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After I got Sam's confession,

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I gave the audio
to the local police department.

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I say, "I got a bombshell."

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"I have evidence. I have proof.
I have the proof you've been waiting for."

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It was not adultery. It was obedience.

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And I expected, maybe, you know,
within three days I would get a call back.

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You know, "Yep, this is it.
We're gonna go arrest him."

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But it took a while
for the police to get back to us.

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So we kept filming.

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Here we are in the Bentley
with the man with the plan.

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Wow, what an interior.
I love it. The white jacket and the tan.

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I would ask questions
to try to get more information.

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So, I'm sorry
that I'm not educated in this.

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That's all right.

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But it was revealed to you,
what to do to save them?

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All I know is I was sitting
in one of our meetings one morning,

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and I was like, "Holy shit."

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And I said, "I will obey."

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'Cause the Lord told me
to… to do this thing.

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So do you think that

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the reason you had to witness it

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was so that you would hurt?

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It is pain.

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They're my sweethearts. There's nothing
on the earth more precious to me

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than the virtue

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of women in general and my own wives.

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I think he wanted somebody to say,
"Wow. You must be the new Messiah,

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that you would hurt like Jesus."

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-I…
-Did you cry?

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I couldn't even cry. I didn't even… I…
I was so shocked, I didn't cry. I don't…

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I don't think.

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Yeah, I did, sorry. I did cry.

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But watch,

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you'll… you'll find out
that God made me a prophet,

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and you'll find out
that people will come back.

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-They'll come begging… me for forgiveness.
-Yeah.

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Do you see more wives joining the family?

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Probably.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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When Christine recorded Sam
talking about the sexual abuse,

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I knew that it had her really worried
and worked up in her feelings

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about what was going on there.

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She was worried about the girls.

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Thank you so much, Christine,
for everything also.

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We love you and God bless you.

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Eventually, I heard back from the police,

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who said that wasn't enough evidence.

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Christine had told me about the recording.

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In that recording,

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Sam talks about adult men
having sex with young women.

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Um, I don't remember
exact wording, obviously. I…

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I haven't listened to it
since I listened to it the first time.

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It's not something
I like to… to burden myself with

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as… as we go through these cases

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because there is a lot
of information that comes

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that… that hurts a gentle heart.

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We had a tape.

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We had Christine Marie,

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who could testify
that she created the tape.

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-Do you feel unclean?
-No.

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There was not wickedness.

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Based on this single tape,

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I didn't have enough for a warrant.

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What was missing was the finer elements.

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There was more evidence needed

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before we could start

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knocking at the hornet's nest,
if you will.

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What we know

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and what we can prove
beyond a reasonable doubt

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are two very different things.

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-Hey, darlin'.
-Hello.

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I talked to the investigator
to find out what they thought

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after listening to the evidence.

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-Yes?
-But nope.

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Oh my gosh.

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Even though the tape
was strong, Sam could deny it.

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Wow.

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In the meantime,

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he's just the cruelest bastard
I've ever met.

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Yeah.

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I was worried for my mom.

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At the time,

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my mom was at risk
of going to a darker and darker place

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because of her firsthand experience
following someone like Sam Bateman.

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Never judge. 'Cause I've been there.

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I lost everything.

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I was scammed, and I was, like,
uh, almost not here anymore.

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I lost everything to being, uh…
to not understanding

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who is… who to trust and who not to trust.

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Predators have just
always been drawn to her

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'cause she really sees the best in people.

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She sees the best in people to a fault.

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Ugh, scary.

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I was worried for her, but I also knew
that she was the only one

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who could actually get him put in jail.

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And to do that,

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she would have to go even deeper.

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I don't know.
Is that how it's supposed to be?

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Underneath the collar?

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Like, if we put it under the collar,
then it's not seen.

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-Okay, so do you want me to start?
-Yeah. Yeah.

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Okay, once upon a time…

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…many, many moons ago…

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While we were filming,

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I was trying to get to know the girls more

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and to understand
the women in Sam's group.

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One person at a time?

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Okay, start with your name.

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We call her Mother Anna.

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I changed her name,
and she didn't even get mad at me.

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Ah.

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How did you go to Samuel?

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In 2019.

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I was 22, and nobody
was gettin' married, you know.

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-Our people weren't havin' children.
-Yeah.

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But then my parents
started having children again.

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So I felt like
it was the right thing to do.

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Yeah, I can understand that.

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Okay, Mother Shiny,
we're ready to hear some stuff.

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To just have the impression
and go to a man

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was completely against our traditions.

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And yet, in my mind, I wanted to do it
because I wanted a baby so dang bad.

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And Samuel's name, it came into my mind.

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It said, "You belong to him."
This thing in the back of my mind.

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-He did? Oh…
-No, in the back of my mind.

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-It was a still, small voice.
-A still, small voice.

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-But it shook you to the very center.
-Yeah, it was very clear.

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"You are a part

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of the greatest events in history."

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I know it's gonna sound weird,
but the spirit of God tells me to tell you

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that there was a power that linked
everything through the whole universe.

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I don't know why
the Lord opened my eyes to see,

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but I did.

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This is… This is real. It's a real thing.

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Am I wrong?

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-No.
-No.

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I… I'm not wrong.

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I knew they were putting on a show,

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but I didn't know exactly
what was going on behind the scenes.

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Hello, Christine.

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Um, some of the girls were saying
that you wanted to hear more testimonies.

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Is that true or…?

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You bet it is.

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It's so inspiring to hear them,
and I think it serves you well.

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I was not permitted
to be alone with the underage girls.

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How are you?

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But Sam started sending
his wives over to my house

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because he wanted us to film
these storytelling testimony sessions

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for the documentary.

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Yay!

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He wanted to capture
how much his girls love him.

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Let's do it.

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Do you guys want to, um, eat…
eat while she's talking?

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Just… Just don't burp.

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-Are these your wedding rings?
-Yeah.

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-Do you have one?
-Yeah.

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That's what happens when you're
married to the best man in the world.

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I wanna hear your thoughts

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about how you came to know
you were to be his wife.

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I knew that the Heavenly Father
wanted me to come be a part of his family.

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This is where I wanna be,
so that's why I'm here.

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I know that, like, he is
my only connection to Heavenly Father.

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I cannot get
to Heavenly Father without him.

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I have to have him.

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It's pretty powerful.

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-Your eternal life is in his hands?
-Mm-hmm.

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Had you already told
your mother and father?

