1 00:00:08,071 --> 00:00:10,031 [TV static] 2 00:00:11,116 --> 00:00:13,116 [static intensifies] 3 00:00:14,744 --> 00:00:16,754 [tense music playing] 4 00:00:16,830 --> 00:00:19,170 [indistinct crowd chatter] 5 00:00:21,209 --> 00:00:24,669 [male reporter 1] It's a scene of anticipation in front of the courthouse. 6 00:00:25,505 --> 00:00:29,005 [female reporter] This is a day we've all waited for for more than a year. 7 00:00:29,092 --> 00:00:30,512 The verdict is in. 8 00:00:32,303 --> 00:00:35,433 [male reporter 2] There is no doubt that this will go down in history. 9 00:00:38,226 --> 00:00:42,556 [man] I remember my wife came up along my right side 10 00:00:43,565 --> 00:00:45,775 and she looked at me and she goes, 11 00:00:45,859 --> 00:00:48,569 "They're going to blame this all on you." 12 00:00:49,237 --> 00:00:52,197 Thirty years later, it's a monster, 13 00:00:52,282 --> 00:00:54,582 and it keeps devouring everything in its path. 14 00:00:55,368 --> 00:00:56,198 …every Black! 15 00:00:57,036 --> 00:01:00,246 It says if it doesn't fit, then you must acquit. 16 00:01:00,331 --> 00:01:02,381 Our case was Hollywood. 17 00:01:03,626 --> 00:01:05,956 It had anything and everything Hollywood could want. 18 00:01:06,045 --> 00:01:08,715 [male reporter 3] Fourteen units now converged on this location. 19 00:01:08,798 --> 00:01:10,258 You had celebrity. 20 00:01:10,341 --> 00:01:11,891 [male reporter 4] Anything to tell us? 21 00:01:11,968 --> 00:01:13,598 Money. 22 00:01:13,678 --> 00:01:15,138 [crowd] Release the Fuhrman tapes! 23 00:01:15,221 --> 00:01:16,061 You had race. 24 00:01:16,139 --> 00:01:17,269 The cover-up continues. 25 00:01:17,348 --> 00:01:19,308 And then of course, there was murder. 26 00:01:19,392 --> 00:01:23,612 Our search is for the truth to determine who is responsible. 27 00:01:23,688 --> 00:01:27,478 You hear all of this talk about the search for truth. 28 00:01:27,567 --> 00:01:29,737 I wonder whose truth are we talking about? 29 00:01:29,819 --> 00:01:32,199 I was raised to trust the process, 30 00:01:32,864 --> 00:01:38,954 but I don't think justice truly exists when your loved one is brutally murdered. 31 00:01:39,037 --> 00:01:42,537 [male reporter 5] Now let's go to the courtroom. The moment has arrived. 32 00:01:42,624 --> 00:01:44,424 Who's nervous? Is anybody nervous? Yeah. 33 00:01:45,418 --> 00:01:47,838 [judge] Deputy Trower, let's have the jurors, please. 34 00:01:52,675 --> 00:01:55,545 Mr. Simpson, would you please stand and face the jury. 35 00:01:56,679 --> 00:01:58,599 [music intensifies] 36 00:01:58,681 --> 00:02:00,601 I believe 37 00:02:00,683 --> 00:02:06,153 justice can be different things to different people. 38 00:02:06,731 --> 00:02:09,901 [female juror] Superior Court of California, County of Los Angeles. 39 00:02:09,984 --> 00:02:12,034 In the matter of the people of the state of California 40 00:02:12,111 --> 00:02:17,161 {\an8}versus Orenthal James Simpson, case number BA097211. 41 00:02:18,117 --> 00:02:20,787 We the jury in the above entitled action 42 00:02:20,870 --> 00:02:23,460 find the defendant, Orenthal James Simpson… 43 00:02:23,539 --> 00:02:24,369 [crackling] 44 00:02:24,457 --> 00:02:26,457 [music distorts] 45 00:02:28,503 --> 00:02:30,513 [tense music playing] 46 00:02:35,176 --> 00:02:37,176 [music continues] 47 00:02:46,521 --> 00:02:47,861 [man] At ten o'clock that evening, 48 00:02:48,564 --> 00:02:51,154 {\an8}I was watching the news in the bedroom on the third floor 49 00:02:51,234 --> 00:02:52,324 {\an8}with my wife. 50 00:02:52,860 --> 00:02:55,410 Life in Southern California means living on the fault line. 51 00:02:55,488 --> 00:02:57,408 I became aware of a barking. 52 00:02:57,490 --> 00:02:58,910 [dog barking] 53 00:02:58,992 --> 00:03:01,832 And all of a sudden I heard two voices. 54 00:03:01,911 --> 00:03:06,581 {\an8}Well, the first one I heard was a clear male, young adult voice 55 00:03:06,666 --> 00:03:08,876 {\an8}that said, "Hey, hey, hey." 56 00:03:10,253 --> 00:03:14,973 {\an8}Then I watched The Dick Van Dyke Show and that ended at just prior to 10:30. 57 00:03:15,049 --> 00:03:17,139 Oh, this isn't right. I look like a strangler. 58 00:03:17,218 --> 00:03:20,598 Shortly after the end of The Dick Van Dyke Show, I walked my dog. 59 00:03:22,557 --> 00:03:26,347 I saw that there was a dog at the corner of Dorothy and Bundy. 60 00:03:26,436 --> 00:03:28,516 I figured that this was a lost dog. 61 00:03:30,398 --> 00:03:33,568 Stephen Schwab had a dog he said he had found. 62 00:03:33,651 --> 00:03:35,611 {\an8}We decided we would take the dog for a walk 63 00:03:35,695 --> 00:03:37,525 {\an8}and maybe it will know its way home. 64 00:03:39,282 --> 00:03:40,872 It took us down off Bundy. 65 00:03:41,367 --> 00:03:44,197 I was looking at the paws and the legs. 66 00:03:44,287 --> 00:03:48,117 It was a white dog and it had what I thought was brown mud on it. 67 00:03:48,207 --> 00:03:51,917 And suddenly it wanted to go to the other side of the road. 68 00:03:52,003 --> 00:03:56,593 On the other side it stopped and turned and looked at the walkway. 69 00:03:56,674 --> 00:03:59,344 So I looked in the direction where the dog is. 70 00:04:01,346 --> 00:04:04,426 I remember blood coming down the walkway, 71 00:04:04,974 --> 00:04:06,684 but I looked away very quickly. 72 00:04:07,602 --> 00:04:11,062 And I said, "You have to call 911. There's a dead body." 73 00:04:11,147 --> 00:04:12,187 - [music stops] - [crackling] 74 00:04:14,192 --> 00:04:16,192 [sirens wailing] 75 00:04:17,153 --> 00:04:19,163 [ominous music playing] 76 00:04:26,079 --> 00:04:29,169 [man] In 1994, I was working as a D2, 77 00:04:29,248 --> 00:04:33,498 that's a detective sergeant, in Homicide in the West LA Division. 78 00:04:35,254 --> 00:04:38,514 - I had 19 years on the job. - [female reporter] Detective Mark Fuhrman. 79 00:04:38,591 --> 00:04:40,931 [male reporter] LAPD Detective Mark Fuhrman. 80 00:04:41,010 --> 00:04:42,930 What do you believe happened that night? 81 00:04:45,056 --> 00:04:47,386 [music intensifies] 82 00:04:48,476 --> 00:04:50,846 Well, I wasn't supposed to be to work on Monday. 83 00:04:50,937 --> 00:04:54,607 So, I get home at 1:05. The phone in the kitchen rings. 84 00:04:57,151 --> 00:05:00,911 {\an8}We've got a homicide on Bundy in Brentwood. 85 00:05:01,948 --> 00:05:04,078 And I said, "Well, I'm not on call." 86 00:05:04,158 --> 00:05:08,698 And he goes… "Yeah, I know, but I want you to handle this." 87 00:05:08,788 --> 00:05:10,788 "Okay, I'm on my way." 88 00:05:12,667 --> 00:05:16,087 A good cop, in my eyes, is somebody that's highly perceptive 89 00:05:16,170 --> 00:05:17,800 of the environment they're in. 90 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,430 As far as a detective, you have to be organized. 91 00:05:21,509 --> 00:05:25,429 Uh, organized in your head and organized in your task. 92 00:05:27,849 --> 00:05:31,479 I get to 875 Bundy at about 2:10. 93 00:05:32,145 --> 00:05:34,305 We contact Officer Riske, 94 00:05:34,981 --> 00:05:37,651 a uniformed officer who was the first officer at the scene. 95 00:05:37,733 --> 00:05:38,733 [static crackles] 96 00:05:39,485 --> 00:05:40,855 {\an8}So he briefs us. 97 00:05:40,945 --> 00:05:43,235 {\an8}We observed a female, white, in a black dress, 98 00:05:43,322 --> 00:05:45,242 laying in a puddle of blood on the walkway. 99 00:05:45,324 --> 00:05:47,334 - [camera clicks] - [music continues] 100 00:05:50,288 --> 00:05:52,368 [Fuhrman] It looked like she had lighter hair, 101 00:05:52,457 --> 00:05:54,997 but it was all mixed with blood. 102 00:05:57,128 --> 00:05:58,748 And I saw something in the bushes. 103 00:05:58,838 --> 00:06:00,838 [music intensifies] 104 00:06:04,093 --> 00:06:06,803 {\an8}There was a male, another victim, 105 00:06:07,513 --> 00:06:10,643 {\an8}a few feet from her that was on his back. 106 00:06:11,267 --> 00:06:12,767 Could not tell the cause of death. 107 00:06:12,852 --> 00:06:16,862 We really didn't know if we had a shooting incident, 108 00:06:17,482 --> 00:06:20,322 uh, an edged weapon, blunt force. 109 00:06:20,401 --> 00:06:23,781 We really didn't know exactly what took place there. 110 00:06:24,363 --> 00:06:28,033 There's a detachment that you have, that you have a job to do. 111 00:06:28,117 --> 00:06:30,447 The shock of these two poor people 112 00:06:30,536 --> 00:06:33,616 being killed and left on a sidewalk 113 00:06:34,248 --> 00:06:35,878 really doesn't enter right then. 114 00:06:39,462 --> 00:06:42,882 About 2:30, my partner, Brad Roberts, shows up at the scene. 115 00:06:42,965 --> 00:06:45,635 Took me out and showed me where the victims were at. 116 00:06:48,095 --> 00:06:50,095 We looked at the bodies laying on the ground. 117 00:06:50,681 --> 00:06:53,521 Blood running out of her head, going down the sidewalk. 118 00:06:53,601 --> 00:06:55,811 Officer Riske, when he walked us through, 119 00:06:55,895 --> 00:06:59,395 he pointed out a dark-colored stocking cap… 120 00:07:01,067 --> 00:07:01,937 [camera clicks] 121 00:07:03,194 --> 00:07:05,154 and a glove. 122 00:07:07,156 --> 00:07:11,286 From that first observation, it looked like one glove. 123 00:07:14,330 --> 00:07:15,960 It looked like a leather glove. 124 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:17,880 It looked like it was fairly large. 125 00:07:19,001 --> 00:07:22,171 We looked at all the blood evidence and some footprints. 126 00:07:22,755 --> 00:07:24,875 It seemed like the suspect running away 127 00:07:24,966 --> 00:07:27,506 down the walkway towards the back gate where they fled. 128 00:07:27,593 --> 00:07:29,603 [ominous music continues] 129 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,900 I point out some blood drops that had been dropped on the gate. 130 00:07:42,066 --> 00:07:46,816 And Roberts goes, "Well, there's a bloody fingerprint on the turnstile." 131 00:07:48,864 --> 00:07:52,744 Beautiful, bloody imposed fingerprint on a brass turnstile 132 00:07:52,827 --> 00:07:54,157 which opened the gate in the back. 133 00:07:54,245 --> 00:07:56,655 And I go, "No shit!" [laughs] 134 00:07:59,709 --> 00:08:01,419 That, of course, went in my notes. 135 00:08:02,044 --> 00:08:06,344 It's got to be forensically collected and photographed at the location. 136 00:08:06,424 --> 00:08:10,474 It looked to be blood smudge on that leading to what I saw 137 00:08:10,553 --> 00:08:13,643 might be a possible fingerprint or a partial fingerprint. 138 00:08:13,723 --> 00:08:15,933 I was trying to take in everything I could. 139 00:08:18,185 --> 00:08:20,145 We went to the rear of the house. 140 00:08:20,938 --> 00:08:22,188 The garage was open. 141 00:08:25,151 --> 00:08:27,401 We walked into the residence. 142 00:08:27,486 --> 00:08:29,656 There was two children upstairs. 143 00:08:29,739 --> 00:08:31,619 They had been taken to West LA Station. 144 00:08:31,699 --> 00:08:33,739 - [camera clicks] - We have two victims. 145 00:08:33,826 --> 00:08:35,616 We don't know the cause of death. 146 00:08:35,703 --> 00:08:39,253 I had no idea how these two people fit together yet. 147 00:08:39,332 --> 00:08:40,172 [camera clicks] 148 00:08:40,750 --> 00:08:42,500 But she had no shoes on. 149 00:08:43,044 --> 00:08:44,504 He had shoes on. 150 00:08:44,587 --> 00:08:45,417 [camera clicks] 151 00:08:46,505 --> 00:08:51,755 {\an8}I'm starting to kind of connect up that the woman that had no shoes on 152 00:08:51,844 --> 00:08:53,434 {\an8}was probably in the house. 153 00:08:54,847 --> 00:08:59,597 At that point, Officer Riske walked back inside and saw something. 154 00:09:00,227 --> 00:09:03,517 Right by the front door, there was a letter. 155 00:09:04,607 --> 00:09:07,027 It had an O.J. Simpson as a return address. 156 00:09:07,109 --> 00:09:09,199 [eerie music playing] 157 00:09:10,237 --> 00:09:12,657 [Fuhrman] This is Nicole Brown Simpson's house. 