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It's very difficult to explain to people

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how all of this happened.

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A slide of snow coming down the mountain,

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and it begins to roll like a snowball.

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Compromise by compromise,

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how does something so small as a snowflake

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build up till an avalanche
was over our heads?

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I grew up knowing
that you have a conscience.

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There's a certain fear
that comes over you.

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The fear that you know you're doing wrong.

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The fear of God.

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One of the subtle things
this wicked man did

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was to destroy conscience.

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I was groveling in sin.

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I didn't want to live like this.

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I envied the corpse.

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I envied the corpse a lot.

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We weren't living very far
from the police station.

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I could have simply walked over there.

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But I just kept thinking,

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will they hear one woman's cry?

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Once I knew that Christine
was the one I could go to

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and ask for this help,

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I thought, "Okay,
now we've got two women, not just one."

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Will they hear it?

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Thursday, July 28th, with Julia.

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When Julia began
disclosing to me, I began recording.

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-I just want to do right.
-Yeah. Yeah.

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Following Samuel to Hell
is not doing right.

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It isn't.

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And a woman does not
have to follow a man to Hell.

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-Right.
-She doesn't.

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It was hard for her at first.

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She started by telling me

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how Sam was getting more and more cruel.

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It was tough for me to tell Christine

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how much of a fake front
is being put on in her presence.

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-Bye-bye.
-Bye.

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-I'm gonna go.
-Bye.

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Thank you, bye.

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Thank you.

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The minute that she would leave,

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he would attack 'em
with the most vulgar language,

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and effing 'em and all sorts of stuff
that was just disgusting.

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I just watched as he began
to feed himself off everybody.

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He's home on the computer
twiddling around,

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and they were out

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cleaning motel rooms
and Airbnbs and working hard.

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Even when they were expecting babies,

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sick or not sick, they would go to work

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to earn the money for him.

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It's one of the girls' notebooks, and…

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and we knew they'd been doing affirmations

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to increase their inner self.

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And then when they were home,
he would make 'em do hours of writing.

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Everything has to do with Samuel.

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Everything is Samuel!

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"And thus saith the Lord
unto my servant, Samuel."

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I wanted to show Christine what
he was doing to manipulate their minds.

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"Samuel, I am
in holy fucking love with you."

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"Samuel, I am
in holy fucking love with you."

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It just became an absolute drill.

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It's like…

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-A mind-control technique.
-Yeah.

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In a week's period of time,

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Julia went to Christine,
I think, three or four times

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just crying and sobbing
and talking for hours.

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Julia never agreed
with giving her daughters,

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especially her minor children,
to Sam Bateman.

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You can grab those Kleenexes.

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She knew it was wrong,

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but she had to obey what the prophet said
and what her husband said.

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Bateman also threatened Julia

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that he was going to take
her one-year-old son away from her

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if she did not obey him.

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Eventually, Christine asked Julia

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if she wanted to talk to somebody about it

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and told her about me.

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Julia was terrified of law enforcement,

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but she knew something had to be done
and didn't know what else to do.

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I just want to get back to my God.

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And my true religion.

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And soon thereafter,

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Dawn was in town,
and Julia agreed to meet with her.

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I thought, you know, this man

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cannot go on and keep hurting people.

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And so I went and started

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telling it all.

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It was very emotional, and it was…

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…it was the hardest thing to do.

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Julia had information
on certain sex acts that occurred

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and where they occurred,

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what occurred,

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what happened during those sex acts.

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This is gonna get gross.

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Um…

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Sam Bateman chose
the people he wanted to be there,

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which would include
adults and minor girls.

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To not get caught by law enforcement,

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Sam was taking precautions not
to get any of the minor girls pregnant,

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but having sexual relations with them.

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He wanted to have
people watching him have sex.

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He wanted other people to be having sex
while he was having sex.

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He would have, uh,

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the fathers having sex with other women,

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with their daughters in the room.

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Sometimes he would have
people watching by video.

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I don't know who was all on video.

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Watching it.

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But you could see Sam on the other bed.

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The goal was to try
to teach the young girls

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how to please Sam Bateman.

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It was clear

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that what I knew

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before meeting Julia
was the tip of the iceberg,

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and it just kept getting worse
and worse and worse.

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Julia knew something had to be done,

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and she was going to help me
nail this motherfucker.

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Julia and I were now working with the FBI.

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Julia, bless her heart,

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she was so good about documenting things.

