1 00:00:19,895 --> 00:00:22,106 [Paterson] Moscow's one of the safest towns, 2 00:00:22,773 --> 00:00:25,401 not only in Idaho, but probably in the United States. 3 00:00:25,943 --> 00:00:28,988 [Eckles] And where else can you go and there's a moose walking on campus? 4 00:00:29,530 --> 00:00:31,532 It is absolutely breathtaking. 5 00:00:32,241 --> 00:00:33,784 [Jim] It's just a little college town. 6 00:00:34,326 --> 00:00:37,705 You've got just what they need for all the kids that are going to school there. 7 00:00:37,788 --> 00:00:40,332 [Johnson] That's where I found my best friends. 8 00:00:42,168 --> 00:00:44,628 [Alandt] Our group was pure happiness. 9 00:00:44,712 --> 00:00:47,757 [Johnson] When our friend group was together, that was our world. 10 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:49,508 We were all, like, this is it. 11 00:00:49,592 --> 00:00:50,718 This is all we need. 12 00:00:50,801 --> 00:00:53,846 [Alandt] Xana! [chuckles] 13 00:00:53,929 --> 00:00:55,931 [Paterson] These kids looked like they were just 14 00:00:56,015 --> 00:00:58,392 having the best time of their lives. 15 00:00:58,476 --> 00:01:00,269 -[Alandt chuckles] -[Kernodle] Come on. Let's go. 16 00:01:00,352 --> 00:01:03,981 [Paterson] Nobody ever could have imagined what was about to happen. 17 00:01:04,690 --> 00:01:07,818 [reporter 1] Four college students were killed early Sunday morning, 18 00:01:07,902 --> 00:01:11,113 their bodies found in an off-campus house near the University of Idaho. 19 00:01:12,990 --> 00:01:15,159 [Alandt] From the moment that I walked up the stairs, 20 00:01:15,659 --> 00:01:18,370 I knew something truly tragic had happened. 21 00:01:18,454 --> 00:01:20,372 [Phoebe] To live in the little town of Moscow, Idaho, 22 00:01:20,456 --> 00:01:22,166 you think nothing's gonna go wrong. 23 00:01:22,249 --> 00:01:26,212 And then, suddenly, the whole entire world knows where Moscow, Idaho is. 24 00:01:26,295 --> 00:01:27,546 [sirens wailing] 25 00:01:27,630 --> 00:01:29,548 [Karen] You're just stretching your imagination. 26 00:01:29,632 --> 00:01:31,425 Why they would hurt these children? 27 00:01:31,509 --> 00:01:33,344 Why they would hurt my child? 28 00:01:34,261 --> 00:01:36,555 [Johnson] That was the most scared I've ever been in my life. 29 00:01:36,639 --> 00:01:38,557 [Berriochoa] It could have been anybody in Moscow. 30 00:01:38,641 --> 00:01:40,184 [Couch] It just didn't make any sense. 31 00:01:41,352 --> 00:01:42,228 Who would do this? 32 00:01:42,937 --> 00:01:44,939 [reporter 2] Is it possible that the killer 33 00:01:45,022 --> 00:01:47,316 was acting out of some kind of hatred of women? 34 00:01:47,399 --> 00:01:50,361 [reporter 3] Rumors are rampant about how these students died. 35 00:01:50,444 --> 00:01:54,281 -[Alandt] We were getting death threats. -[Johnson] They're our best friends. 36 00:01:54,365 --> 00:01:56,033 Who's to say that's not gonna happen to us? 37 00:01:57,493 --> 00:02:01,372 [reporter 4] The attack was targeted with a "edged weapon." 38 00:02:01,455 --> 00:02:02,498 [sirens wailing] 39 00:02:03,749 --> 00:02:06,502 [Jim] I do want the story out there. 40 00:02:07,503 --> 00:02:08,838 The right story. 41 00:02:10,005 --> 00:02:15,261 [Paterson] The question everybody wants answered is why? 42 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,389 Why these four kids? 43 00:02:40,119 --> 00:02:42,121 [birds chirping] 44 00:02:51,213 --> 00:02:52,715 [Karen] Dropping Maddie off, 45 00:02:52,798 --> 00:02:55,175 freshman year at the University of Idaho… 46 00:02:58,888 --> 00:03:01,181 as we just even parked for the orientation, 47 00:03:02,224 --> 00:03:05,019 just waiting in line, like, moms were hugging their daughters. 48 00:03:05,102 --> 00:03:07,980 And I had to look away 'cause every time I saw that, 49 00:03:08,564 --> 00:03:10,691 I just wanted to ugly cry. 50 00:03:11,901 --> 00:03:15,487 She was so excited, and I'm just trying to keep it together. 51 00:03:19,450 --> 00:03:22,077 I absolutely always knew that I wanted to be a mom. 52 00:03:24,288 --> 00:03:27,041 I was a very young mother. I was 22, 53 00:03:28,709 --> 00:03:31,086 so I was always so protective of Madison, 54 00:03:32,379 --> 00:03:34,965 this beautiful, peaceful little girl. 55 00:03:38,510 --> 00:03:40,304 I'd never let Maddie cry. 56 00:03:41,847 --> 00:03:43,474 Like, never. 57 00:03:44,934 --> 00:03:47,853 Um, I always made sure that she was comfortable. 58 00:03:47,937 --> 00:03:51,315 The whole thing about, "You don't like the bassinet? All right. [chuckles] 59 00:03:51,398 --> 00:03:53,359 Come sleep in our bed. You don't like the crib? 60 00:03:53,943 --> 00:03:55,235 I'm not gonna fight this. 61 00:03:55,319 --> 00:03:58,864 I'm not gonna let you have a moment of sadness." 62 00:04:02,576 --> 00:04:04,912 [Scott] When I met Maddie, she was three years old. 63 00:04:07,039 --> 00:04:08,540 Now, she is just a… 64 00:04:09,249 --> 00:04:10,417 just a character. 65 00:04:12,378 --> 00:04:14,171 Maddie's Karen's mini-me. 66 00:04:15,130 --> 00:04:18,342 They looked alike and they acted alike and everything. 67 00:04:20,552 --> 00:04:22,846 Maddie was the flower girl at our wedding. 68 00:04:23,639 --> 00:04:26,308 For a long time, she just called me Scotty, you know? 69 00:04:26,976 --> 00:04:33,357 And then when she got older, she ran into some of her friends, and sh-she… 70 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,567 she goes, "No, this is my dad." 71 00:04:35,651 --> 00:04:40,739 And… [stammers] …that felt really good hearing… hearing that. 72 00:04:41,573 --> 00:04:45,577 It just made me feel so proud to be called dad. 73 00:04:48,956 --> 00:04:51,417 [Karen] One day in sixth grade, Maddie says, 74 00:04:51,500 --> 00:04:55,087 "I want to go stay at my new friend's house. Her name is Kaylee." 75 00:04:55,170 --> 00:04:57,923 And I was like, "All right, well… 76 00:04:58,966 --> 00:05:01,510 [stammers] …I want to go meet the family first." 77 00:05:03,053 --> 00:05:05,264 [Scott] I met the Goncalves family, 78 00:05:05,347 --> 00:05:07,808 Kristi and Steve, and we hit it off with them too. 79 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,145 And at that point on, I was like, all right, 80 00:05:11,228 --> 00:05:14,732 I know this is going to be a great union. 81 00:05:14,815 --> 00:05:16,942 I know this is going to be… I-I trust the family. 82 00:05:17,901 --> 00:05:20,487 [Scott] Maddie and Kaylee, they were inseparable. 