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My father knew about it when he called me.

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How did you find out?

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She came and told me.

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There is one man on this earth I trust,
and that is Samuel Bateman.

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Samuel has come to wake us up to where…

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where we're headed if we don't obey.

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We're gonna head now.

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Tell Samuel it was very successful.

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See you.

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Does it seem to you
that all those ladies love him?

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They don't love him.

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I mean, it's like… Ugh!

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-I mean, that…
-Remember, when you're undercover…

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you have to put your…
you have to compartmentalize.

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I mean, those girls trust you.

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More important that he's trusting you.
You know what I mean?

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That's… You gotta keep that going.

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What do you think
about the mothers of these girls?

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The older ones have some problems,
but they deal with it, you know?

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Looking at all the girls there
that were Julia's…

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Yeah.

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All of a sudden, she has an empty nest

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because Samuel has taken
all her daughters.

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That's fucked up.

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All of those children,

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Julia thought
she was gonna continue raising.

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She didn't expect to lose **** at age ten.

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-You know?
-Yeah.

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My heart really breaks for her.

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-For Julia, yeah.
-Yeah.

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This is such a fictional world.

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People didn't just jump into the situation

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with just open arms.

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My husband, Moroni,
and I had been married for over 25 years.

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And we didn't have any communication
with the prophet Warren Jeffs

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for many years.

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Not having church leadership
just right there to counsel with,

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it was hard.

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So I would ask questions to Moroni.

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Nothin' worth… worth anything
in this life is easy.

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Women are taught to submit to the men.

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And as the father,
he was the ruling power over our family.

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And so when Moroni started following Sam,

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that made me make that change too.

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And so, many of my sister-wives
and all of my daughters went to Sam.

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Some people do those fancy braids,
but I never learned how to do 'em.

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I did question the things we were doin'.

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But I said, well, maybe there's something
I'm not comprehending or understanding,

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and if I'll just hang on,
I can better understand it.

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Because I felt like he wouldn't

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ask me to do something
that would be harmful to myself

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or destructive to our family.

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So keep this very, very confidential.

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It became clear
that if I wanted real information,

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I would have to talk to somebody
who was not under Sam's control.

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We have things to talk about.

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Moroni had a son named Warren Levi,
who did not support Sam.

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He was very worried
about his mother and his sisters

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and agreed to secretly meet with me.

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Starting in 2019,

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Sam married seven of my sisters
ranging in age from 20-ish

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down to nine years old.

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Married is just a phrase to say that

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Sam currently can do whatever he pleases…

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-Right.
-…with the girls.

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Did you ever see
Sam kiss the underage girls?

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Yes.

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Oh my goodness.

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There was none of 'em that went easy
to get married to Sam. Not one of 'em.

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Every one of 'em
referred to him as the devil.

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I remember Sam came to me, and he's like,

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"The Lord has told me
that your little sister belongs to me."

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But I was like, "She's nine years old.
She's not ready for this mentally."

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But we've been taught
to respect our fathers.

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Don't question.

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The girls trust Moroni,

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and Moroni is owned by Sam Bateman.

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There you go.

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I knew the parallel
between every one of the prophets

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and… President Samuel R. Bateman.

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That's powerful stuff.

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I started spending a lot of time
with Sam's male followers.

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Especially Moroni.

00:14:36.625 --> 00:14:38.002 align:center
I'm learning from you.

00:14:38.877 --> 00:14:44.425 align:center
I wanted to understand why he's convinced
that Sam is speaking for God.

00:14:45.009 --> 00:14:47.970 align:center
How do you know
Samuel is the true prophet of God?

00:14:48.596 --> 00:14:52.474 align:center
I knew he had a position
before Heavenly Father that was above me.

00:14:52.558 --> 00:14:53.517 align:center
I… I could tell.

00:14:54.143 --> 00:14:57.354 align:center
All of a sudden,
Sam felt this and that and whatever?

00:14:57.855 --> 00:15:00.065 align:center
Oh, Tolga, this thing is so deep.

00:15:01.483 --> 00:15:02.443 align:center
Oh.

00:15:04.987 --> 00:15:09.909 align:center
About eight months before
Sam named himself the prophet,

00:15:09.992 --> 00:15:12.620 align:center
Moroni started doing his own thinking.

00:15:14.413 --> 00:15:17.541 align:center
It's a time no one was supposed to be

00:15:17.625 --> 00:15:19.752 align:center
getting married, having babies.

00:15:20.753 --> 00:15:23.547 align:center
But Moroni started taking new wives

00:15:23.631 --> 00:15:28.177 align:center
and having children
without the blessings of Warren Jeffs.

00:15:29.678 --> 00:15:32.139 align:center
He was shunned by the town.

00:15:34.516 --> 00:15:37.728 align:center
He didn't know,
would he ever be FLDS again?

00:15:37.811 --> 00:15:39.563 align:center
I mean, that was his culture,

00:15:40.147 --> 00:15:42.024 align:center
his lifelong investment.

00:15:43.734 --> 00:15:46.737 align:center
He felt like
he had really sinned against God.

00:15:47.821 --> 00:15:49.823 align:center
We're in a hell of a fix.

00:15:49.907 --> 00:15:51.950 align:center
We say we know the spirit of God,

00:15:52.493 --> 00:15:53.619 align:center
but I've dabbled.

00:15:54.411 --> 00:15:56.914 align:center
We're gonna get
the shit whipped out of us.

00:15:57.665 --> 00:16:01.335 align:center
Moroni, he thinks, "I'm going to hell."

00:16:02.544 --> 00:16:03.712 align:center
"Life is over."

00:16:06.131 --> 00:16:11.303 align:center
But Sam, who now represents himself
as speaking for Warren Jeffs,

00:16:11.387 --> 00:16:13.973 align:center
starts embracing Moroni.

00:16:14.515 --> 00:16:16.809 align:center
He's offering a path
to salvation, basically.

00:16:24.316 --> 00:16:27.653 align:center
Sam was putting him
and his family up on a pedestal.

00:16:27.736 --> 00:16:29.446 align:center
Hi, son.

00:16:30.406 --> 00:16:33.826 align:center
-I'm trying to hide, yeah.
-I know, but you gotta catch me first.

00:16:33.909 --> 00:16:34.868 align:center
Ahh!

00:16:35.786 --> 00:16:37.788 align:center
Moroni's like, "I have a second chance."

00:16:38.997 --> 00:16:41.834 align:center
At that point, Sam becomes God to Moroni.