158 00:09:12,740 --> 00:09:14,780 She's the ex-wife of O.J. Simpson. 159 00:09:15,993 --> 00:09:17,163 Okay. 160 00:09:17,912 --> 00:09:20,002 This is going to be a media event. 161 00:09:20,081 --> 00:09:22,041 Ladies and gentlemen, here is O.J. Simpson. 162 00:09:22,124 --> 00:09:24,384 - [male commentator 1] O.J. Simpson. - ♪ O.J. Simpson ♪ 163 00:09:24,460 --> 00:09:26,380 - [man 1] O.J. Simpson. - [man 3] O.J. Simpson. 164 00:09:26,462 --> 00:09:28,212 [male reporter] He was, by some accounts, 165 00:09:28,297 --> 00:09:31,967 the most popular player ever to glide across football's gridiron, 166 00:09:32,051 --> 00:09:33,301 winning the Heisman Trophy. 167 00:09:33,386 --> 00:09:36,926 You've got to work to be successful, and I don't consider that a sacrifice. 168 00:09:37,014 --> 00:09:40,104 - I wanted the ball. - [male commentator 2] He has 2,000 yards. 169 00:09:40,184 --> 00:09:42,904 O.J. Simpson has broken 170 00:09:42,978 --> 00:09:45,648 what seemed to be an insurmountable barrier. 171 00:09:45,731 --> 00:09:47,901 Producers come to me and ask me if I can act. 172 00:09:47,983 --> 00:09:49,783 I said, "Sure, I can try to act." 173 00:09:49,860 --> 00:09:51,820 [captivating music playing] 174 00:09:52,363 --> 00:09:55,203 - [man] O.J. Simpson. - His image is almost the same as mine. 175 00:09:55,282 --> 00:09:58,872 What is driving O.J. Simpson? That need to be liked? 176 00:09:58,953 --> 00:10:01,003 When I walk down the street, I want people to know me. 177 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:02,080 "That's O.J. Simpson." 178 00:10:02,164 --> 00:10:05,634 - [upbeat theme song playing] - [man] Ladies and gentlemen, O.J. Simpson. 179 00:10:05,710 --> 00:10:06,670 [cheering] 180 00:10:06,752 --> 00:10:09,262 It's funny. All my life, everything I've ever wanted, 181 00:10:09,338 --> 00:10:10,378 I've been able to get. 182 00:10:10,464 --> 00:10:13,224 [ominous music playing] 183 00:10:19,223 --> 00:10:23,603 {\an8}I was driving to a market called Westward Ho in Brentwood. 184 00:10:23,686 --> 00:10:26,726 [male reporter] This witness, who does not want her real name used… 185 00:10:26,814 --> 00:10:28,524 Tell us about that Sunday night. 186 00:10:28,607 --> 00:10:32,487 As I'm approaching Bundy, a car did run the red light. 187 00:10:35,865 --> 00:10:39,325 The white SUV went up onto the center median part. 188 00:10:40,327 --> 00:10:42,747 So the Bronco went up on the median and stopped. 189 00:10:42,830 --> 00:10:45,580 It had to stop because it was blocked by the other car. 190 00:10:45,666 --> 00:10:48,836 The driver gave me a really mean look. 191 00:10:48,919 --> 00:10:50,089 Gave me a look. 192 00:10:50,171 --> 00:10:52,091 Like I had done something to him. 193 00:10:52,173 --> 00:10:55,513 You know, like he was really angry. Like it was my fault or something. 194 00:10:55,593 --> 00:10:58,263 I recognized him as a football player. 195 00:10:58,345 --> 00:11:01,885 He was screaming and freaking out. "Get the car out of here! Get out! Move!" 196 00:11:01,974 --> 00:11:06,314 Then I recognized his voice because I had just seen a movie with this guy in it. 197 00:11:06,395 --> 00:11:07,805 It was a Naked Gun movie. 198 00:11:07,897 --> 00:11:10,107 Police! Throw down your guns! 199 00:11:10,191 --> 00:11:13,781 I recognized the voice as being O.J. Simpson. 200 00:11:13,861 --> 00:11:17,491 [male reporter] According to the witness, the traffic altercation with O.J. here 201 00:11:17,573 --> 00:11:19,833 happened right around the time of the murders. 202 00:11:23,162 --> 00:11:25,212 O.J. backed off the median 203 00:11:25,289 --> 00:11:28,629 and went around north on Bundy and took off. 204 00:11:31,045 --> 00:11:32,295 [music fades out] 205 00:11:32,379 --> 00:11:34,379 [man] My dream was to become famous. 206 00:11:35,341 --> 00:11:37,761 [woman] Have a seat on the witness stand and state and spell 207 00:11:37,843 --> 00:11:40,013 your first and last names for the record. 208 00:11:40,095 --> 00:11:42,175 Brian Kato Kaelin, B-R-I-A-N. 209 00:11:42,264 --> 00:11:44,434 I became famous for the worst possible reason. 210 00:11:44,517 --> 00:11:45,807 [intense music playing] 211 00:11:48,854 --> 00:11:54,494 Within a day or two, the media made me a celebrity, a liar, a freeloader, 212 00:11:54,568 --> 00:11:57,198 an assassin's target, everything, 213 00:11:57,279 --> 00:12:02,619 because people are so still fascinated with the obsession of a celebrity. 214 00:12:02,701 --> 00:12:04,701 [male reporter 1] Simpson's infamous houseguest. 215 00:12:04,787 --> 00:12:06,577 - [woman] It's Kato Kaelin. - [man] Kato Kaelin. 216 00:12:06,664 --> 00:12:08,674 I was actually going to sit on the couch, but 217 00:12:08,749 --> 00:12:09,629 I might stay. 218 00:12:09,708 --> 00:12:12,458 I came out to California to pursue an acting career. 219 00:12:14,630 --> 00:12:17,880 Nicole and I became friends in December 1993. 220 00:12:18,551 --> 00:12:20,221 Her friendship meant a lot to me. 221 00:12:20,719 --> 00:12:23,969 I think the big thing was that I could be trusted around her kids. 222 00:12:25,683 --> 00:12:27,523 Nicole got a puppy, it was an Akita, 223 00:12:27,601 --> 00:12:32,231 and the kids were all contemplating, "What can we name the dog?" 224 00:12:32,314 --> 00:12:34,364 And they all settled on calling the dog Kato. 225 00:12:34,441 --> 00:12:36,861 [male reporter 2] The plaintive wail of Nicole's dog Kato. 226 00:12:37,361 --> 00:12:40,201 So there was two Katos now, me and the dog Kato. 227 00:12:42,491 --> 00:12:45,451 {\an8}The relationship of O.J. and Nicole, it was like an elevator. 228 00:12:45,536 --> 00:12:47,826 It kept going up and down, off and on, off and on… 229 00:12:47,913 --> 00:12:50,883 [O.J. Simpson] My wife, Nicole, who came into my life 230 00:12:50,958 --> 00:12:55,708 at what is probably the most difficult time for an athlete, 231 00:12:55,796 --> 00:12:57,206 at the end of my career, 232 00:12:57,298 --> 00:13:01,138 and she turned those years into some of the best years I've had in my life, babes. 233 00:13:01,218 --> 00:13:04,008 When they were in love, they were in love. It was like, 234 00:13:04,096 --> 00:13:06,386 "You can see this couple's a great couple." 235 00:13:06,473 --> 00:13:09,393 And then when they weren't, "These people shouldn't be together." 236 00:13:09,476 --> 00:13:13,306 And so it was hard to know where they were at in their relationship. 237 00:13:16,650 --> 00:13:19,990 They were divorced, and then they did end up dating again. 238 00:13:20,070 --> 00:13:21,450 Speaking of that lady… 239 00:13:21,530 --> 00:13:24,120 - [man] There she is. - With another shot of tequila. 240 00:13:24,783 --> 00:13:28,253 [Kaelin] My opinion was, I think that O.J. doesn't like to lose, 241 00:13:28,329 --> 00:13:30,329 and thinks he could get her back no matter what. 242 00:13:30,414 --> 00:13:33,504 There's one thing Nicole was always quite adamant about, 243 00:13:33,584 --> 00:13:35,214 was that I was a great father. 244 00:13:35,294 --> 00:13:37,174 Even when we were divorced and apart, 245 00:13:37,254 --> 00:13:40,174 when she had personal problems, she came to me. 246 00:13:40,257 --> 00:13:41,927 I don't think a woman would do that 247 00:13:42,009 --> 00:13:44,759 if she felt that this person was insensitive or abusive 248 00:13:44,845 --> 00:13:47,715 and certainly not jealous or possessive. 249 00:13:48,307 --> 00:13:50,677 And I think it just boiled down to that 250 00:13:50,768 --> 00:13:54,308 he finally knew that she could actually move on, 251 00:13:54,980 --> 00:13:56,650 and I think it devastated him. 252 00:13:59,818 --> 00:14:02,028 I was actively searching for a place, 253 00:14:03,572 --> 00:14:07,082 and O.J. offered me, in the meantime, while I look for a place, he said, 254 00:14:07,159 --> 00:14:08,579 "I've got an extra bungalow." 255 00:14:08,661 --> 00:14:11,001 "You can have the bungalow until you find a place." 256 00:14:12,122 --> 00:14:14,122 [gentle, eerie music playing] 257 00:14:15,542 --> 00:14:19,252 I'm on the phone talking to my friend. I was leaning against the bed. 258 00:14:19,338 --> 00:14:22,468 Then all of a sudden, I heard this noise. 259 00:14:22,549 --> 00:14:23,969 I heard a thumping noise. 260 00:14:24,593 --> 00:14:27,223 And it's a pounding, and it was sort of like 261 00:14:27,304 --> 00:14:29,524 three different noises, three different thumps. 262 00:14:32,685 --> 00:14:34,015 And the picture moves. 263 00:14:35,938 --> 00:14:38,438 The picture just moved like it was an earthquake. 264 00:14:38,524 --> 00:14:42,364 And I said to my friend, "I think we had an earthquake. Did you feel that?" 265 00:14:42,444 --> 00:14:43,364 And she says, "No." 266 00:14:45,239 --> 00:14:47,569 And it had to have been caused by something. 267 00:14:49,201 --> 00:14:51,451 Next thing you know, I'm hearing this ringing. 268 00:14:51,537 --> 00:14:52,787 [intercom rings] 269 00:14:52,871 --> 00:14:54,921 A ringing coming from an intercom, 270 00:14:54,999 --> 00:14:58,289 and I think that's the door to be let into the gate 271 00:14:58,377 --> 00:15:00,047 because someone's out there. 272 00:15:00,129 --> 00:15:01,589 [intercom rings] 273 00:15:01,672 --> 00:15:04,472 So I go out of my guesthouse door, and I go down the pathway, 274 00:15:04,550 --> 00:15:07,260 and there's a limo driver in the limo. 275 00:15:08,387 --> 00:15:11,557 {\an8}[woman] Sir, as of June 12th, can you tell us where you were employed? 276 00:15:12,057 --> 00:15:14,477 {\an8}Uh, I was employed for Town and Country Limousine. 277 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:15,810 [intercom rings] 278 00:15:15,894 --> 00:15:19,944 My order was to pick up Mr. Simpson at 360 Rockingham. 279 00:15:20,024 --> 00:15:22,114 There is an intercom at the gate, 280 00:15:23,110 --> 00:15:27,030 and I was using that intercom to buzz the house. 281 00:15:28,407 --> 00:15:34,617 At that time, a white male… walked from behind the house area. 282 00:15:34,705 --> 00:15:36,495 That's when I ran out and saw the limo. 283 00:15:36,582 --> 00:15:38,462 He asked me if I felt an earthquake. 284 00:15:38,542 --> 00:15:40,542 [music intensifies] 285 00:15:43,672 --> 00:15:47,342 After that, I saw a figure just about where the driveway starts, 286 00:15:48,343 --> 00:15:51,263 come into the entranceway of the house, 287 00:15:52,181 --> 00:15:55,061 six foot, 200 pounds, all dark clothing. 288 00:15:56,685 --> 00:16:00,435 [woman] Could you tell whether the person was Caucasian or African American? 289 00:16:01,231 --> 00:16:02,361 Uh, Black. 290 00:16:03,150 --> 00:16:06,150 [woman] Could I ask the court to ask the defendant to stand, please? 291 00:16:07,696 --> 00:16:10,526 This'd be the size of the person you saw enter the front entrance 292 00:16:10,616 --> 00:16:12,026 of the house at Rockingham? 293 00:16:12,868 --> 00:16:14,158 Yes. 294 00:16:15,537 --> 00:16:18,167 I buzzed the intercom a few more times. 295 00:16:18,248 --> 00:16:21,918 This time there was an answer, which was Mr. Simpson. 296 00:16:22,002 --> 00:16:25,712 He told me that he overslept, and he just got out of the shower, 297 00:16:25,798 --> 00:16:27,468 and he'd be down in a minute. 298 00:16:27,549 --> 00:16:30,679 So O.J. at some point came out when the limo driver was there, 299 00:16:30,761 --> 00:16:32,141 and he was at the door. 300 00:16:32,221 --> 00:16:34,851 Didn't talk about anything. He was rushing to go to the airport. 