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She had access
to all the identifying information

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for the wives and for the girls.

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I've got those birth certificate records.

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Any of them that they want,
I'll give them to them.

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Yeah, that's great.

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She was able to provide a lot
of the group communications on Signal.

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I just gave 'em anything
that they asked for.

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Notes I'd made on my phone,

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pictures on my phone,

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pictures of people I love so much.

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My sisters, my daughters.

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It was very grievous, but I had to do it.

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My emotions are just right at my eyelids.

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'Cause I'm just at the beginnings
of what's gonna happen.

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-You know?
-Yeah.

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It's gonna be big, like for Moroni.

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Julia's husband Moroni
was still a very strong believer.

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She had to hide, even from him,

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that she was meeting with me.

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I tried to delete as much of the trail.

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You know, I double-checked my phone.

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Made sure everything
was deleted out of cut-and-paste.

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Everything.

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If Sam sensed anything,

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or if anybody saw me
going to Christine's a lot

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or conversating with her,

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he would question Moroni about it.

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We mostly did it inside.

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I'd even park in such a way that
you couldn't see that my vehicle was here,

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inside the gate.

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We were taking evidence
in the middle of the night.

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2:30, 3:00 in the morning,
we'd go to a secret location.

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Christine would get out of the car,
enter into another car.

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That's just to exchange evidence.

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Julia and I would come up
with ways to keep it hidden.

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We met at Kahuna Burger.

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We met at Tropical Smoothie.

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We drove around a lot.

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I didn't take this

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and, you know, have a conversation
with Moroni or anything,

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because if there's any questioning,
the pressure gets on him, you know?

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Yeah.

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And Moroni is very obedient to him, okay?

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-He reports every minute?
-He reports everything.

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Sam sensed

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that Julia was not going with the program.

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Hi. I love you. Hi.

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He knew.

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I… I just wasn't believing all that.

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When you say, "I fear what's happening."

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"Something's wrong,
and I don't feel good about it,"

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and he would say, "Fear and faith
cannot remain in the same person

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at the same time."

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"And you need to go
and, you know, humble yourself

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because you're giving way to fears."

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And he's been very concerned

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to the point he's turned
those girls away to me… from me.

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And has them entirely convinced

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the word he calls me
over and over in their minds,

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day after day,

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which was a word we never ever
even used or brought into our vocabulary,

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was "a bitch."

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He made her stand in front of the group
and confess that she was a bitch.

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She had to take on this identity

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and say terrible things about herself
and how bad she was.

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Sam was constantly

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coming up with stories
to make all her daughters

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believe things about her
that were not true.

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My children hate me.

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Julia told me

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that Sam was trying to get
more and more control over the girls.

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Sam and his group had two houses.

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There was a blue house
that was big and full of bedrooms.

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At first,
most people lived in the blue house,

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but as Sam became more sexual,

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he took all of his wives and their babies

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and moved them a couple of blocks away

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to the green house,

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which was a tiny house
with only two bedrooms.

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He took these ladies

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and crammed 22 of 'em
into a teeny-tiny, rundown place.

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Sam had a giant bed,

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and he extended it with another bed
so they all slept together.

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He wanted to be completely
in his own little corner

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and have full control over 'em.

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Who he did not allow
in the green house was

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Julia and the other male followers.

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Sam was getting more and more jealous.

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He was so insecure.

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And he began to find reasons
to punish the men.

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There's principles in our religion

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of punishment.

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If men do wrong, they just get punished.
That's all there is to it.

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They've got to suffer a pain of mind

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because they have done wrong.

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They were lusting after your wives?

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They're lusting after my wives.

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That's adultery.
It's the same thing as adultery.

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It's like the second-wickedest thing
that we know about.

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Sometimes Sam would have the wives

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go over to the blue house for a dinner,

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and the male followers were not allowed
to interact with them.

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In fact, Moroni had
a room in the basement.

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He was not allowed
to eat in the dining room.

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He was to stay in his room

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unless he was working.

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They're living in the basement.

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Lud, big smart Lud,

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he can't leave his room.

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Sam just turned on them.

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For no reason.

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They've given their all.
They've given literally their family,

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their monies, everything,

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and then they just get turned on.

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Sam became
this controlling monster over Moroni.

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And Moroni just kept obeying Sam.

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You obey because
there's a certain mind frame

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that even I went through, and that is,

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"Oh God, this has got to be right

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because if it's not right,

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I'm no good."

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"I'm not even worthy to be on this earth."