00:16:42.876 --> 00:16:46.130 align:center
No man chose Samuel Rappylee Bateman.

00:16:48.799 --> 00:16:50.050 align:center
God hath done it.

00:16:51.385 --> 00:16:54.388 align:center
Sam had no reservations now

00:16:54.471 --> 00:16:57.933 align:center
about commanding that people obey him.

00:17:02.312 --> 00:17:03.981 align:center
Moroni would take his money,

00:17:04.064 --> 00:17:05.941 align:center
give everything to Sam,

00:17:06.024 --> 00:17:09.194 align:center
and then Sam wanted more
and more and more.

00:17:09.778 --> 00:17:11.780 align:center
Like Moroni's wives and daughters.

00:17:17.619 --> 00:17:19.663 align:center
-Yeah…
-Is that still recording?

00:17:19.747 --> 00:17:20.581 align:center
Yeah, sorry.

00:17:27.337 --> 00:17:29.548 align:center
We actually are borrowing someone's car

00:17:29.631 --> 00:17:31.800 align:center
so nobody can recognize our car.

00:17:31.884 --> 00:17:32.885 align:center
Oh, good.

00:17:32.968 --> 00:17:36.805 align:center
Come, and there's a house
with a white fence all the way around it.

00:17:36.889 --> 00:17:37.890 align:center
Okay.

00:17:37.973 --> 00:17:40.684 align:center
We'll just sit here quietly.

00:17:40.768 --> 00:17:44.605 align:center
I was looking to talk
to somebody that was on the inside

00:17:44.688 --> 00:17:47.024 align:center
who had talked to the girls one-on-one.

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Hey, I'm in the black car. Come on out.

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You're putting your beams
in somebody's bedroom.

00:17:57.076 --> 00:17:59.328 align:center
There was an FLDS lady

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who was related
to all of the people who followed Sam

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in one way or another.

00:18:04.500 --> 00:18:07.795 align:center
She was really concerned
about what was going on.

00:18:08.754 --> 00:18:11.548 align:center
He has 'em so flippin' mixed up,
it's not funny.

00:18:11.632 --> 00:18:14.218 align:center
There are children
being sexually molested.

00:18:14.301 --> 00:18:15.677 align:center
It just doesn't make sense.

00:18:15.761 --> 00:18:18.138 align:center
Why does a girl have to get ruined
before she can get help?

00:18:18.764 --> 00:18:19.848 align:center
He is a predator.

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Using everything that they've been taught

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and turning it.

00:18:24.686 --> 00:18:25.521 align:center
Yep.

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When he goes and digs into the scriptures,
and he tries to manipulate things

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and twist them to capture their purity.

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And they don't realize.

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I just, like…

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Inside I really am grateful, but like…

00:18:41.370 --> 00:18:43.705 align:center
…like, there's all this selfishness.

00:18:43.789 --> 00:18:46.834 align:center
That's why you have to exert
that positive energy, and it goes away.

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Exert it, fervently.

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-Okay?
-Okay.

00:18:51.964 --> 00:18:54.174 align:center
-And then just cheer up, babe.
-Okay.

00:18:54.258 --> 00:18:55.175 align:center
Thanks.

00:18:56.260 --> 00:18:58.220 align:center
Naomi, who we call "Nomz,"

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was always next to Sam.

00:19:01.849 --> 00:19:04.434 align:center
She only thinks
what he's planted in there.

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She doesn't even have

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a mind of her own anymore.

00:19:10.607 --> 00:19:12.609 align:center
She had been harassed to no end,

00:19:12.693 --> 00:19:15.988 align:center
and she finally got to the point
where she was exhausted,

00:19:16.071 --> 00:19:17.447 align:center
and she gave in.

00:19:17.531 --> 00:19:18.532 align:center
Oh boy.

00:19:18.615 --> 00:19:19.825 align:center
Nomz's aunt said,

00:19:19.908 --> 00:19:22.411 align:center
"I really don't know

00:19:22.911 --> 00:19:24.454 align:center
how this is gonna end up."

00:19:25.080 --> 00:19:28.083 align:center
She's seen the battle
that Nomz has mentally fought.

00:19:29.084 --> 00:19:30.377 align:center
It'll last forever.

00:19:30.961 --> 00:19:32.796 align:center
I don't mind that.

00:19:34.715 --> 00:19:37.134 align:center
My niece Naomi married Sam.

00:19:37.801 --> 00:19:41.513 align:center
It was really heartbreaking to my sister.

00:19:42.639 --> 00:19:45.392 align:center
Nomz, she was under a lot of pressure

00:19:45.475 --> 00:19:48.061 align:center
to go be part of Sam's family.

00:19:50.147 --> 00:19:52.149 align:center
-You're wife number…?
-I'm 13.

00:19:52.232 --> 00:19:54.318 align:center
-You're 13. Okay.
-Wife number 13.

00:19:54.401 --> 00:19:55.402 align:center
Okay.

00:19:56.778 --> 00:19:58.864 align:center
It was Ladell Jr.

00:19:58.947 --> 00:20:01.450 align:center
who brought her
into the Sam Bateman group.

00:20:01.950 --> 00:20:03.994 align:center
What's your relation to Ladell?

00:20:04.077 --> 00:20:05.871 align:center
-He's my cousin.
-Oh, he's your cousin.

00:20:05.954 --> 00:20:10.334 align:center
Yeah, and he was also, like,
my caretaker for ten years.

00:20:11.084 --> 00:20:13.587 align:center
Since Nomz was very young,

00:20:14.171 --> 00:20:16.298 align:center
Lud took care of her family.

00:20:17.758 --> 00:20:20.010 align:center
She really idolized Lud.

00:20:22.054 --> 00:20:25.807 align:center
And when he started
to get in cahoots with Sam,

00:20:26.725 --> 00:20:28.936 align:center
he wanted Nomz to be

00:20:30.270 --> 00:20:32.147 align:center
a part of Sam's thing.

00:20:33.106 --> 00:20:35.943 align:center
Her mom tried really hard
to talk her out of it.

00:20:37.611 --> 00:20:40.530 align:center
But Nomz respected and loved Lud.

00:20:41.323 --> 00:20:45.077 align:center
He's like, "I feel impressed that
you should come out and listen to Samuel."

00:20:45.577 --> 00:20:47.329 align:center
Father Samuel, he said,

00:20:47.412 --> 00:20:51.083 align:center
"Heavenly Father impressed me
to tell you that you belong in my family."

