1 00:00:12,596 --> 00:00:15,141 [Berriochoa] That night, I had left an apartment complex 2 00:00:15,224 --> 00:00:17,768 near the King Road house at 4 a.m., 3 00:00:19,103 --> 00:00:23,190 and I remembered thinking to myself that it was eerily quiet. 4 00:00:24,442 --> 00:00:30,156 Usually, you can see the last remnants of people leaving a party, 5 00:00:30,239 --> 00:00:31,741 but it was silent. 6 00:00:37,580 --> 00:00:39,206 [Johnson] This is gonna sound really weird, 7 00:00:39,290 --> 00:00:42,835 but, that night, me and Emily woke up in the middle of the night. 8 00:00:43,753 --> 00:00:47,757 [Alandt] As soon as I woke up, I saw Hunter locking the door. 9 00:00:48,841 --> 00:00:50,384 I don't think I've ever locked that door. 10 00:00:53,304 --> 00:00:56,849 [Johnson] It felt like there was something pulling me towards doing that. 11 00:00:58,559 --> 00:01:01,353 [Berriochoa] I hustled up and got home as quick as I could. 12 00:01:02,438 --> 00:01:05,816 It was like my intuition was telling me something was wrong before I even knew. 13 00:01:32,092 --> 00:01:36,639 [Epperly] The probable cause affidavit revealed what Maddie, Kaylee, 14 00:01:36,722 --> 00:01:40,226 Xana and Ethan were doing that night before they died. 15 00:01:42,186 --> 00:01:45,815 It's painted the most detailed picture yet of what happened that night. 16 00:01:49,610 --> 00:01:53,322 [Alandt] A few weeks after that night, Dylan had expressed to me what happened. 17 00:01:55,741 --> 00:01:58,994 She heard Kaylee and Maddie come home, 18 00:01:59,703 --> 00:02:03,707 and she heard them chitchatting on the couch for a while. 19 00:02:03,791 --> 00:02:07,253 Uh, the couch was on the wall of her bedroom, 20 00:02:08,212 --> 00:02:11,549 and she was pretty much sleeping through it. 21 00:02:13,551 --> 00:02:17,972 [Paterson] The surviving roommates, Bethany Funke and Dylan Mortensen, 22 00:02:18,055 --> 00:02:21,934 confirm that all members of the King Road residence 23 00:02:22,017 --> 00:02:24,478 were asleep by 4 a.m. 24 00:02:24,562 --> 00:02:26,814 That's with the exception of Xana Kernodle. 25 00:02:28,607 --> 00:02:32,695 At 4 a.m., DoorDash drops off an order for Xana. 26 00:02:33,863 --> 00:02:36,699 [Epperly] At 4:05 a.m., a white Elantra is seen 27 00:02:36,782 --> 00:02:41,370 driving in front of the King Road house, making a turn and then parking. 28 00:02:42,496 --> 00:02:47,376 [Paterson] And cell phone data shows that Xana was on TikTok around 4:12 a.m. 29 00:02:48,335 --> 00:02:52,506 [Epperly] That is when Dylan hears some commotion, kind of, upstairs. 30 00:02:53,632 --> 00:02:57,052 She thought she heard someone say, "There's someone here." 31 00:02:58,554 --> 00:03:01,724 She looked out of her bedroom door on the second floor 32 00:03:01,807 --> 00:03:03,142 and didn't see anything. 33 00:03:04,226 --> 00:03:07,271 Dylan said that she remembered hearing crying. 34 00:03:08,439 --> 00:03:10,649 And she thought she heard a male voice say, 35 00:03:10,733 --> 00:03:12,151 "It's okay. I'm going to help you." 36 00:03:13,027 --> 00:03:16,864 [Paterson] Video from next door at 4:17 a.m. captures the sound 37 00:03:16,947 --> 00:03:19,491 of a whimper and a loud thud. 38 00:03:19,575 --> 00:03:22,536 A dog barking can also be heard on the footage. 39 00:03:23,203 --> 00:03:25,539 [Epperly] Dylan opens her door for a third time, 40 00:03:25,623 --> 00:03:29,418 and she describes seeing a man with bushy eyebrows. 41 00:03:29,501 --> 00:03:32,421 [Paterson] This person walked past her bedroom 42 00:03:32,504 --> 00:03:35,841 and out the sliding glass door of the back room. 43 00:03:35,925 --> 00:03:39,637 She said that she just scaredly closed the door, 44 00:03:40,429 --> 00:03:41,680 like, boom. 45 00:03:47,603 --> 00:03:49,813 Dylan got really scared. 46 00:03:50,731 --> 00:03:53,525 She was trying to lock her door 47 00:03:53,609 --> 00:03:55,694 -and she started calling Bethany… -[phone buzzing] 48 00:03:55,778 --> 00:03:59,573 …calling Xana, calling Ethan, calling Kaylee, calling Maddie. 49 00:03:59,657 --> 00:04:00,491 [buzzing continues] 50 00:04:00,574 --> 00:04:03,827 Trying to see if anyone's awake 'cause she's like, "What the hell's going on? 51 00:04:03,911 --> 00:04:06,455 Someone needs to get up and tell me who was here." 52 00:04:07,373 --> 00:04:10,084 Eventually, she just decided to go for it, 53 00:04:10,167 --> 00:04:14,380 and she made a run for it to Bethany's room down in the basement. 54 00:04:17,591 --> 00:04:19,259 Dylan was like, "Did you hear any of that?" 55 00:04:19,343 --> 00:04:21,345 And Bethany was like… [scoffs] "No." 56 00:04:21,929 --> 00:04:27,226 And so, I think that Dylan was probably just like, 57 00:04:27,309 --> 00:04:28,727 "I must have imagined it, 58 00:04:30,229 --> 00:04:33,816 and if you didn't hear anything, then let's go to bed together safely." 59 00:04:36,068 --> 00:04:41,448 I think that she 100% heard the murders of Xana and Ethan. 60 00:04:41,532 --> 00:04:44,827 I am confused on how one of the roommates saw him, 61 00:04:44,910 --> 00:04:47,413 but then the cops were not called until noon. 62 00:04:47,496 --> 00:04:50,666 Eight hours were in between. 63 00:04:50,749 --> 00:04:52,793 I… I just… I have n… I have no words. 64 00:04:52,876 --> 00:04:56,630 [Franklin] When we hear stories about people faced with something 65 00:04:56,714 --> 00:05:00,968 that's unexpected, that's scary, that's happening, um, 66 00:05:01,051 --> 00:05:05,639 that could be threatening or dangerous, and they act in ways we wouldn't expect, 67 00:05:05,723 --> 00:05:12,021 it's actually exactly how we should expect them to behave. 68 00:05:12,104 --> 00:05:17,526 Because you're not gonna be necessarily thinking logically or rationally 69 00:05:17,609 --> 00:05:18,736 in the manner that you would, like, 70 00:05:18,819 --> 00:05:20,487 you and I are sitting here and talking about it. 71 00:05:20,571 --> 00:05:24,158 Folks are not gonna understand that this behavior 72 00:05:24,241 --> 00:05:26,493 is the behavior of somebody who's just experienced trauma. 73 00:05:28,245 --> 00:05:32,583 [Wood] I'm sure Dylan and Bethany see these hurtful comments, 74 00:05:33,167 --> 00:05:35,169 and they can't really say anything back to it. 75 00:05:35,919 --> 00:05:42,301 But, you know, they are not speaking out for obvious reasons. 