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But it's a mind frame
that you have to get past

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and say, "Something's wrong."

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Get the girls back,
and you're gonna be fine.

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They need to come home, and they need
to get out of that green house.

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Yeah.

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Julia was able to provide
a lot of information

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that helped solidify the case.

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We were pushing to get warrants
to search Sam's home.

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We were hoping
we would have something to indict Sam on

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so that we could arrest him
when we conducted the search warrants,

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but without a disclosure
from an underage victim,

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the United States Attorney
for the District of Arizona

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would not approve
child sexual abuse charges

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in order to be able to arrest him.

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We still needed more evidence against Sam,

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so we needed Christine
to keep playing her part

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and stay close to Sam.

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You know, give him a rope
and let him hang himself.

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Pretty! That's pretty!

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-I told her to show Christine, so she is.
-Come over here.

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It's not comfortable

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living a life that is not real to you.

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I was so trusted.

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-Love you, guys.
-We love you.

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You're better off.

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I mean, they named a baby after me.

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Bye, Christine Marie.
One little kiss for you.

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I knew that in order to help them,

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I had to betray them.

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You were the first wife.

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I don't look at myself
that way because we're all equal.

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I know. I know.
But you were the first wife.

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You were the courageous one
that started this whole thing.

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It was Heavenly Father.

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Yeah.

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At times, the things Christine had to do
truly became ridiculous.

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I have some new pieces of information.

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Okay.

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Remember how I told you
that… that he thinks

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that the Queen of England belongs to him?

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Right.

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Well, um,

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he's been having impressions
that he needs to do a music video.

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It's not for self-aggrandizement.

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It is for the sole purpose
to get the Queen to come over here

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because that's the next step
in… in my mission.

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I don't know why. I don't care why.

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But that's the next thing
that needs to happen.

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And he wants to put it on YouTube

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and so somehow it will get to the Queen,

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and the Queen will come here
and become his wife.

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So we are going along with everything.

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See how this is like… This is so, uh…

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-Flowy?
-Yeah.

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This would make, like,
for the background or something.

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The music video gave us
all this time to interact

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as we kept gathering evidence.

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It's called behind the scenes.

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When you make a music video,
it's very common to get behind the scenes.

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We'll start doing it
at two o'clock or something.

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-Okay.
-Go, like, two to nine should be good.

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Tolga, obviously, was the director.

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I guess you would say
that I was the art director.

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-Were you thinking this would go behind?
-Yeah.

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Wondered if we should drape it
with like a sheet or something?

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We could do that.

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I was working with the girls.

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"We need a better background."

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"Let's make an arch with flowers."

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Oh, you used paperweights.

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-Yeah.
-That's amazing. I never thought of that.

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You know, "What are you gonna wear?"

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And really make it seem real.

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Yeah, probably.

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Oh, that's so beautiful.
Everything turned out so beautiful.

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Pretty straight.

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That one.

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Yeah, let's just have them line up
and just see the first shot.

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Can we-- Can you guys line up?

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Who's gonna lead us?

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We wanted to show
how little the littlest ones were.

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And one of 'em was so small,

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she didn't even fit in the lineup.

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-Wait a minute.
-I'm just gonna wait.

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I just want to make it
a little more uniform.

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No, you're fine
on the wide shot. You're fine.

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-You're gonna make her taller now.
-I know.

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It's better. It shows that she's… Yeah.

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Sing it with feeling, okay?

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Do you know what I mean
by "sell it with your face"?

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Like, if we want to believe
what you're saying,

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let us see it in your facial expressions.

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-Okay.
-Okay.

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And music.

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So much lies in store

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For the little girl
Who enters at the gate

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If you continue on this path

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Every promise God has given
Will come true

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You guys really sold it
on that one. It was really good.

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So, why… why is this song important?

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It just tells the story
of a girl's life in our religion.

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She's born, and she's given
a name and a blessing.

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When she's eight years old,
she's baptized.

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Then, when she's married,
she pretty much has a rebirth and…

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…and goes into her life.

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It really is like an orchestra,

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the way you work together.

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I'm very impressed.

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Heavenly Father gets the credit.

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-Anybody want to take any credit?
-No.

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Thank you, Heavenly Father,
for this good experience.

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After the video,

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we offered to take photos
of each woman with Sam.

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Our goal was

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to get

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Sam with each of his underage wives.

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But when it came to the underage girls,

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Sam said,

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"We better not do that because
that's how they took Warren Jeffs down."

