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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">In Autumn 2019,
I got a call from a source.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">He asks me,
"Have you ever looked into Wirecard?"</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">"The payment processor? No."</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">"It's a very strange company."</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">"Companies are being set up."</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">"Money comes in, money goes out."</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">That is totally spooky.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">He'd been called by foreign friends</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">who used to work in intelligence agencies,</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">and they warned him,</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">"Are you interested in Wirecard?"</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">"Keep your hands off it."</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Mr. Braun, reports about your business</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">read like a financial thriller.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Bogus sales,</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">balance sheet manipulations,
many allegations.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">The former COO,
Jan Marsalek, is on the run.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">The biggest fraud scandal
in German history.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">There's
an international manhunt for Jan Marsalek.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">It's unbelievable how something
like this can survive for so long.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">It was clear to me
this was going to be a huge story.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Scammers take advantage
of people's desires.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">In Germany, the desire was,
"We want to be at the front of the pack."</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Germany's industry is extremely successful</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">but very old, very traditional.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">These famous German brands
like Siemens, Daimler, BMW, Volkswagen,</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">these are all very old companies.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">That's why German politicians</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">and German business people
are often asked,</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">"Where are actually your new companies?"</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">We want a major, global,
digital champion of our own</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">like in Silicon Valley.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">The German Google, the German Facebook.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">And Wirecard played
on that desire beautifully.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Wirecard was like the German PayPal.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Wirecard the processor</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">for online trade, online shops.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">They make sure when I buy something,</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">the money gets from my credit card
to the online retailer.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">There's a company founder dressed</font>

41
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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">in a black turtleneck
with a neat turn of phrase…</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">…who presents himself as a visionary.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">The "Steve Jobs of the Alps."</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Wirecard is one of
the fastest-growing</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">financial commerce platforms.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Wirecard jumped
on the digital train in the '90s</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">that continues to pick up speed,</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">and now Wirecard
has even overtaken Deutsche Bank</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">with their worth placed
at over €20 billion.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">A symbol
for the new era of the finance sector.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">This was a company on the rise.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">It grew unlike any other company
we'd seen in Germany.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">And that rise, that immense growth,
led many people to believe in it.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">New, successful,
global, profitable</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">and German politicians were proud
to be able to say,</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">"Hey. We have a FinTech company!"</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">When the chancellor went to China,</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">she actually campaigned
for Wirecard in 2019 with Xi Jinping.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Everyone in Germany
believed in this company.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">No one would have believed
that this was the work of gangsters.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Outside of Europe,
we see a growth of 25%</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">strongly driven by new regions,
by developing regions of Asia.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">My name is Tobias Bosler,</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">and I have been,
for many years, a short seller.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Most people invest
thinking a share price will rise.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">A short seller differs from an investor
by making money when a share price falls</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">and loses money when it increases.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">I investigated Wirecard for two years.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">I understood its business model perfectly.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">It handled payments for online businesses
in pornography and online gambling,</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">but it wasn't illegal.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">What would you call them?</font>

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00:12:43,745 --> 00:12:46,385
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">- Are you joking?
-I'm not joking.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">The poker market in the US
was 50% of the global poker market.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">But that all changed in 2006</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">when a new law in America made it illegal</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">to handle payments
for US citizens playing poker.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">So Wirecard lost a major source of income.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">But, in spite of this law,
the profits of Wirecard kept rising.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">What company is able to do that?</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">This can't be right.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">In Germany,
short sellers have a bad reputation.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">The perception is because they are betting
on the share price dropping,</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">they are actively seeking
to destroy companies.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Jobs are lost and that can't be good.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">The Zatarra Report
wasn't seen as credible.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">The criticism was always,
"What kind of report is this?"</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">"There isn't enough evidence
to back up its claims."</font>

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00:20:24,865 --> 00:20:26,665
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">"It's just mud-slinging</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">because German companies
do not make mistakes."</font>

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00:20:33,225 --> 00:20:38,065
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">It was seen very strongly as an attack
on Germany itself, on German companies.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">A few weeks
after I opened the short position,</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">I got a call from the Wirecard lawyer.</font>