76 00:05:42,384 --> 00:05:43,385 Legal reasons. 77 00:05:44,136 --> 00:05:49,725 And that's what the public, I don't think, necessarily understands. 78 00:05:51,351 --> 00:05:54,855 [Alandt] I think it's very important for everybody to know 79 00:05:54,938 --> 00:05:56,774 that "what if" doesn't matter 80 00:05:56,857 --> 00:06:01,361 because if she had known what was going on, 81 00:06:01,445 --> 00:06:03,155 it would have been too late anyways. 82 00:06:09,078 --> 00:06:11,914 It wasn't until the morning when she'd realized, 83 00:06:11,997 --> 00:06:15,501 "Holy shit. That couldn't have been a dream." 84 00:06:16,335 --> 00:06:20,339 And that's when I got my phone call from her. 85 00:06:20,422 --> 00:06:22,424 They hadn't even gone upstairs or anything. 86 00:06:22,508 --> 00:06:25,010 She just called and said, "Something weird happened. 87 00:06:25,761 --> 00:06:28,597 I thought it was a dream. I'm not quite sure anymore. 88 00:06:29,681 --> 00:06:33,685 I tried to call everybody to wake 'em up 89 00:06:33,769 --> 00:06:35,187 and no one's answering." 90 00:06:35,270 --> 00:06:37,064 I was like, "Okay. I'll come over." 91 00:06:38,398 --> 00:06:40,275 [Lauteren] That morning, Emily had said, like, 92 00:06:40,359 --> 00:06:41,944 "Dylan wants us to come over." 93 00:06:42,611 --> 00:06:45,948 And I remember, when I set foot in the house, Hunter was like, 94 00:06:46,031 --> 00:06:47,449 "Get out. Somebody call 911." 95 00:06:48,325 --> 00:06:51,161 Dylan was the one that was on the phone with 911, 96 00:06:51,245 --> 00:06:54,873 and I had to take the phone from her 'cause she was so completely hysterical. 97 00:06:56,834 --> 00:06:58,669 They're like, "What's the address? What's the address?" 98 00:06:58,752 --> 00:07:00,754 I was like, "1122 King Road." 99 00:07:01,380 --> 00:07:03,841 [siren blaring] 100 00:07:03,924 --> 00:07:06,927 [Epperly] Police entered the house and went up to the second floor. 101 00:07:08,220 --> 00:07:10,764 They went into Xana's bedroom 102 00:07:10,848 --> 00:07:15,018 and found her and Ethan dead with stab wounds. 103 00:07:17,521 --> 00:07:21,316 Police then went up to the third floor and into Maddie's bedroom, 104 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:25,404 where they found both Maddie and Kaylee in Maddie's bed, 105 00:07:25,487 --> 00:07:27,322 dead with multiple stab wounds. 106 00:07:28,866 --> 00:07:31,702 I believe what you're gonna find out is that this killer 107 00:07:31,785 --> 00:07:33,620 was stalking a particular individual. 108 00:07:33,704 --> 00:07:35,622 Maddie could have been an intended target 109 00:07:35,706 --> 00:07:39,960 'cause both Kaylee and Maddie were sleeping together in Maddie's bedroom. 110 00:07:40,043 --> 00:07:43,547 Maddie would have been the first person the killer had access to 111 00:07:43,630 --> 00:07:45,966 when they entered the room over here. 112 00:07:46,049 --> 00:07:51,972 If that's true, then does that mean she was the target? 113 00:07:52,598 --> 00:07:54,725 [Epperly] They said the attack was targeted, 114 00:07:54,808 --> 00:07:57,561 then they said they're not sure if one person was targeted. 115 00:07:57,644 --> 00:08:00,564 I don't know how he would have found them to stalk them. 116 00:08:00,647 --> 00:08:02,858 [no audible dialogue] 117 00:08:02,941 --> 00:08:04,276 We don't hang out with Wazzu people, 118 00:08:04,359 --> 00:08:07,321 so I just don't know how they would have ever, like, met 119 00:08:07,404 --> 00:08:09,031 for him to stalk them. 120 00:08:09,114 --> 00:08:10,866 And I don't know how he knew where they lived. 121 00:08:17,623 --> 00:08:19,458 [Paterson] One of the things that makes this case strange 122 00:08:19,541 --> 00:08:24,963 is that most often the perpetrator knows the victim, 123 00:08:25,047 --> 00:08:28,717 but we still do not know if Kohberger did it at all. 124 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:30,093 And if he did it, 125 00:08:30,177 --> 00:08:32,554 if he had a relationship at all with these victims, 126 00:08:32,638 --> 00:08:34,139 did he know them at all? 127 00:08:36,141 --> 00:08:37,893 Those are answers we don't have yet. 128 00:08:37,976 --> 00:08:43,190 Because when it comes to Bryan Kohberger, we know very little about him officially. 129 00:08:44,566 --> 00:08:47,819 A lot of what we know really just comes from his records at school, 130 00:08:47,903 --> 00:08:50,697 the fact that he applied for certain internships, 131 00:08:50,781 --> 00:08:55,327 that he was fascinated with what motivates people to commit crimes. 132 00:08:55,410 --> 00:08:58,413 He was someone who traveled to school and then bounced. 133 00:08:58,497 --> 00:09:01,041 So you didn't really think too much of him, 134 00:09:01,124 --> 00:09:06,421 and you would try to get personal, and he wouldn't give you much. 135 00:09:06,505 --> 00:09:09,841 He never had any friends he really associated with. 136 00:09:09,925 --> 00:09:13,220 I don't think too many people paid much mind to him. 137 00:09:13,303 --> 00:09:15,472 I mean, people say, "Oh, he was a loner," 138 00:09:15,555 --> 00:09:18,892 or, you know, "He allegedly had problems with girls." 139 00:09:18,976 --> 00:09:23,313 My exact words for that were, "This person has trouble with women." 140 00:09:24,398 --> 00:09:26,483 [Paterson] And when you look at the victims, 141 00:09:27,025 --> 00:09:30,821 they're attractive, they're involved in Greek row, 142 00:09:30,904 --> 00:09:32,990 they look like the kind of kids that were popular, 143 00:09:33,073 --> 00:09:35,409 you know, surrounded by friends. 144 00:09:43,083 --> 00:09:45,168 My supervisor pulled me aside in her office. 145 00:09:45,252 --> 00:09:47,462 She's like, "Off the record, what do you think happened here?" 146 00:09:47,546 --> 00:09:51,300 And I said, "I think this was an incel." 147 00:09:55,345 --> 00:09:57,973 The definition there is "involuntarily celibate." 148 00:09:58,056 --> 00:10:04,146 So this is a sort of person that cannot connect with the other gender sexually 149 00:10:04,229 --> 00:10:08,066 and maybe feels some resentment toward that gender. 