I don't know, do you feel
forced to be here or anything?

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No.

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No? Are you lying?

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No.

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How do you know
that I'm not just deceiving you?

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Sam was very clever

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because he married
some of the mothers of the child brides.

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So when Child and Family Services
interviewed them,

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he could say, "The mothers are here too."

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Did you know that the CPS has been here,
and they didn't find anything?

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Of course not.

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We're not doing wrong.

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I've covered virtually every significant

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and not-so-significant bad guy
in this story.

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I don't know a single individual

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that has set off more flares,
waved more red flags

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than Samuel Bateman.

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I became acquainted
with Christine and Tolga,

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and I knew what they were doing,

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but they're not cops.

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If that's what law enforcement needs
to bust a case,

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getting a documentary crew inside,

28:50.812 --> 28:53.773
and they still don't act
with any sense of urgency…

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This is Sergeant David Wilkinson

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with the Colorado City Marshal's Office.

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Please leave me a detailed voice message.
Thank you.

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There were so many things
that I didn't know.

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I didn't know how to proceed.

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And I was incredibly scared

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of what was
really happening in Sam's house.

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What is going on when we're not there?

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What abuse could be stopped?

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I called Sergeant Wilkinson
a number of times.

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Hello, Christine.

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Christine Marie kept feeding us
information that she gathered,

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and so I was working
desperately to follow up

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on each of the pieces of information

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to make sure that we established

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and could support
everything we presented to a prosecutor.

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And as some would say,
tie it up in a pretty little bow.

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Again, this is still a work in progress.

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And I let him know

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I thought the FBI should be involved.

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He said the FBI requires,
you know, multi-state criminal activity.

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And I said, "Well, we have it."

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We went to Colorado.

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-You did?
-We went to Lincoln, Nebraska.

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-Nebraska? Why Nebraska?
-It was just where Moroni was inspired.

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Oh, Moroni. Yeah. Got it.

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There's Lincoln, Nebraska.
There's Monument, Colorado.

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There's Utah and Arizona.

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It was interstate human trafficking.

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And eventually,

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my pestering did have a positive effect.

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Hello, Christine.

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Hi.

30:48.179 --> 30:52.725
Sergeant Wilkinson called me and said,
"I have some news you're gonna like."

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"We're going to have a meeting,

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and we would like you to do a presentation

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on what you know
about the Sam Bateman group."

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So are you okay
with 2:30 to the FBI field office?

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Yes.

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You're gonna be meeting
with a Dawn Martin out of Flagstaff.

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I want to video journal
where we're going right now.

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Tolga and I are on the way
to talk to the FBI.

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It's complicated
because, like, two hours ago,

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many of these girls were at my house.

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If they know
that I am the one turning stuff in,

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then they will never trust
an outsider again.

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Well, this is what you do, baby.
You're trying to stop child rape.

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-This is no joke.
-I have to speak up. There's not a choice.

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That's what I'm saying.
So you don't have a choice.

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When we went to the FBI office,

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I spoke to FBI agent Dawn Martin.

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By the time this case was presented to me,

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I had been with the Bureau 18 years.

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I had spent the previous ten years
working child sex crimes.

32:25.526 --> 32:28.613
This case was brought to us
by local law enforcement.

32:28.696 --> 32:31.532
They told me about Christine and Tolga,

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who had lived in the community
for several years

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and had provided these video recordings.

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My understanding is some
of the agencies had incriminating videos

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as early as November of '21.

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I don't know why
it took 'em so long to come to the FBI.

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Christine had spent
evidently many, many months

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trying to get somebody to listen
and to do something.

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The first recording
that I heard was related

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to a November incident in a Bentley.

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There could not be anything worse
than another man screwing my girls.

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When somebody brags
about having young girls

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involved in sex acts with other men,

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how can you not investigate that?

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Okay, it's rolling. Go ahead.

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There were 23 wives,

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nine of which were minor children.

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I realized that it needed
to be taken care of

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and taken care of
in a more expeditious manner.

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I just remember

33:36.723 --> 33:41.477
feeling like finally
somebody is sharing this burden with me.

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Hide that. Hop in.