301 00:16:36,725 --> 00:16:40,345 The limo opened up the trunk and I helped put luggage in. 302 00:16:40,437 --> 00:16:43,977 And while that's going on, I saw there was another separate bag. 303 00:16:44,066 --> 00:16:45,526 Small duffel bag. 304 00:16:46,527 --> 00:16:51,737 And I started walking towards that bag when O.J. says, "No, no, I'll get that." 305 00:16:51,824 --> 00:16:53,584 And even back then I was thinking, 306 00:16:54,326 --> 00:16:57,656 "Well, that's kind of strange. Why he didn't want me to get that bag." 307 00:16:57,746 --> 00:16:59,156 [music intensifies] 308 00:16:59,248 --> 00:17:03,338 Mr. Simpson said, "We got to go," and we drove off. 309 00:17:03,418 --> 00:17:06,378 [music peaks and continues subdued] 310 00:17:16,348 --> 00:17:19,268 [Park] I pulled up to the American Airlines Terminal 5. 311 00:17:19,935 --> 00:17:21,185 My name is Skip Junis. 312 00:17:22,479 --> 00:17:24,899 {\an8}I was at LAX to pick my wife up, 313 00:17:24,982 --> 00:17:29,192 {\an8}and I was parked out in front by where the skycaps usually work. 314 00:17:29,278 --> 00:17:32,778 I was the only car there until a limousine pulled up. 315 00:17:32,865 --> 00:17:34,985 Popped the trunk. Mr. Simpson got out. 316 00:17:35,075 --> 00:17:38,655 And that's when O.J. Simpson got out of the limousine. 317 00:17:39,288 --> 00:17:41,368 [Park] We started to take bags out of the trunk, 318 00:17:41,456 --> 00:17:44,496 and at that time, he asked me to go get a skycap. 319 00:17:44,585 --> 00:17:47,125 He did something that stood out. 320 00:17:47,212 --> 00:17:49,632 He had Louis Vuitton luggage, 321 00:17:49,715 --> 00:17:52,545 but he was holding this cheap canvas bag. 322 00:17:52,634 --> 00:17:55,894 I watched him interact with the skycap and the limo driver. 323 00:17:55,971 --> 00:17:58,271 He did not want them to touch that bag. 324 00:17:58,348 --> 00:18:02,438 He had one of the duffel bags kind of strapped over his shoulder. 325 00:18:02,519 --> 00:18:05,859 And I saw him go immediately to the trash can. 326 00:18:05,939 --> 00:18:09,279 And he unzipped the bag. 327 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:13,659 And then he would pull something out and put it immediately in the trash can. 328 00:18:13,739 --> 00:18:18,369 It looked like there was something long that maybe was wrapped in a cloth. 329 00:18:22,539 --> 00:18:25,789 And then he meandered into the terminal. 330 00:18:25,876 --> 00:18:27,876 [ominous music playing] 331 00:18:28,503 --> 00:18:31,133 [woman] And were you aware of where that flight was going to? 332 00:18:31,673 --> 00:18:33,093 Uh, I believe Chicago. 333 00:18:34,468 --> 00:18:37,678 [plane engine roars] 334 00:18:37,763 --> 00:18:40,223 [tense music playing] 335 00:18:41,725 --> 00:18:46,305 I go back into the residence, and at about that time, Ron Phillips, 336 00:18:46,396 --> 00:18:48,316 Detective Phillips, my boss, 337 00:18:48,398 --> 00:18:52,648 comes in and says that Robbery-Homicide is taking the case. 338 00:18:52,736 --> 00:18:56,736 {\an8}I learned that I was supposed to turn this case over to Robbery-Homicide 339 00:18:56,823 --> 00:18:58,083 {\an8}as per Chief Frankel. 340 00:18:58,158 --> 00:19:00,328 It was no longer our responsibility. 341 00:19:01,161 --> 00:19:04,121 It was best for us to now leave the crime scene, 342 00:19:04,206 --> 00:19:07,826 go back out, and wait for their arrival, and see if they had instructions 343 00:19:07,918 --> 00:19:10,748 on what they wanted us to do since it was now their case. 344 00:19:11,505 --> 00:19:14,335 To have Robbery-Homicide take the case was a no-brainer. 345 00:19:14,424 --> 00:19:17,394 Of course they are. It was just a matter of when they get here. 346 00:19:21,223 --> 00:19:24,563 [Lange] I was assigned to the Robbery-Homicide Division 347 00:19:24,643 --> 00:19:26,233 called Homicide Specials. 348 00:19:26,937 --> 00:19:29,977 It handles high-profile cases such as 349 00:19:30,065 --> 00:19:35,275 celebrity cases, organized crime cases, serial killing cases, 350 00:19:35,362 --> 00:19:36,702 these types of things. 351 00:19:36,780 --> 00:19:38,530 - [female reporter] Your first name? - Tom. 352 00:19:38,615 --> 00:19:40,775 [male reporter] Los Angeles Homicide Detective Tom Lange. 353 00:19:40,867 --> 00:19:44,577 Tom Lange, T-O-M L-A-N-G-E. 354 00:19:45,414 --> 00:19:50,254 At the time, I had something like 20 years of homicide investigation experience, 355 00:19:51,253 --> 00:19:54,593 roughly 200 to 250 cases. 356 00:19:55,299 --> 00:19:58,259 We have a saying out of the homicide manual 357 00:19:58,343 --> 00:20:03,433 that you alone… step into the shoes of the murder victim, 358 00:20:03,515 --> 00:20:06,015 and no one else ever is going to do that. 359 00:20:06,101 --> 00:20:08,101 You alone can do something about this. 360 00:20:08,770 --> 00:20:10,520 You're there for the victims. 361 00:20:12,899 --> 00:20:15,279 Two detectives from Robbery-Homicide show up. 362 00:20:16,570 --> 00:20:19,200 Tom Lange and Phil Vannatter. 363 00:20:21,575 --> 00:20:24,195 [Lange] Scene was cordoned off. The rear alley was cordoned off. 364 00:20:24,286 --> 00:20:26,956 That's one of the first things the detectives want to do 365 00:20:27,039 --> 00:20:28,619 so you don't step on evidence. 366 00:20:29,207 --> 00:20:31,747 {\an8}[man] Did Detective Phillips point anything out to you? 367 00:20:31,835 --> 00:20:34,165 {\an8}- Yes, he did. - [man] What did he point out to you? 368 00:20:35,213 --> 00:20:37,843 He illuminated a white envelope… 369 00:20:38,592 --> 00:20:40,722 that was lying there on the ground. 370 00:20:40,802 --> 00:20:43,472 - [music intensifies] - [camera clicks] 371 00:20:44,598 --> 00:20:47,138 {\an8}[Lange] It's slightly open, between the two bodies. 372 00:20:47,225 --> 00:20:50,395 {\an8}A business envelope, appears to have something in it. 373 00:20:50,479 --> 00:20:52,689 Later we find out it was glasses. 374 00:20:52,773 --> 00:20:55,533 It was obviously some type of a crime of violence. 375 00:20:56,109 --> 00:20:58,779 It looked like probably a knife attack of some type. 376 00:20:58,862 --> 00:21:03,702 It was evident that the woman was nearly decapitated. 377 00:21:03,784 --> 00:21:05,584 It's obvious the footwear impressions 378 00:21:05,660 --> 00:21:07,910 are going in this direction, fleeing the scene. 379 00:21:07,996 --> 00:21:11,536 It's obvious that the blood tails in conjunction with that. 380 00:21:11,625 --> 00:21:16,165 Perhaps the suspect is wounded on the left side of his or her body. 381 00:21:16,254 --> 00:21:19,384 I know we're going to get a size from the footwear impressions. 382 00:21:19,466 --> 00:21:22,796 Of great import is the fact two children who were sleeping in the house 383 00:21:22,886 --> 00:21:25,306 had been removed through the garage by the police. 384 00:21:25,389 --> 00:21:26,849 They were at West LA Station. 385 00:21:26,932 --> 00:21:27,772 [camera clicks] 386 00:21:28,308 --> 00:21:30,848 So we know that she was there with the children, 387 00:21:30,936 --> 00:21:33,516 the estranged wife of O.J. Simpson. 388 00:21:33,605 --> 00:21:37,935 The commander makes a decision, "Well, we need to contact O.J. Simpson 389 00:21:38,443 --> 00:21:41,243 because he will, no doubt, want his children back, 390 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,370 and no doubt, want to know what happened." 391 00:21:44,449 --> 00:21:47,829 We need to talk to him immediately because the media is gonna be all over this. 392 00:21:47,911 --> 00:21:49,501 [indistinct shouting] 393 00:21:49,579 --> 00:21:55,419 The former husband, wit 1, the first only witness we may have here, 394 00:21:55,502 --> 00:21:58,262 is going to be a major part of this investigation. 395 00:21:58,338 --> 00:22:01,218 It was our intention, myself and my partner, 396 00:22:01,299 --> 00:22:03,139 to go up there and meet Mr. Simpson. 397 00:22:03,218 --> 00:22:04,388 Hi, I'm O.J. Simpson. 398 00:22:04,469 --> 00:22:07,309 We need to know him. We need to meet him. 399 00:22:07,389 --> 00:22:10,559 Ultimately, interview him regarding this murder, 400 00:22:11,184 --> 00:22:14,564 and we believe that Phillips and Fuhrman may be able to assist us 401 00:22:14,646 --> 00:22:17,396 in the handling of the situation. 402 00:22:17,482 --> 00:22:20,612 And Detective Phillips had informed us 403 00:22:20,694 --> 00:22:24,784 that Detective Fuhrman had been to the location on a prior incident 404 00:22:24,865 --> 00:22:26,235 back a number of years. 405 00:22:26,324 --> 00:22:27,584 [music stops] 406 00:22:30,579 --> 00:22:34,209 It was a holiday, and there was a lot of people that were off, 407 00:22:34,291 --> 00:22:36,461 uh, for a New Year's Eve party, 408 00:22:36,543 --> 00:22:38,423 and we walk up the driveway. 409 00:22:39,129 --> 00:22:43,379 Nicole is by a Mercedes convertible. 410 00:22:43,467 --> 00:22:45,507 The windshield has been smashed, 411 00:22:46,470 --> 00:22:50,100 and she's just uncontrollably crying. 412 00:22:50,182 --> 00:22:53,272 Simpson is off to the left, 413 00:22:54,227 --> 00:22:56,227 and he's holding a baseball bat, 414 00:22:56,313 --> 00:23:00,323 and he's got this look on his face, like complete rage. 415 00:23:01,776 --> 00:23:06,236 And I said to Nicole, "Look, are you okay?" 416 00:23:06,323 --> 00:23:08,783 "If you want to make a report, I'll take a report." 417 00:23:08,867 --> 00:23:10,987 "It's the only way I can do something." 418 00:23:11,578 --> 00:23:13,788 And she says, "No, I'm fine." 419 00:23:15,707 --> 00:23:21,627 I said something to her that has come back to me a thousand times. 420 00:23:21,713 --> 00:23:23,763 I said to her, "It's your life." 421 00:23:29,304 --> 00:23:33,314 So now we have the two detectives that just assumed a double homicide 422 00:23:33,391 --> 00:23:36,141 of a possible ex-wife of O.J. Simpson. 423 00:23:36,228 --> 00:23:38,228 They have a hot crime scene, 424 00:23:38,313 --> 00:23:41,073 and you're going to an ex-husband's house 425 00:23:41,149 --> 00:23:44,149 to notify them their ex-wife is dead. 426 00:23:44,236 --> 00:23:45,486 [intense music playing] 427 00:23:45,570 --> 00:23:47,160 With four detectives? 428 00:23:47,239 --> 00:23:49,619 You do not leave your crime scene. 429 00:23:49,699 --> 00:23:53,699 I'm doing some eye rolling, but, you know, it's not my case. 430 00:23:53,787 --> 00:23:55,247 They left it. 431 00:23:57,582 --> 00:23:59,252 {\an8}[Lange] We pull up to Rockingham. 432 00:23:59,793 --> 00:24:01,423 By the gate, there's a phone. 433 00:24:01,503 --> 00:24:04,263 We go to the phone. Nobody answers inside. 434 00:24:04,965 --> 00:24:10,175 In front of the metal gate, I see a white Bronco parked at the curb, 435 00:24:11,096 --> 00:24:15,176 {\an8}kind of sticking out like someone pulled in and didn't straighten it out. 436 00:24:15,267 --> 00:24:19,017 {\an8}And I'm thinking in the back of my mind, "These are huge estates." 437 00:24:19,729 --> 00:24:21,229 "Everybody has gates." 438 00:24:22,065 --> 00:24:24,935 "Why would somebody leave a car out here like this?" 439 00:24:25,735 --> 00:24:28,525 I'm walking around the Bronco, and I'm shining the light. 440 00:24:28,613 --> 00:24:31,203 I'm looking, and I look at the handle, 441 00:24:31,283 --> 00:24:33,413 and there's these little spots. 442 00:24:33,493 --> 00:24:35,413 And I look at it real close… 443 00:24:37,414 --> 00:24:40,714 And he says, "I think it might be blood on the door." 444 00:24:40,792 --> 00:24:45,592 I could see it's got that dark brown, reddish, 445 00:24:45,672 --> 00:24:48,052 with the little edges that are kind of translucent, 446 00:24:48,133 --> 00:24:50,763 the way blood just kind of dries. 447 00:24:50,844 --> 00:24:51,724 [camera clicks] 448 00:24:53,972 --> 00:24:56,432 {\an8}Lange and Vannatter are talking, Phillips talking. 449 00:24:56,516 --> 00:24:58,846 {\an8}I'm deferring because I'm the junior detective, 450 00:24:58,935 --> 00:25:02,185 {\an8}and I'm listening. At a point, I kind of interrupted, 451 00:25:02,272 --> 00:25:05,032 and I said, "Look, we just came from a double homicide." 452 00:25:05,108 --> 00:25:07,988 "We have some unexplained nature to this Bronco." 