150 00:10:08,150 --> 00:10:10,402 [reporter 1] Hayley Willette says they met in 2015 151 00:10:10,485 --> 00:10:11,903 when he took her to a movie, 152 00:10:11,987 --> 00:10:15,699 then insisted on escorting her to her dorm room. 153 00:10:15,782 --> 00:10:20,329 He kept trying to tickle me, and I would ask him to stop, 154 00:10:20,412 --> 00:10:22,164 and he would get very serious. 155 00:10:22,247 --> 00:10:24,875 I proceeded to pretend to throw up in the bathroom, 156 00:10:24,958 --> 00:10:26,501 hoping that he would leave, 157 00:10:26,585 --> 00:10:30,005 and then he messaged me, and he said that I had good birthing hips. 158 00:10:30,088 --> 00:10:33,717 [reporter 2] I still think the more we find out, that this was incel rage. 159 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:35,052 Rage against women, 160 00:10:35,135 --> 00:10:38,847 uh, because of his history, uh, with women starting in high school 161 00:10:38,930 --> 00:10:41,725 where the girls would be, uh, bullying him. 162 00:10:42,225 --> 00:10:45,979 Certain men feel like they are owed a relationship with a woman. 163 00:10:46,063 --> 00:10:48,273 Uh, that that's not something they should have to earn. 164 00:10:48,357 --> 00:10:50,025 It's something that they should be given. 165 00:10:50,859 --> 00:10:55,113 I did hear about a situation where Kohberger had followed a student 166 00:10:55,197 --> 00:10:58,408 out to, uh, her car, 167 00:10:58,492 --> 00:11:00,118 like, trying to flirt with her, 168 00:11:00,202 --> 00:11:03,914 and she reported it to someone in the Criminal Justice Department. 169 00:11:05,082 --> 00:11:07,334 [Paterson] At Washington State University, 170 00:11:07,417 --> 00:11:10,295 he starts getting into altercations with students, 171 00:11:10,379 --> 00:11:14,174 and we find out later that he was fired from his TA-ship. 172 00:11:14,257 --> 00:11:16,385 [reporter 3] He got more feisty and belligerent, 173 00:11:16,468 --> 00:11:18,678 even arguing with his professors 174 00:11:18,762 --> 00:11:24,518 until December 19th, Bryan Kohberger is officially terminated 175 00:11:24,601 --> 00:11:26,770 by Washington State University. 176 00:11:26,853 --> 00:11:28,438 And I'm pushing 'em for documents. 177 00:11:28,522 --> 00:11:31,608 I wanna know about the stuff about Kohberger with the girls, 178 00:11:31,691 --> 00:11:33,777 if that's true. I wanna see his record. 179 00:11:33,860 --> 00:11:36,154 But, again, it's just tricky 180 00:11:36,238 --> 00:11:39,241 because there's rumors about his behavior at the school, 181 00:11:39,324 --> 00:11:42,119 but none of it's verified until we have the documentation. 182 00:11:45,664 --> 00:11:47,249 [Ferraro] At DeSales University, 183 00:11:47,332 --> 00:11:51,044 some of the people that Bryan and I studied that were serial killers, 184 00:11:51,128 --> 00:11:56,967 were Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer, Ed Kemper and Elliot Rodger. 185 00:11:59,177 --> 00:12:04,599 So Elliot Rodger, he was a young man in college 186 00:12:04,683 --> 00:12:08,520 that was basically jaded and hated his life 187 00:12:08,603 --> 00:12:12,691 because he lacked the attention from friends, family 188 00:12:12,774 --> 00:12:14,776 and, most of all, uh, women. 189 00:12:16,069 --> 00:12:18,071 So Elliot Rodger, one day… 190 00:12:18,155 --> 00:12:21,283 First, he invited some people over that he claimed to be friends with, 191 00:12:21,366 --> 00:12:22,576 he stabbed them to death. 192 00:12:23,410 --> 00:12:26,997 He then went out with firearms to a sorority 193 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,542 and killed, um, a number of women in the sorority. 194 00:12:30,625 --> 00:12:34,421 He then drove around, shot multiple other people in public, 195 00:12:34,504 --> 00:12:37,507 and he ended his own life in his vehicle. 196 00:12:38,675 --> 00:12:41,344 But after the fact, there was a written manifesto 197 00:12:41,428 --> 00:12:43,138 and he basically tells you, 198 00:12:43,221 --> 00:12:45,682 "This is what I did. This is why I did it." 199 00:12:45,765 --> 00:12:48,435 Rodger's sexist rants are part of a culture 200 00:12:48,518 --> 00:12:50,520 that breeds violence against women. 201 00:12:50,604 --> 00:12:51,605 [reporter] Rodger wrote, 202 00:12:51,688 --> 00:12:56,193 "All of those beautiful girls I've desired so much in my life but can never have 203 00:12:56,276 --> 00:12:59,863 because they despise and loathe me, I will destroy." 204 00:12:59,946 --> 00:13:02,157 After Bryan Kohberger is arrested, 205 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:07,954 I start thinking, "Okay, Pappa Rodger, Elliot Rodger." 206 00:13:08,497 --> 00:13:11,500 If you listen to some of the manifestos of Elliot Rodger, 207 00:13:11,583 --> 00:13:15,420 he talks about hating all the girls from Alpha Phi, 208 00:13:16,213 --> 00:13:19,216 the same sorority that Kaylee was in. 209 00:13:20,300 --> 00:13:24,137 [Slaven] Bryan was interested in a lot of things that we learned, 210 00:13:24,846 --> 00:13:28,433 but he did have more of an interest in Elliot Rodger. 211 00:13:28,517 --> 00:13:31,228 I talked to other girls in the class, 212 00:13:31,311 --> 00:13:34,564 where we were all bothered by what Elliot Rodger did, 213 00:13:34,648 --> 00:13:36,608 but Bryan did not seem bothered. 214 00:13:36,691 --> 00:13:37,859 [Franklin] Incel. 215 00:13:37,943 --> 00:13:39,319 In my professional opinion, 216 00:13:39,402 --> 00:13:45,116 this is a particularly dangerous version of misogyny 217 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:50,622 because incel communities have this presence in an online space. 218 00:13:52,541 --> 00:13:55,627 They can say things and provide support for things 219 00:13:55,710 --> 00:13:59,214 that perhaps they wouldn't do in a face-to-face context 220 00:13:59,297 --> 00:14:02,509 because they would be concerned about what the social consequences 221 00:14:02,592 --> 00:14:04,094 or the repercussions would look like. 222 00:14:04,177 --> 00:14:07,013 [mouse clicking] 223 00:14:08,848 --> 00:14:11,518 And because it's immediate, 224 00:14:11,601 --> 00:14:15,188 the speed, the algorithm, the… [stammers] …the echo chamber, 225 00:14:15,272 --> 00:14:17,691 and the anonymity perhaps leads people to think 226 00:14:17,774 --> 00:14:20,443 that their ideas are not so extreme. 