83 00:05:20,571 --> 00:05:23,615 You'd listen to 'em and you'd think they were sisters. 84 00:05:25,034 --> 00:05:26,410 Kaylee is a powerhouse. 85 00:05:26,493 --> 00:05:30,247 She'd be going 90 miles an hour, and Maddie would just sit back 86 00:05:30,330 --> 00:05:35,002 and listen and then say, like, two words, and then Kaylee'd get all fired up again. 87 00:05:35,085 --> 00:05:39,006 [chuckling] So Maddie has always been the quiet one. 88 00:05:39,631 --> 00:05:42,009 They played off each other perfectly. 89 00:05:42,092 --> 00:05:43,927 -[students chattering] -Our teacher's gone. 90 00:05:44,636 --> 00:05:46,555 We're just sitting here chilling. 91 00:05:48,265 --> 00:05:50,976 -I love Lexi. Is this her phone? -[Mogen] Yes. 92 00:05:51,060 --> 00:05:52,019 Oh, here's my teacher. 93 00:05:55,189 --> 00:05:57,024 [Karen] From sixth grade on, 94 00:05:57,107 --> 00:05:59,526 there was hardly a moment that it wasn't Kaylee and Maddie. 95 00:06:00,110 --> 00:06:02,905 Um, they were both applying to the same colleges 96 00:06:02,988 --> 00:06:04,865 'cause they were never gonna leave each other. 97 00:06:04,948 --> 00:06:06,033 That wasn't gonna happen. 98 00:06:06,116 --> 00:06:08,494 [giggling] I love you. 99 00:06:08,577 --> 00:06:10,537 I love you. [giggles] 100 00:06:11,371 --> 00:06:14,249 [Karen] They decided that they were going to the University of Idaho. 101 00:06:15,125 --> 00:06:17,544 The girls were just excited as can be, 102 00:06:18,378 --> 00:06:21,298 and we were so excited for Maddie and Kaylee 103 00:06:21,381 --> 00:06:23,258 to start this new chapter of their lives. 104 00:06:25,969 --> 00:06:27,429 It just felt right. 105 00:06:27,930 --> 00:06:30,599 -I knew that Maddie would be safe here. -[bell tolls] 106 00:06:30,682 --> 00:06:32,684 [students cheering] 107 00:06:33,310 --> 00:06:34,895 At that time, the girls were much more 108 00:06:34,978 --> 00:06:38,315 about the sorority life than the academics. 109 00:06:38,398 --> 00:06:41,610 ["If I Know Me" playing] 110 00:06:42,945 --> 00:06:45,781 ♪ I bet you bought that beer With you daddy's card ♪ 111 00:06:46,949 --> 00:06:52,079 They had their minds set on what college experience they wanted to have. 112 00:06:52,162 --> 00:06:55,082 ♪ We can take a different route I know you're from a different town ♪ 113 00:06:55,833 --> 00:06:58,043 [Phoebe] Kaylee and I became members of Alpha Phi. 114 00:06:58,127 --> 00:06:59,795 We became pledge sisters. 115 00:07:01,088 --> 00:07:03,715 -Kaylee always played pranks. -[chuckles] 116 00:07:03,799 --> 00:07:06,927 One time, she had, like, 117 00:07:07,010 --> 00:07:10,764 glued her top lip with nail glue to, like, her… up to her nose. 118 00:07:10,848 --> 00:07:13,183 And she thought it would be the funniest thing to prank 119 00:07:13,267 --> 00:07:16,687 her boyfriend at the time, saying her lip filler went wrong. 120 00:07:18,230 --> 00:07:20,816 -[friend laughing] -She did lots. 121 00:07:20,899 --> 00:07:22,734 She would do things all the time. 122 00:07:22,818 --> 00:07:24,695 Kaylee Goncalves, special agent. 123 00:07:24,778 --> 00:07:27,781 I'm with the FBI. Do you have a second? [chuckles] 124 00:07:27,865 --> 00:07:29,449 [Phoebe] And then she'd be like, "Just kidding!" 125 00:07:30,450 --> 00:07:33,287 I mean, that was her happiness right there. [chuckles] 126 00:07:34,538 --> 00:07:38,458 Maddie was one of the first people to ever make me feel included 127 00:07:39,126 --> 00:07:40,419 at University of Idaho. 128 00:07:41,003 --> 00:07:43,380 [Alandt] She was one of the cool girls that was older, 129 00:07:43,463 --> 00:07:45,632 and she was pretty and super funny. 130 00:07:45,716 --> 00:07:48,343 [Squidward] "Spongebob, Patrick, do you mind?" 131 00:07:50,888 --> 00:07:52,931 [Couch] Me and Maddie were in Pi Beta Phi. 132 00:07:53,432 --> 00:07:55,350 We were kind of the older girls. 133 00:07:56,852 --> 00:07:59,521 We were so happy that we found each other, 134 00:07:59,605 --> 00:08:02,858 and we knew we were going to be best friends forever, 135 00:08:04,443 --> 00:08:09,573 and we just kind of took Emily and Xana under our wing. 136 00:08:10,574 --> 00:08:13,827 I'm a Barbie cowgirl. 137 00:08:13,911 --> 00:08:15,579 [friend] What do you have to say about it? 138 00:08:15,662 --> 00:08:16,830 Yeehaw. 139 00:08:16,914 --> 00:08:19,416 [Couch] Xana, she was a wild child. 140 00:08:19,499 --> 00:08:21,543 She could make friends with everyone. 141 00:08:21,627 --> 00:08:23,003 She didn't know a stranger. 142 00:08:23,879 --> 00:08:26,840 [Alandt] After moving in, we all had to go sit on the lawn. 143 00:08:26,924 --> 00:08:30,010 And everybody had to stand up and say who you were. 144 00:08:31,678 --> 00:08:34,890 A girl stood up and said, "Hi, my name is Xana. 145 00:08:34,973 --> 00:08:37,392 It's like Xanax, but without the 'X'." 146 00:08:37,476 --> 00:08:39,895 She was the only name that I remembered. 147 00:08:43,232 --> 00:08:45,651 We were hip to hip, through and through. 148 00:08:45,734 --> 00:08:47,236 Like, all the way throughout. 149 00:08:48,153 --> 00:08:49,738 ♪ I'ma ride my ri-- ♪ 150 00:08:49,821 --> 00:08:51,740 -[Alandt] No. [chuckles] -[chuckles] 151 00:08:51,823 --> 00:08:52,824 She didn't wear makeup, 152 00:08:52,908 --> 00:08:54,701 so she didn't care about, like, looks, really. 153 00:08:54,785 --> 00:08:56,078 [no audible dialogue] 154 00:09:00,207 --> 00:09:02,209 We would all wear sweatshirts out to parties. 155 00:09:03,252 --> 00:09:06,630 It was just very much like we didn't care, but we did. 156 00:09:09,633 --> 00:09:11,635 -[Alandt] You look like a monkey, dude. -[chuckles] 157 00:09:12,302 --> 00:09:13,470 Watch this. 158 00:09:16,848 --> 00:09:18,934 [Alandt] One of the fraternities, Sigma Chi, 159 00:09:19,017 --> 00:09:21,186 had just rushed a new group of freshmen. 160 00:09:21,270 --> 00:09:24,273 [Lauteren] People were like, "Oh, my God. There's two really hot twins 161 00:09:24,356 --> 00:09:26,358 that are joining Sigma Chi." 162 00:09:26,441 --> 00:09:27,734 I was like, okay, I wanna meet them. 163 00:09:28,902 --> 00:09:31,154 [Myers] First day that I met Ethan and Hunter, 164 00:09:31,238 --> 00:09:37,703 seeing these two big, 6'4'', goofy twins coming out. 165 00:09:38,203 --> 00:09:42,374 Took about 30 seconds before we were all laughing hysterically, 166 00:09:42,457 --> 00:09:45,210 and it just felt like a perfect match. 167 00:09:45,294 --> 00:09:46,378 All righty. 