453 00:25:08,069 --> 00:25:09,949 "I see what I believe to be blood. " 454 00:25:10,447 --> 00:25:12,367 "This is Simpson's estate." 455 00:25:12,449 --> 00:25:16,909 "We at least need to get in to make sure somebody isn't dead, 456 00:25:16,995 --> 00:25:19,905 dying, injured, something." 457 00:25:20,540 --> 00:25:21,830 "We need to make contact." 458 00:25:22,876 --> 00:25:24,626 [Lange] Exigent circumstances. 459 00:25:24,711 --> 00:25:27,381 If you believe in your mind there's an emergency, 460 00:25:27,464 --> 00:25:30,554 you have an obligation to investigate it. 461 00:25:30,634 --> 00:25:34,394 All we need to do is knock on the door and find out everybody's okay. 462 00:25:34,471 --> 00:25:35,641 That's it. 463 00:25:35,722 --> 00:25:37,972 How we gonna get in? Just went over the wall, 464 00:25:38,058 --> 00:25:40,518 released the hydraulic arm on the gate. 465 00:25:43,063 --> 00:25:45,363 [Lange] Fuhrman opens the gate and the four of us go in, 466 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:46,820 go up to the front door, 467 00:25:46,900 --> 00:25:48,860 and we bang on the front door. 468 00:25:48,943 --> 00:25:50,153 No one answers. 469 00:25:50,779 --> 00:25:53,909 So we look to the side, which would be the north side. 470 00:25:55,075 --> 00:25:57,195 There's a little pathway going to the rear. 471 00:25:58,578 --> 00:26:01,788 And we see these bungalows. There's two or three bungalows there. 472 00:26:02,624 --> 00:26:05,134 We go up to the first one, and we bang on the door. 473 00:26:05,210 --> 00:26:07,710 This male, white, opens the door. 474 00:26:07,796 --> 00:26:10,876 A little guy, slight build, long blond hair. 475 00:26:10,965 --> 00:26:14,135 It was, uh, four detectives from the LAPD. 476 00:26:14,219 --> 00:26:16,349 Detective Fuhrman was one of the gentlemen, 477 00:26:16,429 --> 00:26:19,639 and he asked me, with a flashlight in my face, 478 00:26:19,724 --> 00:26:22,444 if I did any drugs, anything. I said, "No, nothing." 479 00:26:22,519 --> 00:26:23,979 "Is Simpson on premises?" 480 00:26:24,062 --> 00:26:26,022 And he goes, "No, he went to Chicago." 481 00:26:26,106 --> 00:26:30,276 He says that he went to some meeting and golf outing, 482 00:26:30,360 --> 00:26:32,610 and that he would be back the following night. 483 00:26:32,696 --> 00:26:35,066 And they asked me who lived in the other bungalow. 484 00:26:35,156 --> 00:26:36,486 I explained that Arnelle, 485 00:26:36,574 --> 00:26:39,454 O.J.'s daughter from his first marriage, lives there. 486 00:26:40,328 --> 00:26:44,418 Vannatter, Lange, and Phillips all take off for that bungalow. 487 00:26:44,499 --> 00:26:48,999 [scoffs] "We don't know who this guy is." 488 00:26:49,087 --> 00:26:51,717 We're not just going to put our backs to this guy. 489 00:26:51,798 --> 00:26:53,678 And I just stayed with him. 490 00:26:54,509 --> 00:26:57,349 {\an8}[Lange] Arnelle comes to the door, and I ask her, 491 00:26:57,429 --> 00:26:59,009 {\an8}"What's going on in the house?" 492 00:26:59,514 --> 00:27:01,104 She says, "Well, I have a key." 493 00:27:01,182 --> 00:27:02,982 Okay, so she goes and gets the key. 494 00:27:03,059 --> 00:27:06,229 So Phil stays with her, I go in the house, looking around, 495 00:27:06,813 --> 00:27:08,693 place is immaculate, no problems. 496 00:27:08,773 --> 00:27:11,283 Meanwhile, we know that Simpson's back in Chicago. 497 00:27:13,278 --> 00:27:15,278 We need to make a notification. 498 00:27:15,363 --> 00:27:17,453 Ron Phillips calls O.J. 499 00:27:17,532 --> 00:27:20,872 A male voice, which I recognize as Mr. Simpson's voice, answers the phone, 500 00:27:20,952 --> 00:27:23,252 and I ask him, I said, "Is this O.J. Simpson?" 501 00:27:23,329 --> 00:27:25,249 And he stated, "Yes, who's this?" 502 00:27:25,749 --> 00:27:28,289 I said, "This is Detective Phillips from the LAPD." 503 00:27:28,376 --> 00:27:29,916 "I have some bad news for you." 504 00:27:30,003 --> 00:27:33,553 He didn't tell him how, but he said, your wife has died. 505 00:27:33,631 --> 00:27:37,591 [Phillips] "Your ex-wife, Nicole Simpson, has been killed." 506 00:27:37,677 --> 00:27:40,307 I think his first words were something to the effect, 507 00:27:40,388 --> 00:27:43,598 "Oh my God, Nicole was killed," or "Oh my God, she's dead." 508 00:27:43,683 --> 00:27:46,063 And then he got very upset on the telephone. 509 00:27:46,144 --> 00:27:48,274 "We need to get you to come back here." 510 00:27:48,354 --> 00:27:50,274 "Uh… We have the children." 511 00:27:50,356 --> 00:27:51,686 And he stopped and he said, 512 00:27:51,775 --> 00:27:54,185 "What do you mean my children are at the police station?" 513 00:27:54,277 --> 00:27:56,567 I said, "We had no place else to take 'em." 514 00:27:56,654 --> 00:27:59,454 At that time he said, "I'm gonna be leaving out of Chicago 515 00:27:59,532 --> 00:28:01,032 on the first available flight." 516 00:28:01,117 --> 00:28:03,697 [Lange] Doesn't ask about what happened or anything else. 517 00:28:05,413 --> 00:28:08,253 Not a lot of questions from Simpson. 518 00:28:08,333 --> 00:28:11,003 He's never asked, "By the way, how are my kids doing?" 519 00:28:11,753 --> 00:28:14,263 Or, "How did she die? Who would kill her?" 520 00:28:14,339 --> 00:28:17,429 We don't get any of that, which just doesn't make any damn sense. 521 00:28:17,509 --> 00:28:19,509 {\an8}[mysterious music playing] 522 00:28:21,012 --> 00:28:24,182 {\an8}[Fuhrman] I just stayed in this bungalow with Kato. 523 00:28:25,016 --> 00:28:28,016 And I said, "Hey, did anything unusual happen last night? 524 00:28:29,604 --> 00:28:32,074 And I told him, "I don't know if this means anything, 525 00:28:32,148 --> 00:28:34,148 but this picture…" I showed him the picture, 526 00:28:34,234 --> 00:28:35,904 "…moved on my wall." 527 00:28:35,985 --> 00:28:38,815 "And I heard this noise. Did we have an earthquake?" 528 00:28:39,906 --> 00:28:42,406 "What do you mean, earthquake?" So I just stop. 529 00:28:45,620 --> 00:28:49,330 I just walk outside and I kind of orient myself. 530 00:28:50,625 --> 00:28:53,035 Where's Kato's south wall? 531 00:28:53,127 --> 00:28:55,957 And just exactly what was he talking about? 532 00:28:56,047 --> 00:28:58,717 So then I see I have to go around. 533 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,760 And then I come down this walkway. 534 00:29:00,844 --> 00:29:03,894 I'm looking around and then I look down. 535 00:29:04,514 --> 00:29:06,354 And I looked at this object. 536 00:29:06,432 --> 00:29:08,432 [music intensifies] 537 00:29:10,937 --> 00:29:12,727 And it looked like… 538 00:29:14,190 --> 00:29:15,190 [camera clicks] 539 00:29:15,275 --> 00:29:16,475 …a glove. 540 00:29:21,781 --> 00:29:24,201 It's that kind of "holy shit" moment. 541 00:29:24,284 --> 00:29:25,244 [camera clicks] 542 00:29:26,744 --> 00:29:31,674 I realized that looks like the same glove that's at Bundy. 543 00:29:32,709 --> 00:29:36,129 And I said, "Detective Lange, let me show you something." 544 00:29:36,713 --> 00:29:39,223 It looks like it's a right-handed glove. 545 00:29:39,299 --> 00:29:40,839 You can kind of see the thumb. 546 00:29:41,759 --> 00:29:44,469 We know that it's a left-handed glove at Bundy. 547 00:29:44,554 --> 00:29:45,974 At that moment… 548 00:29:48,224 --> 00:29:49,434 this was a crime scene. 549 00:29:49,976 --> 00:29:54,686 We now need to obtain a search warrant before we can search for anything. 550 00:29:58,192 --> 00:30:01,782 [woman] When you came back out with Detective Lange, what happened next? 551 00:30:02,780 --> 00:30:07,580 Detective Lange and Vannatter, um, were involved in conversation. 552 00:30:07,660 --> 00:30:10,410 Phil and I decide, well, Phil's going to go back. 553 00:30:10,496 --> 00:30:11,996 He's gonna do the search warrant. 554 00:30:12,081 --> 00:30:17,131 I'm going to return to the crime scene and start the crime scene investigation. 555 00:30:17,211 --> 00:30:21,051 There's a bunch of discussion, and Vannatter says… 556 00:30:21,716 --> 00:30:26,386 I ask him to go back to the Bundy location to look at the other glove 557 00:30:26,471 --> 00:30:31,641 and to, um… make sure that I was seeing what I was seeing. 558 00:30:32,518 --> 00:30:37,568 And he goes, "Go to Bundy, get close to the glove, look at it…" 559 00:30:37,649 --> 00:30:42,699 To see if there was a similarity, if we had a right and a left. 560 00:30:44,155 --> 00:30:48,365 I go back to Bundy. There's a photographer that was there. 561 00:30:48,952 --> 00:30:51,872 Detective Phillips instructed me to get a photographer 562 00:30:51,955 --> 00:30:55,785 to photograph the glove in its original position, 563 00:30:55,875 --> 00:30:59,835 and if I needed to, move it to inspect it any further. 564 00:30:59,921 --> 00:31:05,261 We could, in other words, photo it as we originally found it. 565 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:11,020 So I had to figure out how I'm going to step over Nicole, 566 00:31:11,099 --> 00:31:12,679 not step in blood, 567 00:31:14,102 --> 00:31:16,522 squat down, inspect the glove, 568 00:31:16,604 --> 00:31:20,274 and get out without stepping, tripping over, or walking in blood. 569 00:31:20,358 --> 00:31:21,188 [camera clicks] 570 00:31:22,610 --> 00:31:25,490 Somehow… I did it. 571 00:31:25,571 --> 00:31:26,451 [camera clicks] 572 00:31:28,616 --> 00:31:31,826 [Lange] Back at Bundy, the press was starting to show up. 573 00:31:31,911 --> 00:31:34,331 The word is out. They're already making inquiries. 574 00:31:35,206 --> 00:31:38,576 When the sun came up… we've got a problem. 575 00:31:38,668 --> 00:31:40,248 [tense, dramatic music playing] 576 00:31:40,336 --> 00:31:41,876 I will never forget that day. 577 00:31:41,963 --> 00:31:44,223 I got a phone call from the managing editor. 578 00:31:44,924 --> 00:31:47,054 He said, "We have a situation in Brentwood 579 00:31:47,135 --> 00:31:50,045 where O.J. Simpson's wife has been murdered." 580 00:31:50,138 --> 00:31:53,928 And I remember thinking, "Well, you don't have murders in Brentwood very often." 581 00:31:54,017 --> 00:31:56,267 I made my way down to the crime scene there, 582 00:31:56,352 --> 00:31:58,272 and it was quite the scene. 583 00:31:58,354 --> 00:32:02,194 The situation just wasn't your run-of-the-mill murder. 584 00:32:02,275 --> 00:32:06,025 You knew it involved O.J. Simpson. You knew it was in Brentwood. 585 00:32:06,112 --> 00:32:08,572 And those two things there meant that this was a case 586 00:32:08,656 --> 00:32:11,326 very different from anything you'd covered before. 587 00:32:11,409 --> 00:32:13,829 [male reporter 1] The body of 34-year-old Nicole Brown Simpson, 588 00:32:13,911 --> 00:32:16,661 ex-wife of O.J. Simpson, was found after midnight. 589 00:32:16,748 --> 00:32:19,748 [male reporter 2] She used to be married to former football star, O.J. Simpson. 590 00:32:19,834 --> 00:32:22,754 They will not say whether Mr. Simpson is a suspect. 591 00:32:23,254 --> 00:32:26,304 They're setting up cameras, 112 feet, I measured it, 592 00:32:26,883 --> 00:32:30,723 across the street, on the knoll, looking down on Nicole's body. 593 00:32:31,220 --> 00:32:34,060 Cameras that could highlight a human hair at 200 feet. 594 00:32:34,849 --> 00:32:38,269 The body is evidence. Everything on the body is evidence. 595 00:32:38,811 --> 00:32:41,481 It has to be protected from compromise. 596 00:32:42,648 --> 00:32:45,188 First job at a crime scene is to protect the evidence. 597 00:32:45,276 --> 00:32:49,156 I'm not gonna be able to sit down, whether it's O.J. Simpson or another suspect, 598 00:32:49,238 --> 00:32:53,198 and discuss with that person evidence to see if they know something. 