1 00:00:37,559 --> 00:00:40,479 …figure out that somebody who's been sent to prison for 25 years 2 00:02:03,019 --> 00:02:05,519 Forget it, Jake, it's Chinatown. 3 00:02:24,749 --> 00:02:27,959 We begin with Jeff Toobin. He's a lawyer and former prosecutor. 4 00:03:50,877 --> 00:03:53,627 He felt feelings of rage and anger 5 00:03:53,713 --> 00:03:57,723 at the minority communities in which he had been assigned. 6 00:04:03,431 --> 00:04:07,811 It is basically Fuhrman saying that he felt the urge to kill people. 7 00:04:42,053 --> 00:04:44,603 {\an8}We're getting ready to prepare for trial. 8 00:06:13,227 --> 00:06:16,767 The man who will decide on how to go about prosecuting O.J. Simpson 9 00:06:16,856 --> 00:06:19,776 is the Los Angeles District Attorney, Gil Garcetti. 10 00:06:19,859 --> 00:06:25,909 {\an8}Our concern here truly is that you have 12 jurors, whoever they may be, 11 00:06:25,990 --> 00:06:28,120 {\an8}gender, race, doesn't make any difference, 12 00:06:29,285 --> 00:06:30,695 that are truly fair. 13 00:06:45,676 --> 00:06:47,756 Not guilty of the crime of assault. 14 00:06:56,771 --> 00:07:02,571 {\an8}We think it's absolutely essential that O.J. Simpson be tried by a jury 15 00:07:02,652 --> 00:07:06,282 {\an8}that's representative of the immense diversity of this city, 16 00:07:06,364 --> 00:07:07,874 {\an8}including African Americans. 17 00:07:54,328 --> 00:07:56,158 Do you honestly feel that you can get 18 00:07:56,247 --> 00:07:59,247 12 people who can put everything they've seen and read about this case 19 00:07:59,333 --> 00:08:02,343 outside the courtroom door and consider only the evidence? 20 00:08:02,420 --> 00:08:04,630 I'm hopeful that we can, yes, very hopeful. 21 00:10:07,795 --> 00:10:10,965 {\an8}The most interesting thing about this entire process… 22 00:10:11,048 --> 00:10:14,838 {\an8}and I never, ever, in my life looked at race. 23 00:10:14,927 --> 00:10:17,717 {\an8}When I sit in that jury room, I'm counting the Blacks in the room. 24 00:10:17,805 --> 00:10:19,715 {\an8}I never knew how many Blacks was in a room. 25 00:10:19,807 --> 00:10:23,017 {\an8}Now I'm counting the Blacks in the room. I'm counting the Asians in the room. 26 00:10:23,102 --> 00:10:28,822 {\an8}The system has forced me to look at things racially. 27 00:10:36,407 --> 00:10:40,197 The lengthy process of picking a jury for the O.J. Simpson trial 28 00:10:40,286 --> 00:10:41,826 moves into its second day. 29 00:10:41,912 --> 00:10:43,912 The jury pool is very diverse 30 00:10:43,998 --> 00:10:45,578 in ethnic and racial background. 31 00:10:46,500 --> 00:10:49,040 A grueling day of chess-like moves… 32 00:10:55,968 --> 00:10:59,598 Lawyers settled on a panel composed of eight Blacks, 33 00:10:59,680 --> 00:11:02,890 one white, one Hispanic, and two people of mixed race. 34 00:11:33,005 --> 00:11:35,335 Naming the trial judge 35 00:11:35,424 --> 00:11:36,804 in this explosive case, 36 00:11:36,884 --> 00:11:39,224 that judge is vital to both sides. 37 00:11:39,303 --> 00:11:43,223 I'm assigning the case to Judge Lance Ito. 38 00:11:55,861 --> 00:11:59,161 Both defense and prosecution welcomed Ito, 39 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,790 a former prosecutor well-regarded as smart, tough, and fair. 40 00:13:10,019 --> 00:13:13,229 The 41-year-old prosecutor was stricken by chest pains. 41 00:14:00,277 --> 00:14:01,817 Any questions for Chris? 42 00:14:04,448 --> 00:14:08,698 Come on, man. Come on. Look at this guy. Come on. We have to drag him over. 43 00:14:26,428 --> 00:14:27,808 {\an8}Lo and behold, he shows up here. 44 00:14:27,888 --> 00:14:30,518 {\an8}Why is that, after we have eight African Americans? I don't know. 45 00:14:30,599 --> 00:14:32,059 {\an8}We've been concerned about it. 46 00:14:56,625 --> 00:15:01,585 The media continues to buy on to any defense mention of race. 47 00:15:01,672 --> 00:15:04,262 They want to continue to play that card. 48 00:15:04,341 --> 00:15:07,641 Chris Darden is on the case, plain and simple, 49 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,850 because he is a fabulous trial lawyer. 