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00:22:46,345 --> 00:22:49,145
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">He says, "You are short-selling Wirecard."</font>

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00:22:49,225 --> 00:22:51,905
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">I thought, "How did you figure that out?"</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">He read me all the transactions.</font>

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00:22:55,745 --> 00:22:58,945
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Date, time, amount, rate.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">He knew everything.
Then he says, "We need to talk."</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">He arrived with two thugs.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">They looked exactly
as you imagine thugs to be.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Straightaway they pushed me</font>

102
00:23:19,665 --> 00:23:24,545
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">and punched the wall with full force.</font>

103
00:23:26,545 --> 00:23:29,185
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">I admit I was really scared.</font>

104
00:23:32,505 --> 00:23:37,545
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">What company sends a bunch of thugs
to an investor's office?</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">After that,
I stopped looking into Wirecard.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">I let it be.</font>

107
00:23:47,305 --> 00:23:49,905
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">And no one else looked closely
into Wirecard,</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">except Dan McCrum.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">My dear shareholders…</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Well, if I find a weak spot, but I'm…</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">It's not working. It's not cold enough.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Marsalek is a completely different type.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Extremely charming,</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">very approachable, a great communicator.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Everything Braun didn't have,
Marsalek had,</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">which is why they were a great team.</font>

117
00:26:10,905 --> 00:26:15,585
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">I think that very few people knew
who Jan Marsalek really was.</font>

118
00:26:17,825 --> 00:26:20,625
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">He is certainly
at the center of this scandal.</font>

119
00:26:20,705 --> 00:26:24,425
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">He is the one
who made sure that the turnover</font>

120
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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">was always the way his boss,
Braun, wanted.</font>

121
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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">The German Stock Exchange
is richer because of one company.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">The payment-processing company,
Wirecard, from Aschheim near Munich</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">has made the leap
into the stock market premier league.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Wirecard's share price last year
was €77.40.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Today it stands at €189.40.</font>

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00:26:57,225 --> 00:27:00,505
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Our figures tell a story
of strong growth.</font>

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00:27:00,585 --> 00:27:04,545
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">How our business is valued
is a question for the investors.</font>

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00:27:05,345 --> 00:27:08,785
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Wirecard has shaken up
the German stock exchange this week</font>

129
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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">and kicked the Commerzbank
out of the elite DAX index.</font>

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00:27:43,305 --> 00:27:46,065
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">A lot of investors
believe in German values,</font>

131
00:27:46,145 --> 00:27:48,865
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">and now it has the DAX seal of approval.</font>

132
00:27:48,945 --> 00:27:51,305
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">So a lot of people thought a DAX company</font>

133
00:27:51,385 --> 00:27:56,785
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">would be tightly regulated
by the German authorities.</font>

134
00:27:57,705 --> 00:28:00,505
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Who wouldn't be thrilled
to have money invested in Wirecard?</font>

135
00:28:50,265 --> 00:28:52,985
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">-What's with the glasses?
- Best without glasses.</font>

136
00:44:51,465 --> 00:44:57,225
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">I only heard about
the Financial Times' coverage secondhand.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">NEW ATTACK ON WIRECARD</font>

138
00:44:58,465 --> 00:45:00,105
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">It was the typical bias.</font>

139
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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">They said, "It is a foreign conspiracy
against a German company."</font>

140
00:45:04,185 --> 00:45:07,265
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">"A German company is the victim
and must be protected."</font>

141
00:45:09,105 --> 00:45:13,225
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Wirecard had hired
a famous lawyer in Bavaria.</font>

142
00:45:15,385 --> 00:45:20,545
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">The lawyer said
to the public prosecutor, Baumler-Hosl,</font>

143
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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">that Wirecard is under attack
by short sellers</font>

144
00:45:24,345 --> 00:45:26,425
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">and its very existence is in jeopardy.</font>

145
00:45:27,225 --> 00:45:31,145
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Hildegard Baumler-Hosl contacted
the German financial regulator.</font>