227 00:14:21,611 --> 00:14:24,614 Elliot Rodger was glorified and valorized 228 00:14:24,698 --> 00:14:28,410 and martyred among communities that were coming together 229 00:14:28,493 --> 00:14:29,953 in these online spaces. 230 00:14:30,036 --> 00:14:32,038 [typing] 231 00:14:52,684 --> 00:14:54,561 [Paterson] It was just so terrible. 232 00:14:55,228 --> 00:14:58,565 For a while, there was actually a subreddit called Brynation. 233 00:15:03,570 --> 00:15:06,197 It was sort of this Bryan Kohberger fan club, 234 00:15:06,281 --> 00:15:08,742 where people were posting all these theories 235 00:15:08,825 --> 00:15:12,412 about how he could be innocent and writing him letters in jail, 236 00:15:12,495 --> 00:15:17,000 and women sending him money, which is really something else. 237 00:15:22,130 --> 00:15:24,716 We know with the advent of social media, 238 00:15:24,799 --> 00:15:28,470 people are becoming more lonely, more isolated. 239 00:15:33,475 --> 00:15:37,062 So, I think this problem is likely growing 240 00:15:37,145 --> 00:15:41,024 as we see people become more isolated due to technology. 241 00:15:42,275 --> 00:15:44,527 [Lauteren] When they caught Bryan Kohberger, 242 00:15:44,611 --> 00:15:47,280 there was, like, all the fake accounts that came on Instagram 243 00:15:47,364 --> 00:15:49,032 pretending to be Bryan Kohberger. 244 00:15:49,115 --> 00:15:50,992 And I got a DM from one of them that was like, 245 00:15:51,076 --> 00:15:53,453 "Hey, it's Bryan. Sorry for killing your friends." 246 00:15:53,536 --> 00:15:56,122 And I, like, read it and I was like, "What the f… 247 00:15:56,206 --> 00:15:57,332 What the hell?" 248 00:15:57,916 --> 00:15:59,459 I just remember seeing that, and I was like, 249 00:15:59,542 --> 00:16:02,045 "I can't believe, like, somebody sat down and wrote that." 250 00:16:03,213 --> 00:16:05,256 It almost feels, like, scary 'cause I was like, 251 00:16:05,924 --> 00:16:09,552 "This is like… means that people are, like, capable of, like, copycatting it." 252 00:16:15,308 --> 00:16:18,937 [Berriochoa] Until there is a mechanism to stop this kind of thing 253 00:16:19,020 --> 00:16:20,438 from happening on social media, 254 00:16:20,522 --> 00:16:23,191 it's always gonna continue happening, and it's gonna get worse. 255 00:16:23,817 --> 00:16:26,403 I mean, since this case, specifically, 256 00:16:26,486 --> 00:16:29,280 the King Road house has basically become a tourist attraction. 257 00:16:29,364 --> 00:16:32,534 This is where Bryan Shitbag Kohberger 258 00:16:32,617 --> 00:16:37,831 murdered Kaylee, Xana, Ethan and Maddie. 259 00:16:37,914 --> 00:16:41,459 It's not a… It's not an art exhibit. It's, you know… This happened. 260 00:16:41,543 --> 00:16:43,211 It's real. We feel it. 261 00:16:49,217 --> 00:16:52,053 [Eckles] I can only imagine how hard it's been for them at times. 262 00:16:53,304 --> 00:16:55,640 You know, the suspect is in jail just down the road 263 00:16:55,724 --> 00:16:59,144 and whenever there's a trial thing, there's media cameras on campus. 264 00:17:00,603 --> 00:17:01,938 It's overwhelming. 265 00:17:05,984 --> 00:17:08,445 [anchor] We start with breaking news out of Idaho, 266 00:17:08,528 --> 00:17:11,948 where prosecutors have filed to seek the death penalty 267 00:17:12,031 --> 00:17:15,994 against the man accused of killing four University of Idaho students. 268 00:17:16,077 --> 00:17:18,163 Wow. The state must really feel they've got a… 269 00:17:18,246 --> 00:17:20,915 like, a rock-solid case to go after the death penalty. 270 00:17:20,999 --> 00:17:25,086 They've certainly got what it takes to seek a capital punishment here. 271 00:17:25,170 --> 00:17:28,339 [pundit] They're saying that his acts were especially heinous 272 00:17:28,423 --> 00:17:31,134 and that he has an utter disregard for human life. 273 00:17:31,217 --> 00:17:34,304 If they're able to prove just one of these factors, 274 00:17:34,387 --> 00:17:36,431 Bryan Kohberger could be put to death. 275 00:17:43,062 --> 00:17:45,982 [Epperly] Because this is a death penalty case, 276 00:17:46,065 --> 00:17:48,485 there are dozens of court hearings. 277 00:17:49,486 --> 00:17:53,907 And so, it's going to take much longer than other types of cases. 278 00:18:00,121 --> 00:18:03,208 [judge] So, Miss Taylor, where do we start? 279 00:18:03,291 --> 00:18:04,459 Your Honor, in this case, 280 00:18:04,542 --> 00:18:06,961 we have a lot of records that we have to go through. 281 00:18:07,587 --> 00:18:12,342 I know that the court has heard about 51 terabytes of information 282 00:18:12,425 --> 00:18:13,551 that we've received. 283 00:18:13,635 --> 00:18:18,640 There is no possible way I can even read or watch everything I have now 284 00:18:19,349 --> 00:18:21,976 or react to things that are still coming in 285 00:18:22,060 --> 00:18:24,938 if we're to have a deadline in time for trial. 286 00:18:25,021 --> 00:18:28,775 It's impossible for us to do it, so we are not going to be ready. 287 00:18:30,151 --> 00:18:33,238 The defense has, more than the prosecution, 288 00:18:33,321 --> 00:18:35,532 said it's gonna take them longer to prep for trial. 289 00:18:35,615 --> 00:18:37,075 That they're not ready yet. 290 00:18:37,158 --> 00:18:39,202 That's not uncommon in most cases, 291 00:18:39,285 --> 00:18:43,289 but, at this point, they are the ones who are pushing the timeline back. 292 00:18:44,082 --> 00:18:50,004 I don't understand why he can ask for more time… [sighs] 293 00:18:50,088 --> 00:18:52,340 …'cause I wish I had more time with my son. 294 00:18:53,174 --> 00:18:55,844 I don't. I can't buy more time. 295 00:18:57,637 --> 00:19:00,181 [sighs] There's absolute frustration 296 00:19:01,057 --> 00:19:02,559 in that they're just buying time. 297 00:19:04,310 --> 00:19:05,603 They're trying to find loopholes. 298 00:19:06,354 --> 00:19:08,773 Every day is just longer and longer. 299 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,735 You keep putting it off. I mean, a lot could happen, 300 00:19:13,570 --> 00:19:16,823 and the more you put it off, the more can happen. 