168 00:09:46,461 --> 00:09:49,172 My name is Ethan Chapin. I'm a freshman. 169 00:09:49,256 --> 00:09:51,091 I'm from Mount Vernon, Washington. 170 00:09:51,174 --> 00:09:54,177 What I hope to learn in this class is just… 171 00:09:54,261 --> 00:09:57,306 I don't know, I'm just really interested 'cause it is part of my, like, 172 00:09:57,389 --> 00:09:59,182 career path and major and all that. 173 00:09:59,266 --> 00:10:01,476 So just ready to get going. 174 00:10:03,687 --> 00:10:06,315 [Hunter] I mean, we were triplets, me and Ethan and Maizie. 175 00:10:06,982 --> 00:10:08,650 ♪ Sixty-five years… ♪ 176 00:10:08,734 --> 00:10:12,571 [Hunter] Ethan, with his personality, I'd say he was like, almost magnetic. 177 00:10:12,654 --> 00:10:14,614 He was a natural leader in that way, 178 00:10:15,532 --> 00:10:17,034 and I was perfectly fine being the follower 179 00:10:17,117 --> 00:10:20,662 because he'd always have something fun to do and we'd always go and do it. 180 00:10:20,746 --> 00:10:22,789 Ethan was definitely, like, the leader. 181 00:10:22,873 --> 00:10:24,958 Like, I would go to him, and Hunter would go to him. 182 00:10:27,711 --> 00:10:29,129 [Hunter] We were always together. 183 00:10:29,212 --> 00:10:33,008 There was never a time longer than a 12-hour period 184 00:10:33,091 --> 00:10:34,968 where we were separated. 185 00:10:36,970 --> 00:10:39,348 We were raised very centered around family, 186 00:10:39,431 --> 00:10:41,683 so we were friends with everyone, 187 00:10:41,767 --> 00:10:44,144 but we were best friends with each other. 188 00:10:46,438 --> 00:10:49,149 [Stacy] Our kids are IVF. They're true test tube babies, 189 00:10:49,691 --> 00:10:52,944 so you go through that whole process. [chuckles] 190 00:10:53,028 --> 00:10:55,614 So we were at the doctor and, you know, 191 00:10:55,697 --> 00:10:58,450 I had to do an ultrasound to see if I was pregnant. And… 192 00:10:59,743 --> 00:11:01,036 Uh… [clicks tongue] 193 00:11:01,119 --> 00:11:03,997 …he started scanning Stace's belly and… 194 00:11:04,081 --> 00:11:05,791 [inhales sharply] …one, 195 00:11:05,874 --> 00:11:07,793 and there was another one, and then there… [chuckles] 196 00:11:07,876 --> 00:11:10,128 …there was the third one. [chuckles] 197 00:11:10,212 --> 00:11:15,258 So, Jim died and I was like, "Okay, wow," you know? 198 00:11:15,759 --> 00:11:18,637 I don't know. I had a moment, honestly, I had a moment where I was like, 199 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,891 "Okay, I guess this is now our… our life." 200 00:11:24,810 --> 00:11:27,896 I was standing in the kitchen and, you know, I… 201 00:11:27,979 --> 00:11:30,816 My water broke, but it was actually, like, Ethan's foot. [chuckles] 202 00:11:30,899 --> 00:11:32,275 He was at the bottom. 203 00:11:32,984 --> 00:11:35,862 So Ethan got tired of those living conditions. 204 00:11:36,405 --> 00:11:39,116 I mean, I don't want to call him the dominant triplet, but he just… 205 00:11:39,199 --> 00:11:40,826 he just had a big personality. 206 00:11:41,451 --> 00:11:43,328 -[Stacy] Come on! -[clapping] 207 00:11:44,329 --> 00:11:45,831 -[chuckles] -[Ethan grunts] 208 00:11:45,914 --> 00:11:47,457 I don't know, he just made you laugh. 209 00:11:55,382 --> 00:11:58,718 As a parent, what a great thing to have our kids at the same school. 210 00:11:59,511 --> 00:12:03,640 What a great thing for your three kids to still be spending time together. 211 00:12:06,726 --> 00:12:09,563 [Hunter] Throughout college, we had this group of friends 212 00:12:09,646 --> 00:12:12,816 that we hung out with almost every day of the week. 213 00:12:16,194 --> 00:12:20,699 Uh, this is actually King Street, where I've lived the past two years, 214 00:12:20,782 --> 00:12:24,578 and I really like just hanging out with my friends all the time… 215 00:12:25,412 --> 00:12:28,582 [Wood] King Street is a very iconic place. 216 00:12:28,665 --> 00:12:31,460 It's known as the "party place." 217 00:12:33,336 --> 00:12:37,424 I met Xana my junior year, her sophomore year. 218 00:12:39,050 --> 00:12:43,889 I had Xana on Snapchat and I saw her location on King Street. 219 00:12:45,098 --> 00:12:48,310 I texted her and I said, "Oh, my gosh. I'm your new neighbor. 220 00:12:48,393 --> 00:12:50,479 I actually just signed a lease right across the street. 221 00:12:50,562 --> 00:12:51,771 Here's where I'm living." 222 00:12:52,397 --> 00:12:55,442 [Hunter] We'd always hang out with everyone at the King Road house, 223 00:12:55,525 --> 00:12:59,154 which is less than a block away from our house, like a 30-second walk. 224 00:13:00,947 --> 00:13:02,616 [Johnson] I just called it Xana's house. 225 00:13:02,699 --> 00:13:05,410 The friend group came over all the time to Xana's house. 226 00:13:07,078 --> 00:13:09,206 [Lauteren] Maddie and Kaylee lived on the top floor, 227 00:13:09,289 --> 00:13:10,916 Dylan and Xana in the middle, 228 00:13:10,999 --> 00:13:13,001 and then Bethany was in the basement. [chuckles] 229 00:13:16,129 --> 00:13:19,508 I knew Bethany and Dylan from Pi Phi really well. 230 00:13:20,717 --> 00:13:22,427 [Johnson] Dylan is Emily's little. 231 00:13:23,094 --> 00:13:26,181 And, in sorority terms, that means like a little sister. 232 00:13:29,351 --> 00:13:32,562 [Lauteren] We would just sit together, talk and, like, hang out, 233 00:13:32,646 --> 00:13:34,356 and, literally, play country music. 234 00:13:34,439 --> 00:13:35,482 ["Beautiful Crazy" playing] 235 00:13:35,565 --> 00:13:36,733 It's a video? 236 00:13:36,816 --> 00:13:40,237 [all] ♪ She drives me wild ♪ 237 00:13:42,614 --> 00:13:45,951 ♪ Beautiful, crazy… ♪ 238 00:13:46,034 --> 00:13:47,202 [music fades out, ends] 239 00:13:47,285 --> 00:13:48,453 Yeah. 240 00:13:50,872 --> 00:13:54,584 [chuckles] Ow, you're-- 241 00:13:54,668 --> 00:13:56,002 [Wood] Ethan, look at me. 242 00:13:56,086 --> 00:13:57,587 Smile. [chuckles] 243 00:13:57,671 --> 00:13:58,964 [Lauteren] Ethan and Xana. 244 00:13:59,047 --> 00:14:02,342 Everybody else knew they liked each other before they did. 245 00:14:03,593 --> 00:14:07,722 [Johnson] Ethan and Xana were hanging out constantly. 246 00:14:09,140 --> 00:14:11,643 I was so eager for it, 247 00:14:12,686 --> 00:14:17,315 mainly because I liked Ethan so much. [chuckles] 248 00:14:18,191 --> 00:14:19,609 [Alandt] Me and Hunter had been dating, 249 00:14:19,693 --> 00:14:24,614 and Hunter and Ethan were becoming best friends. 