146
00:45:31,225 --> 00:45:35,625
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">The regulator BaFin then said,
"We need to protect Wirecard."</font>

147
00:45:35,705 --> 00:45:39,145
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">And banned short-selling
of Wirecard shares.</font>

148
00:45:39,225 --> 00:45:44,145
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">And even filed criminal charges
against Dan McCrum and Stefania Palma.</font>

149
00:51:08,505 --> 00:51:11,945
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">This financial thriller
continues with the latest punch-up</font>

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00:51:12,025 --> 00:51:14,145
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">between Wirecard and the Financial Times.</font>

151
00:51:22,665 --> 00:51:25,905
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">In February,
there were new articles and allegations</font>

152
00:51:25,985 --> 00:51:27,745
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">and the share price fell again.</font>

153
00:51:28,905 --> 00:51:31,905
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">At the end of March,
new accusations were published</font>

154
00:51:31,985 --> 00:51:34,345
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">and the share price collapsed once again.</font>

155
00:51:34,425 --> 00:51:37,785
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">A BILLIONAIRE ON THE DEFENSIVE</font>

156
00:52:02,105 --> 00:52:04,665
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">- Sound running.
-Okay. Let's start.</font>

157
00:52:05,305 --> 00:52:10,905
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">How do you personally go about scandals,
confusion, chaos?</font>

158
00:52:10,985 --> 00:52:12,945
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Have you ever thought about resigning?</font>

159
00:52:13,025 --> 00:52:15,025
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">I've never thought
about resignation.</font>

160
00:52:15,105 --> 00:52:17,865
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Can you exclude the possibility
of more dirty laundry airing</font>

161
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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">that will put the share price
under pressure?</font>

162
00:52:20,025 --> 00:52:23,145
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">We firmly reject
these serious allegations.</font>

163
00:52:23,225 --> 00:52:28,785
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">We think these allegations
are mainly market speculations.</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">At the Frankfurt stock exchange,</font>

165
00:52:45,545 --> 00:52:49,705
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Wirecard has announced its annual results,
increasing its profits by 35%,</font>

166
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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">an increase of €350 million,</font>

167
00:52:52,505 --> 00:52:55,065
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">and says it will continue
to grow this year.</font>

168
00:55:16,665 --> 00:55:18,785
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Drink as much as you can take, here!</font>

169
00:57:12,785 --> 00:57:14,905
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">-Hey. I'm Nick Gold.
- Hello, Nick. How are you?</font>

170
00:57:14,985 --> 00:57:18,065
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">What sort of size business
were you thinking of doing?</font>

171
00:57:18,145 --> 00:57:20,625
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">At the moment,
they are looking at investing €50 million.</font>

172
00:57:20,705 --> 00:57:21,545
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Okay.</font>

173
00:57:22,305 --> 00:57:25,225
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">There was a short seller, Nick Gold,</font>

174
00:57:25,305 --> 00:57:30,945
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">who met with an investor
who secretly recorded him.</font>

175
00:57:31,465 --> 00:57:33,985
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">This is as good as it gets in terms of--</font>

176
00:57:34,065 --> 00:57:36,105
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">-We know the article's coming.
-Okay.</font>

177
00:57:36,185 --> 00:57:37,745
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">And I bet it's gonna be today.</font>

178
00:57:38,225 --> 00:57:41,345
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">We know now that this investor
was actually a private detective</font>

179
00:57:41,425 --> 00:57:46,825
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">who was hired
by someone associated with Wirecard.</font>

180
00:59:44,665 --> 00:59:47,025
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">I'm Jorg Schmitt
from the Süddeutsche Zeitung.</font>

181
00:59:47,945 --> 00:59:50,945
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">I'm the chief editor
of the investigations team.</font>

182
00:59:51,465 --> 00:59:56,345
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">I was at my desk when I suddenly
got a call from an unknown number.</font>

183
00:59:57,265 --> 00:59:59,825
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">On the other end was a young woman.</font>

184
00:59:59,905 --> 01:00:02,025
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">She said,
"Are you interested in Wirecard?"</font>