301 00:19:23,079 --> 00:19:25,832 [Paterson] So the trial's been postponed indefinitely. 302 00:19:26,541 --> 00:19:29,168 We just don't know how long we're actually gonna have to wait. 303 00:19:34,757 --> 00:19:37,260 [Epperly] No matter what the reality is, 304 00:19:37,343 --> 00:19:40,889 until the trial's over, this is gonna have a huge impact on Moscow. 305 00:19:42,015 --> 00:19:44,517 [Maizie] It was kind of, like, dying down a little bit 306 00:19:44,601 --> 00:19:47,395 'cause nobody heard anything new, and then it kind of started again. 307 00:19:47,478 --> 00:19:50,356 It's kind of how it's been, like, a new thing comes up and… 308 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,359 and then it dies down again, and then there's a new thing, and then… 309 00:19:53,443 --> 00:19:54,444 You know? 310 00:19:56,404 --> 00:19:58,072 [Paterson] I mean, could you imagine you're a student, 311 00:19:58,156 --> 00:20:00,366 you're trying to just concentrate on your classes, 312 00:20:00,450 --> 00:20:02,785 and now, for over a year, 313 00:20:02,869 --> 00:20:04,954 anytime you turn on the TV or go on social media, 314 00:20:05,038 --> 00:20:06,623 it's, like, all about this case? 315 00:20:06,706 --> 00:20:09,208 People just couldn't let this case go. 316 00:20:10,209 --> 00:20:15,965 I need to see something besides theories, pings and one piece of touch DNA. 317 00:20:16,049 --> 00:20:17,383 It just doesn't make sense to me 318 00:20:17,467 --> 00:20:19,427 that someone who has studied criminology for years 319 00:20:19,510 --> 00:20:22,472 would leave what's been described by police as a messy crime scene. 320 00:20:22,555 --> 00:20:26,059 This entire court is a sham operation 321 00:20:26,142 --> 00:20:30,688 to cover for people who really did what happened in Moscow, Idaho. 322 00:20:30,772 --> 00:20:34,400 I was under the impression that it would stop, but it didn't. 323 00:20:34,984 --> 00:20:37,320 The first thing that pops up when you Google my name 324 00:20:37,403 --> 00:20:40,073 is still my name connected to four murders. 325 00:20:40,865 --> 00:20:43,952 I'm getting ready to graduate here soon, 326 00:20:44,035 --> 00:20:47,163 and I don't even know how that's gonna affect my ability to get a job. 327 00:20:48,331 --> 00:20:52,794 There's still websites where me and Emily are getting called killers. 328 00:20:52,877 --> 00:20:57,548 Even after posts like Kohberger being arrested, it's just, like, 329 00:20:57,632 --> 00:21:00,718 "Still, these two are behind it." 330 00:21:00,802 --> 00:21:02,303 [cyber sleuth] Idaho Four murders, 331 00:21:02,387 --> 00:21:05,014 quick look at Emily Alandt and Hunter Johnson. 332 00:21:05,098 --> 00:21:09,477 Emily Alandt was, for a while, at least, dating this dude, Hunter Johnson. 333 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,647 There's a bunch of speculation that Hunter and Kaylee had a thing on the side, 334 00:21:12,730 --> 00:21:16,025 which angered Emily, and that was tied to the murders in some way. 335 00:21:16,109 --> 00:21:19,028 There's almost this expectation or pressure 336 00:21:19,112 --> 00:21:20,947 when you go through something like this 337 00:21:21,030 --> 00:21:23,908 that you're supposed to remain poised and respectful. 338 00:21:23,992 --> 00:21:25,618 And I didn't want to. 339 00:21:25,702 --> 00:21:28,037 Because, to me, these people didn't deserve respect. 340 00:21:28,121 --> 00:21:28,997 This is her house. 341 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,958 [Berriochoa] They were causing so much unnecessary pain to the community, 342 00:21:32,041 --> 00:21:34,210 and, eventually, it just became too much. 343 00:21:34,293 --> 00:21:39,048 And I did go private because I, as one person, couldn't take it anymore. 344 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,723 I ended up deleting TikTok, Instagram 345 00:21:47,932 --> 00:21:50,351 and, like, every news media outlet on my phone 346 00:21:50,435 --> 00:21:52,186 just 'cause I didn't want to look at it. 347 00:21:53,813 --> 00:21:57,734 It's like I'm trying to grieve… [chuckles] …in any way possible, 348 00:21:57,817 --> 00:21:59,819 and you guys are not helping with it. 349 00:22:03,156 --> 00:22:06,576 [Alandt] I'm not a huge social media person anymore. 350 00:22:07,201 --> 00:22:09,579 I just… I don't go on it very much. 351 00:22:09,662 --> 00:22:11,664 All my, like, social media is private. 352 00:22:12,874 --> 00:22:17,378 I had no… I had no desire to talk to anyone about anything. 353 00:22:17,462 --> 00:22:18,463 [sniffles] 354 00:22:18,546 --> 00:22:22,091 I think that most accounts were on public. 355 00:22:22,175 --> 00:22:24,844 You don't really think to put it on private. 356 00:22:24,927 --> 00:22:29,932 But there is so much information that is out in the world about you 357 00:22:30,016 --> 00:22:31,476 that you don't even know or post. 358 00:22:31,559 --> 00:22:34,896 Especially when you're in a small town and you're posting where you are, 359 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,732 people are going to be able to figure out very quickly. 360 00:22:38,274 --> 00:22:40,443 So I put my account on private. 361 00:22:41,110 --> 00:22:44,781 [Wood] When they were making rude remarks about my friends who are no longer here… 362 00:22:47,450 --> 00:22:49,452 I didn't want to be on social media. I didn't… 363 00:22:50,203 --> 00:22:52,205 And I… In social media, I… 364 00:22:53,247 --> 00:22:55,666 I feel like I have a love-hate relationship with social media. 365 00:22:56,584 --> 00:23:00,254 People post the good, happy times. 366 00:23:00,338 --> 00:23:04,550 Nobody wants to post a picture of them crying at two o'clock in the morning 367 00:23:04,634 --> 00:23:06,511 because they're still grieving their friends. 368 00:23:09,847 --> 00:23:12,350 [Alandt] I think that the only thing that mattered was… 369 00:23:14,644 --> 00:23:15,812 peace for families. 370 00:23:18,064 --> 00:23:20,274 [Hunter] Our family's view was just to stay out of it. 371 00:23:20,358 --> 00:23:24,570 Like, we're going to do what we do best and just be with each other. 372 00:23:26,197 --> 00:23:29,826 And we don't need the media for anything. 