00:20:51.583 --> 00:20:55.295 align:center
And like, I went, like, stone-cold.

00:20:55.379 --> 00:20:58.966 align:center
Like, "No way. There goes my whole life.
There goes everything."

00:20:59.049 --> 00:20:59.967 align:center
I mean…

00:21:00.550 --> 00:21:03.762 align:center
Ladell would talk to her,
and he would send her texts.

00:21:05.055 --> 00:21:07.474 align:center
It took a very long time to convince her.

00:21:08.767 --> 00:21:11.937 align:center
It wasn't till, like, November
that I actually got married.

00:21:12.020 --> 00:21:17.192 align:center
But once I had committed,
like, submitted myself to it

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was when Heavenly Father
gave me the courage and the strength.

00:21:21.613 --> 00:21:26.284 align:center
She'd been coerced
and kind of manipulated into it.

00:21:27.703 --> 00:21:30.831 align:center
I mean, I was like, this has to be right.

00:21:30.914 --> 00:21:33.041 align:center
If it's not right, what is?

00:21:33.125 --> 00:21:34.376 align:center
I would like to know.

00:21:34.876 --> 00:21:38.297 align:center
I've lived my entire life
not knowing what the right thing is,

00:21:38.380 --> 00:21:39.840 align:center
and I wanna know what is right.

00:21:39.923 --> 00:21:40.882 align:center
So,

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Naomi, did you make the right decision?

00:21:44.720 --> 00:21:46.346 align:center
I did.

00:21:48.098 --> 00:21:50.684 align:center
The only thing I regret
is that I didn't go sooner.

00:21:50.767 --> 00:21:53.478 align:center
-Really? Wow.
-That's the only thing I regret in life.

00:21:54.604 --> 00:21:56.606 align:center
We groomed our girls for this.

00:21:58.025 --> 00:22:00.902 align:center
We're not teaching them
to question authority.

00:22:00.986 --> 00:22:03.405 align:center
We're not teaching them
to be critical thinkers.

00:22:04.197 --> 00:22:06.325 align:center
We're teaching 'em strict obedience.

00:22:15.709 --> 00:22:18.128 align:center
What do you think
represents you guys really well?

00:22:18.211 --> 00:22:20.130 align:center
Class. Probably.

00:22:20.213 --> 00:22:21.548 align:center
I don't know. What you think?

00:22:22.257 --> 00:22:24.551 align:center
-Yeah.
-When do you do class next?

00:22:24.634 --> 00:22:26.845 align:center
-We can do it right now.
-Let's do it.

00:22:27.929 --> 00:22:30.515 align:center
Sam did a lot of trainings.

00:22:31.099 --> 00:22:32.934 align:center
Hours and hours and hours of class.

00:22:33.560 --> 00:22:36.688 align:center
And they became
more bizarre by the minute.

00:22:37.230 --> 00:22:38.106 align:center
Good.

00:22:38.190 --> 00:22:39.900 align:center
Anyway, I was just explaining

00:22:40.400 --> 00:22:42.319 align:center
that, uh, goals…

00:22:42.402 --> 00:22:44.404 align:center
Goals are so important.

00:22:44.488 --> 00:22:46.448 align:center
So write down your goals.
We actually have--

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I don't have mine with me,
but we have goal cards.

00:22:49.117 --> 00:22:50.994 align:center
Pull out your goal cards, would ya?

00:22:51.578 --> 00:22:54.581 align:center
-I'd love to hear some of your goals.
-Yes.

00:22:54.664 --> 00:22:58.377 align:center
My goals are to be
the most influential person on Earth.

00:22:58.460 --> 00:22:59.336 align:center
Mm-hmm.

00:22:59.836 --> 00:23:05.675 align:center
And to… govern North and South America
and probably England.

00:23:05.759 --> 00:23:07.010 align:center
Okay.

00:23:08.095 --> 00:23:10.263 align:center
And to bring
the Queen of England to my home.

00:23:12.557 --> 00:23:15.227 align:center
And I believe that
that's part of my mission.

00:23:16.978 --> 00:23:19.189 align:center
But she's not gonna come
to this chicken coop.

00:23:20.357 --> 00:23:21.274 align:center
She just ain't.

00:23:22.025 --> 00:23:23.026 align:center
Wow.

00:23:23.110 --> 00:23:26.029 align:center
Get the house, would you? Real quick.

00:23:27.364 --> 00:23:29.991 align:center
This is what I've drawn up here.

00:23:30.075 --> 00:23:31.743 align:center
"Coming soon!"

00:23:31.827 --> 00:23:36.039 align:center
One of the most beautiful homes
I've ever seen, and I know it'll happen.

00:23:36.123 --> 00:23:39.167 align:center
-That's beautiful. Did you get that?
-I got it.

00:23:39.751 --> 00:23:41.169 align:center
That was weird.

00:23:42.754 --> 00:23:46.508 align:center
He's building this fantasy world

00:23:46.591 --> 00:23:48.260 align:center
with all these followers.

00:23:48.343 --> 00:23:50.929 align:center
These are things
we're envisioning as time goes on.

00:23:51.012 --> 00:23:53.265 align:center
Things that we…
Some of 'em, we already have.

00:23:53.348 --> 00:23:54.433 align:center
Oh!

00:23:55.517 --> 00:23:59.688 align:center
And then he also started
putting things on YouTube.

00:23:59.771 --> 00:24:01.439 align:center
Hi. Samuel Bateman here.

00:24:01.523 --> 00:24:03.358 align:center
Hi. Samuel Bateman here.

00:24:03.442 --> 00:24:07.821 align:center
I want to make a channel where I can
help other people take a step up.

00:24:07.904 --> 00:24:11.450 align:center
All the extremely rich people say is,
"Find a mentor."

00:24:11.950 --> 00:24:14.286 align:center
He was following these self-help gurus,

00:24:14.369 --> 00:24:16.872 align:center
and he would regurgitate what he learned.

00:24:16.955 --> 00:24:19.666 align:center
"Your word is your bond"
is really how you should think.

00:24:19.749 --> 00:24:22.919 align:center
When you make that commitment
or say something, make sure you do it.

00:24:23.503 --> 00:24:26.465 align:center
I've been talking
every day in our classes.

00:24:26.548 --> 00:24:29.968 align:center
Don't think negative thoughts. Don't think
that something's gonna go wrong.