185
01:00:03,265 --> 01:00:05,705
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">"Do you know Prinzregentenstrasse 61?"</font>

186
01:00:05,785 --> 01:00:09,065
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">"It's the secret office of Jan Marsalek."</font>

187
01:00:09,905 --> 01:00:13,065
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Even colleagues closest
to Marsalek didn't know</font>

188
01:00:13,145 --> 01:00:16,345
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">that there was this second office
in the Prinzregentenstrasse.</font>

189
01:00:17,105 --> 01:00:21,945
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">He would meet
with a very illustrious circle of people,</font>

190
01:00:22,025 --> 01:00:25,785
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">do business, and host wild parties.</font>

191
01:00:27,665 --> 01:00:31,585
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">It's Marsalek's boy gang, I'd say.</font>

192
01:00:31,665 --> 01:00:33,145
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">We always find Martin W.,</font>

193
01:00:33,225 --> 01:00:36,465
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">who had been
in the Austrian secret service.</font>

194
01:00:36,545 --> 01:00:41,425
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">El-Obeidi,
a former Libyan intelligence officer.</font>

195
01:00:41,945 --> 01:00:48,865
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Stani, a Russian who was supposedly
in Munich visiting his sick mother,</font>

196
01:00:48,945 --> 01:00:55,145
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">but we think he was probably an FSB man,
a Russian secret-service agent.</font>

197
01:00:56,145 --> 01:01:02,825
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">So suddenly
we had three former intelligence agents</font>

198
01:01:02,905 --> 01:01:07,505
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">who were in and around
the Prinzregentenstrasse.</font>

199
01:01:07,585 --> 01:01:11,745
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">And the thing is the Prinzregentenstrasse
is not just anywhere in Munich.</font>

200
01:01:11,825 --> 01:01:15,025
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">It is directly opposite
the Russian consulate.</font>

201
01:01:16,785 --> 01:01:19,505
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">There is obviously
a secret-service connection.</font>

202
01:01:20,625 --> 01:01:22,185
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">That electrified me.</font>

203
01:01:23,665 --> 01:01:28,705
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Why might Marsalek be so interesting
to intelligence agencies?</font>

204
01:01:31,265 --> 01:01:33,065
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Wirecard is a company</font>

205
01:01:33,145 --> 01:01:35,985
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">through which there are billions
of transactions every year.</font>

206
01:01:36,625 --> 01:01:40,225
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">And these payments are gold mines
for the secret services</font>

207
01:01:40,305 --> 01:01:43,705
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">because they show who could be compromised</font>

208
01:01:43,785 --> 01:01:47,985
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">because their creditcard information
could show porn usage,</font>

209
01:01:48,065 --> 01:01:50,025
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">brothel visits, or whatever else.</font>

210
01:01:52,425 --> 01:01:54,185
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">To have a source like Marsalek</font>

211
01:01:54,265 --> 01:01:56,745
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">who is always
on the move around the world,</font>

212
01:01:56,825 --> 01:01:58,665
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">that makes a lot of sense.</font>

213
01:02:46,345 --> 01:02:50,145
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Vienna is sadly mostly
an inviting terrain</font>

214
01:02:50,225 --> 01:02:52,305
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">for intelligence officers,</font>

215
01:02:52,385 --> 01:02:57,105
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">for dubious characters,
spies, economic spies.</font>

216
01:06:45,465 --> 01:06:48,385
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Border security in Libya was a topic that,</font>

217
01:06:48,465 --> 01:06:53,545
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">for a COO of a company like Wirecard,
wasn't normal in the slightest.</font>

218
01:06:54,665 --> 01:06:58,345
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">As time went on, I asked myself,
"What does he want in Libya?"</font>

219
01:06:58,425 --> 01:07:01,665
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">"And why does he seem
to be getting support</font>

220
01:07:01,745 --> 01:07:04,145
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">from within the Austrian government</font>

221
01:07:04,225 --> 01:07:07,665
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">for a project
that doesn't have humanitarian aims?"</font>