373 00:23:29,909 --> 00:23:32,578 It's not like they're gonna help us bring our brother back. 374 00:23:37,708 --> 00:23:39,460 [Stacy] The very first thing I told my kids 375 00:23:39,544 --> 00:23:41,879 when this heinous thing happened was like, 376 00:23:41,963 --> 00:23:46,342 "This won't sink us as a family. We'll figure it out together." 377 00:23:49,011 --> 00:23:51,430 We'd spent five months in the depths of hell, 378 00:23:52,306 --> 00:23:53,474 and then we just realized, 379 00:23:53,558 --> 00:23:55,643 "Okay, we just have to figure out how to move forward." 380 00:23:55,726 --> 00:24:00,106 So we just made a deal with each other that from that day forward, for our kids, 381 00:24:00,189 --> 00:24:02,150 for our family, for our friends, 382 00:24:02,233 --> 00:24:04,735 that we would wake up every day and put our best foot forward. 383 00:24:13,578 --> 00:24:15,288 You forget you have a choice. 384 00:24:15,371 --> 00:24:18,249 You have a choice to get up and to live your best life. 385 00:24:18,749 --> 00:24:22,920 But I still can't imagine what it must be like to be Maizie and Hunter. 386 00:24:29,510 --> 00:24:31,512 [chuckles, whimpers] 387 00:24:36,225 --> 00:24:38,186 [sniffles] So… 388 00:24:38,269 --> 00:24:39,270 [sniffles] 389 00:24:40,771 --> 00:24:44,525 I mean, to have that kind of a bond with your sibling, you know, 390 00:24:44,609 --> 00:24:47,820 somebody you don't know life without, and have them gone. 391 00:24:47,904 --> 00:24:51,032 [sniffles] But it is what it is. 392 00:24:51,115 --> 00:24:52,700 [inhales deeply] Honestly. 393 00:24:55,995 --> 00:24:57,788 [Hunter] There's never a moment in my life now 394 00:24:57,872 --> 00:24:59,999 where the thought of Ethan not being here isn't there. 395 00:25:00,082 --> 00:25:03,502 Like, that thought is just engraved in my head that he's not here. 396 00:25:04,128 --> 00:25:06,714 And, uh, it's something that I don't think will ever go away. 397 00:25:08,674 --> 00:25:10,760 [Maizie] It's kind of… Sounds bad to say back to normal, 398 00:25:10,843 --> 00:25:16,182 but I think we both, kind of, just try and… [sniffles] …pretend like it's normal. 399 00:25:17,934 --> 00:25:22,355 I feel like that's mostly why I just don't pay attention to anything else because 400 00:25:23,606 --> 00:25:26,776 I just focus on, like, the good things about him. 401 00:25:28,569 --> 00:25:31,656 Not what all else is going on. 402 00:25:39,705 --> 00:25:44,210 [Jim] After the memorial, we were gonna meet up at the cemetery 403 00:25:44,293 --> 00:25:46,045 and try to find a place to put him. 404 00:25:47,129 --> 00:25:48,381 Um… 405 00:25:51,217 --> 00:25:52,343 It was very hard for me. 406 00:25:54,178 --> 00:25:56,764 I… [smacks teeth] 407 00:25:57,556 --> 00:26:01,978 …told Stace that, uh, we can't do this right now. 408 00:26:02,478 --> 00:26:03,938 With… This isn't gonna happen. 409 00:26:04,730 --> 00:26:08,609 Do you put him in the little crematorium? 410 00:26:10,695 --> 00:26:11,737 It just wasn't right. 411 00:26:11,821 --> 00:26:15,491 It's just not a place where you, hmm, put your… 412 00:26:15,574 --> 00:26:16,993 Where-Where do you put your kid? 413 00:26:18,411 --> 00:26:20,204 Right? Where do you put your kid? 414 00:26:20,830 --> 00:26:26,002 So I decided that… [sighs] 415 00:26:26,085 --> 00:26:27,920 …the best place for him to be… 416 00:26:30,423 --> 00:26:31,757 was home. 417 00:26:40,683 --> 00:26:45,688 So he will sit in the basement, uh, 418 00:26:47,189 --> 00:26:48,858 until one of us pass. 419 00:26:50,776 --> 00:26:51,777 [clicks teeth] 420 00:26:52,278 --> 00:26:53,696 [stammers] He's safe. 421 00:26:58,367 --> 00:27:00,619 [clicks teeth, breathes shakily] And I can, uh… 422 00:27:01,787 --> 00:27:03,122 [sniffles] …um, 423 00:27:04,373 --> 00:27:06,375 I can go down and talk to him anytime I want. 424 00:27:10,755 --> 00:27:11,839 And I do. 425 00:27:26,771 --> 00:27:31,484 [Karen] This is where Madison grew up. This is where she lived. 426 00:27:35,946 --> 00:27:37,698 We didn't honestly get a lot back. 427 00:27:38,866 --> 00:27:40,076 Just to be… [stammers] 428 00:27:40,159 --> 00:27:42,912 [interviewer] Meaning you… you didn't want it back? Or you just… 429 00:27:42,995 --> 00:27:44,413 Wasn't able to come back. 430 00:27:45,122 --> 00:27:46,957 So the stuff that was able to come back, 431 00:27:47,041 --> 00:27:49,377 I went through and, like, 432 00:27:49,460 --> 00:27:51,754 "Oh, some of this is silly. Some of this is very sentimental." 433 00:27:51,837 --> 00:27:55,007 Like, I still have the yellow sweater that she was wearing that day. 434 00:27:57,718 --> 00:27:59,720 The sleeves are still rolled up. [sighs] 435 00:28:03,349 --> 00:28:05,643 So I found this sweatshirt when we went down. 436 00:28:05,726 --> 00:28:07,311 It was the first family weekend. 437 00:28:07,937 --> 00:28:13,109 And Maddie really wanted this sweatshirt and it wasn't her size. 438 00:28:13,192 --> 00:28:16,404 We couldn't find it and I found it in like a total different place. 439 00:28:16,487 --> 00:28:20,282 And when I found it, I was like, "Scott, look. We found the sweater." 440 00:28:20,866 --> 00:28:26,455 And then, I'm on video with her and she's cutting it. 441 00:28:28,249 --> 00:28:32,336 I'm like… We were on FaceTime. I'm like, "What are you doing?" 442 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,339 She's like, "This is how everything is worn, Mom." 443 00:28:35,923 --> 00:28:38,801 I'm like, "Okay, I gotta get used to this. I gotta let it be." 444 00:28:40,803 --> 00:28:43,806 But yes… [sighs] …super glad we got that back. 445 00:28:47,184 --> 00:28:50,896 I feel like the struggle getting to this point was, 446 00:28:50,980 --> 00:28:52,148 "I can't do this. 447 00:28:54,608 --> 00:28:55,943 Uh, I just can't." 448 00:28:59,447 --> 00:29:03,075 But it's just not mentally healthy to waste time, 449 00:29:04,785 --> 00:29:08,789 other than laughing about Maddie, talking about Maddie. 450 00:29:09,957 --> 00:29:11,041 It's really all we do. 451 00:29:12,835 --> 00:29:18,966 There is very little place in my heart for holding on to anger. 