50 00:15:51,388 --> 00:15:53,598 We're looking at everything, uh, 51 00:15:53,682 --> 00:15:56,192 and I can't comment on the evidence with regard to that. 52 00:16:37,267 --> 00:16:39,187 No comments on that. No comments on that. 53 00:16:59,039 --> 00:17:02,789 The key question for the judge in the O.J. Simpson murder trial today was 54 00:17:02,876 --> 00:17:05,666 whether to bar cameras and microphones from the courtroom. 55 00:17:07,381 --> 00:17:11,181 Having cameras in the courtroom allows everyone to see how a trial proceeds. 56 00:17:11,260 --> 00:17:13,720 They see the actual evidence as it's being brought out, 57 00:17:13,804 --> 00:17:14,934 and that's a good thing. 58 00:17:23,230 --> 00:17:27,530 It has been said that no American so prominent has been charged with murder. 59 00:17:27,609 --> 00:17:29,569 It will be a legal spectacle. 60 00:17:29,653 --> 00:17:31,663 Now the whole world finally gets to see 61 00:17:31,738 --> 00:17:34,118 what we have been waiting seven months to see. 62 00:17:38,704 --> 00:17:40,004 Juice! Juice! 63 00:17:50,632 --> 00:17:52,092 What did O.J. say to you? 64 00:17:52,176 --> 00:17:54,506 Tell him we love him! Tell him we love him! 65 00:18:59,910 --> 00:19:02,200 Are both sides prepared to go forward? Mr. Cochran? 66 00:19:02,287 --> 00:19:03,997 - We are, Your Honor. - Mrs. Clark? 67 00:19:04,081 --> 00:19:05,121 Yes, Your Honor. 68 00:19:05,207 --> 00:19:07,287 Do the People wish to make an opening statement? 69 00:19:07,376 --> 00:19:08,626 Yes, we do, Your Honor. 70 00:19:08,710 --> 00:19:10,840 All right, you may proceed. Mr. Darden? 71 00:19:16,468 --> 00:19:19,508 I think it's fair to say that I have the toughest job in town today. 72 00:19:30,524 --> 00:19:35,324 And we're here today, obviously, to resolve an issue, 73 00:19:35,404 --> 00:19:36,914 to settle a question, 74 00:19:36,989 --> 00:19:40,409 a question that has been on the minds of people throughout the country 75 00:19:40,492 --> 00:19:41,702 these last seven months. 76 00:19:41,785 --> 00:19:47,285 Did O.J. Simpson really kill Nicole Brown and Ronald Goldman? 77 00:19:47,374 --> 00:19:52,054 I am here in front of you this morning… to answer that question. 78 00:20:01,430 --> 00:20:06,640 We will expose to you in this trial the other side of O.J. Simpson, 79 00:20:06,727 --> 00:20:08,687 a wife beater, an abuser. 80 00:20:09,771 --> 00:20:11,481 He killed her to control her. 81 00:20:11,565 --> 00:20:14,395 Control is a continuing theme. 82 00:20:24,286 --> 00:20:25,786 And I submit to you, 83 00:20:25,871 --> 00:20:27,871 that as the trial proceeds on, 84 00:20:27,956 --> 00:20:30,246 that motive will become clear. 85 00:20:43,388 --> 00:20:47,888 Why did Mr. Darden spend all that time on domestic violence 86 00:20:48,393 --> 00:20:49,643 if this is a murder case? 87 00:20:49,728 --> 00:20:52,768 He's not charged with any domestic violence. 88 00:20:53,398 --> 00:20:57,108 They're trying to dredge up some theory to give you a motive 89 00:20:57,194 --> 00:20:59,154 because they don't have a motive. 90 00:20:59,237 --> 00:21:01,657 The defense will talk to you about possibilities. 91 00:21:02,449 --> 00:21:06,199 And they'll insinuate many sinister things based on those possibilities. 92 00:21:06,286 --> 00:21:09,156 This case is about a rush to judgment. 93 00:21:09,247 --> 00:21:12,577 An obsession to win at any cost and by any means necessary. 94 00:21:14,336 --> 00:21:17,506 There were a couple of pictures of an officer leaning down, pointing 95 00:21:17,589 --> 00:21:20,179 at the glove and the cap and everything. 96 00:21:20,258 --> 00:21:21,838 That was Officer Fuhrman. 97 00:21:22,969 --> 00:21:27,469 The prosecution never once mentioned his name yesterday. 98 00:21:27,557 --> 00:21:29,677 It's like they just want to hide him. 99 00:21:29,768 --> 00:21:31,268 But they can't hide him. 100 00:21:31,353 --> 00:21:33,653 Two people have been brutally murdered. 101 00:21:33,730 --> 00:21:36,150 And the evidence consistently will point to the guilt 102 00:21:36,233 --> 00:21:38,113 of only one person as their murderer. 103 00:21:55,335 --> 00:21:58,255 I guess Dr. Martin Luther King said it best when he said that, 104 00:21:58,338 --> 00:22:02,008 "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere." 105 00:22:02,092 --> 00:22:06,812 And so we are now embarked upon this search for justice. 106 00:22:06,888 --> 00:22:08,888 This search for truth. 