222
01:07:16,505 --> 01:07:19,945
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">If you ignore negative trends</font>

223
01:07:20,025 --> 01:07:23,265
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">or if you let immigration go unchecked,</font>

224
01:07:23,345 --> 01:07:25,785
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">things will go downhill very quickly.</font>

225
01:07:34,905 --> 01:07:37,585
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">It is logical that if Russia</font>

226
01:07:37,665 --> 01:07:40,065
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">wants to destabilize Europe,</font>

227
01:07:41,145 --> 01:07:45,945
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">they would try to create anxiety
over supposed waves of refugees</font>

228
01:07:46,025 --> 01:07:49,825
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">to create a narrative
that heats the debate again.</font>

229
01:07:51,025 --> 01:07:53,825
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Marsalek has very good contacts in Russia.</font>

230
01:07:55,385 --> 01:07:59,225
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">That's why it's plausible
that Jan Marsalek could have been trying</font>

231
01:07:59,305 --> 01:08:01,505
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">to set something up for the Russians.</font>

232
01:11:05,985 --> 01:11:08,465
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">It's criminal to wiretap journalists.</font>

233
01:11:08,545 --> 01:11:11,345
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">It's criminal
to hack their email accounts.</font>

234
01:11:12,025 --> 01:11:18,545
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">The worst part was that this intimidation
was quite successful.</font>

235
01:11:19,385 --> 01:11:23,625
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">The Financial Times had launched
an internal inquiry into Dan McCrum,</font>

236
01:11:23,705 --> 01:11:26,865
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">and Wirecard made the most of this time,</font>

237
01:11:26,945 --> 01:11:29,465
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">and its market price kept rising.</font>

238
01:11:29,545 --> 01:11:36,145
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">They even got the German Chancellor
to promote the company in China.</font>

239
01:11:36,225 --> 01:11:39,625
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">All this happened in those months
when the Financial Times</font>

240
01:11:39,705 --> 01:11:42,185
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">didn't write anything critical
of Wirecard.</font>

241
01:14:21,025 --> 01:14:24,305
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Dr. Markus Braun, you've decided</font>

242
01:14:24,385 --> 01:14:27,105
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">to carry out an external audit</font>

243
01:14:27,185 --> 01:14:32,305
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">due to the allegations
that the FT have made.</font>

244
01:14:32,385 --> 01:14:34,865
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">The question is, "Why only now?"</font>

245
01:14:35,745 --> 01:14:37,305
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Well, we reacted very quickly.</font>

246
01:14:37,385 --> 01:14:41,225
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">The newspaper article was published
only over a week ago.</font>

247
01:14:42,665 --> 01:14:46,505
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">At first, Braun didn't want this inquiry.</font>

248
01:14:46,585 --> 01:14:50,785
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">We reject these allegations 100%.</font>

249
01:14:51,385 --> 01:14:55,585
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">People at Wirecard must have known
that this is going to be troublesome.</font>

250
01:14:55,665 --> 01:14:58,265
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">When will the auditors present
their report?</font>

251
01:14:58,905 --> 01:15:03,425
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">I don't want to jump the gun,
but we think within a few months.</font>

252
01:15:03,505 --> 01:15:07,785
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">We believe
we will have results very quickly.</font>

253
01:15:32,745 --> 01:15:34,585
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">My name is Joachim Giehl.</font>

254
01:15:35,385 --> 01:15:37,865
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">I am Markus Braun's neighbor.</font>

255
01:15:40,465 --> 01:15:42,745
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">I always had the impression</font>

256
01:15:42,825 --> 01:15:45,425
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">that this man is under
a massive amount of pressure.</font>

257
01:15:48,625 --> 01:15:51,665
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">He greeted nobody as his neighbor.</font>

258
01:15:51,745 --> 01:15:53,905
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">He always just got in his car.</font>

259
01:15:53,985 --> 01:15:55,945
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">No hello, no nothing.</font>

260
01:16:00,865 --> 01:16:06,065
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">There was one day, around 8:30 p.m.,</font>