00:24:30.051 --> 00:24:32.637 align:center
It literally will draw it to you.

00:24:32.721 --> 00:24:33.847 align:center
Yeah, for sure.

00:24:34.931 --> 00:24:36.892 align:center
Everything he said and did,

00:24:36.975 --> 00:24:41.396 align:center
I had to act like everything's okay.
We're cool with it.

00:24:43.148 --> 00:24:45.066 align:center
Surround yourself with great people.

00:24:45.150 --> 00:24:47.152 align:center
That's why I like to be around you guys.

00:24:47.235 --> 00:24:49.905 align:center
Feelings are mutual.

00:24:51.740 --> 00:24:53.742 align:center
I'm so grateful for what Christine does.

00:24:53.825 --> 00:24:55.952 align:center
She… She just loves people.

00:24:57.204 --> 00:25:00.415 align:center
She was going over there a lot.

00:25:03.376 --> 00:25:05.754 align:center
There were people who thought

00:25:06.254 --> 00:25:09.508 align:center
that Christine was there
supporting him and helping him.

00:25:09.591 --> 00:25:10.884 align:center
Precious.

00:25:10.967 --> 00:25:13.053 align:center
Truly a daughter of the king.

00:25:14.471 --> 00:25:18.934 align:center
There were a lot of people
accusing her of empowering him.

00:25:19.976 --> 00:25:21.520 align:center
Are you serious?

00:25:22.103 --> 00:25:23.563 align:center
I couldn't defend myself.

00:25:24.064 --> 00:25:27.817 align:center
I couldn't come out with the fact
that I was playing a role

00:25:29.653 --> 00:25:33.114 align:center
because my plan, it was working.

00:25:34.616 --> 00:25:37.285 align:center
This is recording, and this is recording.

00:25:37.869 --> 00:25:42.207 align:center
They started being a little more loose
with the things they would say.

00:25:43.375 --> 00:25:45.210 align:center
Okay, whoever has the mic.

00:25:45.293 --> 00:25:46.628 align:center
Forgive me for asking,

00:25:46.711 --> 00:25:49.589 align:center
but how did you get a crash course
in the birds and the bees

00:25:49.673 --> 00:25:51.675 align:center
between the time you got married?

00:25:52.175 --> 00:25:54.886 align:center
He ended up telling me.
I was innocent as heck.

00:25:54.970 --> 00:25:56.888 align:center
So Samuel himself taught you?

00:25:56.972 --> 00:25:58.515 align:center
How old are you?

00:25:59.307 --> 00:26:00.267 align:center
Fifteen.

00:26:01.851 --> 00:26:05.188 align:center
There's no such thing
as an underage marriage in the priesthood.

00:26:05.272 --> 00:26:06.356 align:center
The Lord can tell,

00:26:06.439 --> 00:26:11.861 align:center
and why would he hold the 15-year-old back
from the blessings, if she's ready?

00:26:12.654 --> 00:26:16.199 align:center
They were talking openly
about the sexual activity

00:26:16.283 --> 00:26:19.035 align:center
that Sam was doing
with the underage girls.

00:26:19.744 --> 00:26:20.996 align:center
He had made it seem

00:26:22.372 --> 00:26:24.833 align:center
so sacred and…

00:26:24.916 --> 00:26:25.792 align:center
Mm-hmm.

00:26:25.875 --> 00:26:28.878 align:center
…like, celestial.
I don't know how else to put it.

00:26:28.962 --> 00:26:32.299 align:center
And he said it brings such an increase,
like, of the spirit of God.

00:26:33.967 --> 00:26:36.720 align:center
That resulted in another call
to the police.

00:26:36.803 --> 00:26:40.348 align:center
Christine is telling the local police,
"This is human trafficking."

00:26:41.224 --> 00:26:45.103 align:center
The local police said, "Just give us
everything you have. We'll look at it."

00:26:47.772 --> 00:26:50.150 align:center
They went through it for months.
Nothing happens.

00:26:50.233 --> 00:26:53.111 align:center
-We are flying very close to the sun.
-Yeah.

00:26:53.194 --> 00:26:55.030 align:center
We get no guidance at all.

00:26:55.113 --> 00:26:56.448 align:center
And I wish

00:26:56.948 --> 00:27:00.869 align:center
that I could discuss what our strategy is

00:27:00.952 --> 00:27:03.455 align:center
with somebody in law enforcement,

00:27:03.538 --> 00:27:06.541 align:center
and I mean, we're sitting around
shooting from the hip,

00:27:07.334 --> 00:27:09.085 align:center
and I… I feel so alone.

00:27:09.169 --> 00:27:10.712 align:center
God, those girls.

00:27:12.255 --> 00:27:13.923 align:center
I'd be filming something,

00:27:14.674 --> 00:27:18.887 align:center
and there's always two or three girls
in the back, completely destroyed.

00:27:20.805 --> 00:27:22.640 align:center
You could just see them crying.

00:27:23.516 --> 00:27:26.561 align:center
The law wants you
to basically get in bed with them

00:27:27.312 --> 00:27:30.482 align:center
and film it before the guy's arrested.

00:27:30.565 --> 00:27:32.317 align:center
I mean, what kind of fucking shit is that?

00:27:34.778 --> 00:27:36.946 align:center
It was like Sam felt like he had

00:27:37.781 --> 00:27:39.658 align:center
all authority to do whatever he wanted.

00:27:39.741 --> 00:27:42.619 align:center
I think he felt like
that he was unstoppable.

00:27:42.702 --> 00:27:45.664 align:center
I don't know, do you feel
forced to be here or anything?

00:27:45.747 --> 00:27:46.665 align:center
No.

00:27:47.624 --> 00:27:49.584 align:center
No? Are you lying?

00:27:49.668 --> 00:27:50.543 align:center
No.

00:27:51.127 --> 00:27:53.672 align:center
How do you know
that I'm not just deceiving you?

00:27:54.464 --> 00:27:56.132 align:center
Sam was very clever

00:27:56.216 --> 00:28:01.679 align:center
because he married
some of the mothers of the child brides.

00:28:02.305 --> 00:28:05.350 align:center
So when Child and Family Services
interviewed them,

00:28:05.433 --> 00:28:08.061 align:center
he could say, "The mothers are here too."

00:28:08.770 --> 00:28:12.565 align:center
Did you know that the CPS has been here,
and they didn't find anything?

00:28:13.608 --> 00:28:14.651 align:center
Of course not.