107 00:22:08,974 --> 00:22:10,644 This search for the facts. 108 00:22:26,199 --> 00:22:28,869 It's a great way to make new friends, right, fellas? 109 00:22:59,608 --> 00:23:04,398 I will always be remembered for being the first guy to go over 2,000 yards. 110 00:24:07,008 --> 00:24:09,968 The People call Ron Shipp to the stand. Ron? 111 00:24:43,587 --> 00:24:46,297 Do you and the defendant remain friends today? 112 00:24:47,966 --> 00:24:51,296 Well, I still love the guy, but, um… I don't know. 113 00:24:51,386 --> 00:24:54,136 I mean, this is a weird situation I'm sitting here in. 114 00:24:59,227 --> 00:25:02,477 You had this conversation with Nicole Brown at the house. 115 00:25:02,564 --> 00:25:05,654 Relay to us the content of that conversation, please. 116 00:25:05,734 --> 00:25:08,284 Nicole had advised me that he had hit her. 117 00:25:09,279 --> 00:25:11,529 There was some swelling about her head. 118 00:25:11,615 --> 00:25:13,905 I remember she… It was covered up pretty good. 119 00:25:16,369 --> 00:25:19,499 I looked at her, I saw bruises on her face and everything. 120 00:25:23,585 --> 00:25:28,715 And I said, "Hey, man, you hit her. She's got marks. You're a batterer." 121 00:25:29,758 --> 00:25:32,838 And that's when he kind of agreed and said, "I guess you're right." 122 00:25:40,644 --> 00:25:42,774 Mr. Douglas, your cross-examination. 123 00:25:51,821 --> 00:25:55,201 You're not really this man's friend, are you, sir? 124 00:25:55,283 --> 00:25:57,543 - You ever been golfing with him? - Never. 125 00:25:57,619 --> 00:26:00,709 - Ever been to a Raider game with him? - Not one. 126 00:26:19,683 --> 00:26:22,233 - You drink a lot, don't you? - I used to. 127 00:26:28,108 --> 00:26:30,858 Didn't you receive a discipline as a result of that conduct? 128 00:26:30,944 --> 00:26:31,994 Yes, I did. 129 00:26:32,070 --> 00:26:36,320 It is true, is it not, that when you are under the influence of alcohol, 130 00:26:36,408 --> 00:26:39,538 your ability to recall facts and events is affected? 131 00:26:39,619 --> 00:26:40,749 If you're drunk. 132 00:27:03,351 --> 00:27:07,481 You have, in the past, told Mr. Simpson's friend, 133 00:27:07,564 --> 00:27:09,364 if Mr. Simpson weren't around, 134 00:27:09,441 --> 00:27:12,241 you might have a shot at Nicole Brown-Simpson yourself? 135 00:27:18,074 --> 00:27:18,994 I didn't-- 136 00:27:19,075 --> 00:27:21,445 That's totally false, totally false. 137 00:27:21,536 --> 00:27:23,956 Mr. Douglas, I hope you get your facts straight, okay? 138 00:27:24,038 --> 00:27:24,958 Hold on. Hold on. 139 00:27:25,039 --> 00:27:27,579 - You're attacking me, let me answer. - Hold on, Mr. Shipp. 140 00:27:28,835 --> 00:27:30,205 This is sad, O.J. 141 00:27:30,295 --> 00:27:32,165 Your Honor, I move to strike that. 142 00:27:32,255 --> 00:27:34,875 Ladies and gentlemen, you are to disregard 143 00:27:34,966 --> 00:27:37,086 Mr. Shipp's direct comment to the defendant. 144 00:27:37,177 --> 00:27:38,677 - Mr. Shipp, please. - I'm sorry. 145 00:27:38,762 --> 00:27:40,222 You're instructed not to do that. 146 00:28:28,269 --> 00:28:31,769 You must have expected some kind of backlash, Ron. 147 00:28:32,690 --> 00:28:36,320 And it's probably been a little bit more than I expected. 148 00:29:20,822 --> 00:29:23,992 I'm doing this for my conscience and my peace of mind. 149 00:29:25,952 --> 00:29:28,872 I will not have the blood of Nicole on Ron Shipp. 150 00:29:54,439 --> 00:29:59,319 {\an8}What we have here in the side of the head is a penetrating injury. 151 00:30:00,737 --> 00:30:02,657 To the temporal bone… 152 00:30:08,953 --> 00:30:12,463 These photographs clearly demonstrate the bloodflow pattern. 153 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,380 The neck is not as stable as it should be because the spine has also been cut. 154 00:30:26,512 --> 00:30:29,892 One must keep in mind the dependent drainage of blood 155 00:30:29,974 --> 00:30:31,684 from the chest cavity. 156 00:30:43,237 --> 00:30:45,777 Four sharp force injuries to the neck… 157 00:30:54,791 --> 00:30:58,461 The neck stab wound Ms. Simpson suffered being the last wound. 158 00:31:56,978 --> 00:31:58,648 O.J.! 159 00:32:15,496 --> 00:32:17,616 {\an8}- Good morning, sir. - Good morning. 