452 00:29:19,049 --> 00:29:21,135 That's not what you heal from. 453 00:29:24,805 --> 00:29:27,391 A year ago, I couldn't have spoken to you at all. 454 00:29:27,475 --> 00:29:30,644 I couldn't have articulated any of this. 455 00:29:32,354 --> 00:29:35,357 And it's taken friends, family, time, 456 00:29:36,650 --> 00:29:41,405 to slowly creep out of that really, really bad place. 457 00:29:43,616 --> 00:29:46,535 And it's also reminding myself, like, 458 00:29:47,119 --> 00:29:51,457 how would Maddie and Kaylee want to see me? 459 00:29:52,416 --> 00:29:55,211 Would they want to see me crying in my pajamas and can't get out of bed? 460 00:29:56,128 --> 00:29:58,005 Or would they want to see me talking about them 461 00:29:58,088 --> 00:30:01,509 and how happy and how amazing they are? 462 00:30:03,511 --> 00:30:04,762 And that's a struggle. 463 00:30:07,348 --> 00:30:10,768 You never know how strong you are until strong is all you can be. 464 00:30:13,646 --> 00:30:17,525 This has always been her space, always will be her space. 465 00:30:18,609 --> 00:30:24,031 And… it's a place to come and just feel at peace, 466 00:30:25,241 --> 00:30:26,575 feel her presence. 467 00:30:31,914 --> 00:30:32,915 [sniffles] 468 00:31:09,493 --> 00:31:12,997 365 days since my life changed forever. 469 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,583 [sniffles] All of our lives changed forever. 470 00:31:16,959 --> 00:31:19,628 I read somewhere that once you lose someone you love, 471 00:31:20,379 --> 00:31:21,547 you gain an angel. 472 00:31:22,339 --> 00:31:25,718 Well, we have four amazing angels watching over all of us every day. 473 00:31:31,807 --> 00:31:35,436 Ethan was very, very witty. 474 00:31:36,061 --> 00:31:39,732 I think that was the most, like, noticeable thing about him. 475 00:31:39,815 --> 00:31:44,445 He's just always trying to be funny, and I loved that about him. 476 00:31:44,528 --> 00:31:48,991 -Minions! Tonight we steal the moon! -[friends cheer] 477 00:31:49,074 --> 00:31:53,037 [Myers] I remember all, you know, the different memories that we shared. 478 00:31:56,206 --> 00:31:58,292 [laughing] 479 00:31:58,375 --> 00:32:01,920 [Myers] Any time that I go to Taco Bell… [chuckles] …I think of Ethan. 480 00:32:02,004 --> 00:32:04,006 That was his favorite place by far. 481 00:32:04,548 --> 00:32:07,301 He was the first person I saw that opened up, 482 00:32:07,384 --> 00:32:09,678 he pre-opened up all of his Taco Bell packets 483 00:32:09,762 --> 00:32:12,556 so that he wouldn't have to stop, uh, eating. 484 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:13,766 He could just feast. 485 00:32:13,849 --> 00:32:15,601 And I remember I thought that was the funniest thing. 486 00:32:15,684 --> 00:32:19,188 And now every time I go to Taco Bell, I make sure that I, you know, 487 00:32:19,271 --> 00:32:23,275 pre-open like four or five first, you know, so I don't have to stop. 488 00:32:26,445 --> 00:32:29,657 I could go on and on about the person Xana was, 489 00:32:30,282 --> 00:32:33,285 but the little memories are what replay in my head over and over. 490 00:32:34,495 --> 00:32:36,288 Her backflips she would attempt, 491 00:32:37,039 --> 00:32:40,584 which usually resulted in her failing and popping right back up laughing, 492 00:32:40,668 --> 00:32:41,669 yelling, "I'm okay!" 493 00:32:41,752 --> 00:32:43,337 [laughing] 494 00:32:43,420 --> 00:32:47,675 Xana loved music. We called her "DJ Xan" all through college 495 00:32:47,758 --> 00:32:52,471 because she had the best music to play, and she was always playing it. 496 00:32:52,554 --> 00:32:55,224 She would bring her MacBook almost everywhere, 497 00:32:55,307 --> 00:32:56,642 and it doesn't matter where we were at. 498 00:32:56,725 --> 00:33:00,771 She would get on any chair and just stand with her laptop. 499 00:33:02,064 --> 00:33:05,192 [Couch] A lot of things come to my mind when I think about Maddie. 500 00:33:05,275 --> 00:33:07,861 Me and my friends would always reenact how she would dance, 501 00:33:07,945 --> 00:33:11,365 and we have so many videos of it just kind of putting her hand out 502 00:33:11,448 --> 00:33:13,242 and, like, bouncing like this. 503 00:33:14,284 --> 00:33:16,704 She just never cared who was watching. 504 00:33:19,790 --> 00:33:21,208 [chuckles] 505 00:33:22,167 --> 00:33:26,338 [Phoebe] Kaylee always had such a happy and joyful outlook on life. 506 00:33:27,047 --> 00:33:29,341 She was just ambitious and wanted… 507 00:33:30,092 --> 00:33:32,845 I think she just wanted to experience anything and everything she could. 508 00:33:33,762 --> 00:33:37,850 And that was… how she was gonna live her life. 509 00:33:37,933 --> 00:33:41,353 She decided it and she just did it. 510 00:33:42,771 --> 00:33:45,357 Whenever there's, like, a nice sunset or, like, really pretty sunset, 511 00:33:45,441 --> 00:33:48,277 like, we'll always text each other and be like, "Oh, Kaylee's saying hi." 512 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,363 [phones chiming] 513 00:33:59,580 --> 00:34:01,832 [Myers] As I sit back and think of all the memories, 514 00:34:01,915 --> 00:34:03,751 I've learned dwelling won't do anything. 515 00:34:04,376 --> 00:34:06,545 It's important to remember all the good times 516 00:34:06,628 --> 00:34:09,214 and be grateful for the relationships we were all able to form 517 00:34:09,298 --> 00:34:12,301 with Ethan, Xana, Madison and Kaylee. 518 00:34:12,384 --> 00:34:15,679 Even if it was for a short amount of time. [sniffles] 519 00:34:15,763 --> 00:34:19,433 To know Ethan, Xana, Madison and Kaylee 520 00:34:19,516 --> 00:34:22,561 was to love Ethan, Xana, Madison and Kaylee. 521 00:34:24,104 --> 00:34:26,106 We will now take a moment of silence. 522 00:34:35,032 --> 00:34:37,785 [Phoebe] I think that the world has made their idea 523 00:34:37,868 --> 00:34:40,120 of who Kaylee, Maddie, Xana and Ethan were. 524 00:34:41,163 --> 00:34:43,999 And so I think it's important to still emphasize, like, 525 00:34:44,666 --> 00:34:46,710 who they were as friends and who they were as people. 526 00:34:46,794 --> 00:34:49,046 They aren't just these victims. 527 00:34:51,965 --> 00:34:55,928 I-I don't think there'll ever be a full acceptance and closure of this… 528 00:34:57,971 --> 00:34:59,264 horrible thing that happened. 