599 00:32:53,284 --> 00:32:57,004 If I see all of that evidence on the news tonight from one of those cameras, 600 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,080 I've lost it. 601 00:32:59,332 --> 00:33:02,042 I had an officer go inside. I said, "I want you to find 602 00:33:02,126 --> 00:33:05,546 a clean, hospital-type blanket… to cover the body." 603 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,090 You do the last thing that you want to do, 604 00:33:10,176 --> 00:33:13,256 and that's notify a family of a death notification. 605 00:33:13,346 --> 00:33:16,556 I've done that several times. It's the worst part of being a cop. 606 00:33:16,641 --> 00:33:21,441 She has parents living in Orange County, in the South Bay area, the Browns. 607 00:33:22,105 --> 00:33:26,145 And I said, "I'm sorry to have to tell you that your daughter's been killed." 608 00:33:26,734 --> 00:33:28,574 And then I hear the screaming. 609 00:33:29,821 --> 00:33:32,951 "That MF-er, that son of a bitch, he killed her!" On the phone. 610 00:33:33,032 --> 00:33:35,832 {\an8}And I said, "Oh my God, he finally did it." 611 00:33:36,953 --> 00:33:38,203 {\an8}And he said, "Who?" 612 00:33:38,746 --> 00:33:40,406 And, of course, I said his name. 613 00:33:40,498 --> 00:33:43,748 The woman screaming is Denise, the older sister of Nicole. 614 00:33:44,335 --> 00:33:46,795 "It's O.J., it's O.J. I know he did it." 615 00:33:46,879 --> 00:33:50,549 "That son of a bitch, he's gonna do this? That MF-er." All this screaming. 616 00:33:50,633 --> 00:33:53,513 He did it. You murdered Nicole. You know you did it. 617 00:33:53,594 --> 00:33:56,764 In my mind, he would be a potential suspect. 618 00:33:56,848 --> 00:33:59,348 When I say potential, that's somebody we need to talk to. 619 00:33:59,433 --> 00:34:01,813 Okay, what time did he get on the flight? 620 00:34:02,645 --> 00:34:04,305 Let's get the limo driver. 621 00:34:04,397 --> 00:34:07,727 My order was to pick up Mr. Simpson at 10:45. 622 00:34:07,817 --> 00:34:10,027 What time was he here? What did he see? 623 00:34:11,821 --> 00:34:13,321 We need a time of death. 624 00:34:13,406 --> 00:34:15,156 I became aware of a barking. 625 00:34:15,241 --> 00:34:19,581 We need all these things to start to create the timetable. 626 00:34:19,662 --> 00:34:24,172 It seems like it would be quite a leap that this guy committed two murders, 627 00:34:24,250 --> 00:34:25,630 took a shower, cleaned up, 628 00:34:25,710 --> 00:34:29,170 got into a limo, got to the airport, got to Chicago. 629 00:34:30,089 --> 00:34:32,089 [tense music builds] 630 00:34:33,384 --> 00:34:37,184 At Bundy, they've got a very difficult crime scene to process. 631 00:34:39,599 --> 00:34:42,769 We gotta get everything we can get done before the media sticks their nose in it 632 00:34:42,852 --> 00:34:44,602 and just gets in the way of things. 633 00:34:47,356 --> 00:34:50,066 I want criminalists, I want print people, 634 00:34:50,151 --> 00:34:54,611 I want photographers, and I want other people to expand our search. 635 00:34:55,156 --> 00:34:56,866 {\an8}My name is Dennis Fung. 636 00:34:56,949 --> 00:34:59,489 {\an8}Dennis Fung is a criminalist at the crime scene. 637 00:35:01,537 --> 00:35:04,167 When he records evidence, it's got to be photographed. 638 00:35:04,248 --> 00:35:06,628 [camera clicking] 639 00:35:08,669 --> 00:35:11,299 It's got to be collected by him in a certain manner. 640 00:35:11,380 --> 00:35:13,880 I never worked with Dennis before. I didn't know him. 641 00:35:13,966 --> 00:35:15,636 He seemed bright. 642 00:35:15,718 --> 00:35:18,888 I don't think he had a lot of experience with high-profile cases. 643 00:35:19,722 --> 00:35:22,522 The nature of the processing by police, 644 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,730 there just were a lot of people there, 645 00:35:24,810 --> 00:35:27,690 and we're still trying to figure out who the other guy was. 646 00:35:27,772 --> 00:35:29,862 [camera clicking] 647 00:35:29,941 --> 00:35:33,491 Eventually, the second victim was identified as Ron Goldman. 648 00:35:34,237 --> 00:35:37,867 He was a young man that's obviously been in some kind of a fight, 649 00:35:37,949 --> 00:35:39,239 an altercation, 650 00:35:39,325 --> 00:35:41,195 been stabbed several times. 651 00:35:41,285 --> 00:35:42,245 [music stops] 652 00:35:43,913 --> 00:35:45,923 [gentle, ominous music playing] 653 00:35:46,707 --> 00:35:50,457 [woman] I went home as I normally did after my shift was over at the bank, 654 00:35:50,544 --> 00:35:54,474 and my boyfriend at the time was home, which was unusual. 655 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,390 He looked at me square in the eye, said, "You need to call your dad." 656 00:36:00,471 --> 00:36:02,851 And I'm like, "I'm good. I just walked in the door." 657 00:36:02,932 --> 00:36:04,482 "No, you need to call your dad." 658 00:36:04,558 --> 00:36:07,978 And then I started thinking that maybe this was Joe's way of 659 00:36:08,062 --> 00:36:11,772 luring me into the guest bedroom 'cause he was gonna propose to me. [laughs] 660 00:36:11,857 --> 00:36:14,777 So, I unsuspectingly went in there, and then when there was no ring, 661 00:36:14,860 --> 00:36:17,450 I'm like, "I guess I'm here. I might as well call my dad." 662 00:36:19,115 --> 00:36:22,025 And my dad picked up, and my dad's wife got on the phone, 663 00:36:22,118 --> 00:36:24,288 and they said, "Did you see the news today?" 664 00:36:24,370 --> 00:36:27,250 And I said, "No." "You didn't see the news?" I said, "No." 665 00:36:28,207 --> 00:36:29,537 "Did you see O.J. Simpson?" 666 00:36:29,625 --> 00:36:31,785 "What is happening? What are you talking about?" 667 00:36:31,877 --> 00:36:34,417 And then my dad told me that my brother died, and… 668 00:36:36,841 --> 00:36:39,761 And then I just remember, like, dropping to my knees 669 00:36:39,844 --> 00:36:42,354 and kind of just spiraling at that point, and then… 670 00:36:43,431 --> 00:36:46,351 The first time that I heard what actually happened to him 671 00:36:46,434 --> 00:36:48,314 was a couple hours later in the car. 672 00:36:48,894 --> 00:36:53,074 The radio was on, and the newscaster said 673 00:36:53,149 --> 00:36:55,649 that today Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman 674 00:36:55,735 --> 00:36:58,315 were found slaughtered to death in Brentwood, California. 675 00:37:01,115 --> 00:37:04,325 It's a vicious cycle, because I don't want to be here. 676 00:37:04,410 --> 00:37:05,870 And I don't want to do this. 677 00:37:05,953 --> 00:37:09,293 But if I wasn't, my brother wouldn't be part of it. 678 00:37:09,373 --> 00:37:10,503 And so… 679 00:37:12,251 --> 00:37:15,251 I have to… and other victims and survivors, 680 00:37:15,338 --> 00:37:18,508 whether they're high-profile or not, we have to keep doing this. 681 00:37:18,591 --> 00:37:23,471 If there is an opportunity for me to educate and to soften you 682 00:37:23,554 --> 00:37:28,604 and to remind you that it wasn't just about the killer. 683 00:37:29,810 --> 00:37:34,320 [crying] My brother was barely 25 years old and lost his entire life 684 00:37:35,191 --> 00:37:38,821 because somebody else thought that they had the power to take it. 685 00:37:38,903 --> 00:37:40,913 [solemn music playing] 686 00:37:44,492 --> 00:37:47,752 My brother and I were exceptionally close. 687 00:37:47,828 --> 00:37:53,538 He was funny, he was gregarious, his energy was infectious. 688 00:37:54,418 --> 00:37:56,208 My brother moved to Brentwood, 689 00:37:57,088 --> 00:38:02,298 fell in love with the sunshine, the beach, the women, the carefree mentality. 690 00:38:02,385 --> 00:38:03,715 He was in his early twenties, 691 00:38:03,803 --> 00:38:06,013 just trying to figure out what he wanted to do. 692 00:38:06,097 --> 00:38:09,637 We don't get to spend much time together, so I'm very glad I was able to be here 693 00:38:09,725 --> 00:38:12,805 and spend this time with you 'cause God knows where I'll be in a year. 694 00:38:12,895 --> 00:38:14,725 We raced to the airport, 695 00:38:14,814 --> 00:38:16,074 got on a flight, 696 00:38:16,148 --> 00:38:19,648 and I just collapsed into my dad's arms. 697 00:38:20,486 --> 00:38:21,446 [music fades out] 698 00:38:21,529 --> 00:38:24,619 We're learning more about the man who was killed beside Nicole Simpson. 699 00:38:24,698 --> 00:38:27,948 [male reporter 1] The man who was murdered with Nicole Simpson was Ron Goldman. 700 00:38:28,035 --> 00:38:31,535 Over time, we found out that the second murder victim was Ron Goldman, 701 00:38:31,622 --> 00:38:35,882 a waiter at Mezzaluna, a restaurant not far away. 702 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,090 [male reporter 2] The Mezzaluna co-workers still say, for all they know, 703 00:38:39,171 --> 00:38:42,131 Nicole Simpson and Ronald Goldman were just friends. 704 00:38:42,675 --> 00:38:45,085 My brother and Nicole knew each other from Brentwood. 705 00:38:45,177 --> 00:38:47,887 It's a very small "bedroom community," 706 00:38:47,972 --> 00:38:50,722 so everybody kind of ran in the same circles. 707 00:38:50,808 --> 00:38:51,928 Um, they were friends. 708 00:38:52,017 --> 00:38:54,267 I don't think I connected why he was there 709 00:38:54,353 --> 00:38:58,113 until we learned the information about him returning the glasses. 710 00:38:58,190 --> 00:39:01,780 Nicole and her family went for dinner at Mezzaluna. 711 00:39:02,278 --> 00:39:06,158 [Lange] Nicole's mother, Judith Brown, lost her glasses at the Mezzaluna. 712 00:39:07,241 --> 00:39:09,451 She didn't know where, so she called Nicole. 713 00:39:10,161 --> 00:39:13,001 Nicole, now, said she'd phoned the Mezzaluna, 714 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:14,500 so I ran phone records. 715 00:39:14,582 --> 00:39:16,132 It was at 9:42. 716 00:39:16,208 --> 00:39:18,788 That was the last anybody heard from Nicole. 717 00:39:19,378 --> 00:39:21,458 The assistant manager went outside, 718 00:39:21,547 --> 00:39:25,717 and in the gutter outside finds the prescription glasses. 719 00:39:26,427 --> 00:39:28,347 Tells that to Ron Goldman. 720 00:39:28,429 --> 00:39:29,889 He says, "I know her." 721 00:39:29,972 --> 00:39:32,982 "I can drop those glasses by the house when I get off." 722 00:39:33,058 --> 00:39:33,978 [camera clicks] 723 00:39:36,020 --> 00:39:38,520 He was just willing to do whatever he could for anybody, 724 00:39:38,606 --> 00:39:40,186 and so he offered to drop them off. 725 00:39:40,274 --> 00:39:42,284 [eerie music playing] 726 00:39:46,363 --> 00:39:49,873 The photographer followed Roberts and I back to Rockingham. 727 00:39:49,950 --> 00:39:55,330 So we got back there about 7:30. 728 00:39:56,207 --> 00:39:59,457 It was daylight, and Mark had taken me to the Bronco 729 00:39:59,543 --> 00:40:03,093 and showed me the blood smudge that was by the door handle of the car. 730 00:40:03,172 --> 00:40:06,302 And I went around to the passenger side, and I looked inside of it, 731 00:40:06,383 --> 00:40:08,763 and I said, "Mark, get over here and take a look at this." 732 00:40:10,721 --> 00:40:12,641 There was blood everywhere inside the Bronco. 733 00:40:12,723 --> 00:40:15,813 There was blood on the steering wheel, blood on the center console. 734 00:40:15,893 --> 00:40:18,153 It was all over the inside of that car. 735 00:40:19,146 --> 00:40:22,066 [Fuhrman] And then Brad walks to the rear of the vehicle, 736 00:40:22,650 --> 00:40:25,530 and he goes, "Huh, blood drops." 737 00:40:28,697 --> 00:40:29,777 [camera clicks] 738 00:40:32,535 --> 00:40:36,155 [Roberts] There was multiple blood drops going through the back of the Bronco, 739 00:40:37,748 --> 00:40:40,788 and then all the way up the driveway right to the front door. 740 00:40:43,921 --> 00:40:45,841 And I go, "You're shitting me." 741 00:40:45,923 --> 00:40:47,423 [ominous music playing] 742 00:40:48,342 --> 00:40:50,512 While we were waiting for the search warrant, 743 00:40:50,594 --> 00:40:51,764 I took two phone calls. 