160 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:23,300 {\an8}Sir, on January 1, 1989, did you receive a radio call? 161 00:32:23,379 --> 00:32:25,339 It was around 3:30 in the morning. 162 00:32:25,423 --> 00:32:29,513 The 911 operator could overhear the woman being beaten on the phone. 163 00:32:29,594 --> 00:32:31,474 - Was she hysterical? - Oh yes. 164 00:32:31,554 --> 00:32:36,734 {\an8}With the court's permission, I'd like to play the 1989 911 tape. 165 00:32:36,809 --> 00:32:38,849 911, emergency… 166 00:32:40,438 --> 00:32:41,358 {\an8}Hello? 167 00:32:52,408 --> 00:32:56,328 When I arrived, a woman came running out of the bushes to my left 168 00:32:56,412 --> 00:32:58,872 and started yelling, "He's going to kill me." 169 00:32:58,956 --> 00:33:01,576 I said, "Who is going to kill you?" She said, "O.J." 170 00:33:02,335 --> 00:33:03,875 She was beat-up. 171 00:34:31,716 --> 00:34:34,586 {\an8}We were all drinking and goofing around 172 00:34:34,677 --> 00:34:37,387 {\an8}and being loud and dancing and having a great time. 173 00:34:37,471 --> 00:34:43,691 And then at one point, O.J. grabbed Nicole's crotch and said, 174 00:34:43,769 --> 00:34:46,979 "This is where babies come from, and this belongs to me." 175 00:34:47,773 --> 00:34:49,613 Did you say something to the defendant? 176 00:34:49,692 --> 00:34:52,072 - Yes, I did. - What did you say to him? 177 00:34:52,153 --> 00:34:54,413 I told him he took Nicole for granted. 178 00:34:55,031 --> 00:34:57,621 And he blew up, 179 00:34:57,700 --> 00:34:59,870 grabbed Nicole, threw her against a wall. 180 00:35:02,914 --> 00:35:05,834 What did the defendant say about your sister's weight 181 00:35:05,917 --> 00:35:07,247 while she was pregnant? 182 00:35:07,335 --> 00:35:09,205 He used to call her a fat pig. 183 00:35:29,232 --> 00:35:31,152 The next witness expected to take the stand 184 00:35:31,234 --> 00:35:34,114 is Simpson houseguest Brian Kato Kaelin. 185 00:35:51,462 --> 00:35:55,422 I came in, and they were… There was an argument going on. 186 00:35:55,508 --> 00:35:58,048 And how angry was he that day, Mr. Kaelin? 187 00:35:59,053 --> 00:36:02,773 Angry. He was yelling. The police came. 188 00:36:02,848 --> 00:36:05,428 {\an8}First of all, he broke the back door down to get in. 189 00:36:05,518 --> 00:36:07,518 {\an8}What is he doing? Is he threatening you? 190 00:36:08,396 --> 00:36:10,476 {\an8}He's going nuts. He's going to beat the shit out of me. 191 00:36:10,564 --> 00:36:11,484 {\an8}Wait a minute. 192 00:36:12,733 --> 00:36:14,863 {\an8}O.J… O.J… O.J… 193 00:36:14,944 --> 00:36:16,324 {\an8}Has this happened before, or no? 194 00:36:16,404 --> 00:36:17,574 {\an8}Many times. 195 00:36:17,655 --> 00:36:18,735 {\an8}Okay. 196 00:36:59,155 --> 00:37:02,655 He seemed to be attempting to observe 197 00:37:02,742 --> 00:37:06,832 {\an8}something that may have been occurring within the house. 198 00:37:06,912 --> 00:37:08,292 And who was that man? 199 00:37:08,372 --> 00:37:09,462 It was Mr. Simpson. 200 00:37:26,098 --> 00:37:30,768 And it's your offer, Mr. Darden, that these came from a safe-deposit box 201 00:37:30,853 --> 00:37:33,023 belonging to Nicole Brown Simpson? 202 00:37:33,105 --> 00:37:34,435 That's correct, Your Honor. 203 00:37:50,998 --> 00:37:54,288 It's our position that Ms. Brown left a trail of evidence 204 00:37:54,377 --> 00:37:56,247 indicating that there had been a pattern, 205 00:37:56,337 --> 00:37:58,877 a history of abuse between her and the defendant. 206 00:38:34,792 --> 00:38:40,712 A dance recital was held in Brentwood for the defendant's daughter, Sydney. 207 00:38:42,133 --> 00:38:44,473 The entire Brown family went to the recital. 208 00:38:45,219 --> 00:38:47,349 The defendant arrived a short time later. 209 00:38:50,099 --> 00:38:52,639 - Did he sit directly behind you? - Yes, he did. 210 00:38:52,726 --> 00:38:55,896 After a few minutes, he just abruptly got up and moved. 211 00:38:57,148 --> 00:38:59,278 Nobody said anything to offend him. 212 00:39:01,110 --> 00:39:02,360 Why is he so angry? 213 00:39:02,903 --> 00:39:06,373 And you saw him at about 6:00 or 6:30, after the recital? Right? 214 00:39:06,449 --> 00:39:07,319 Yes. 215 00:39:11,745 --> 00:39:15,455 Nicole was wearing a black halter dress and a black blazer. 