250 00:14:24,698 --> 00:14:26,992 We were all hanging out, us four, more. 251 00:14:27,701 --> 00:14:30,662 We just all knew it was different with Ethan and Xana. 252 00:14:31,538 --> 00:14:34,124 [Hunter] They are like the same exact person, 253 00:14:34,207 --> 00:14:35,750 just a boy and a girl. 254 00:14:35,834 --> 00:14:39,379 Like, you get the vibe of Ethan walking into a room 255 00:14:39,462 --> 00:14:40,797 and, like, everyone lightens up. 256 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:42,716 You got the same exact thing from Xana. 257 00:14:45,218 --> 00:14:47,679 [Alandt] This was a great thing for Xana. 258 00:14:48,430 --> 00:14:49,848 It was great for Ethan too. 259 00:14:57,188 --> 00:15:00,317 [Stacy] Parents' weekend, November 5th and 6th. 260 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:01,818 It was 2022. 261 00:15:03,862 --> 00:15:06,448 It was the kids' second year of college, 262 00:15:06,531 --> 00:15:08,867 and it was the most amazing weekend. 263 00:15:09,576 --> 00:15:11,953 We could tell that Ethan was serious with Xana. 264 00:15:13,204 --> 00:15:14,956 [Jim] It was so fun. 265 00:15:15,540 --> 00:15:17,959 You could just see where they were starting to "adult." 266 00:15:18,668 --> 00:15:21,296 And, for Stacy and I, that was huge for us. 267 00:15:25,634 --> 00:15:29,220 We left Sunday morning, and, literally, as we were driving out of town, 268 00:15:29,304 --> 00:15:31,264 Jim and I, and I mean this… 269 00:15:31,348 --> 00:15:33,433 [stammers] …we literally high-fived each other. 270 00:15:33,516 --> 00:15:34,809 We were like, "We've done it." 271 00:15:35,477 --> 00:15:36,561 We've done it. 272 00:15:37,729 --> 00:15:38,980 We're good. [chuckles] 273 00:15:40,690 --> 00:15:44,694 And that's such a huge satisfaction, as a parent, you feel. 274 00:15:45,403 --> 00:15:48,657 [birds chirping] 275 00:15:51,493 --> 00:15:56,247 And then to have it taken away in seven days, 276 00:15:56,331 --> 00:15:58,416 it was very short-lived. 277 00:16:01,252 --> 00:16:04,255 You're supposed to raise your kids so that they fly. 278 00:16:05,090 --> 00:16:09,761 And we'd had j… literally had a week of that. One week. 279 00:16:15,058 --> 00:16:17,394 -[church bell tolling] -[crows cawing] 280 00:16:33,660 --> 00:16:35,578 [Johnson] It started off like any normal day. 281 00:16:36,413 --> 00:16:39,416 I had slept over at Emily's apartment. 282 00:16:41,793 --> 00:16:44,587 I mean, we got a call. 283 00:16:44,671 --> 00:16:49,759 Uh, I didn't really think much of it. 284 00:16:53,763 --> 00:16:55,348 [Alandt] Dylan had called us. 285 00:16:58,268 --> 00:17:00,687 She and Xana, they were roommates, 286 00:17:02,522 --> 00:17:03,523 and she was like, 287 00:17:03,606 --> 00:17:06,943 "Something weird happened last night. 288 00:17:07,026 --> 00:17:11,072 I don't really know if I was dreaming or not, 289 00:17:11,156 --> 00:17:12,824 but I'm really scared. 290 00:17:12,907 --> 00:17:14,451 Can you come check out the house?" 291 00:17:16,536 --> 00:17:19,122 She was like, "I'm in the basement with Bethany." 292 00:17:19,205 --> 00:17:23,543 She said, uh, "I called for Xana a few times and she hasn't responded, 293 00:17:23,626 --> 00:17:25,378 but will you just come over?" 294 00:17:26,463 --> 00:17:30,216 I was like… [mocking] "Ha ha, sure. Should I bring my… my pepper spray?" 295 00:17:30,884 --> 00:17:32,927 [normal] Uh, not thinking anything of it. 296 00:17:35,138 --> 00:17:38,641 [Lauteren] I lived with Emily at the time, and then I remember her being like, 297 00:17:38,725 --> 00:17:42,479 "Oh, yeah. Let's go to Xana's. Dylan wants us to come over." 298 00:17:42,562 --> 00:17:44,564 She's called us before and been like, "Oh, I'm scared. 299 00:17:44,647 --> 00:17:46,316 Can you bring your boyfriends over?" 300 00:17:46,399 --> 00:17:50,320 But not … It was never anything serious. It was just, like, a pan fell. 301 00:17:50,403 --> 00:17:53,698 Like, actually no-nothing 'cause it's Moscow. 302 00:17:53,782 --> 00:17:56,576 Then we were like, "Oh, yeah, we'll just go over, and Hunter… 303 00:17:56,659 --> 00:17:59,245 And… [stammers] …he'll just check it out." 304 00:17:59,871 --> 00:18:02,999 I don't think I've ever locked a single door in Moscow. 305 00:18:04,125 --> 00:18:07,754 When Dylan had called, I didn't think it was urgent. 306 00:18:08,421 --> 00:18:10,715 So I started walking to Xana's house, 307 00:18:10,799 --> 00:18:16,638 and when we got there, Dylan and Bethany had exited the house. 308 00:18:17,472 --> 00:18:21,935 They… Frightened, just kind of, like, uh, ha… 309 00:18:22,018 --> 00:18:24,020 just hands on their mouth, like, 310 00:18:24,771 --> 00:18:26,564 I-don't-know-what's-going-on type thing. 311 00:18:29,442 --> 00:18:32,612 When I was going up the stairs, Hunter Johnson was already in the house. 312 00:18:33,238 --> 00:18:34,489 We were just a bit behind. 313 00:18:41,454 --> 00:18:44,499 As soon as I stepped in the house, I was like, oh, something is so not right. 314 00:18:44,999 --> 00:18:47,126 Like, you could feel it almost. 315 00:18:50,672 --> 00:18:54,008 The stairs are immediately when you walk in the door to the left. 316 00:18:54,092 --> 00:18:57,887 Then you walk upstairs and there's the living room. 317 00:19:01,307 --> 00:19:04,310 And then all the way down the hall is Xana's room. 318 00:19:07,355 --> 00:19:09,607 Hunter was ahead of me and Emily. 319 00:19:12,110 --> 00:19:15,697 I set foot in the house and immediately was pushed out. 320 00:19:15,780 --> 00:19:18,116 And Hunter was like, "Get out. Somebody call 911." 321 00:19:21,035 --> 00:19:22,036 Yeah. 322 00:19:23,663 --> 00:19:28,418 Hunter had enough courage to tell them 323 00:19:29,127 --> 00:19:33,131 to call the police for not a real reason. 324 00:19:34,173 --> 00:19:38,011 He worded it very nicely. He said, "Tell them there's an unconscious person." 325 00:19:42,098 --> 00:19:45,101 Hunter saved all of us extreme trauma 326 00:19:45,685 --> 00:19:51,441 by not letting us know anything. 327 00:19:54,736 --> 00:19:57,989 [Lauteren] A-And Dylan was the one that was on the phone with 911. 328 00:19:58,072 --> 00:20:01,659 And I had to take the phone from her 'cause she was so completely hysterical. 329 00:20:03,620 --> 00:20:05,538 They're like, "What's the address? What's the address?" 