261
01:16:06,145 --> 01:16:09,105
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">I parked my car in the garage.</font>

262
01:16:09,705 --> 01:16:15,305
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">It was dark, and I saw Markus Braun
at the entrance to our building.</font>

263
01:16:17,145 --> 01:16:22,025
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">I saw him in the lamplight,
and he looked extremely tense.</font>

264
01:16:24,025 --> 01:16:29,065
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">He was surrounded by some men
whom I didn't recognize.</font>

265
01:16:31,865 --> 01:16:33,345
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">They seemed out of place.</font>

266
01:16:35,305 --> 01:16:37,705
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">They didn't look like businesspeople.</font>

267
01:16:37,785 --> 01:16:43,105
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">They looked like people
who work as security, bodyguards,</font>

268
01:16:43,185 --> 01:16:45,385
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">a group of thugs…</font>

269
01:16:45,465 --> 01:16:47,225
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">…or people like that.</font>

270
01:16:48,785 --> 01:16:52,345
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">They didn't look
like they were there to protect him.</font>

271
01:16:52,425 --> 01:16:56,665
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Rather, I thought they were there…</font>

272
01:16:58,305 --> 01:16:59,465
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">…to do a job.</font>

273
01:17:59,345 --> 01:18:01,745
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">It was called "Project Panther,"</font>

274
01:18:01,825 --> 01:18:04,465
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">a plan for a hostile takeover.</font>

275
01:18:05,065 --> 01:18:09,545
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">A large consulting company
put a document together</font>

276
01:18:09,625 --> 01:18:13,025
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">which showed how it could make sense</font>

277
01:18:13,105 --> 01:18:15,585
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">to merge an old bank
with a new tech company.</font>

278
01:18:17,185 --> 01:18:20,865
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">The "Wirebank,"
or whatever it would have been called.</font>

279
01:18:22,425 --> 01:18:24,865
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">The idea was</font>

280
01:18:24,945 --> 01:18:27,865
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">if you merged these two companies,</font>

281
01:18:27,945 --> 01:18:32,025
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">with the Deutsche Bank balance
being so much bigger than Wirecard's,</font>

282
01:18:32,105 --> 01:18:36,545
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">that then maybe the fraud at Wirecard
would somehow get swept under the rug.</font>

283
01:20:48,065 --> 01:20:53,065
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Auditors can
no longer locate €1.9 billion</font>

284
01:20:53,145 --> 01:20:55,785
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">that are said to be
in escrow accounts in Asia.</font>

285
01:20:55,865 --> 01:20:58,025
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">The two banks
in the Philippines</font>

286
01:20:58,105 --> 01:21:00,545
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">where the €1.9 billion was supposed to be</font>

287
01:21:00,625 --> 01:21:03,025
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">said today
that they had no business relations</font>

288
01:21:03,105 --> 01:21:04,785
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">with the payments processor.</font>

289
01:21:04,865 --> 01:21:06,345
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">The documents were faked.</font>

290
01:21:29,505 --> 01:21:34,265
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">The share price plunged by 70%.</font>

291
01:22:05,465 --> 01:22:07,625
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Ladies and gentlemen,</font>

292
01:22:07,705 --> 01:22:10,825
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">on behalf
of the management board of Wirecard,</font>

293
01:22:10,905 --> 01:22:13,025
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">I would like to give
the following explanation.</font>

294
01:22:13,105 --> 01:22:16,065
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">The press conference that night
was like The Muppet Show.</font>

295
01:22:17,505 --> 01:22:19,585
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Braun reads from the teleprompter.</font>

296
01:22:21,025 --> 01:22:23,145
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">The death sentence
has already been handed out,</font>

297
01:22:23,225 --> 01:22:27,785
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">and he's still making it seem
as if he's going to announce</font>

298
01:22:27,865 --> 01:22:30,865
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">an amazing quarterly report next month.</font>

299
01:22:31,465 --> 01:22:36,225
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Right now,
it cannot be ruled out that Wirecard</font>