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"Because they had that photo evidence."

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And I said,
"Of course. What was I thinking?"

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Wait, one more.

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Got it.

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I'm waiting and waiting for the FBI
to conduct the search warrant.

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We'd been filming Sam for almost a year.

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We were on pins and needles.

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When is the arrest gonna happen?

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And Julia was panicking.

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She was living in a swirl of suspicion.

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Is you comin' with us?

25:04.169 --> 25:06.129
Sam wore a high paranoia,

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and he…

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he was watching.

25:11.968 --> 25:14.387
I had a conversation with Moroni.

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Was it just you?

25:15.639 --> 25:17.265
Yeah, it was just me and him.

25:17.766 --> 25:19.935
He turned to me and he said,

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"Are you having temptations
to report Samuel to the law?"

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What?

25:25.815 --> 25:27.067
He asked me that.

25:29.319 --> 25:33.573
Julia was distraught
with the situation that she was living in,

25:33.657 --> 25:36.201
and we were concerned about the threats

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that Sam Bateman would make to her

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and to her daughters.

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If Sam found out
what I was doing with Christine,

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he will… take my children,

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and he will take those people,
and he will flee.

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Did you end up coming over to my house?

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I didn't go to your place.

25:57.347 --> 26:01.476
Moroni called me
and said, "Come go for a ride with me."

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How'd that go?

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-He drove us up to the cabin.
-Uh-huh.

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As we got up onto the freeway,

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he said, "You need to sign some papers…"

26:11.236 --> 26:12.445
-What?
-Who said it?

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"…over guardianship
of  and ."

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Yeah. He said we need to do that

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so that Samuel can do with them
as he wants.

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-Oh.
-Wow.

26:28.169 --> 26:30.964
Sam had been trying to get all of his

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wives and children to get passports.

26:34.467 --> 26:36.636
There is stuff going on.
There's movements.

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They're buying a plane
for a quarter million bucks.

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Oh my goodness.

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He's gonna leave any second. He's ready.

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I mean, he's gonna go out of town.
He's gonna take the girls and go.

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I mean, he's getting a plane. Hello.

26:52.652 --> 26:56.531
Even though we did not have
enough evidence to arrest Sam

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on the child sexual assault charges,

26:59.993 --> 27:01.953
there was concern as to what he might do

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if we did not… act quickly,

27:05.248 --> 27:06.708
act decisively

27:06.791 --> 27:08.668
to alleviate the situation.

27:10.378 --> 27:13.840
So we finally made a plan
to serve the search warrant the next week.

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-We have been aced out.
-Maybe go over here.

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-Maybe the other end there.
-Oh, they're not here.

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Hi. This is Samuel Bateman.

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The mailbox is full

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and cannot accept any messages
at this time. Goodbye.

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I'm supposed to meet Sam and the girls,

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but I went to the building,
they're not there.

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And I went to the blue house,
they're not there,

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and I called, and his mailbox is full.

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District Two units.
Copy attempt to locate southbound 89.

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Suspicious vehicle.

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Unknown box trailer full of people,
including children inside the vehicle.

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Service 292.

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And there's fingers sticking
out the top of the door on the trailer.

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10-4, fingers sticking
out the top of the door of the trailer.

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232 on 97.

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232…

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There's little fingers
coming out of the right door

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in the trailer.

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230, copy, 28.

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Come over here, please.

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-I'm gonna get that knife off you, sir.
-Yeah.

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-Any other weapons on you?
-No.

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Stop reaching in your pockets.
What's your name?

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-What's that?
-What's your name, sir?

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-Samuel.
-Samuel? Samuel what?

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What is your name?

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Samuel.

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Samuel what?

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You have to identify yourself.

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-You understand that, right?
-I don't know. Yeah, Samuel Bateman.

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Samuel Bateman?

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-I don't understand. What…
-Hmm?

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What are you doing?

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Samuel, I just got here.
Explain to me what's going on.

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-Stuff.
-Stuff?

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We're out here because
there is supposedly people back there.

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How many other people are in the truck?

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How many other people are in the truck?

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Open the driver's side door.

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Hello. How many people do we have in here?

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-Four.
-Okay.

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Want to step out of the car, ma'am?

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Ma'am. Step out of the car.

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Are there people back here?

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No.

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What about in the trailer?

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How many people are in the trailer?

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How many people are in your trailer?

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-Let's start heading back there.
-Hey, hey.

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Come with me. Okay.