330 00:20:05,622 --> 00:20:07,373 I was like, "1122 King Road." 331 00:20:07,457 --> 00:20:10,084 And she was like, "Well, what happened?" I was like, "I don't know." 332 00:20:11,169 --> 00:20:12,170 And then, 333 00:20:13,838 --> 00:20:16,591 I think that's when Hunter was like, "They didn't have…" 334 00:20:16,674 --> 00:20:18,384 He just looked at me and he was shaking his head. 335 00:20:18,468 --> 00:20:19,928 He was like, "They didn't have a pulse." 336 00:20:20,011 --> 00:20:23,473 And, I mean, even when he said they had no pulse, I still was like, 337 00:20:23,556 --> 00:20:26,351 "Oh, the paramedics are gonna come and, like, revive them." 338 00:20:29,771 --> 00:20:31,230 [sirens wailing in distance] 339 00:20:31,314 --> 00:20:33,066 And then the cops came. 340 00:20:35,443 --> 00:20:38,071 And I saw all the paramedics, like, carrying the bags, 341 00:20:38,696 --> 00:20:41,991 but they never actually went up the stairs or inside at all. 342 00:20:46,037 --> 00:20:49,415 [Hunter] I woke up at about twelve o'clock to my Sigma Chi brother 343 00:20:49,999 --> 00:20:51,626 at the edge of my bed, shaking me. 344 00:20:52,210 --> 00:20:55,254 He's like, "Hunter, you gotta wake up. 345 00:20:55,338 --> 00:20:58,466 Uh, there's cops on King Street." I was like, "What do you mean?" 346 00:20:58,549 --> 00:21:00,760 He's like, "There's cops right in front of the King house." 347 00:21:02,136 --> 00:21:05,139 It's like, okay, that's probably normal. 348 00:21:05,765 --> 00:21:07,600 There's more noise complaints there than… 349 00:21:08,643 --> 00:21:10,728 [chuckles] …anywhere else on campus. 350 00:21:12,772 --> 00:21:17,527 And my brother Ethan basically lived at the King Road house with Xana. 351 00:21:24,534 --> 00:21:27,453 [Wood] At twelve o'clock, I look outside of my window, 352 00:21:27,537 --> 00:21:31,374 which faces 1122 King Road, 353 00:21:32,250 --> 00:21:35,461 and I see my friends standing outside, 354 00:21:36,713 --> 00:21:38,923 Hunter, Emily. 355 00:21:39,507 --> 00:21:42,176 The police were starting to put the caution tape up, 356 00:21:43,094 --> 00:21:48,099 and that's when I knew something really bad happened. 357 00:21:50,518 --> 00:21:54,522 And I ran outside and the first person I grabbed was Emily, 358 00:21:55,189 --> 00:21:56,357 and she was crying. 359 00:21:57,692 --> 00:22:02,113 And Dylan made a comment of, 360 00:22:03,364 --> 00:22:05,616 "I can't believe somebody would do this." 361 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:12,623 And I whispered to Emily, "Where's Xana?" 362 00:22:15,251 --> 00:22:18,671 And she said, "She's inside… 363 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,178 and I think she's dead." 364 00:22:26,763 --> 00:22:29,557 I think all I wanted was to go wake Xana up. 365 00:22:31,142 --> 00:22:33,686 [inhales shakily] And I knew it wasn't gonna happen. 366 00:22:39,776 --> 00:22:42,612 [Hunter] So I was walking over to the King Road house, 367 00:22:43,404 --> 00:22:45,782 and I saw a group of people sitting on the ground, 368 00:22:45,865 --> 00:22:48,034 and it's all the people I've been hanging out with. 369 00:22:48,117 --> 00:22:49,869 [footsteps] 370 00:22:49,952 --> 00:22:53,664 And they all just had this look in their face when I walked up, 371 00:22:53,748 --> 00:22:56,375 like the world had ended. 372 00:22:56,459 --> 00:22:59,629 -[chattering on radio] -[sirens wailing] 373 00:22:59,712 --> 00:23:02,924 [Lauteren] I remember seeing Hunter walking up, 374 00:23:03,633 --> 00:23:05,968 and I remember us all turning and being like, "Oh, my God. 375 00:23:06,052 --> 00:23:09,180 Like, somebody's gonna have to tell him what just happened." 376 00:23:09,263 --> 00:23:11,766 I'm like, "What the hell's going on?" 377 00:23:11,849 --> 00:23:15,311 Like, "Where's Ethan?" And they're like, "Ethan's not here anymore." 378 00:23:16,896 --> 00:23:19,899 [chuckles] "What do you mean Ethan's not here anymore?" 379 00:23:19,982 --> 00:23:21,984 I was like, "Well, where'd he go?" [chuckles] 380 00:23:23,402 --> 00:23:28,407 And they're like, "Y-Your brother's dead." [chuckling] 381 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:30,827 I was like, "That can't be true." 382 00:23:32,829 --> 00:23:34,122 [stammers, sighs] 383 00:23:40,419 --> 00:23:43,256 And then Hunter Johnson was like, 384 00:23:43,881 --> 00:23:47,468 "I think Xana, Ethan were murdered last night." 385 00:23:51,764 --> 00:23:55,184 I didn't even know how to respond to it 'cause it's, like, so unreal 386 00:23:55,268 --> 00:23:58,437 that someone I had spent almost every minute of my life with… 387 00:23:59,355 --> 00:24:01,941 [stammers, chuckles] I don't even know. Just… Sorry. 388 00:24:03,901 --> 00:24:07,029 [sighs, chuckles] 389 00:24:07,113 --> 00:24:10,199 -[breathes deeply, sighs] -[bones cracking] 390 00:24:14,036 --> 00:24:15,872 The first person I called was Maizie. 391 00:24:20,543 --> 00:24:23,379 Literally, all Hunter said was, "You just need to come to Xana's." 392 00:24:24,714 --> 00:24:27,175 And I asked him why, and he was like, "Just come." 393 00:24:27,258 --> 00:24:30,136 "Don't ask any questions. Have someone drop you off." 394 00:24:30,219 --> 00:24:31,679 [wind whistling] 395 00:24:32,638 --> 00:24:36,642 I remember sitting in the car feeling like… 396 00:24:37,351 --> 00:24:38,811 [softly] Oh, my God. I'm gonna cry. 397 00:24:39,312 --> 00:24:41,689 [cries, inhales deeply] 398 00:24:41,772 --> 00:24:44,108 I was, like, feeling like something was wrong. 399 00:24:44,817 --> 00:24:45,902 It was weird. 400 00:24:49,614 --> 00:24:50,698 I just knew. 401 00:24:59,832 --> 00:25:01,292 [Stacy] I was at the grocery store. 402 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,339 I'd run into a friend, and we were standing, 403 00:25:06,422 --> 00:25:10,009 having a short little, you know, "hello" conversation. 404 00:25:10,092 --> 00:25:12,511 And my phone started to ring. And it was… 405 00:25:14,764 --> 00:25:16,140 it was Hunter's voice. 406 00:25:17,225 --> 00:25:20,853 He just said, "Ethan's not here." That's what he said. 407 00:25:21,771 --> 00:25:24,982 He goes, "Ethan's not here." And I'm like, "Well, go get him." 408 00:25:25,066 --> 00:25:26,567 And he just kept repeating it, like, 409 00:25:26,651 --> 00:25:28,694 "They're not… No, you don't understand what I'm telling you. 410 00:25:28,778 --> 00:25:32,823 They're not here. Ethan and Xana are not here." 411 00:25:32,907 --> 00:25:35,952 And I'm like, "Well, go and get them." 412 00:25:36,035 --> 00:25:38,621 Like, I couldn't face the fact that he was dead. 413 00:25:39,747 --> 00:25:42,250 He's like, "No." [sighs] He s… I think he said to me… 414 00:25:42,333 --> 00:25:44,961 He goes, "Mom, you don't understand. They're not on this Earth anymore." 