00:28:15.485 --> 00:28:16.903 align:center
We're not doing wrong.

00:28:21.157 --> 00:28:24.327 align:center
I've covered virtually every significant

00:28:24.411 --> 00:28:27.163 align:center
and not-so-significant bad guy
in this story.

00:28:27.247 --> 00:28:30.083 align:center
I don't know a single individual

00:28:30.166 --> 00:28:34.170 align:center
that has set off more flares,
waved more red flags

00:28:34.254 --> 00:28:35.380 align:center
than Samuel Bateman.

00:28:37.298 --> 00:28:40.802 align:center
I became acquainted
with Christine and Tolga,

00:28:40.885 --> 00:28:42.971 align:center
and I knew what they were doing,

00:28:43.054 --> 00:28:44.514 align:center
but they're not cops.

00:28:45.265 --> 00:28:48.268 align:center
If that's what law enforcement needs
to bust a case,

00:28:48.351 --> 00:28:50.728 align:center
getting a documentary crew inside,

00:28:50.812 --> 00:28:53.773 align:center
and they still don't act
with any sense of urgency…

00:29:06.286 --> 00:29:08.288 align:center
This is Sergeant David Wilkinson

00:29:08.371 --> 00:29:10.540 align:center
with the Colorado City Marshal's Office.

00:29:10.623 --> 00:29:13.835 align:center
Please leave me a detailed voice message.
Thank you.

00:29:16.004 --> 00:29:19.299 align:center
There were so many things
that I didn't know.

00:29:19.382 --> 00:29:21.092 align:center
I didn't know how to proceed.

00:29:21.593 --> 00:29:23.762 align:center
And I was incredibly scared

00:29:23.845 --> 00:29:27.098 align:center
of what was
really happening in Sam's house.

00:29:28.099 --> 00:29:30.643 align:center
What is going on when we're not there?

00:29:31.895 --> 00:29:33.980 align:center
What abuse could be stopped?

00:29:37.609 --> 00:29:40.820 align:center
I called Sergeant Wilkinson
a number of times.

00:29:40.904 --> 00:29:42.530 align:center
Hello, Christine.

00:29:42.614 --> 00:29:45.867 align:center
Christine Marie kept feeding us
information that she gathered,

00:29:46.701 --> 00:29:49.370 align:center
and so I was working
desperately to follow up

00:29:49.454 --> 00:29:51.456 align:center
on each of the pieces of information

00:29:51.539 --> 00:29:53.666 align:center
to make sure that we established

00:29:53.750 --> 00:29:57.378 align:center
and could support
everything we presented to a prosecutor.

00:29:57.462 --> 00:30:01.174 align:center
And as some would say,
tie it up in a pretty little bow.

00:30:02.300 --> 00:30:05.011 align:center
Again, this is still a work in progress.

00:30:05.094 --> 00:30:07.680 align:center
And I let him know

00:30:07.764 --> 00:30:09.766 align:center
I thought the FBI should be involved.

00:30:09.849 --> 00:30:14.687 align:center
He said the FBI requires,
you know, multi-state criminal activity.

00:30:16.022 --> 00:30:18.817 align:center
And I said, "Well, we have it."

00:30:19.400 --> 00:30:21.110 align:center
We went to Colorado.

00:30:21.194 --> 00:30:23.947 align:center
-You did?
-We went to Lincoln, Nebraska.

00:30:24.030 --> 00:30:27.325 align:center
-Nebraska? Why Nebraska?
-It was just where Moroni was inspired.

00:30:27.408 --> 00:30:29.118 align:center
Oh, Moroni. Yeah. Got it.

00:30:29.744 --> 00:30:32.497 align:center
There's Lincoln, Nebraska.
There's Monument, Colorado.

00:30:32.580 --> 00:30:34.624 align:center
There's Utah and Arizona.

00:30:34.707 --> 00:30:37.502 align:center
It was interstate human trafficking.

00:30:38.503 --> 00:30:40.004 align:center
And eventually,

00:30:40.713 --> 00:30:43.508 align:center
my pestering did have a positive effect.

00:30:45.760 --> 00:30:47.136 align:center
Hello, Christine.

00:30:47.220 --> 00:30:48.096 align:center
Hi.

00:30:48.179 --> 00:30:52.725 align:center
Sergeant Wilkinson called me and said,
"I have some news you're gonna like."

00:30:53.226 --> 00:30:55.728 align:center
"We're going to have a meeting,

00:30:55.812 --> 00:30:58.106 align:center
and we would like you to do a presentation

00:30:58.189 --> 00:31:00.859 align:center
on what you know
about the Sam Bateman group."

00:31:00.942 --> 00:31:06.072 align:center
So are you okay
with 2:30 to the FBI field office?

00:31:06.155 --> 00:31:07.073 align:center
Yes.

00:31:07.156 --> 00:31:11.244 align:center
You're gonna be meeting
with a Dawn Martin out of Flagstaff.

00:31:21.379 --> 00:31:24.132 align:center
I want to video journal
where we're going right now.

00:31:25.258 --> 00:31:29.470 align:center
Tolga and I are on the way
to talk to the FBI.

00:31:31.222 --> 00:31:34.434 align:center
It's complicated
because, like, two hours ago,

00:31:34.517 --> 00:31:37.061 align:center
many of these girls were at my house.

00:31:39.022 --> 00:31:42.692 align:center
If they know
that I am the one turning stuff in,

00:31:43.776 --> 00:31:46.696 align:center
then they will never trust
an outsider again.

00:31:47.322 --> 00:31:50.450 align:center
Well, this is what you do, baby.
You're trying to stop child rape.

00:31:50.533 --> 00:31:53.369 align:center
-This is no joke.
-I have to speak up. There's not a choice.

00:31:53.453 --> 00:31:56.122 align:center
That's what I'm saying.
So you don't have a choice.

00:32:08.384 --> 00:32:10.511 align:center
When we went to the FBI office,

00:32:11.429 --> 00:32:14.557 align:center
I spoke to FBI agent Dawn Martin.

00:32:16.309 --> 00:32:19.062 align:center
By the time this case was presented to me,

00:32:19.145 --> 00:32:20.897 align:center
I had been with the Bureau 18 years.

00:32:20.980 --> 00:32:24.525 align:center
I had spent the previous ten years
working child sex crimes.

00:32:25.526 --> 00:32:28.613 align:center
This case was brought to us
by local law enforcement.