744 00:40:51,845 --> 00:40:54,885 I pick up the first phone call from Ron Shipp. 745 00:40:55,683 --> 00:40:57,943 He was an officer on LAPD. 746 00:40:58,018 --> 00:41:00,058 He was friends with Simpson. 747 00:41:00,145 --> 00:41:01,975 I got a page from my mother. 748 00:41:02,064 --> 00:41:06,864 She goes, "O.J. Simpson's wife, ex-wife, just died." 749 00:41:06,944 --> 00:41:08,244 [music intensifies] 750 00:41:09,530 --> 00:41:11,280 [male reporter] Shipp's a former LAPD cop 751 00:41:11,365 --> 00:41:13,905 and was also a longtime friend of O.J. Simpson's. 752 00:41:13,993 --> 00:41:16,543 How and when did you first hear about the murders, Ron? 753 00:41:16,620 --> 00:41:22,540 First thing I did, just out of… shock, you know, I called the house. 754 00:41:23,669 --> 00:41:27,799 I called the house, and Mark Fuhrman answered the phone. 755 00:41:28,299 --> 00:41:29,679 I knew Mark pretty good. 756 00:41:29,758 --> 00:41:31,088 And I said, "Mark." 757 00:41:31,176 --> 00:41:34,006 I said, "Is Nicole dead?" 758 00:41:34,096 --> 00:41:36,426 - [music stops] - And he said, "Yeah." 759 00:41:36,515 --> 00:41:39,095 And I said, "Did O.J. do it?" 760 00:41:39,810 --> 00:41:42,980 "Ron, I can't tell you." And he goes, "Come on." 761 00:41:43,063 --> 00:41:46,903 "Mark, this is me." You know, I'm trying to be like, "Hey, cops, buddy." 762 00:41:47,943 --> 00:41:50,033 He says, "I can't answer that." 763 00:41:54,033 --> 00:41:56,243 O.J. Simpson, University of Southern California. 764 00:41:56,327 --> 00:41:59,497 [presenter laughs] O.J. That O stands for Orenthal. 765 00:41:59,580 --> 00:42:00,790 [audience laughs] 766 00:42:00,873 --> 00:42:02,213 He runs the 100 in 9.4. 767 00:42:02,291 --> 00:42:04,881 And with a name like Orenthal, you have to run fast. 768 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:06,550 [audience laughs] 769 00:42:06,629 --> 00:42:07,839 Thank you, O.J. 770 00:42:07,921 --> 00:42:09,721 [pensive music playing] 771 00:42:09,798 --> 00:42:12,638 [Shipp] I was 15 years old when I first met O.J. Simpson. 772 00:42:13,135 --> 00:42:16,345 Being a superhero, being a superstar, the guy was just like… 773 00:42:16,430 --> 00:42:19,140 I was shocked on how nice he was. 774 00:42:19,224 --> 00:42:23,234 You know, he wasn't cocky. He was just like real down-to-earth. 775 00:42:24,438 --> 00:42:27,978 Everybody that came around him, I mean, you were his best friend. 776 00:42:28,859 --> 00:42:30,529 I said, "This guy is incredible." 777 00:42:30,611 --> 00:42:32,531 Your childhood. What kind of kid were you? 778 00:42:32,613 --> 00:42:36,083 I was a good kid. I got in trouble a lot. I was aggressive, like most kids. 779 00:42:36,158 --> 00:42:39,618 I didn't care too much about school. All I wanted to do was play sports. 780 00:42:39,703 --> 00:42:42,873 One of the things I wanted most as a kid growing up in the ghetto 781 00:42:42,956 --> 00:42:45,326 was not money, it was fame. I wanted to be known. 782 00:42:45,417 --> 00:42:48,047 I wanted people to say, "Hey, there goes O.J." 783 00:42:48,128 --> 00:42:51,168 [Shipp] I think everybody in the football world, they all knew, 784 00:42:51,256 --> 00:42:52,676 he was probably the best. 785 00:42:52,758 --> 00:42:55,928 You know, because he was the first guy to ever run for 2,000 yards. 786 00:42:56,011 --> 00:42:59,181 But O.J., he started loving the acting. 787 00:42:59,264 --> 00:43:02,314 I think looking good while doing something is half the battle. 788 00:43:02,393 --> 00:43:05,193 So I like clothes with a lot of style and a lot of flair. 789 00:43:05,270 --> 00:43:09,480 The whole country, you know, was all just, you know, taken back by O.J. 790 00:43:09,566 --> 00:43:11,816 You have to maintain a certain image. 791 00:43:11,902 --> 00:43:13,952 [Shipp] O.J., I mean, he never said no. 792 00:43:15,364 --> 00:43:17,204 [screaming] 793 00:43:17,282 --> 00:43:18,622 There was nothing he couldn't do. 794 00:43:19,410 --> 00:43:23,500 O.J. had a lot of white people that loved him, 795 00:43:23,580 --> 00:43:26,460 and O.J. had a lot of Black people who loved him. 796 00:43:26,542 --> 00:43:27,382 My wife Marguerite. 797 00:43:27,459 --> 00:43:29,749 [O.J. Simpson] I've been called by an agency for Hertz 798 00:43:29,837 --> 00:43:32,797 that I was, as far as advertising is concerned, I was colorless. 799 00:43:32,881 --> 00:43:34,931 And for the most part, I appreciate that. 800 00:43:35,008 --> 00:43:37,428 O.J. was just, "Hey, I'm just O.J., I love everybody." 801 00:43:37,511 --> 00:43:39,851 And he did. It wasn't fake. 802 00:43:42,266 --> 00:43:43,926 You know, he loved everybody. 803 00:43:44,017 --> 00:43:45,937 It's an old saying you're a credit to your race. 804 00:43:46,019 --> 00:43:47,939 Well, I want to be a credit to the human race. 805 00:43:48,021 --> 00:43:50,231 O.J. Simpson was a special human being. 806 00:43:53,736 --> 00:43:55,066 [cheering] 807 00:43:55,154 --> 00:43:59,124 But I never in my darkest dreams would ever thought… 808 00:43:59,199 --> 00:44:01,579 I really didn't believe he would do it. 809 00:44:02,661 --> 00:44:04,661 [helicopters whirring] 810 00:44:05,664 --> 00:44:07,754 [dramatic music playing] 811 00:44:09,293 --> 00:44:13,093 We get a call that the search warrant's been signed. 812 00:44:13,172 --> 00:44:15,222 That means we can start searching. 813 00:44:18,302 --> 00:44:20,972 Criminalist Dennis, we got another job for you. 814 00:44:21,054 --> 00:44:22,644 We need you at Rockingham. 815 00:44:24,516 --> 00:44:27,016 Not only do you want a search warrant at this point, 816 00:44:27,102 --> 00:44:29,652 but it would be a good idea to get a prosecutor involved, 817 00:44:29,730 --> 00:44:31,150 get the DA's office involved. 818 00:44:32,149 --> 00:44:33,479 It's a high-profile case. 819 00:44:33,567 --> 00:44:36,777 We're going to need a prosecutor sooner or later. 820 00:44:36,862 --> 00:44:38,452 Sooner's always better than later. 821 00:44:38,530 --> 00:44:40,530 [mysterious music playing] 822 00:44:42,743 --> 00:44:48,713 Back in 1994, I was a deputy district attorney in Los Angeles County. 823 00:44:48,791 --> 00:44:52,631 I heard about the murders the same way about the same time everybody did. 824 00:44:52,711 --> 00:44:55,341 I heard about it, uh, through the media. 825 00:44:55,422 --> 00:44:57,512 My view was like, you know, 826 00:44:57,591 --> 00:45:01,091 God bless those who want to get involved in something like that. 827 00:45:06,558 --> 00:45:10,898 Just look at it. You know, it is a huge, huge clusterfuck. 828 00:45:13,106 --> 00:45:14,776 I remember when the news came on, 829 00:45:14,858 --> 00:45:20,778 and I think I saw Marcia Clark walking toward the front door at Rockingham. 830 00:45:21,365 --> 00:45:24,735 That she was there at the scene didn't really register with me 831 00:45:24,827 --> 00:45:27,497 because, look, it wasn't my case. It wasn't my problem. 832 00:45:28,330 --> 00:45:32,790 Somebody comes to the gate. It was Deputy DA Marcia Clark. 833 00:45:32,876 --> 00:45:34,876 [male interviewer] Now Marcia Clark tells her story. 834 00:45:34,962 --> 00:45:37,212 [female reporter] Her style? No nonsense, no hype. 835 00:45:37,297 --> 00:45:40,257 {\an8}People have the notion that they know celebrities, 836 00:45:40,342 --> 00:45:42,892 {\an8}and they're unwilling to let go of the image they have. 837 00:45:42,970 --> 00:45:45,970 Marcia Clark has a reputation of being an outstanding prosecutor, 838 00:45:46,056 --> 00:45:47,016 exceptionally bright. 839 00:45:47,099 --> 00:45:50,059 She said, yeah, she's free, she'll take the case. 840 00:45:50,143 --> 00:45:52,153 Marcia Clark was an experienced lawyer. 841 00:45:53,605 --> 00:45:55,855 She's a very smart woman, very capable. 842 00:45:55,941 --> 00:46:00,571 She was clearly someone who was on a trajectory to management. 843 00:46:00,654 --> 00:46:05,374 Marcia Clark had been given my name to brief, 844 00:46:06,577 --> 00:46:10,707 and they wanted to sit down at a picnic table outside. 845 00:46:10,789 --> 00:46:12,499 [helicopter whirring] 846 00:46:12,583 --> 00:46:15,503 As I'm talking, there's three choppers above us. 847 00:46:17,588 --> 00:46:20,378 And I said, "Why are we sitting out here?" 848 00:46:21,592 --> 00:46:25,552 They're not only filming us, but I can barely hear. 849 00:46:25,637 --> 00:46:28,427 So we moved to where the choppers couldn't see us. 850 00:46:28,515 --> 00:46:32,095 I don't think anybody understood just how much was going on. 851 00:46:32,185 --> 00:46:35,515 I walked her around the whole entire place, upstairs, downstairs, outside. 852 00:46:35,606 --> 00:46:37,356 I'm the guy that showed her all the evidence. 853 00:46:39,985 --> 00:46:42,565 {\an8}We get to the master bedroom. 854 00:46:43,447 --> 00:46:44,277 [camera clicks] 855 00:46:44,364 --> 00:46:46,124 Two black socks at the end of the bed. 856 00:46:48,952 --> 00:46:49,832 [camera clicks] 857 00:46:50,454 --> 00:46:51,544 I mean, it's just… 858 00:46:52,331 --> 00:46:54,831 They stand out like a pimple on a cheerleader's forehead. 859 00:46:54,917 --> 00:46:56,837 I mean, they're just right there. 860 00:46:56,919 --> 00:46:57,789 [camera clicks] 861 00:46:58,378 --> 00:47:02,008 At the top of the stairs, there's a row of cabinets. 862 00:47:02,674 --> 00:47:06,144 And Brad sees that the one door is open, 863 00:47:06,219 --> 00:47:09,009 and there's all these medical supplies that are ripped open. 864 00:47:09,097 --> 00:47:10,927 Just ripped open and just left. 865 00:47:14,061 --> 00:47:17,111 We walk in the bathroom, we see a box. 866 00:47:17,189 --> 00:47:20,649 And it looked like a knife box on the bathtub edge. 867 00:47:23,153 --> 00:47:25,033 In the laundry room downstairs, 868 00:47:25,113 --> 00:47:28,333 there was a smudge of what I believe was blood on the light switch. 869 00:47:30,994 --> 00:47:36,254 There was fresh clothes in the washing machine, 870 00:47:37,334 --> 00:47:38,754 still damp. 871 00:47:41,213 --> 00:47:45,933 Nobody documented it, took photographs of it, or anything else, 872 00:47:46,009 --> 00:47:47,509 because nobody told anybody. 873 00:47:47,594 --> 00:47:49,054 No communication. 874 00:47:49,721 --> 00:47:54,061 If you think something is evidence, tell somebody, so we can do something. 875 00:47:54,142 --> 00:47:57,812 If Brad Roberts or Mark Fuhrman found a knife box or anything else, 876 00:47:57,896 --> 00:47:58,896 tell somebody. 877 00:47:58,981 --> 00:48:01,571 Mark handed his notes off to Ron Phillips. 878 00:48:01,650 --> 00:48:07,700 I saw Phillips hand my notes to Vannatter. 879 00:48:08,365 --> 00:48:12,235 Vannatter opened up his binder, put them in, closed his binder, 880 00:48:12,327 --> 00:48:13,697 tucked it under his arm. 881 00:48:13,787 --> 00:48:16,457 If it's that important, you tell us about it. 882 00:48:16,540 --> 00:48:18,330 You should've told somebody about it. 883 00:48:18,417 --> 00:48:20,377 We have to wait before we get to your notes? 884 00:48:20,460 --> 00:48:22,500 He did not look at the notes. 885 00:48:22,587 --> 00:48:26,217 Because Fuhrman says that makes it so, right? 886 00:48:26,299 --> 00:48:29,389 We believe everything Mark Fuhrman says. He wouldn't lie, would he? 887 00:48:31,179 --> 00:48:33,019 [ominous music playing] 888 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,930 [male reporter] Simpson's attorney says the ex-star 889 00:48:36,018 --> 00:48:37,768 took a late-night flight to Chicago 890 00:48:37,853 --> 00:48:42,823 and returned noon Monday after being contacted by police at his Chicago hotel. 891 00:48:43,525 --> 00:48:46,315 Roberts and I are kind of searching the office, 892 00:48:46,403 --> 00:48:49,663 and he goes, "Simpson's coming up the driveway." 