216 00:39:40,941 --> 00:39:44,401 The Brown family decided to go to the Mezzaluna restaurant for dinner. 217 00:39:44,487 --> 00:39:48,817 They made it clear to the defendant that he was not invited. 218 00:39:54,872 --> 00:39:59,342 He had a very bizarre look in his eyes. 219 00:40:00,711 --> 00:40:02,711 It was a very faraway look. 220 00:40:09,220 --> 00:40:13,930 Back at Rockingham, Mr. Simpson told Kato he was going out to get something to eat. 221 00:40:14,016 --> 00:40:15,136 Kato invited himself. 222 00:40:37,039 --> 00:40:40,169 You got to McDonald's at approximately what time? 223 00:40:40,251 --> 00:40:41,461 9:22. 224 00:40:52,263 --> 00:40:55,853 So you last saw the defendant standing by the Bentley at 9:35? 225 00:40:56,767 --> 00:40:57,887 About 9:35. 226 00:41:07,403 --> 00:41:10,823 The defendant had an hour and ten minutes 227 00:41:10,906 --> 00:41:13,736 in which his whereabouts are unaccounted for. 228 00:41:22,334 --> 00:41:24,304 {\an8}I became aware of a barking. 229 00:41:39,310 --> 00:41:44,230 And all of a sudden I heard two voices that said, "Hey, hey, hey!" 230 00:41:45,482 --> 00:41:51,322 Ms. Clark kept telling you that she had fixed the time of death in this case 231 00:41:51,405 --> 00:41:52,615 at about 10:15, 232 00:41:53,365 --> 00:41:58,195 because she wants to give enough time for her theory about O.J. Simpson to work. 233 00:42:08,088 --> 00:42:12,678 {\an8}A limo driver said he saw a large Black man going across the driveway. 234 00:42:23,646 --> 00:42:29,106 {\an8}Again, it's 10:15 p.m., September 25, 1994, 235 00:42:29,193 --> 00:42:34,163 {\an8}at the rear of 875 South Bundy, starting north in the alley to the rear. 236 00:42:40,245 --> 00:42:45,705 {\an8}Arriving at the Rockingham Gate at 360 North Rockingham 237 00:42:45,793 --> 00:42:47,463 {\an8}and stopping at the curb. 238 00:42:52,758 --> 00:42:54,088 Had a little window of time. 239 00:42:58,097 --> 00:42:59,807 No time lost making your flight. 240 00:43:52,943 --> 00:43:54,703 A world exclusive. 241 00:43:54,778 --> 00:43:59,238 A key witness in the case against O.J. Simpson breaks her silence. 242 00:44:27,186 --> 00:44:29,646 We cannot police people once they leave our building. 243 00:44:29,730 --> 00:44:32,440 We can't follow them around and say don't talk to the press. 244 00:45:24,952 --> 00:45:28,582 Tom Lange, T-O-M L-A-N-G-E. 245 00:45:35,587 --> 00:45:38,627 So what time did you arrive at 875 South Bundy, sir? 246 00:45:39,132 --> 00:45:40,512 4:05 in the morning. 247 00:45:41,844 --> 00:45:46,774 I was satisfied, in my mind, that the crime scene was indeed secured 248 00:45:46,849 --> 00:45:48,139 by what I saw, yes. 249 00:45:48,225 --> 00:45:50,935 This was a very, very bloody crime scene. 250 00:45:52,771 --> 00:45:55,941 You don't want to contaminate the area. The area has been secured. 251 00:45:56,024 --> 00:45:59,444 This appeared to me to be an overkill or a rage killing. 252 00:46:18,505 --> 00:46:21,375 Did you ever, as the investigating officer in this case, 253 00:46:21,466 --> 00:46:23,386 ever consider any other theory 254 00:46:23,468 --> 00:46:26,508 than that O.J. Simpson was the only perpetrator in this case? 255 00:46:26,597 --> 00:46:28,017 Any other theory? 256 00:46:28,098 --> 00:46:30,308 Yes, any other theory, any other possibility? 257 00:46:30,392 --> 00:46:34,312 I had absolutely no other evidence that would point me in any other direction. 258 00:46:46,825 --> 00:46:49,535 You don't want to rush to judgment in these things, do you? 259 00:46:49,620 --> 00:46:50,540 Certainly not. 260 00:46:50,621 --> 00:46:53,961 So you want to gather all the facts you possibly can, is that correct? 261 00:46:54,041 --> 00:46:55,131 Yes. 262 00:46:55,208 --> 00:46:56,918 These white people, excuse me, 263 00:46:57,002 --> 00:46:59,212 but that's the way I feel about this here situation, 264 00:46:59,296 --> 00:47:00,666 trying to set the brother up, 265 00:47:00,756 --> 00:47:03,546 just for the simple fact that it was a white female that got killed. 266 00:47:03,634 --> 00:47:05,684 So they're going to put it on the brother, you know? 267 00:47:05,761 --> 00:47:09,471 Did you at any time ever investigate any relationships 268 00:47:09,556 --> 00:47:10,766 Mr. Goldman may have had 269 00:47:10,849 --> 00:47:13,809 to determine whether or not he had any enemies, anything of that nature? 