529 00:35:11,902 --> 00:35:12,903 [Johnson sniffs] 530 00:35:18,951 --> 00:35:21,870 [Johnson] Do we need to put that sweet soy glaze thing in here now? 531 00:35:21,954 --> 00:35:23,372 Oh, I don't know. Read about it. 532 00:35:25,749 --> 00:35:31,588 [Johnson] We graduated and we've been in Boise since 2023 of February. 533 00:35:32,214 --> 00:35:35,300 We just have been, like, putting pieces together since everything. 534 00:35:35,384 --> 00:35:36,385 Like, slowly. 535 00:35:38,053 --> 00:35:40,013 We were forced to, like, grow up. 536 00:35:40,097 --> 00:35:43,892 Um, and there's… There was never, like, you never get, 537 00:35:43,976 --> 00:35:45,686 like, told when you're gonna have to grow up. 538 00:35:45,769 --> 00:35:47,938 It's just, like, that was when it was for us. 539 00:35:50,732 --> 00:35:55,946 [Alandt] There's no longer thoughts of the world being a sweet, great place 540 00:35:56,029 --> 00:35:59,241 that you always know and truly believed it was. 541 00:36:03,203 --> 00:36:06,790 You know, I had long life goals for myself. 542 00:36:07,291 --> 00:36:10,127 I had a vision of what I wanted my life to look like. 543 00:36:10,836 --> 00:36:14,756 And I've given up on… [stammers] …some of my goals 544 00:36:16,049 --> 00:36:18,552 just 'cause I realized I'm a different person. 545 00:36:19,761 --> 00:36:23,515 I'm still working on the new me to be able to, um, 546 00:36:24,766 --> 00:36:27,102 get to a place to set goals again. 547 00:36:33,066 --> 00:36:36,069 [Lauteren] I hang out with a completely new group of people at U of I now, 548 00:36:36,904 --> 00:36:39,281 and it's kind of sad to say that. 549 00:36:39,364 --> 00:36:43,744 But it just was, like, at the time, it was nice to be with people that, 550 00:36:43,827 --> 00:36:46,914 like, honestly, didn't personally know them. 551 00:36:47,581 --> 00:36:50,167 Which is so weird to say. 552 00:36:54,546 --> 00:36:58,967 [Wood] It's a very bittersweet moment to say goodbye to my apartment. 553 00:36:59,551 --> 00:37:02,429 This was my first off-campus housing apartment. 554 00:37:02,930 --> 00:37:06,016 I loved it. Now, I'm moving out. 555 00:37:08,727 --> 00:37:10,395 This is my spare bedroom. 556 00:37:11,730 --> 00:37:15,400 This window faces 1122 King Road. 557 00:37:22,616 --> 00:37:28,455 They still have the same caution tape up 368 days later. 558 00:37:30,165 --> 00:37:34,503 It's a constant reminder that that's a crime scene that is still ongoing. 559 00:37:44,721 --> 00:37:48,308 [Hunter] My first two weeks back into school, uh, I didn't handle it very well. 560 00:37:49,393 --> 00:37:54,940 It's been a long road of emotions and roller coaster rides. 561 00:37:55,816 --> 00:37:57,651 It's like separation anxiety, almost. 562 00:37:59,361 --> 00:38:01,196 Finally, I'm doing pretty well though. 563 00:38:01,822 --> 00:38:05,826 A lot of people really helped me out and helped me get my life back on track. 564 00:38:07,244 --> 00:38:11,748 But my window is on the very end of our fraternity, 565 00:38:12,416 --> 00:38:16,670 which faces the opening of where that house is. 566 00:38:17,879 --> 00:38:20,507 So I wake up every morning and I open up the blinds, 567 00:38:21,299 --> 00:38:27,139 and that house is the first thing I see, boarded up, looking like shit over there. 568 00:38:28,682 --> 00:38:31,101 I just want it to go away so I don't have to look at it anymore. 569 00:38:41,445 --> 00:38:44,531 [reporter] It's a haunting reminder of an unthinkable tragedy, 570 00:38:44,614 --> 00:38:49,119 but soon the house at 1122 King Road will stand no more. 571 00:38:49,828 --> 00:38:52,039 The University of Idaho is saying in a statement, 572 00:38:52,581 --> 00:38:54,166 "It's time for its removal 573 00:38:54,249 --> 00:38:57,669 and to allow the collective healing of our community to continue." 574 00:39:10,307 --> 00:39:14,019 There is still so much speculation about what really happened in that house. 575 00:39:14,102 --> 00:39:16,605 There are still so many unanswered questions. 576 00:39:18,899 --> 00:39:22,152 [Johnson] When the trial comes, I will probably be very nervous. 577 00:39:24,154 --> 00:39:25,739 I've never had to deal with something like this, 578 00:39:25,822 --> 00:39:28,575 but, at the end of the day, I want justice. 579 00:39:28,658 --> 00:39:30,535 Justice for the families and for the friends. 580 00:39:32,496 --> 00:39:36,124 [Lauteren] I would feel the most, like, closure 581 00:39:36,208 --> 00:39:40,962 if the suspect actually admits he did it, 582 00:39:41,046 --> 00:39:45,967 or it's, like, confirmed in the trial and he gets put in jail. 583 00:39:46,051 --> 00:39:48,053 Forever would be nice. 584 00:40:02,651 --> 00:40:04,653 [Alandt] I don't follow the case at all anymore. 585 00:40:07,447 --> 00:40:11,451 I don't have care in the world to keep 586 00:40:12,702 --> 00:40:15,956 seeing everything be untrue. 587 00:40:16,790 --> 00:40:21,545 I think the-the hardest part about this process 588 00:40:21,628 --> 00:40:24,047 is nobody has it right. 589 00:40:25,298 --> 00:40:26,550 [no audible dialogue] 590 00:40:26,633 --> 00:40:28,301 And it's frustrating to see… 591 00:40:31,179 --> 00:40:34,599 so many people talk about Bryan Kohberger. 592 00:40:35,809 --> 00:40:38,311 I think he's a loser that shouldn't get talked about at all. 593 00:40:39,354 --> 00:40:42,524 I think the only true story should be about their lives. 594 00:40:44,025 --> 00:40:46,111 [Hunter] Getting the story out there feels right 595 00:40:46,903 --> 00:40:49,322 because it's really important that I'm the one telling it 596 00:40:49,406 --> 00:40:52,826 instead of some random ass person. 597 00:40:54,744 --> 00:40:58,957 [Stacy] There's just parts of it that need to remain just ours. 598 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,251 You know, we care that we are the ones who tell his story 599 00:41:01,334 --> 00:41:03,336 and capture his true spirit. 600 00:41:05,130 --> 00:41:08,049 [Karen] I loved… I love those girls. 601 00:41:08,133 --> 00:41:09,718 We're not gonna talk in past tense. 602 00:41:11,511 --> 00:41:12,512 I will love them. 603 00:41:13,346 --> 00:41:14,764 I'll remember them. 604 00:41:14,848 --> 00:41:16,099 I will cry about them. 605 00:41:16,850 --> 00:41:19,853 I will continue to keep them alive. s.