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Start walking 'em back.
They don't need handcuffs.

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We just need to get 'em outta here.

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We'll go from there, so…

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This is the police!

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We're gonna be opening the door.

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I want your hands empty
and above your head!

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If you do not,
you will suffer the consequences.

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Where are the hands? Let's see the hands.

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Let's get that other door open.

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There were hands sticking
out of the top of the trailer earlier.

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Let's see 'em!

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Let's see your hands.

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-There they are, in the front.
-Behind the curtain.

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Okay. Keep your hands up for me.

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Is there anybody else inside the trailer?

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No? Perfect.

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Thank you, guys.

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Just head back there
with your siblings, okay?

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We're gonna head back there with them.
Thank you so much.

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What about him?

31:42.191 --> 31:44.277
At this point, he's detained right now.

31:44.944 --> 31:46.654
You have to let him go.

31:46.738 --> 31:49.699
No, ma'am. You're not gonna
decide the outcome of this.

31:49.782 --> 31:53.745
We will decide, and we'll let you know
how everything's gonna happen here, okay?

31:55.204 --> 31:56.164
Sound okay?

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The 14-year-old,
she had a ring on her ring finger.

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She had a ring on her finger.
They've all kind of, like, hidden those.

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And you are Naomi?

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Yes.

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The one in the red dress he's talking to…

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-Mm-hmm.
-…is basically the ringleader.

32:15.892 --> 32:19.103
She's basically telling them all
not to talk.

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We need to talk to parents,
whether they come here and pick 'em up

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or we get 'em on the phone.

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So we'd like to call and actually talk
to the parents for all the juveniles.

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I got a call from one of my daughters

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saying, "Hey, we've been stopped,"

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and…

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and three of the young girls
were in the trailer.

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So I just want
to, uh, make sure that you are…

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Do you know
where your daughters are right now?

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-Yes, I do.
-Okay.

32:51.844 --> 32:53.888
I knew that the FBI was coming,

32:54.931 --> 32:59.060
and I was under
such carefulness at the time.

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I had to just play it on,

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or it would have blown apart
everything we'd done so far.

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And you're aware of who they're with?

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Um, I believe his name's Samuel?

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-Yes.
-Okay.

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And so it was agreed
that my underage daughters could be there,

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but I also got the officer's information

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and a phone number,

33:21.249 --> 33:22.875
and then I contacted FBI.

33:24.836 --> 33:28.756
Julia was frantic
because Sam was possibly being arrested.

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My biggest thing was,
"Hold on. Do you have information?"

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"Can I get a hold of this person?"

33:33.970 --> 33:36.597
I didn't want our case to be blown,

33:36.681 --> 33:40.309
and, luckily, Julia had gotten
the trooper's information.

33:43.104 --> 33:44.063
-Hi.
-Hi.

33:44.147 --> 33:46.941
So the trooper charged three felonies,

33:47.024 --> 33:49.736
which means Sam should be held
at least until tomorrow morning.

33:49.819 --> 33:53.072
So we do want to keep him there?
Is that what we… what we want?

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The longer he stays in
the better it is for me, but, um,

33:56.909 --> 33:59.370
we're still having a lot
of discussions about that, so--

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Hey, listen.

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One of the girls is on the other line.
Do you want me to…

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Did you wanna mute your phone,

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and I'll three-way and talk to her,
and you can listen?

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-Sure.
-Okay.

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Hi… What's going on? You know, I got the--

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Tell me everything's going
to be okay. I just had to cry on you.

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It's okay. You can cry.

34:18.681 --> 34:19.974
It's okay.

34:20.058 --> 34:22.435
This is a traumatizing experience.

34:23.811 --> 34:25.688
-What's happening?
-What's happening?

34:25.772 --> 34:29.525
I feel like I'm out
in a battlefield with nowhere to go.

34:29.609 --> 34:33.446
Oh my goodness.
This is such a scary situation.

34:33.529 --> 34:36.491
Remember, these people
don't even know who Samuel is.

34:36.574 --> 34:38.159
This has nothing to do

34:38.659 --> 34:41.037
with your mission

34:41.120 --> 34:44.540
or with his calling.

34:44.624 --> 34:45.666
Nothing like that.

34:45.750 --> 34:49.462
This is really just about
having the girls in the back of the truck.

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So let's remember, um,

34:52.799 --> 34:55.635
to not give it bigger meaning
than it really has.