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We try not to divulge names
of sources or confidential informants,

33:50.153 --> 33:54.782
but I will say that Christine was in
a unique position to provide information.

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Well, I'm going to spend
a lot more time over there.

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-That is my goal.
-Yeah.

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When you start an investigation,

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you do a little bit of a background check,

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and I didn't have any concerns
working so closely with them

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because they were providing
video evidence as raw footage.

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It was definitely
an unusual set of circumstances.

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Not very often do you have somebody

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willing to and wanting to be recorded
all of the time.

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Especially talking about some
of the heinous crimes he was committing.

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But it is very difficult
to prosecute a case

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without someone to testify

34:35.323 --> 34:37.867
that they were the victim of a crime.

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We did not have that.

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I always feel inspired when I come here.

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Christine was putting her all into this.

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Him and them.

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She was there every day.

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-I'm a billionaire.
-You are? Already?

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Put a price on one girl.

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I'm the richest man on Earth

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because Heavenly Father
blessed me with these girls.

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I started to drop hints

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a little more directly.

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Can I make a comment right here?

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Okay, so there's a book
called The Gift of Fear,

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and I actually
would recommend you all read it

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because it's how
to stay safe from predators.

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I asked that because
of my own personal story

35:22.662 --> 35:24.205
because there were actual things

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to help you really spot
people who have bad intentions.

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If somebody ignores when you say no,

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um, that is a red flag.

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That's what I'm saying. Be bold and blunt.

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If you say no, you mean it.

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It's very good
for you guys to be aware of this.

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Somehow we've got to step up out
of this immorality.

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And if there's some way that I could be
used as an instrument to help step up.

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Lift your mind to a loftier spirit.

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-There's something better out there…
-Yeah.

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…than just lusting after women.

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I was hoping that one of the women
would think for themselves.

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And then I started to notice
Julia coming over to my house

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with her little toddler,
visiting the animals.

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I was happy about that because usually

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people who followed Sam
didn't come over alone.

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Well, she came over more than once.

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I even saw her one time
raking leaves in my yard.

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I realized she was coming up
with reasons to come over here.

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Bingo.

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That's when it hit me.

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Julia has something to tell me.

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I mean, I had been dreaming of the moment

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that somebody would come to me.

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I sensed that Christine

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was making herself available.

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I did wonder
if she was the one I could go to

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and ask for this help.

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And then I caught myself, and I'm like,
"There's no way, you cannot say this."

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I said,

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"I want you to know
that anything you tell me,

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I am not gonna tell Sam."

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She starts to tell me some things.

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She was really general.

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She let me know

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there was a lot of suffering going on.

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But she didn't come out
and say anything negative about Sam.

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I thought, "I know exactly what to do."

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I decided it was time
that I tell her my story.

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We went in on her kitchen table,

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and she got out a file box.

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So look at this.

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And she started to tell me a story.

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She started to tell how her mind was led,

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deceitfully, little by little,

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by a false prophet

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to do things

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that she'd have never done ever.

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I too had been deceived.

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I believed
that I was the wife of a prophet.

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My false prophet told me,

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"Obedience is everything."

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"Obedience is the key to eternal life."

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He told me I needed to go through tests.

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It started in small steps.

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I had to sell things
that were very precious to me.

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I complied.

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I had already sacrificed my business.

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And then

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he told me I had to

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be separated from my children.

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Then I had to go

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live among the poor and needy

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and be abased before men.

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I believed that there would be,

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eventually, a divine payoff.

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And that meant I had to do
what he said or risk my soul.

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I was basically sex trafficked.

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One of his directions was

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that he wanted proof
that I was being sexually exploited.

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So…

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somebody, a man,

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took a picture of me.

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Little by little,

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with each test and each rebuke,

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I got more confused.

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I couldn't even recognize myself.

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He said I had to go through tests first

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to be worthy of being a prophet's wife.

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This whole underlined part right here.

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Does that remind you of Samuel?

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Yeah.

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A lot of it does.

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It's just disgusting.

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And I just broke down.

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And I started to just say…

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"…We are in deep trouble with sexual sins

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under this…

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false idea of religion."

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And I knew that to get help,

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I needed to reveal to this woman

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the sickening things I've done

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and been a part of.
I've done