00:32:28.696 --> 00:32:31.532 align:center
They told me about Christine and Tolga,

00:32:31.616 --> 00:32:34.953 align:center
who had lived in the community
for several years

00:32:35.036 --> 00:32:37.455 align:center
and had provided these video recordings.

00:32:38.748 --> 00:32:42.919 align:center
My understanding is some
of the agencies had incriminating videos

00:32:43.002 --> 00:32:45.546 align:center
as early as November of '21.

00:32:46.547 --> 00:32:49.133 align:center
I don't know why
it took 'em so long to come to the FBI.

00:32:50.927 --> 00:32:55.390 align:center
Christine had spent
evidently many, many months

00:32:55.473 --> 00:32:58.726 align:center
trying to get somebody to listen
and to do something.

00:32:59.769 --> 00:33:02.605 align:center
The first recording
that I heard was related

00:33:02.689 --> 00:33:06.067 align:center
to a November incident in a Bentley.

00:33:06.734 --> 00:33:10.947 align:center
There could not be anything worse
than another man screwing my girls.

00:33:11.990 --> 00:33:14.033 align:center
When somebody brags
about having young girls

00:33:14.117 --> 00:33:16.244 align:center
involved in sex acts with other men,

00:33:16.744 --> 00:33:18.788 align:center
how can you not investigate that?

00:33:19.372 --> 00:33:20.832 align:center
Okay, it's rolling. Go ahead.

00:33:20.915 --> 00:33:22.834 align:center
There were 23 wives,

00:33:22.917 --> 00:33:25.086 align:center
nine of which were minor children.

00:33:27.046 --> 00:33:29.215 align:center
I realized that it needed
to be taken care of

00:33:29.298 --> 00:33:32.510 align:center
and taken care of
in a more expeditious manner.

00:33:33.511 --> 00:33:35.388 align:center
I just remember

00:33:36.723 --> 00:33:41.477 align:center
feeling like finally
somebody is sharing this burden with me.

00:33:43.021 --> 00:33:44.147 align:center
Hide that. Hop in.

00:33:45.940 --> 00:33:49.569 align:center
We try not to divulge names
of sources or confidential informants,

00:33:50.153 --> 00:33:54.782 align:center
but I will say that Christine was in
a unique position to provide information.

00:33:55.366 --> 00:33:57.827 align:center
Well, I'm going to spend
a lot more time over there.

00:33:57.910 --> 00:33:59.495 align:center
-That is my goal.
-Yeah.

00:34:00.163 --> 00:34:01.873 align:center
When you start an investigation,

00:34:01.956 --> 00:34:04.083 align:center
you do a little bit of a background check,

00:34:04.167 --> 00:34:07.837 align:center
and I didn't have any concerns
working so closely with them

00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:13.051 align:center
because they were providing
video evidence as raw footage.

00:34:14.385 --> 00:34:16.763 align:center
It was definitely
an unusual set of circumstances.

00:34:16.846 --> 00:34:19.766 align:center
Not very often do you have somebody

00:34:19.849 --> 00:34:23.436 align:center
willing to and wanting to be recorded
all of the time.

00:34:24.979 --> 00:34:29.150 align:center
Especially talking about some
of the heinous crimes he was committing.

00:34:30.359 --> 00:34:33.404 align:center
But it is very difficult
to prosecute a case

00:34:33.488 --> 00:34:35.239 align:center
without someone to testify

00:34:35.323 --> 00:34:37.867 align:center
that they were the victim of a crime.

00:34:38.493 --> 00:34:40.244 align:center
We did not have that.

00:34:41.746 --> 00:34:44.290 align:center
I always feel inspired when I come here.

00:34:46.209 --> 00:34:49.087 align:center
Christine was putting her all into this.

00:34:49.587 --> 00:34:51.089 align:center
Him and them.

00:34:51.756 --> 00:34:53.716 align:center
She was there every day.

00:34:54.467 --> 00:34:57.053 align:center
-I'm a billionaire.
-You are? Already?

00:34:57.136 --> 00:34:58.429 align:center
Put a price on one girl.

00:35:00.098 --> 00:35:01.933 align:center
I'm the richest man on Earth

00:35:02.433 --> 00:35:04.977 align:center
because Heavenly Father
blessed me with these girls.

00:35:05.603 --> 00:35:07.897 align:center
I started to drop hints

00:35:07.980 --> 00:35:09.774 align:center
a little more directly.

00:35:09.857 --> 00:35:11.859 align:center
Can I make a comment right here?

00:35:11.943 --> 00:35:14.445 align:center
Okay, so there's a book
called The Gift of Fear,

00:35:14.529 --> 00:35:16.781 align:center
and I actually
would recommend you all read it

00:35:16.864 --> 00:35:19.534 align:center
because it's how
to stay safe from predators.

00:35:20.201 --> 00:35:22.578 align:center
I asked that because
of my own personal story

00:35:22.662 --> 00:35:24.205 align:center
because there were actual things

00:35:24.288 --> 00:35:27.500 align:center
to help you really spot
people who have bad intentions.

00:35:28.376 --> 00:35:31.629 align:center
If somebody ignores when you say no,

00:35:32.713 --> 00:35:35.174 align:center
um, that is a red flag.

00:35:35.258 --> 00:35:37.635 align:center
That's what I'm saying. Be bold and blunt.

00:35:37.718 --> 00:35:40.763 align:center
If you say no, you mean it.

00:35:40.847 --> 00:35:43.349 align:center
It's very good
for you guys to be aware of this.

00:35:44.600 --> 00:35:48.187 align:center
Somehow we've got to step up out
of this immorality.

00:35:48.855 --> 00:35:52.900 align:center
And if there's some way that I could be
used as an instrument to help step up.

00:35:52.984 --> 00:35:54.443 align:center
Lift your mind to a loftier spirit.

00:35:54.527 --> 00:35:56.362 align:center
-There's something better out there…
-Yeah.

00:35:56.445 --> 00:35:58.865 align:center
…than just lusting after women.

00:36:00.283 --> 00:36:05.663 align:center
I was hoping that one of the women
would think for themselves.

00:36:17.425 --> 00:36:22.805 align:center
And then I started to notice
Julia coming over to my house

00:36:22.889 --> 00:36:25.558 align:center
with her little toddler,
visiting the animals.

00:36:27.560 --> 00:36:30.104 align:center
I was happy about that because usually

00:36:30.188 --> 00:36:32.565 align:center
people who followed Sam
didn't come over alone.