270 00:47:13,894 --> 00:47:14,814 Objection. 271 00:47:15,562 --> 00:47:16,482 Overruled. 272 00:47:17,356 --> 00:47:18,396 I did not. 273 00:47:24,112 --> 00:47:26,322 Isn't it true that you, in your experience, 274 00:47:26,406 --> 00:47:29,526 know about drug killings where knives have been used? 275 00:47:29,618 --> 00:47:30,578 Isn't that correct? 276 00:47:31,954 --> 00:47:34,584 I do have knowledge of knives being used, yes. 277 00:47:34,665 --> 00:47:36,995 Now many suspect that drug use 278 00:47:37,084 --> 00:47:40,174 may have played a role in the furious homicides. 279 00:48:03,819 --> 00:48:07,279 The fact that the victim may have a friend who uses drugs, 280 00:48:07,364 --> 00:48:10,244 and in light of no other evidence in that regard, 281 00:48:10,325 --> 00:48:11,945 has very little consequence to me. 282 00:48:12,035 --> 00:48:15,075 The fact that every bit of evidence that I have in this case 283 00:48:15,163 --> 00:48:17,753 points towards the defendant has a lot more to do with this. 284 00:48:23,463 --> 00:48:25,513 So you would follow any particular lead, 285 00:48:25,590 --> 00:48:28,680 and any such lead regarding possible drug involvement 286 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,680 would be important to you as an investigator, isn't that correct? 287 00:48:32,264 --> 00:48:36,024 If I felt that this case involved drugs or drug dealers, it would. 288 00:48:36,101 --> 00:48:37,851 The fact is, it doesn't. 289 00:48:37,936 --> 00:48:40,306 Have you ever heard of a Colombian necktie? 290 00:48:40,397 --> 00:48:42,317 A person's throat is slashed 291 00:48:42,399 --> 00:48:45,989 and their tongue is pulled down through their neck area. 292 00:48:46,069 --> 00:48:47,609 - You ever heard of that? - No. 293 00:49:03,837 --> 00:49:07,797 This is the same thing that Mr. Cochran's been doing throughout this trial. 294 00:49:07,883 --> 00:49:10,183 This is another distortion. This is another deception. 295 00:49:38,246 --> 00:49:40,866 The most compelling murder trial ever. 296 00:49:40,957 --> 00:49:44,587 This is the most talked about murder case in American history. 297 00:49:53,386 --> 00:49:54,886 No matter where you turn, 298 00:49:54,971 --> 00:49:57,891 it seems the trial of the century is popping up everywhere. 299 00:50:01,478 --> 00:50:04,358 Circus is a very good way to describe what's going on. 300 00:50:05,732 --> 00:50:08,902 It's just fantastic drama, and it's live, unscripted drama. 301 00:50:08,985 --> 00:50:10,775 You want more O.J. coverage. 302 00:50:10,862 --> 00:50:13,122 Circulation is up, ratings are up. 303 00:50:13,198 --> 00:50:15,448 It wasn't O.J. No way was it O.J. 304 00:50:15,534 --> 00:50:16,744 I don't think he did it. 305 00:50:18,286 --> 00:50:20,706 He was there, and he did it. 306 00:50:27,504 --> 00:50:30,924 Cochran has done a terrific job, I think, with smoke and mirrors 307 00:50:31,007 --> 00:50:32,677 and spinning a conspiracy theory. 308 00:50:32,759 --> 00:50:36,049 In this case, these police officers left a lot of stones unturned. 309 00:50:36,138 --> 00:50:40,058 What O.J. got was a presumption of guilt, not a presumption of innocence. 310 00:50:40,142 --> 00:50:42,602 If you can't trust the police, you can't trust the case. 311 00:50:44,521 --> 00:50:50,071 Except for the one case of wife beating, he's got an impeccable reputation. 312 00:50:57,284 --> 00:51:00,704 We've got an investigative reporter with a story about a mystery car, 313 00:51:00,787 --> 00:51:02,207 {\an8}a possible accomplice. 314 00:51:07,419 --> 00:51:12,089 O.J. on the cover still guarantees 10 to 20% more tabloids sold. 315 00:51:13,675 --> 00:51:18,885 This is the first time where journalism's hypocrisy 316 00:51:18,972 --> 00:51:21,182 has really been shaken out of the bushes, 317 00:51:21,266 --> 00:51:23,806 where the difference between The New York Times 318 00:51:23,894 --> 00:51:28,524 and the National Enquirer has gone from this big to this big. 319 00:51:30,817 --> 00:51:33,987 A root beer company promotes a DNA scratch-off contest. 320 00:51:34,070 --> 00:51:36,360 Another firm markets the O.J. crime watch. 321 00:51:36,448 --> 00:51:39,198 Time to create a new O.J. for the Hollywood Wax Museum. 