415 00:25:45,044 --> 00:25:46,754 I believe that's what he said to me. 416 00:25:49,048 --> 00:25:51,550 I didn't believe it. [chuckles] 417 00:25:54,470 --> 00:25:56,514 [sniffles] I didn't cry. I didn't… 418 00:25:56,597 --> 00:26:00,268 I just left my cart and walked out of the grocery store. [chuckles] 419 00:26:00,351 --> 00:26:03,604 And I got in the car, and I was just driving down the road and I called Jim. 420 00:26:07,525 --> 00:26:09,110 [Jim] She said, "Ethan was killed." 421 00:26:13,281 --> 00:26:19,287 And I… I wasn't sure what I heard. 422 00:26:19,370 --> 00:26:21,289 I-I-I go, "What?" 423 00:26:22,373 --> 00:26:25,751 "Yeah, something happened to Ethan, and he… and he's been killed." 424 00:26:30,006 --> 00:26:34,510 So, we packed some clothes, and we jumped in the car and… 425 00:26:34,593 --> 00:26:36,929 and drove to Moscow. 426 00:26:38,931 --> 00:26:40,599 -[chattering on radio] -[sirens wailing] 427 00:26:48,232 --> 00:26:50,901 [Lauteren] So, we're sitting on the driveway. 428 00:26:51,694 --> 00:26:54,947 The cops were not speaking to us at all. 429 00:26:55,031 --> 00:26:56,949 I don't even think they were looking at us. 430 00:26:58,784 --> 00:27:00,619 [Hunter] None of the cops would talk to us. 431 00:27:01,704 --> 00:27:04,081 And we were like, "Should we ask them a question?" 432 00:27:04,165 --> 00:27:06,083 Like, "What the fuck just happened?" 433 00:27:06,625 --> 00:27:09,670 I feel like they should talk to us 'cause we're the people sitting outside. 434 00:27:11,380 --> 00:27:14,550 [Lauteren] We sat there for so long with no information. 435 00:27:15,343 --> 00:27:18,054 It just was like, why are we sitting? 436 00:27:19,555 --> 00:27:23,851 Everybody kind of gets that communication that Ethan and Xana are not… 437 00:27:24,769 --> 00:27:26,062 are not alive. 438 00:27:26,645 --> 00:27:27,855 Then it finally clicked. 439 00:27:28,898 --> 00:27:31,984 Oh, my gosh. Where's Kaylee and Maddie? 440 00:27:33,110 --> 00:27:36,489 Their phones are pinging in there. Their phones are inside that house. 441 00:27:37,073 --> 00:27:40,534 [Alandt] We didn't know if they were home. We didn't know if they were in there. 442 00:27:40,618 --> 00:27:42,787 We didn't know anything. We couldn't get ahold of them. 443 00:27:50,878 --> 00:27:52,004 I was sitting next to Dylan, 444 00:27:52,088 --> 00:27:54,090 and she really wanted to find out where they were, 445 00:27:54,173 --> 00:27:56,467 and we never went up there. 446 00:28:06,060 --> 00:28:08,062 [phone buzzing] 447 00:28:12,858 --> 00:28:16,529 We got very frustrated with the police. 448 00:28:19,323 --> 00:28:21,283 We're like, "You can't tell us anything?" 449 00:28:31,210 --> 00:28:33,212 [Lauteren] Word spread so fast in Moscow. 450 00:28:34,130 --> 00:28:37,133 Everybody on King had their windows open and were, like, peeking through the blinds 451 00:28:37,216 --> 00:28:40,553 'cause they saw all the cop cars and, like, the caution tape up by then. 452 00:28:48,018 --> 00:28:52,398 [Karen] My phone rings and it's Maddie's boyfriend, Jake. 453 00:28:54,942 --> 00:28:56,777 And my heart kind of stopped for a second, 454 00:28:57,653 --> 00:29:01,490 and he said, "Karen, do you know what's going on in Moscow right now?" 455 00:29:02,283 --> 00:29:05,619 And I-I was like, "No… I have no idea." 456 00:29:06,412 --> 00:29:09,248 So he said, "There's been a homicide at Maddie's house. 457 00:29:10,458 --> 00:29:11,792 We think Xana's dead." 458 00:29:13,210 --> 00:29:15,504 And my heart just sank. 459 00:29:16,088 --> 00:29:17,089 Like… [stammers] 460 00:29:18,215 --> 00:29:20,384 -[phone buzzing] -I called Maddie and Kaylee, 461 00:29:21,343 --> 00:29:23,179 and there was no answer. 462 00:29:24,054 --> 00:29:25,931 So I called the Moscow Police Department, 463 00:29:26,015 --> 00:29:29,351 and they were like, "Well, we can't… we can't really tell you anything." 464 00:29:30,352 --> 00:29:31,812 And Scott kind of downplayed it. 465 00:29:31,896 --> 00:29:36,150 He's like, "You know, it's probably something so, like, 466 00:29:36,233 --> 00:29:37,902 blown out of proportion kind of thing." 467 00:29:37,985 --> 00:29:40,488 I go, "Let's just go down and have lunch with her. 468 00:29:40,571 --> 00:29:44,825 We'll go and pick her up, and we'll… [stammers] …see what's going on." 469 00:29:53,542 --> 00:29:57,379 [Karen] We got in the car, we got gas, and we headed down to Moscow. 470 00:29:58,881 --> 00:30:01,425 I called the police department again and I said, 471 00:30:01,509 --> 00:30:03,511 "I know you can't tell me anything, 472 00:30:03,594 --> 00:30:06,555 but can you confirm that there's an active homicide investigation 473 00:30:06,639 --> 00:30:08,599 at 1122 King Road?" 474 00:30:09,517 --> 00:30:10,768 And she said, "Yes." 475 00:30:14,730 --> 00:30:19,026 It was on speaker so that Scott could hear, like, this is real. 476 00:30:19,109 --> 00:30:20,653 Whatever this is, it's real. 477 00:30:22,154 --> 00:30:23,322 The whole time, 478 00:30:23,989 --> 00:30:28,744 my mindset was that we were gonna go pick up Maddie and Kaylee 479 00:30:28,827 --> 00:30:32,581 and bring them home, and console them and hug them, 480 00:30:32,665 --> 00:30:36,752 and figure out just… [stammers] …what happened. 481 00:30:38,295 --> 00:30:40,297 [Myers] My stomach dropped. 482 00:30:41,215 --> 00:30:42,800 I didn't know what to think. 483 00:30:42,883 --> 00:30:45,511 I saw the ambulances, cops. 484 00:30:45,594 --> 00:30:48,931 So, the cops still not speaking to us. And then… 485 00:30:49,014 --> 00:30:52,017 [phone buzzing] 486 00:30:53,435 --> 00:30:54,979 [Hunter] All of our phones go off 487 00:30:55,062 --> 00:30:58,983 and there's an alert that says, "Homicide on King Road." 488 00:31:00,526 --> 00:31:04,029 Everyone simultaneously just started bursting into tears. 489 00:31:05,739 --> 00:31:08,158 [Lauteren] We all get the first Vandal Alert, 490 00:31:08,242 --> 00:31:11,787 which is like Amber Alert, but for just University of Idaho students. 491 00:31:12,371 --> 00:31:15,249 [Wood] "Investigating a homicide on King Road." 492 00:31:15,332 --> 00:31:17,543 That didn't say how many. It didn't say who. 493 00:31:20,963 --> 00:31:23,090 [Lauteren] "Homicide being investigated." 494 00:31:26,635 --> 00:31:28,512 Where's Kaylee and Maddie? 495 00:31:31,974 --> 00:31:34,268 We got another Vandal Alert. 