34:57.220 --> 34:58.179
And…

34:58.262 --> 35:00.598
-I think I was.
-Yeah.

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So. Okay, so I'll call you back
when I learn more.

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-Okay. Thank you so much.
-Okay, thanks.

35:06.938 --> 35:08.272
Thank you. Love you. Bye-bye.

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Thank you. Bye-bye.

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Okay. Um…

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Very good. Very good.
You do so well with them.

35:15.154 --> 35:19.700
Oh, I don't know if I had to grade myself,
if I would give myself an A.

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Probably not. Anyway, um…

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The thing is, it's gonna get media.

35:23.913 --> 35:25.289
It's gonna get all kinds of things.

35:25.373 --> 35:26.624
-You know?
-Right.

35:27.166 --> 35:29.460
-And that's what we don't want.
-Yeah.

35:31.420 --> 35:32.421
New tonight,

35:32.505 --> 35:35.550
the leader of a small polygamous sect
in northern Arizona

35:35.633 --> 35:37.051
facing several charges

35:37.134 --> 35:40.680
after law enforcement found him
transporting several young girls

35:40.763 --> 35:42.807
inside a trailer in Flagstaff.

35:43.391 --> 35:46.894
That man still behind bars
tonight. He pleaded not guilty.

35:48.062 --> 35:50.857
The media got interested in the story.

35:50.940 --> 35:53.943
And the girls were afraid
for their safety.

35:54.610 --> 35:57.238
If a lot of you show up
in your FLDS dresses,

35:58.322 --> 36:01.284
the question would be
whether that would create media

36:01.367 --> 36:02.785
that you don't want.

36:02.869 --> 36:05.705
Yeah, 'cause people
just drive right up and video us.

36:05.788 --> 36:07.415
We can't even hide.

36:07.498 --> 36:09.917
Does anybody have any gentile clothes?

36:11.210 --> 36:13.880
No, but we can figure out how to get 'em.

36:15.798 --> 36:18.426
The question is,
what kind of gentile do you want to be?

36:18.509 --> 36:21.804
-A modest gentile, a badass gentile?
-A modest.

36:21.888 --> 36:24.640
I don't want to be a gentile.

36:24.724 --> 36:28.644
Yeah, look at that. That one's perfect
'cause it's like a shirt dress.

36:28.728 --> 36:31.230
What about something like that,
with like a tee underneath?

36:31.314 --> 36:32.231
Sure.

36:32.315 --> 36:35.776
Something that kinda hangs down,
but not like a dress.

36:37.778 --> 36:39.906
Uh-oh.
You talking about the girls at home?

36:39.989 --> 36:42.200
You can tell us.

36:50.249 --> 36:54.629
They took us to the trailer,
and they explained what happened.

36:54.712 --> 36:57.632
It's quite a bit different than it was,
but you can kinda look.

36:57.715 --> 36:59.800
There's two chairs,
two big chairs in the back.

36:59.884 --> 37:01.969
-Camping stuff. Stroller.
-Oh, yeah. Okay.

37:02.053 --> 37:03.679
Oh, and that's your bathroom?

37:03.763 --> 37:07.558
It was obvious that this was
a system that they had used before

37:07.642 --> 37:10.519
to transport… these children.

37:10.603 --> 37:13.940
I want your hands empty
and above your head!

37:18.110 --> 37:21.322
Later finding out
that the trailer doors weren't secure,

37:21.405 --> 37:24.158
and that's how somebody
even knew they were in there.

37:24.241 --> 37:26.243
It's 'cause they reached
to hold those doors shut

37:26.327 --> 37:28.120
because they started coming unlatched.

37:29.288 --> 37:31.165
Yeah, that's how it was.

37:31.249 --> 37:33.042
The slightest thing had gone wrong,

37:33.125 --> 37:35.586
and those girls would've been flung
onto the freeway.

37:36.087 --> 37:37.964
The thought is sickening.

37:39.423 --> 37:41.467
Tolga and I are in Flagstaff.

37:41.968 --> 37:42.927
How you feeling?

37:43.928 --> 37:47.556
It's really nuts.
I feel crazy sick to my stomach.

37:47.640 --> 37:50.226
Anyway, we're gonna go.

37:50.309 --> 37:54.981
We're gonna pick up the prophet from jail.

37:55.564 --> 37:58.317
Torrance is coming in from the Crick.

37:58.401 --> 38:00.903
With $150,000.

38:02.154 --> 38:03.114
No joke.