893 00:48:49,740 --> 00:48:51,240 [music continues] 894 00:48:55,454 --> 00:48:59,794 He came walking very strongly up into his driveway and up into the front yard. 895 00:49:00,625 --> 00:49:02,625 A police officer ran up behind him. 896 00:49:03,211 --> 00:49:05,761 [Fuhrman] He said, "You're not coming in, Mr. Simpson." 897 00:49:05,839 --> 00:49:07,919 As soon as he walked in the Rockingham Gate, 898 00:49:08,008 --> 00:49:09,298 he grabs him, handcuffs him. 899 00:49:10,761 --> 00:49:12,101 [woman] Please stand back. 900 00:49:13,638 --> 00:49:17,268 I exited the residence and walked to where Mr. Simpson was. 901 00:49:18,185 --> 00:49:20,185 He asked me to take the handcuffs off. 902 00:49:20,270 --> 00:49:24,020 I explained the reason I was there, what was happening. 903 00:49:24,941 --> 00:49:27,401 [Roberts] He was standing in the front yard on the grass, 904 00:49:27,486 --> 00:49:29,986 and Vannatter asked me to go out there and be with him. 905 00:49:30,072 --> 00:49:31,822 I walked out there and stood next to him. 906 00:49:32,574 --> 00:49:35,954 O.J. looked at me and says, "What's all the police here for?" 907 00:49:37,037 --> 00:49:40,367 I said, "Well, there's a blood trail leading from there to here." 908 00:49:41,041 --> 00:49:42,501 He goes, "A blood trail?" 909 00:49:43,043 --> 00:49:44,673 I said, "Yeah, a blood trail." 910 00:49:45,253 --> 00:49:47,763 And he just went quiet, 911 00:49:47,839 --> 00:49:49,759 started sweating and hyperventilating 912 00:49:49,841 --> 00:49:54,101 and really heavy breathing, and started going, "Oh, man. Oh, man," 913 00:49:54,179 --> 00:49:55,509 over and over again. 914 00:49:56,890 --> 00:50:01,690 I had asked him voluntarily to accompany me to Parker Center for an interview. 915 00:50:01,770 --> 00:50:03,150 He agreed to that. 916 00:50:03,230 --> 00:50:08,820 Okay, this is the final warning. Everyone step back, please. 917 00:50:08,902 --> 00:50:12,862 Phil Vannatter now decides that he's taking him downtown 918 00:50:12,948 --> 00:50:15,198 to Parker Center for an interrogation. 919 00:50:15,283 --> 00:50:17,293 [indistinct chatter] 920 00:50:20,122 --> 00:50:21,412 O.J., what can you say? 921 00:50:21,498 --> 00:50:23,168 - Back up. - O.J., any comments at all? 922 00:50:23,250 --> 00:50:24,330 Step back. 923 00:50:24,417 --> 00:50:26,127 You don't know anything, you say? 924 00:50:26,211 --> 00:50:27,381 Please step back. 925 00:50:27,462 --> 00:50:29,802 Have you been told you're under arrest, O.J.? 926 00:50:32,134 --> 00:50:35,514 [Lange] We have an obligation to sit down and talk to this individual, 927 00:50:35,595 --> 00:50:37,215 and ask him a whole lot of questions. 928 00:50:38,265 --> 00:50:40,925 [slow, dramatic music playing] 929 00:50:41,518 --> 00:50:47,648 The date is June 13th, 1994, and the time is 13:35 hours. 930 00:50:47,732 --> 00:50:49,402 And we're here with O.J. Simpson. 931 00:50:51,194 --> 00:50:53,704 All right, what we're going to do is we want to… 932 00:50:54,823 --> 00:51:00,543 We're investigating, obviously, the death of your ex-wife and another man. 933 00:51:00,620 --> 00:51:02,460 What was your relationship with her? 934 00:51:02,539 --> 00:51:05,669 Well, we tried to get back together, and it just didn't work. 935 00:51:05,750 --> 00:51:09,710 It wasn't working. And so we were going our separate ways. 936 00:51:09,796 --> 00:51:12,626 He's doing this jumping around, not giving us direct answers. 937 00:51:13,383 --> 00:51:14,723 {\an8}What do you think happened? 938 00:51:14,801 --> 00:51:16,931 {\an8}- Do you have any idea? - I have no idea, man. 939 00:51:17,012 --> 00:51:19,392 You guys haven't told me anything. 940 00:51:20,140 --> 00:51:22,350 And I look down, and his finger's bleeding. 941 00:51:22,434 --> 00:51:25,234 So he lets the male nurse who we have in the jail 942 00:51:25,312 --> 00:51:27,902 take a look at his finger, also photograph it. 943 00:51:27,981 --> 00:51:28,901 [camera clicks] 944 00:51:29,900 --> 00:51:33,530 It appeared that he had an injured knuckle on the middle finger of his left hand. 945 00:51:34,738 --> 00:51:37,448 Going back to the original crime scene at Bundy, 946 00:51:37,532 --> 00:51:42,622 it would appear that he had the injury that would have caused those blood drops 947 00:51:42,704 --> 00:51:45,044 on the left side of the bloody footprints. 948 00:51:45,874 --> 00:51:47,714 How did you get the injury on your hand? 949 00:51:47,792 --> 00:51:48,712 I don't know. 950 00:51:49,211 --> 00:51:53,921 I ask him about his bleeding finger. We get three different responses. 951 00:51:54,007 --> 00:51:56,427 I know I had it when I was in Chicago. 952 00:51:56,509 --> 00:51:57,969 How did you do it in Chicago? 953 00:51:58,053 --> 00:51:59,433 I broke a glass. 954 00:51:59,512 --> 00:52:02,352 [female reporter] In his Chicago hotel room, they later found a towel 955 00:52:02,432 --> 00:52:03,522 smeared with blood. 956 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,560 One of you guys had just called me. 957 00:52:05,644 --> 00:52:07,154 And I was in the bathroom. 958 00:52:07,229 --> 00:52:09,729 and I just kind of went bonkers for a little bit. 959 00:52:09,814 --> 00:52:13,994 He might have cut it back in Chicago when he broke a glass. 960 00:52:14,069 --> 00:52:15,359 Is that how you cut it? 961 00:52:15,445 --> 00:52:18,235 {\an8}Mm, it was cut before, but I think I just opened it again. 962 00:52:18,323 --> 00:52:19,413 {\an8}I don't… I'm not sure. 963 00:52:19,491 --> 00:52:21,911 {\an8}Then in the end, he said, "I don't know how I did it." 964 00:52:21,993 --> 00:52:24,753 I recall bleeding at my house 965 00:52:24,829 --> 00:52:26,159 and then I went to… 966 00:52:26,248 --> 00:52:27,788 went to the Bronco. 967 00:52:27,874 --> 00:52:30,344 And we go through this interview, in only 33 minutes, 968 00:52:30,418 --> 00:52:33,508 I get a dozen inconsistent statements. 969 00:52:33,588 --> 00:52:35,798 Yeah, I knew I was bleeding, but it was no big deal. 970 00:52:35,882 --> 00:52:39,302 I bleed all the time. I mean… I'm always… I play golf and stuff. 971 00:52:39,386 --> 00:52:41,596 There's always something, nicks and stuff. 972 00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,680 Get out on that golf course and hit that little white ball. 973 00:52:44,766 --> 00:52:47,806 When someone tells you something, gives an inconsistent statement, 974 00:52:47,894 --> 00:52:50,984 and they do it over and over and over and over, 975 00:52:51,064 --> 00:52:53,534 is there a possibility that they're lying to you? 976 00:52:53,608 --> 00:52:56,568 {\an8}Did Mr. Weitzman, your attorney, talk to you about this polygraph? 977 00:52:56,653 --> 00:52:58,783 I'm sure eventually I'll do it, but it's like, 978 00:52:58,863 --> 00:53:00,913 I've got some weird thoughts now. 979 00:53:00,991 --> 00:53:02,701 I said, "Would you take a polygraph?" 980 00:53:02,784 --> 00:53:05,334 "I'll think about it. I might take a polygraph." 981 00:53:06,037 --> 00:53:09,497 We've got some blood on and in your car, 982 00:53:10,625 --> 00:53:12,745 we have some blood at your house, 983 00:53:14,212 --> 00:53:17,052 and sort of a problem. 984 00:53:17,132 --> 00:53:18,722 Well, take my blood test. 985 00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:20,180 {\an8}Well, we'd like to do that. 986 00:53:20,802 --> 00:53:23,102 {\an8}We've got, of course, the cut on your finger 987 00:53:23,179 --> 00:53:24,929 {\an8}that you're not really clear on. 988 00:53:28,685 --> 00:53:30,395 He says, "Yeah, I'll give you blood." 989 00:53:31,688 --> 00:53:34,318 Once they get the blood, I don't have to ask him anything. 990 00:53:34,941 --> 00:53:36,781 Blood's going to do the talking. 991 00:53:37,986 --> 00:53:41,736 District Attorney is not gonna go with any case, let alone a high-profile case, 992 00:53:41,823 --> 00:53:43,833 without knowing they've got solid evidence. 993 00:53:43,908 --> 00:53:46,368 But it's going to take some time to get the blood back. 994 00:53:48,955 --> 00:53:52,165 [male reporter 1] Mr. Simpson, are you a suspect in this? Anything you can say? 995 00:53:52,250 --> 00:53:54,340 O.J., are you a suspect? 996 00:53:54,419 --> 00:53:56,589 You look like you're really upset by all of this. 997 00:54:00,967 --> 00:54:04,297 [male reporter 2] The bottom line at this point, says a police spokesman, is this. 998 00:54:04,387 --> 00:54:08,477 No one has been arrested in this case. No one has been charged. 999 00:54:08,975 --> 00:54:11,895 Once again, O.J. Simpson is not a suspect in this case. 1000 00:54:11,978 --> 00:54:13,688 He was released after questioning… 1001 00:54:13,772 --> 00:54:17,822 It was clear by the end of the day that O.J. was related to this case 1002 00:54:17,901 --> 00:54:20,701 more than just being the ex-husband. 1003 00:54:20,779 --> 00:54:23,949 Once again, the investigation continues here at O.J. Simpson's home. 1004 00:54:24,032 --> 00:54:26,032 It looks like it's going well into the night. 1005 00:54:26,117 --> 00:54:27,907 Conan Nolan reporting live from Brentwood. 1006 00:54:29,329 --> 00:54:31,789 [Fuhrman] At the end of the day, I get a phone call. 1007 00:54:31,873 --> 00:54:32,923 "You're relieved." 1008 00:54:34,167 --> 00:54:35,207 That's it. 1009 00:54:35,293 --> 00:54:38,303 I'm tired. I haven't slept for a day and a half. 1010 00:54:38,380 --> 00:54:42,880 I can't imagine the absolute shitshow that's going to start tomorrow. 1011 00:54:44,010 --> 00:54:46,720 But it's not my case any longer. 1012 00:54:46,805 --> 00:54:48,005 Time to move on. 1013 00:54:48,973 --> 00:54:51,603 [tense music playing] 1014 00:54:54,062 --> 00:54:56,062 It was interesting that two days after the murder, 1015 00:54:56,147 --> 00:55:00,527 O.J. Simpson makes the announcement that he's switched attorneys. 1016 00:55:00,610 --> 00:55:02,110 He's hired Robert Shapiro. 1017 00:55:02,195 --> 00:55:03,945 [Nolan] O.J. Simpson has a new attorney. 1018 00:55:04,781 --> 00:55:06,871 Celebrity attorney Robert Shapiro… 1019 00:55:06,950 --> 00:55:11,120 [Nolan] Robert Shapiro was a high-end Hollywood and celebrity attorney 1020 00:55:11,204 --> 00:55:15,794 who was well-known for getting deals for his clients. 1021 00:55:15,875 --> 00:55:19,585 He was somebody you went to if you needed a negotiated settlement. 1022 00:55:22,924 --> 00:55:28,144 At the time that this murder took place, 1023 00:55:28,221 --> 00:55:34,441 {\an8}O.J. was at home awaiting to get into a limousine 1024 00:55:34,519 --> 00:55:35,939 {\an8}to take him to the airport. 1025 00:55:36,479 --> 00:55:39,069 Well-known, respected, articulate, 1026 00:55:39,149 --> 00:55:42,069 presented well to the media, which, let's be clear, 1027 00:55:42,152 --> 00:55:43,652 that was important as well. 1028 00:55:43,736 --> 00:55:46,906 I knew Bob Shapiro before he represented O.J. Simpson. 1029 00:55:46,990 --> 00:55:49,700 - [camera clicking] - He was a very popular attorney. 1030 00:55:50,452 --> 00:55:52,502 He tended to represent defendants 1031 00:55:52,579 --> 00:55:55,749 who didn't look like most of the defendants in the system. 1032 00:55:55,832 --> 00:55:58,132 He represented people with money. 1033 00:55:58,209 --> 00:55:59,459 Thank you very much. 1034 00:56:02,172 --> 00:56:04,172 - [music fades out] - [helicopter whirring] 1035 00:56:04,757 --> 00:56:08,177 O.J. Simpson remains inside his home here in this exclusive area 1036 00:56:08,261 --> 00:56:10,431 and section of Brentwood in West Los Angeles. 1037 00:56:10,513 --> 00:56:12,683 He is surrounded by family. 1038 00:56:12,765 --> 00:56:15,595 When I called the house, I called repeatedly. 1039 00:56:15,685 --> 00:56:18,805 I just kept… You know, hopefully somebody would answer. 1040 00:56:18,897 --> 00:56:21,817 Lo and behold, O.J. answers the phone. 