496 00:31:34,351 --> 00:31:35,936 [phone buzzing] 497 00:31:36,020 --> 00:31:37,813 [Hunter] "Four students found dead." 498 00:31:37,896 --> 00:31:39,565 Quadruple murder. 499 00:31:39,648 --> 00:31:43,193 And we look at the text and we're all like, "What the f… What?" 500 00:31:43,277 --> 00:31:45,279 Because nobody had said anything to us. 501 00:31:46,071 --> 00:31:51,410 That was before the cops even told us that Maddie and Kaylee had passed 502 00:31:51,493 --> 00:31:52,745 and that they were in there. 503 00:31:54,121 --> 00:31:57,541 I don't even know if I looked at my phone or if somebody showed me. [sniffles] 504 00:31:57,625 --> 00:31:58,626 But peop… They were, like… 505 00:31:58,709 --> 00:32:01,712 some of the girls started, like, yelling at the police guys. 506 00:32:01,795 --> 00:32:04,006 I show him my phone. And I go, "What the fuck is this?" 507 00:32:04,548 --> 00:32:07,760 And he just looked at me. He goes… He, like, grabs my phone and he's like, 508 00:32:07,843 --> 00:32:10,262 "I didn't even know they were sending this. I'm so sorry." 509 00:32:10,346 --> 00:32:11,930 And we were like, "Well, what does this mean?" 510 00:32:12,014 --> 00:32:13,724 He was like, "All four of them." 511 00:32:16,852 --> 00:32:21,732 And at that moment, I think it's when everything kind of became real… 512 00:32:21,815 --> 00:32:23,984 [inhales deeply] 513 00:32:24,068 --> 00:32:25,736 …and I was like, "Oh, my God." 514 00:32:26,403 --> 00:32:27,404 Like… 515 00:32:29,531 --> 00:32:30,699 "What's going on?" 516 00:32:30,783 --> 00:32:33,619 [sirens wailing] 517 00:32:33,702 --> 00:32:35,537 "What happened inside of that house?" 518 00:32:36,622 --> 00:32:38,916 [chattering on radio] 519 00:32:38,999 --> 00:32:42,503 [Myers] I was texting Emily asking what's going on. 520 00:32:42,586 --> 00:32:49,009 And I was informed by her that Hunter went into Xana's room 521 00:32:49,093 --> 00:32:54,723 and found them with wounds, a lot of blood. 522 00:32:54,807 --> 00:32:58,852 -And this looked and felt like an attack. -[shutter clicks] 523 00:32:58,936 --> 00:33:01,105 -A malicious, you know, attack. -[shutter clicks] 524 00:33:02,231 --> 00:33:04,316 -[shutter clicks] -[Lauteren] Who would do that? 525 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,820 Like, there's literally nobody that disliked them. 526 00:33:16,620 --> 00:33:18,706 They asked us all to come to the police station. 527 00:33:19,331 --> 00:33:22,543 I'd never been to a police station, so I didn't realize what was gonna happen. 528 00:33:23,877 --> 00:33:29,216 They took us one by one in an area with a single cop. 529 00:33:30,968 --> 00:33:32,970 [Johnson] They would ask me normal things like, 530 00:33:33,637 --> 00:33:35,681 "What were you doing the day before? 531 00:33:35,764 --> 00:33:38,851 Do you know of anyone who might want to do things like this?" 532 00:33:38,934 --> 00:33:42,730 But I don't know anyone who would ever want to do that. 533 00:33:47,860 --> 00:33:49,987 "What happened? What did you see?" 534 00:33:52,990 --> 00:33:56,410 They were trying to clear us, mostly. I th… I-I'm assuming. 535 00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:02,875 [Karen] So we got to the police department. 536 00:34:03,709 --> 00:34:06,670 I remember running up the stairs and just trying to find anyone to talk, 537 00:34:06,754 --> 00:34:08,422 like anyone to… [inhales sharply] 538 00:34:10,382 --> 00:34:12,968 …just… [breathes shakily] …anyone. 539 00:34:15,095 --> 00:34:18,932 And, finally, they put us in a little room, 540 00:34:20,309 --> 00:34:23,729 and they came into the back door… [sniffles] …and kind of opened this file. 541 00:34:24,313 --> 00:34:26,106 And the officer kind of explained, 542 00:34:27,566 --> 00:34:30,736 "There has been a homicide in your daughter's house, 543 00:34:31,779 --> 00:34:33,405 and there are four victims." 544 00:34:34,865 --> 00:34:37,826 And, instantly, we were like, "What?" 545 00:34:37,910 --> 00:34:40,329 [cries] It just made no sense. 546 00:34:41,705 --> 00:34:46,126 [sniffles, breathing shakily] And he said Maddie was a victim. 547 00:34:47,169 --> 00:34:48,378 [sniffles] 548 00:34:48,962 --> 00:34:51,840 And then I said, "What about Kaylee?" 549 00:34:51,924 --> 00:34:54,885 He said Kaylee was… [inhales sharply] …also a victim. 550 00:34:55,469 --> 00:34:56,762 [crying] 551 00:35:00,224 --> 00:35:02,768 I just remember just being so angry. 552 00:35:02,851 --> 00:35:06,647 I was like… like… [stammers] "This can't be true." 553 00:35:08,148 --> 00:35:12,110 I mean, this is Idaho. I mean, we're… 554 00:35:12,194 --> 00:35:16,573 Things like this, you see it on TV, you know, 555 00:35:16,657 --> 00:35:19,868 [stammers] …East Coast or something like that, or… 556 00:35:21,370 --> 00:35:23,038 And then we found out about the other two. 557 00:35:23,121 --> 00:35:26,166 And it's, like… [inhales deeply, stammers] …what is going on here? 558 00:35:26,250 --> 00:35:29,545 This is ridiculous. This is unbelievable. It's, like… No. 559 00:35:35,259 --> 00:35:37,094 [Karen sighs] They couldn't tell us anything. 560 00:35:37,177 --> 00:35:38,470 They had no details. 561 00:35:41,723 --> 00:35:44,059 So our minds were just circling. 562 00:35:46,603 --> 00:35:48,146 What could have happened here? 563 00:35:49,898 --> 00:35:52,025 What possibly happened in that house? 564 00:35:54,319 --> 00:35:56,738 [Scott, shakily] They were s-still working the scene… 565 00:35:58,949 --> 00:36:01,326 and they couldn't let us near it, or… 566 00:36:02,452 --> 00:36:05,581 We couldn't s… we couldn't see anybody or the girls. 567 00:36:05,664 --> 00:36:08,417 They're just like… Oh. 568 00:36:08,500 --> 00:36:10,627 We're like, "Well, what are we supposed to do?" 569 00:36:11,879 --> 00:36:15,883 [sighs] I remember sitting in the, um, parking lot of the Moscow Police, 570 00:36:16,967 --> 00:36:20,554 and as we're just barely getting in the car, I said to Scott, 571 00:36:22,097 --> 00:36:24,099 "There was nothing we could have done." 572 00:36:24,182 --> 00:36:25,183 [sniffles] 573 00:36:25,267 --> 00:36:27,102 "There was nothing we could have done." 574 00:36:27,185 --> 00:36:30,063 [sniffling, gulps] 575 00:36:30,147 --> 00:36:34,026 [stammering] The… These are your own kids going off to college, you know? 576 00:36:34,109 --> 00:36:37,029 And they're supposed to be safe and have a good time, 577 00:36:38,363 --> 00:36:39,907 you know, get an education. 