00:36:32.648 --> 00:36:34.775 align:center
Well, she came over more than once.

00:36:38.237 --> 00:36:43.034 align:center
I even saw her one time
raking leaves in my yard.

00:36:44.410 --> 00:36:48.456 align:center
I realized she was coming up
with reasons to come over here.

00:36:52.126 --> 00:36:53.169 align:center
Bingo.

00:36:54.837 --> 00:36:56.339 align:center
That's when it hit me.

00:36:58.299 --> 00:37:01.177 align:center
Julia has something to tell me.

00:37:03.930 --> 00:37:07.058 align:center
I mean, I had been dreaming of the moment

00:37:07.141 --> 00:37:09.018 align:center
that somebody would come to me.

00:37:11.687 --> 00:37:14.732 align:center
I sensed that Christine

00:37:15.775 --> 00:37:17.818 align:center
was making herself available.

00:37:20.154 --> 00:37:23.115 align:center
I did wonder
if she was the one I could go to

00:37:23.616 --> 00:37:25.159 align:center
and ask for this help.

00:37:25.743 --> 00:37:29.622 align:center
And then I caught myself, and I'm like,
"There's no way, you cannot say this."

00:37:30.206 --> 00:37:31.499 align:center
I said,

00:37:31.582 --> 00:37:34.252 align:center
"I want you to know
that anything you tell me,

00:37:34.752 --> 00:37:36.754 align:center
I am not gonna tell Sam."

00:37:38.464 --> 00:37:40.508 align:center
She starts to tell me some things.

00:37:41.509 --> 00:37:42.885 align:center
She was really general.

00:37:43.386 --> 00:37:44.387 align:center
She let me know

00:37:45.638 --> 00:37:47.890 align:center
there was a lot of suffering going on.

00:37:49.058 --> 00:37:52.019 align:center
But she didn't come out
and say anything negative about Sam.

00:37:53.688 --> 00:37:57.024 align:center
I thought, "I know exactly what to do."

00:37:57.525 --> 00:38:02.154 align:center
I decided it was time
that I tell her my story.

00:38:05.992 --> 00:38:07.952 align:center
We went in on her kitchen table,

00:38:09.412 --> 00:38:11.497 align:center
and she got out a file box.

00:38:12.164 --> 00:38:13.457 align:center
So look at this.

00:38:15.334 --> 00:38:17.586 align:center
And she started to tell me a story.

00:38:20.423 --> 00:38:23.634 align:center
She started to tell how her mind was led,

00:38:23.718 --> 00:38:26.429 align:center
deceitfully, little by little,

00:38:26.512 --> 00:38:29.056 align:center
by a false prophet

00:38:29.140 --> 00:38:30.558 align:center
to do things

00:38:30.641 --> 00:38:33.144 align:center
that she'd have never done ever.

00:38:34.937 --> 00:38:36.981 align:center
I too had been deceived.

00:38:37.481 --> 00:38:40.943 align:center
I believed
that I was the wife of a prophet.

00:38:42.695 --> 00:38:45.156 align:center
My false prophet told me,

00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:47.241 align:center
"Obedience is everything."

00:38:48.868 --> 00:38:51.620 align:center
"Obedience is the key to eternal life."

00:38:59.045 --> 00:39:01.547 align:center
He told me I needed to go through tests.

00:39:02.256 --> 00:39:05.176 align:center
It started in small steps.

00:39:05.259 --> 00:39:10.139 align:center
I had to sell things
that were very precious to me.

00:39:13.517 --> 00:39:14.894 align:center
I complied.

00:39:15.561 --> 00:39:18.522 align:center
I had already sacrificed my business.

00:39:19.023 --> 00:39:20.066 align:center
And then

00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:23.527 align:center
he told me I had to

00:39:24.236 --> 00:39:26.030 align:center
be separated from my children.

00:39:27.031 --> 00:39:29.241 align:center
Then I had to go

00:39:30.034 --> 00:39:32.244 align:center
live among the poor and needy

00:39:32.328 --> 00:39:34.580 align:center
and be abased before men.

00:39:41.629 --> 00:39:44.090 align:center
I believed that there would be,

00:39:44.799 --> 00:39:47.510 align:center
eventually, a divine payoff.

00:39:49.386 --> 00:39:52.932 align:center
And that meant I had to do
what he said or risk my soul.

00:39:55.476 --> 00:39:57.978 align:center
I was basically sex trafficked.

00:40:00.231 --> 00:40:02.775 align:center
One of his directions was

00:40:03.567 --> 00:40:07.238 align:center
that he wanted proof
that I was being sexually exploited.

00:40:07.321 --> 00:40:08.280 align:center
So…

00:40:10.324 --> 00:40:12.326 align:center
somebody, a man,

00:40:13.035 --> 00:40:14.495 align:center
took a picture of me.

00:40:16.080 --> 00:40:17.540 align:center
Little by little,

00:40:17.623 --> 00:40:20.126 align:center
with each test and each rebuke,

00:40:21.043 --> 00:40:22.503 align:center
I got more confused.

00:40:23.003 --> 00:40:24.922 align:center
I couldn't even recognize myself.

00:40:27.716 --> 00:40:30.261 align:center
He said I had to go through tests first

00:40:30.344 --> 00:40:32.805 align:center
to be worthy of being a prophet's wife.

00:40:32.888 --> 00:40:35.891 align:center
This whole underlined part right here.

00:40:35.975 --> 00:40:38.144 align:center
Does that remind you of Samuel?

00:40:40.020 --> 00:40:40.896 align:center
Yeah.

00:40:41.439 --> 00:40:42.773 align:center
A lot of it does.

00:40:44.358 --> 00:40:46.026 align:center
It's just disgusting.

00:40:47.611 --> 00:40:48.946 align:center
And I just broke down.

00:40:50.489 --> 00:40:52.241 align:center
And I started to just say…

00:40:55.453 --> 00:40:58.247 align:center
"…We are in deep trouble with sexual sins

00:40:59.039 --> 00:41:00.332 align:center
under this…

00:41:02.835 --> 00:41:04.670 align:center
false idea of religion."

00:41:07.173 --> 00:41:09.884 align:center
And I knew that to get help,

00:41:10.468 --> 00:41:12.803 align:center
I needed to reveal to this woman

00:41:12.887 --> 00:41:15.556 align:center
the sickening things I've done

00:41:16.348 --> 00:41:17.516 align:center
and been a part of.
I've done