322 00:51:39,284 --> 00:51:43,254 Have you seen folks out there hawking T-shirts and bumper stickers? 323 00:51:43,330 --> 00:51:45,580 I bought the Lance Ito Jell-O mold. 324 00:51:46,082 --> 00:51:50,502 Ronald Goldman's father calls it a disgusting attempt at commercialism. 325 00:52:04,184 --> 00:52:07,774 And sales of white Ford Broncos have doubled at some dealerships. 326 00:52:07,854 --> 00:52:11,154 If you want one today, you should expect to pay full sticker price. 327 00:52:18,531 --> 00:52:19,991 Everybody look over there. 328 00:52:22,661 --> 00:52:27,421 The first to hit the bookshelves will be Green Eggs and Ham and O.J. is Guilty. 329 00:52:32,629 --> 00:52:35,259 My name is Kramer. You know who I am, damn it! 330 00:52:35,340 --> 00:52:37,050 You know who I am, goddamn it! 331 00:52:39,761 --> 00:52:42,811 With so many reporters trying to scoop the rest of the reporters, 332 00:52:42,889 --> 00:52:45,559 big stories often turn into feeding frenzies. 333 00:52:45,642 --> 00:52:48,232 Mr. ******. Move away! Move! 334 00:53:09,207 --> 00:53:11,787 - That's horrible. - What would you pay for a story? 335 00:53:11,876 --> 00:53:15,206 I'll give them my American Express card number, because there are no limits. 336 00:53:42,115 --> 00:53:46,995 Remember the victims! Remember the victims! 337 00:53:47,078 --> 00:53:49,618 Remember the victims! 338 00:55:57,125 --> 00:55:59,705 All right, back on the record in the Simpson matter. 339 00:56:00,420 --> 00:56:02,590 {\an8}Mr. Darden. Good morning. 340 00:56:03,339 --> 00:56:04,299 {\an8}Good morning, Judge. 341 00:56:18,521 --> 00:56:22,571 Detective Fuhrman is going to play a very, very small role in this case. 342 00:56:22,650 --> 00:56:24,360 This wasn't his case. 343 00:56:24,444 --> 00:56:26,574 He was not the investigating officer 344 00:56:26,654 --> 00:56:28,994 or the lead investigating officer in this case. 345 00:56:29,073 --> 00:56:30,663 He just happened to find a glove. 346 00:56:37,916 --> 00:56:39,996 Now when the man is called to the witness stand, 347 00:56:40,084 --> 00:56:43,464 we're going to go 15 years back or 14 years back, and ask him 348 00:56:43,546 --> 00:56:45,966 if he ever made a racial slur? 349 00:56:46,049 --> 00:56:49,589 It is a dirty, filthy word. 350 00:56:50,178 --> 00:56:51,468 It blinds people. 351 00:56:52,805 --> 00:56:55,725 It'll blind the jury. It'll blind them to the truth. 352 00:57:10,365 --> 00:57:11,525 We can't win. 353 00:57:13,451 --> 00:57:14,741 No matter what. 354 00:57:14,827 --> 00:57:17,117 Because now we're trying a race case. 355 00:57:17,205 --> 00:57:18,535 We're not trying O.J. Simpson, 356 00:57:18,623 --> 00:57:21,713 and we're not trying the issue of whether he killed two people on Bundy. 357 00:57:28,341 --> 00:57:31,011 I would be remiss were I not at this time 358 00:57:31,094 --> 00:57:34,684 to take this opportunity to respond to my good friend, Mr. Chris Darden. 359 00:57:40,395 --> 00:57:42,855 His remarks this morning 360 00:57:42,939 --> 00:57:46,319 are perhaps the most incredible remarks I've heard in a court of law 361 00:57:46,943 --> 00:57:49,073 in the 32 years I've been practicing law. 362 00:57:50,196 --> 00:57:54,776 His remarks are demeaning to African Americans as a group. 363 00:57:56,327 --> 00:58:00,077 And so I want to apologize to African Americans across this country. 364 00:58:00,164 --> 00:58:03,634 Nobody wants to introduce race into this case, Your Honor. 365 00:58:03,710 --> 00:58:05,710 But as Mr. Darden has pointed out, 366 00:58:05,795 --> 00:58:09,125 race plays a part of everything in America. 367 00:58:15,138 --> 00:58:18,098 What we're going to be talking about this afternoon, Your Honor, 368 00:58:18,182 --> 00:58:21,272 is words out of the mouth of Mark Fuhrman. 369 00:58:21,853 --> 00:58:25,523 And I am ashamed that Mr. Darden 370 00:58:25,607 --> 00:58:29,357 would allow himself to become an apologist for this man. 371 00:59:55,571 --> 00:59:56,781 Detective Fuhrman, 372 00:59:56,864 --> 00:59:59,204 can you tell us how you feel about testifying today? 373 01:00:00,243 --> 01:00:01,293 Nervous. 374 01:00:02,036 --> 01:00:04,246 - Reluctant. - Can you tell us why? 375 01:00:04,831 --> 01:00:07,541 I've seen a lot of the evidence ignored 376 01:00:07,625 --> 01:00:11,375 and a lot of personal issues come to the forefront. 