1041 00:56:21,900 --> 00:56:25,030 I said, "I'm getting ready to head home. Should I stop by?" 1042 00:56:25,111 --> 00:56:26,361 He goes, "Come on by." 1043 00:56:26,446 --> 00:56:28,816 [on intercom] Which gate are you at, Ron? 1044 00:56:28,907 --> 00:56:30,777 [Shipp] I walked in the door. 1045 00:56:30,867 --> 00:56:33,447 He had three TVs, and he was watching every news thing 1046 00:56:33,536 --> 00:56:35,406 to see what they were saying about him. 1047 00:56:35,497 --> 00:56:38,627 When you first saw him… what do you remember? 1048 00:56:38,708 --> 00:56:40,458 What did you say? What did he say? 1049 00:56:40,543 --> 00:56:43,383 The first thing I saw, I looked at his finger. 1050 00:56:44,631 --> 00:56:46,381 You know, bandaged. 1051 00:56:46,466 --> 00:56:48,296 I asked him, "What happened?" 1052 00:56:48,384 --> 00:56:53,144 He just said, "I was out in the car trying to get my cell phone out of the…" 1053 00:56:53,223 --> 00:56:55,273 "I dropped it in there, I cut it in the seat." 1054 00:56:55,350 --> 00:56:58,980 I said, "Oh okay. All right. No big deal. Okay." 1055 00:56:59,646 --> 00:57:01,516 So somebody else comes over, 1056 00:57:01,606 --> 00:57:04,146 "Hey, O.J., how are you doing, man? What's going on?" 1057 00:57:04,234 --> 00:57:05,944 He goes, "Man, I'm hanging in there." 1058 00:57:06,528 --> 00:57:09,908 And that person goes, "O.J., what happened to your finger?" 1059 00:57:09,989 --> 00:57:14,239 He goes, "I cut my finger on a glass in Chicago." 1060 00:57:14,869 --> 00:57:18,959 So I'm looking at him like, wait, first you said you got the… 1061 00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,880 you were in the car trying to get a cell phone. 1062 00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:23,750 I got ready to leave. 1063 00:57:23,836 --> 00:57:25,836 O.J. follows me out. 1064 00:57:26,673 --> 00:57:32,143 "Hey, Ron, how long does it take DNA to come back?" 1065 00:57:32,220 --> 00:57:35,970 [laughing] And I'm thinking to myself, "Why would he want to know about DNA? 1066 00:57:36,057 --> 00:57:38,307 He said, "They asked me to take a lie detector test," 1067 00:57:38,393 --> 00:57:42,613 and I said, "Why would you not want to take the lie detector test?" 1068 00:57:42,689 --> 00:57:45,279 And he said, "I've had dreams of killing her." 1069 00:57:45,900 --> 00:57:50,070 And I was like, "He had dreams of killing her and here she's dead." 1070 00:57:50,905 --> 00:57:54,945 And I remember thinking to myself, I was like… "Wow." 1071 00:57:56,494 --> 00:58:01,544 You know, because Nicole came to me in 1989, and she says, 1072 00:58:01,624 --> 00:58:03,504 "I've got to tell you about your friend." 1073 00:58:03,585 --> 00:58:05,625 And I go, "What do you mean? What's going on?" 1074 00:58:05,712 --> 00:58:09,842 She says, "O.J. hit me." And I went… I was like, "Yeah, right." 1075 00:58:09,924 --> 00:58:13,854 She goes, "No, O.J. hit me, and this is not the first time." 1076 00:58:13,928 --> 00:58:16,848 I really couldn't believe what I was hearing, you know? 1077 00:58:16,931 --> 00:58:20,021 I said, "Come on, Nicole," and she brings me all these pictures. 1078 00:58:21,603 --> 00:58:23,863 And I went, "Wow." 1079 00:58:24,772 --> 00:58:25,862 "He did all this?" 1080 00:58:26,649 --> 00:58:31,029 The following day, I talked to O.J. and I said, "O.J., I can't believe this, man." 1081 00:58:31,112 --> 00:58:33,742 I said, "Did you slap her? Did you hit her?" 1082 00:58:34,407 --> 00:58:36,277 "Oh, no, man, it was just a thing." 1083 00:58:36,367 --> 00:58:38,907 "She was the aggressor, I was trying to hold her back." 1084 00:58:38,995 --> 00:58:42,075 And at that time, I didn't know if O.J. was lying to me. 1085 00:58:42,165 --> 00:58:43,325 But now I knew. 1086 00:58:44,125 --> 00:58:45,995 I couldn't get out of there fast enough. 1087 00:58:46,085 --> 00:58:49,915 I left O.J.'s house, and I got in my car. 1088 00:58:51,007 --> 00:58:54,427 Just very upset and tired, and now he wants to get some rest. 1089 00:58:55,011 --> 00:58:57,681 And I called my wife first, and I was crying. 1090 00:59:00,892 --> 00:59:01,852 Yep. 1091 00:59:03,436 --> 00:59:05,396 I was crying because I knew he did it. 1092 00:59:09,567 --> 00:59:11,567 [melancholy music playing] 1093 00:59:13,655 --> 00:59:15,405 [Kaelin] I attended Nicole's funeral. 1094 00:59:17,075 --> 00:59:19,155 God, the best way I can put that, 1095 00:59:19,243 --> 00:59:20,703 when I saw O.J. there, 1096 00:59:21,746 --> 00:59:23,956 was just a complete tense situation. 1097 00:59:27,335 --> 00:59:29,705 O.J. seemed like he was in a daze. 1098 00:59:29,796 --> 00:59:31,416 He walked really slow, 1099 00:59:31,506 --> 00:59:33,716 and I didn't see him even talking to people. 1100 00:59:34,759 --> 00:59:38,139 Going to the funeral, you know, I had friends of mine that were cops, 1101 00:59:38,221 --> 00:59:40,181 and I got security for O.J. 1102 00:59:40,264 --> 00:59:42,434 It was really strange, 1103 00:59:43,935 --> 00:59:46,725 and I really could not go near him at that time. 1104 00:59:48,648 --> 00:59:50,978 [Kaelin] It just seemed like something wasn't right. 1105 00:59:53,528 --> 00:59:56,528 The kids came up to me throughout the entire funeral. 1106 00:59:56,614 --> 00:59:59,664 I mentioned Mommy's in heaven, and we had these balloons. 1107 00:59:59,742 --> 01:00:02,872 I said to the kids, "Take these balloons, send them to your mommy to heaven." 1108 01:00:02,954 --> 01:00:05,714 They had these helium balloons, and they put the balloons up, 1109 01:00:05,790 --> 01:00:06,960 and they were waving to them. 1110 01:00:10,086 --> 01:00:11,376 They weren't crying. 1111 01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:17,970 I don't think the immediacy of knowing that they'll never see their mom again, 1112 01:00:18,052 --> 01:00:19,642 it didn't really hit them. 1113 01:00:22,390 --> 01:00:25,600 [female reporter] Some 20 miles away in Agoura Hills, California, 1114 01:00:25,685 --> 01:00:29,055 relatives of Ronald Goldman gathered for his funeral. 1115 01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:32,070 I remember being in the… 1116 01:00:33,651 --> 01:00:35,191 in the mortuary, uh… 1117 01:00:39,907 --> 01:00:42,617 And the casket was down a long path, 1118 01:00:42,702 --> 01:00:45,712 and we just walked up to it, and there he was, and… 1119 01:00:47,999 --> 01:00:49,249 My brother was… 1120 01:00:50,001 --> 01:00:53,211 had his neck severed, and so they had to hide certain parts 1121 01:00:53,296 --> 01:00:55,466 so that we couldn't see it. [sniffles] 1122 01:00:56,132 --> 01:00:59,512 I remember leaning over him, and I was crying, and I 1123 01:01:00,678 --> 01:01:03,598 saw tears on him and thought that it was him crying, 1124 01:01:03,681 --> 01:01:08,481 and then I realized that it was my tears. It was all very… super fucked up. 1125 01:01:08,561 --> 01:01:09,441 [sniffles] 1126 01:01:12,106 --> 01:01:17,646 We had no idea how big this was, 1127 01:01:17,737 --> 01:01:19,407 how far-reaching it was. 1128 01:01:19,489 --> 01:01:22,909 We were inside having our service, 1129 01:01:22,992 --> 01:01:28,462 and then came out and there were thousands of people that had come. 1130 01:01:28,539 --> 01:01:30,919 And it was shocking, because I had no idea. 1131 01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:35,090 There were helicopters above, media was perched. 1132 01:01:35,171 --> 01:01:37,051 I just was very overwhelmed by that 1133 01:01:37,131 --> 01:01:39,471 because I didn't understand what was happening. 1134 01:01:40,635 --> 01:01:45,425 {\an8}If what few little things we've heard in any way are true 1135 01:01:45,515 --> 01:01:48,935 {\an8}about Ron putting up quite a fight… 1136 01:01:51,938 --> 01:01:53,108 maybe to help… 1137 01:01:56,275 --> 01:01:58,565 [voice breaking] …wouldn't surprise me either. 1138 01:02:00,947 --> 01:02:03,987 Unlike so many other murder victims, 1139 01:02:04,075 --> 01:02:08,075 our stuff happened very quickly, it was very public, 1140 01:02:08,162 --> 01:02:13,462 so there wasn't a lot of question about how the investigation was going. 1141 01:02:13,543 --> 01:02:16,883 So many other families don't get information at all, 1142 01:02:16,963 --> 01:02:20,263 and they have to beg and plead for it. Ours, we couldn't stop getting it. 1143 01:02:20,341 --> 01:02:23,511 While they have not formally identified O.J. Simpson as a suspect, 1144 01:02:23,594 --> 01:02:26,434 it appears at this point they are not looking elsewhere. 1145 01:02:26,514 --> 01:02:28,774 [tense music playing] 1146 01:02:31,477 --> 01:02:33,187 [female reporter] Have you wrapped up? 1147 01:02:33,271 --> 01:02:35,821 - No, we haven't. - [male reporter] Can you tell us anything? 1148 01:02:35,898 --> 01:02:38,028 The real damning evidence in this case… 1149 01:02:38,109 --> 01:02:39,319 [camera clicking] 1150 01:02:39,402 --> 01:02:41,742 …it's in the forensics, and it's in the blood. 1151 01:02:41,821 --> 01:02:45,781 [male reporter] Police towed this white Ford Bronco from O.J. Simpson's home. 1152 01:02:45,867 --> 01:02:47,657 There was blood in the Bronco. 1153 01:02:47,743 --> 01:02:50,163 Somebody put blood on the door handle. 1154 01:02:51,581 --> 01:02:53,791 We have bloody shoe prints at the scene. 1155 01:02:54,542 --> 01:02:56,752 We have drops of blood behind the Bronco. 1156 01:02:57,670 --> 01:03:00,550 We have a bloody glove that matches the one at Bundy. 1157 01:03:00,631 --> 01:03:02,381 I mean, you really don't have to be 1158 01:03:02,466 --> 01:03:04,756 a very good detective to put this together. 1159 01:03:05,386 --> 01:03:08,256 [male reporter] As soon as detectives can match the blood in the car 1160 01:03:08,347 --> 01:03:09,847 with blood at the crime scene, 1161 01:03:09,932 --> 01:03:11,682 an arrest warrant will be issued. 1162 01:03:12,602 --> 01:03:14,692 Well, the blood started to come back. 1163 01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:20,320 And O.J. Simpson has his blood at the crime scene. 1164 01:03:23,112 --> 01:03:27,452 The blood that was tailing to the left of the footwear impressions is his blood. 1165 01:03:28,075 --> 01:03:31,445 As far as the Bronco goes, and the blood in the Bronco, 1166 01:03:32,955 --> 01:03:35,495 there's only three types of blood from three people, 1167 01:03:35,583 --> 01:03:37,043 both victims and O.J. Simpson. 1168 01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:40,050 O.J. Simpson has his blood at Rockingham, 1169 01:03:40,129 --> 01:03:44,469 tailing from the rear of the Bronco up the driveway and into the house. 1170 01:03:46,802 --> 01:03:51,472 O.J. Simpson has his blood also on the right-handed glove 1171 01:03:51,557 --> 01:03:55,187 that's found at Rockingham along with the blood of both victims. 1172 01:03:55,269 --> 01:03:57,859 It was at that time, we went in and sought the warrant. 1173 01:03:58,731 --> 01:04:01,111 There's hundreds of pieces of evidence. 1174 01:04:01,192 --> 01:04:04,612 All of these little circumstantial things are beginning to add up. 1175 01:04:05,446 --> 01:04:09,576 So it's determined that an arrest will be made the next morning at 8:00. 1176 01:04:09,659 --> 01:04:12,039 [ominous music rises and fades] 1177 01:04:13,996 --> 01:04:17,036 Nobody could anticipate what would happen next 1178 01:04:17,124 --> 01:04:18,794 because it's really unprecedented. 1179 01:04:18,876 --> 01:04:22,506 The Los Angeles County District Attorney has just filed murder charges 1180 01:04:22,588 --> 01:04:24,588 against Orenthal James "O.J." Simpson. 1181 01:04:24,674 --> 01:04:25,764 [crowd chanting] 1182 01:04:25,841 --> 01:04:28,551 There is nothing like this in memory, nothing. 1183 01:04:28,636 --> 01:04:31,006 [male reporter] Okay, it's a white car. 1184 01:04:31,097 --> 01:04:33,307 [sirens wailing] 1185 01:04:36,102 --> 01:04:39,232 [tense, dramatic music playing] 1186 01:08:04,935 --> 01:08:06,935 [music fades out]