578 00:36:40,866 --> 00:36:43,076 [stammers] Something like this isn't supposed to happen. 579 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,162 [crickets chirping] 580 00:36:49,708 --> 00:36:53,378 I've been here in Moscow on scene since about 3:00 p.m. 581 00:36:53,462 --> 00:36:56,381 Since I've been here, I've watched Moscow police cars 582 00:36:56,465 --> 00:36:58,508 come in and out of this neighborhood, 583 00:36:58,592 --> 00:37:00,510 where officials found four people dead. 584 00:37:00,594 --> 00:37:04,306 Moscow Police say they responded to a call here on King Road 585 00:37:04,389 --> 00:37:06,141 for an unconscious individual. 586 00:37:06,224 --> 00:37:08,769 This is very much a developing situation, 587 00:37:08,852 --> 00:37:10,479 and we will continue to stay on the ground 588 00:37:10,562 --> 00:37:13,482 until we have more information to report back to you. 589 00:37:17,194 --> 00:37:18,779 [Jim] We drove to Moscow. 590 00:37:20,906 --> 00:37:23,450 Um, we got there, I think it was, like, nine o'clock at night. 591 00:37:25,786 --> 00:37:27,454 We drove to the jail, 592 00:37:28,538 --> 00:37:34,336 and we sat down with the police and they told us what had happened. 593 00:37:35,629 --> 00:37:36,713 [Stacy] At that point, 594 00:37:36,797 --> 00:37:40,217 I don't think anybody even knew the extent of… [stammers] …anything. 595 00:37:42,636 --> 00:37:45,722 There was just these four incredible college kids. 596 00:37:46,431 --> 00:37:47,683 We just knew they were gone. 597 00:37:49,101 --> 00:37:53,397 The university had rented a… a block of rooms. 598 00:37:55,023 --> 00:37:56,274 After the police department, 599 00:37:56,358 --> 00:37:58,944 we took each of the kids and they picked up a couple of things, 600 00:37:59,027 --> 00:38:01,780 and we had to go sleep in this hotel room together. 601 00:38:04,324 --> 00:38:08,286 [Hunter] We're just sitting in the sliding doors of a hotel lobby 602 00:38:08,370 --> 00:38:10,914 just crying, like, out loud. 603 00:38:15,377 --> 00:38:18,046 [Stacy] We had an adjoining room, and Maiz and Hunt were in there, 604 00:38:18,130 --> 00:38:20,173 but we all wound up just laying together and… 605 00:38:22,175 --> 00:38:25,679 You know, there's not a lot you can… What do you talk about in that moment? 606 00:38:28,181 --> 00:38:31,476 [Jim] The kids were kind of in the same state of mind as Stace and I were. 607 00:38:32,019 --> 00:38:35,939 They really were like, "What has just happened here? 608 00:38:37,232 --> 00:38:39,985 What has happened to our family? What happened to Ethan?" 609 00:38:42,404 --> 00:38:44,781 I remember I didn't sleep. 610 00:38:46,199 --> 00:38:49,870 I mean, I don't think any of us slept for days. 611 00:38:53,081 --> 00:38:57,586 [Wood] The university said that we are putting people who were closely affected 612 00:38:57,669 --> 00:39:00,589 in a hotel room for the night to get you off King Street. 613 00:39:00,672 --> 00:39:03,467 Um, and I said, "Okay. Yeah." Like, "We don't feel safe here. 614 00:39:03,550 --> 00:39:05,218 Honestly, we don't feel safe anywhere." 615 00:39:06,303 --> 00:39:10,640 Emily and Hunter were there. Josie, Dylan, Bethany. 616 00:39:11,516 --> 00:39:14,269 [Johnson] That's when I first really cried. It was right there. 617 00:39:14,352 --> 00:39:16,104 I mean, I just explained to my mom. 618 00:39:16,188 --> 00:39:18,315 I was like, "I don't know what's going on, 619 00:39:18,398 --> 00:39:21,526 um, but this is what just happened to me this morning. 620 00:39:21,610 --> 00:39:23,445 Um, what do I do?" 621 00:39:26,448 --> 00:39:28,158 [Wood] We sat in the hallway. 622 00:39:29,618 --> 00:39:32,370 Hunter was still in shock. I think we all were, 623 00:39:32,454 --> 00:39:34,581 but he was just so… 624 00:39:35,916 --> 00:39:37,584 Very, like, ghost. 625 00:39:39,127 --> 00:39:41,630 And I think Emily was really, really worried about him. 626 00:39:44,174 --> 00:39:47,552 [Johnson] I think the realism actually set in, 627 00:39:47,636 --> 00:39:50,722 and I was very terrified. 628 00:39:50,806 --> 00:39:52,974 I mean, I didn't sleep that whole first night. 629 00:39:57,854 --> 00:39:59,773 [Alandt] Me and Hunter went to bed scared. 630 00:40:03,026 --> 00:40:06,363 And every noise we heard, we thought we were gonna be attacked. 631 00:40:06,446 --> 00:40:10,200 I was like, "Is there someone here right now? I don't even know." 632 00:40:10,283 --> 00:40:13,203 Like, I… I was… I'm… I was truly scared. 633 00:40:18,542 --> 00:40:21,128 [footsteps echoing] 634 00:40:22,963 --> 00:40:25,590 [Alandt] Fear of unknown got to all of us. 635 00:40:27,300 --> 00:40:28,468 Why would it happen to me? 636 00:40:28,552 --> 00:40:30,554 Why would it happen to my friends? [inhales shakily] 637 00:40:31,513 --> 00:40:34,432 They're our best friends. So if they… that just happened to our best friends, 638 00:40:34,516 --> 00:40:36,560 like, who's to say that's not gonna happen to us? 639 00:40:36,643 --> 00:40:38,645 [crickets chirping] 640 00:40:39,938 --> 00:40:41,648 [reporter 1] News out of Idaho, 641 00:40:41,731 --> 00:40:44,818 where four college students were killed early Sunday morning. 642 00:40:44,901 --> 00:40:46,987 Their bodies found in an off-campus house. 643 00:40:48,697 --> 00:40:50,699 [reporter 2] Police do still have this house here 644 00:40:50,782 --> 00:40:53,910 blocked off with crime tape, investigating here. 645 00:40:56,580 --> 00:40:59,624 [reporter 3] Police say it was a targeted attack near the University of Idaho. 646 00:40:59,708 --> 00:41:02,961 [reporter 4] …saying that it was an isolated and a targeted attack, 647 00:41:03,044 --> 00:41:05,463 but no supporting information around that. 648 00:41:06,173 --> 00:41:08,592 [Alandt] It was random to all of us, 649 00:41:10,302 --> 00:41:12,971 but they said it was targeted. 650 00:41:14,264 --> 00:41:16,183 We were a big group of friends. 651 00:41:16,266 --> 00:41:19,102 Why would you target those four specifically? 652 00:41:20,729 --> 00:41:23,648 And so, there's a big realization 653 00:41:23,732 --> 00:41:26,151 that we had been stalked for so many months 654 00:41:27,027 --> 00:41:28,111 and had no clue. 655 00:41:29,404 --> 00:41:33,408 And we would have no clue if we were currently. 656 00:41:34,492 --> 00:41:38,496 There's this person out there who had just murdered our brother, 657 00:41:39,706 --> 00:41:41,458 and he's still out there somewhere. d just murdered our brother,