38:03.948 --> 38:06.617
Cash bond, whatever. Cash bail.

38:08.035 --> 38:10.830
-Okay.
-I'm gonna take two of the girls with us.

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Okay. I'll be back.

38:16.002 --> 38:20.965
Call from an inmate
at Coconino County Jail.

38:22.216 --> 38:24.593
T is over there with the bail money.

38:25.428 --> 38:27.430
-In about ten minutes or so.
-Okay.

38:28.222 --> 38:29.098
Okay.

38:29.181 --> 38:31.100
We'll see you in not very long.

38:31.642 --> 38:33.561
Yeah, thank you. Bye.

38:33.644 --> 38:35.313
We need you. Bye.

38:37.815 --> 38:41.777
We are driving
out of Flagstaff with Father today.

38:42.987 --> 38:45.698
How do you like being
a gentile for 15 minutes?

38:45.781 --> 38:48.701
It's nice to kinda fit in
every once in a while, just like--

38:48.784 --> 38:51.662
No, not the "fit in."
It's just doing it for him.

38:52.246 --> 38:53.414
I don't want to fit in,

38:53.497 --> 38:57.293
so I'm actually
extremely comfortable living like I am.

38:59.879 --> 39:03.174
Not like this,
but, like, I don't care what they think.

39:03.257 --> 39:06.927
-Yeah.
-Because in our minds, we're celebrities.

39:07.428 --> 39:09.638
-Right.
-We're different. We're…

39:10.139 --> 39:10.973
Right.

39:13.559 --> 39:16.312
We've chosen to live higher standards

39:16.395 --> 39:19.231
so all it shows people
is that we're living higher standards

39:19.315 --> 39:21.525
because we love God and the prophets.

39:37.917 --> 39:39.835
She's doing the paperwork to get the bond.

39:39.919 --> 39:42.004
Biggest bail she's ever seen

39:42.546 --> 39:45.007
in this county as cash.

39:45.091 --> 39:46.592
-Wow.
-Yeah.

39:46.675 --> 39:47.885
What you here for?

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-Me?
-You want a friend like this.

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I'm here to find our friend.

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And get him.

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-That's right.
-Our dear, dear friend.

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Get you out of here.

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We're gonna go over to that gray door.

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And…

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We really didn't want Sam to be released.

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It was just not something
we could prevent.

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We worked with it. We worked with it.

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Looks like my phone fell out or something.

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No, we took your phone.

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We're putting it into evidence.

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-Please, what's happening?
-One male.

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Your phone will be
at the Department of Public Safety,

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here in Flagstaff at the crime lab, so.

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-Hello.
-Hello.

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Sam posted bail.

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-Did they give you your phone?
-No, they stole it.

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-Are you serious?
-Won't give it back either.

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But the FBI made sure they took his phone.

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They won't give you your phone?

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If they're holding it,

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there's a good chance
you're not gonna get it back.

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You're gonna lose it for sure.

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Sam got in our car

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and immediately started committing crimes.

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Um, what I'm wondering is… is, uh…
is there a way to factory data reset?

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I think? At home?

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They stole my phone
with all that stuff on it.

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-There's not anything on it, really.
-It has your life story on it.

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Well, whatever you were busted with,

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they take it and make it evidence, so.

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There might not be anything there,
but just… They keep it.

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You had your life story on it, though.

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-What do you mean?
-Then all your Signals.

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-Is there anything bad on it?
-Not really.

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Can you shut down Signal?

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-I… I deleted it. I deleted my account.
-Yeah.

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Oh.

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Okay, so…

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Hi.

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Hi.

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How are you doing?

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-Good to see you.
-I love you.

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When Sam was arrested,

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it sort of confirms
to his wives that he's a prophet

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because he's being persecuted.

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So they felt honored.

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I mean, this was like

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being part of biblical history.

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I wanna tell you something.

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Going to prison is not a big deal.
It's just like camping.

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But when Heavenly Father
takes away a spirit from me?

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That's when it gets serious.

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Okay, we're gonna take off.

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We're glad you're out.

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Okay? Call us if you need anything.
Love you, guys. Take care.

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Thank you, Christine.

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I couldn't film anymore.
I couldn't do it anymore.

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I couldn't see any more
of their love and their… you know.

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I mean, they… they're crying.
They love him.

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I'm just imagining
how much they're gonna hate us.

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You know, how much
they love us and trust us, and…

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The whole thing just…

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When he was talking about, um, deleting--
I mean, his phone?