377 01:00:19,762 --> 01:00:21,762 In the early morning hours of June the 13th, 378 01:00:21,848 --> 01:00:24,768 when you arrived at the location of 360 North Rockingham, 379 01:00:24,851 --> 01:00:26,311 what happened next? 380 01:00:27,228 --> 01:00:32,478 Walking down the path and I saw a dark object. 381 01:00:33,609 --> 01:00:35,819 Could you tell what that dark object was? 382 01:00:36,529 --> 01:00:39,739 It looked similar to the glove on the Bundy scene. 383 01:00:46,581 --> 01:00:50,131 It appeared to be the same texture of leather, same color. 384 01:01:23,910 --> 01:01:28,250 {\an8}The prosecution has opened this door rather deliberately, 385 01:01:29,165 --> 01:01:31,575 knowing full well that there would be questions 386 01:01:31,667 --> 01:01:34,957 as to whether or not the someone, and there has to be someone, 387 01:01:35,671 --> 01:01:40,591 who transported that glove to Rockingham could have been Detective Fuhrman. 388 01:01:46,015 --> 01:01:47,885 This package 389 01:01:47,975 --> 01:01:53,105 could easily have been kept in a man's sock, short or tall. 390 01:02:04,450 --> 01:02:07,450 Mr. Bailey, you may resume with your cross-examination. 391 01:02:11,749 --> 01:02:14,129 Detective Fuhrman, did you believe 392 01:02:14,836 --> 01:02:16,746 that you would be an essential witness 393 01:02:16,838 --> 01:02:20,378 if you were the first to find an important piece of evidence? 394 01:02:21,467 --> 01:02:23,467 I couldn't make that determination at that time. 395 01:02:23,553 --> 01:02:26,103 I didn't even know what the implication of the glove was. 396 01:02:26,180 --> 01:02:27,970 You told us the minute you saw it, 397 01:02:28,057 --> 01:02:30,557 you thought it looked like the one on Bundy, didn't you? 398 01:02:30,643 --> 01:02:31,483 Yes, sir. 399 01:02:45,074 --> 01:02:50,374 Was it not your purpose to be in the area along the south wall alone? 400 01:02:51,455 --> 01:02:52,455 No, it wasn't. 401 01:02:52,540 --> 01:02:54,830 It just worked out that way, is that it? 402 01:02:55,376 --> 01:02:57,626 I didn't even know the south wall was accessible. 403 01:03:31,537 --> 01:03:34,457 Did you say, while in the recruiting station, 404 01:03:34,540 --> 01:03:37,000 at any time during those years, 405 01:03:37,585 --> 01:03:42,625 that when you see "a nigger driving with a white woman," 406 01:03:42,715 --> 01:03:43,835 you pull them over? 407 01:03:44,467 --> 01:03:45,427 No. 408 01:03:59,565 --> 01:04:03,315 Is it possible that you have forgotten that act on your part? 409 01:04:03,402 --> 01:04:04,452 No, it's not possible. 410 01:04:04,528 --> 01:04:07,778 Are you therefore saying that you have not used that word 411 01:04:07,865 --> 01:04:10,615 in the past ten years, Detective Fuhrman? 412 01:04:10,701 --> 01:04:12,121 Yes, that's what I'm saying. 413 01:04:19,502 --> 01:04:21,882 So that anyone who comes to this court 414 01:04:21,963 --> 01:04:23,923 and quotes you as using that word 415 01:04:24,423 --> 01:04:27,513 in dealing with African Americans would be a liar, Detective Fuhrman? 416 01:04:27,593 --> 01:04:28,473 Yes, they would. 417 01:04:28,552 --> 01:04:30,472 - All of them, correct? - All of them. 418 01:04:37,353 --> 01:04:38,603 All right, thank you. 419 01:05:09,260 --> 01:05:12,220 The jurors sat transfixed at that exchange 420 01:05:12,304 --> 01:05:15,064 and most certainly tonight have questions about Fuhrman. 421 01:05:15,141 --> 01:05:19,271 Suddenly, Fuhrman is the most famous cop in America. 422 01:05:19,353 --> 01:05:21,403 If he was the Grand Dragon of the Ku Klux Klan, 423 01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:22,940 he couldn't have planted this glove. 424 01:05:23,024 --> 01:05:25,654 I think he did set O.J. Simpson up. That's what I think. 425 01:05:25,735 --> 01:05:28,645 I'm not saying he did, but it's a possibility. 426 01:05:28,738 --> 01:05:32,578 It does not show anything more that he planted any evidence 427 01:05:32,658 --> 01:05:33,868 against O.J. Simpson. 428 01:05:33,951 --> 01:05:36,371 I mean, who hasn't uttered a racial statement before? 429 01:05:36,454 --> 01:05:38,004 I have. Everybody has. 430 01:06:22,500 --> 01:06:23,630 I heard a thumping noise.