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-Yeah.
-I filmed that.

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Oh, good.

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I was sitting in the back,
and I filmed them

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saying, "Well,
maybe we can factory reset."

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-We gotta get that. You know? I sent it.
-Yeah.

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So have you all kind of calmed down,

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and you feel okay now
after all that experience?

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It feels like my heart
is still trying to catch up.

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The whole thing's weird.

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It's almost like they changed it
from a misdemeanor to a felony.

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I just have to wonder

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if it might have had something to do with,
like, the police from here knew something

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and called them.
Is there a way to do that?

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No, they probably…
it probably showed up in the…

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it probably showed up
in the police record.

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-Okay.
-They might have called.

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And say, "Hey,
what happened with you guys?"

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Yeah. I don't know.

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After the Flagstaff arrest,

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he just knew, like, something was up.

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So we were like,
"You gotta just calm down."

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I don't think it's gonna be a big deal.

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-If we worry about it, we will attract it.
-Yeah.

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If we worry about it, it's gonna happen.

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I just, I don't trust
the government at all.

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I just don't think
you have anything to worry about.

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Sam felt like he was
being targeted by law enforcement,

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but at that point,

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I think he believed that it was
strictly local law enforcement after him.

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He was still unaware that there was
any federal investigation against him.

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He didn't know that his phone
was in federal custody at that time,

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where they were looking
for additional evidence.

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The crazy thing is that Sam's phone
was not the treasure trove of evidence

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that I was hoping for.

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He did not have
inappropriate photos of the girls.

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He did not have

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inappropriate conversations
with the girls, to… to a large extent.

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Nothing definitive for… for crimes.

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But it was when he was released from jail,

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he was trying to factory reset
his entire phone.

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Christine was able
to surreptitiously record that.

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Is there a way to factory reset?

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And that evidence allowed us to bring

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federal obstruction
of justice charges against Sam.

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We finally had what we needed
for the arrest of Sam Bateman.

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Hey, anything else you need to talk about?

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Can I film the prayer room,
get a tour of the prayer room?

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Yeah, of course.

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Oops, sorry.

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The FBI was planning a big raid

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that involved 50 FBI agents
from around different states.

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See here.

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The FBI said, "Film everything."

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This is coming from this.

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They want to see the entrance
from inside the house.

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You know, where the cars are.

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We had to go in prepared for the worst.

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Do they keep their doors
locked or unlocked?

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-Locked.
-Okay.

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They're under strict orders

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never to open the door to law enforcement.

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We won't stand out there
for probably even five minutes.

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It usually doesn't take us long
to open the door ourselves.

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I… was shaky

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'cause I didn't know
if there would be violence.

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Julia had concerns about guns.

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Did you guys take the gun
from Moroni's closet?

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That's still there.

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I believe that they had access
to some rifles for hunting.

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Do you guys have guns?

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Huh? It must be yes! It must be yes!

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There had been reports
that Sam had taken some of the girls

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out to practice shooting with handguns.

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So the reports were there
that it was a potential.

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They told me.

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They looked me in the eye, and they said
if anything happens to Father Samuel,

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that they will kill, and they will
level the state with violence.

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The paranoia is going to tighten them up.

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I think Nomz is going to be
very, very, very aggressive.

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-Yeah.
-She's the one that'll do any dirty work.

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Absolutely anything.

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Oh, I know.

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He has essentially
complete control over her mind.

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Uh, proposing a toast
for the most luckiest girls on Earth.

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Aw.

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Why do you feel lucky?

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Because we are married to the best man.

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When I married Samuel,

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it was one of the most beautiful things
I had ever witnessed.

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And we could feel
Heavenly Father's spirit.

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He wants our whole heart.

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And we cannot tie it
to anything on this earth

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more than God.

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I do this cheerfully.

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And there is zero resistance.

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Because I will obey.

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I believed he was my only way

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to Heaven.

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Back to God.

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If he held the keys to my salvation,

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anything I did would damn me
if… if he didn't approve of it.

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This world's gonna change. The Lord
is gonna use me to change this world.

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So I was going to be
submissive and obedient.

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Becoming the perfect wife.

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I mean, why did our Savior
hang on the cross and spill blood?

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Because blood is an atoning principle.

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I became a master

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at gauging how he wanted me to respond.

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And that was how I'd respond.

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I promise there will be men who beg

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to have their blood spilled.

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And then, eventually,

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I would do

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whatever he wanted.
,