300
01:22:36,305 --> 01:22:39,625
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">has become the damaged party</font>

301
01:22:39,705 --> 01:22:43,145
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">in a fraud case
of considerable proportions.</font>

302
01:23:01,785 --> 01:23:05,905
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Where is the COO
of the insolvent payment processor,</font>

303
01:23:05,985 --> 01:23:08,865
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Wirecard, the Austrian, Jan Marsalek?</font>

304
01:23:26,305 --> 01:23:28,865
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">An agent always has an escape route.</font>

305
01:23:30,945 --> 01:23:36,065
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">We knew that Marsalek was in the office
until that Friday afternoon.</font>

306
01:23:36,705 --> 01:23:39,025
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">He supposedly said</font>

307
01:23:39,105 --> 01:23:42,065
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">he had to go to the Philippines
to clear the whole thing up.</font>

308
01:23:44,505 --> 01:23:48,465
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">He went for dinner
with Martin W. that evening.</font>

309
01:23:50,465 --> 01:23:53,105
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Martin W., who he knew
from the Prinzregentenstrasse</font>

310
01:23:53,185 --> 01:23:56,225
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">and who used to be
in the Austrian secret service</font>

311
01:23:56,305 --> 01:24:00,425
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">together with an Austrian,
right-wing politician</font>

312
01:24:00,505 --> 01:24:02,345
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">booked Marsalek a flight.</font>

313
01:24:03,825 --> 01:24:07,465
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Marsalek paid close to €8,000 in cash…</font>

314
01:24:09,025 --> 01:24:10,865
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">and then his trail disappeared.</font>

315
01:24:13,945 --> 01:24:15,505
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">He didn't go to the Philippines.</font>

316
01:24:15,585 --> 01:24:16,585
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">It doesn't make sense.</font>

317
01:24:16,665 --> 01:24:21,385
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">He couldn't have entered the country
because of quarantine regulations.</font>

318
01:24:22,585 --> 01:24:25,265
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">There are databases
where you can check flight data.</font>

319
01:24:25,945 --> 01:24:31,105
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Since 2015,
he flew at least 60 times to Russia.</font>

320
01:24:31,625 --> 01:24:34,025
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">And there was one flight</font>

321
01:24:34,105 --> 01:24:38,905
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">from a small airport near Vienna to Minsk.</font>

322
01:24:41,145 --> 01:24:42,585
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">It's not far from Moscow.</font>

323
01:24:43,145 --> 01:24:48,425
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">The border to Russia is not controlled,
and that's where the trail is lost.</font>

324
01:24:49,625 --> 01:24:52,225
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">After that, it's just rumors.</font>

325
01:24:56,145 --> 01:24:58,065
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">We don't know for certain if Marsalek</font>

326
01:24:58,145 --> 01:25:01,505
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">was actually a secret-service informant
or not.</font>

327
01:25:03,585 --> 01:25:06,065
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Jan Marsalek was
very well-connected</font>

328
01:25:06,145 --> 01:25:08,785
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">in the secret service parallel world,</font>

329
01:25:08,865 --> 01:25:12,225
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">and that's why I think he won't be
that easy to find.</font>

330
01:25:15,865 --> 01:25:18,465
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">We know
that he's online occasionally</font>

331
01:25:18,545 --> 01:25:22,185
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">via an old Telegram account.</font>

332
01:25:24,905 --> 01:25:26,385
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">I can check again.</font>

333
01:25:29,185 --> 01:25:33,985
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">He's been online every few months.</font>

334
01:25:35,585 --> 01:25:40,985
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">The last time was on May 27, 2021.</font>

335
01:25:48,625 --> 01:25:50,865
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">The German parliament has started</font>

336
01:25:50,945 --> 01:25:53,065
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">a political inquiry into Wirecard,</font>

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01:25:53,145 --> 01:25:56,065
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">one of the biggest scandals
of the German republic.</font>

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01:25:56,145 --> 01:26:00,865
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">A financial disaster for those
who invested their money in Wirecard.</font>

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01:26:02,465 --> 01:26:07,545
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">It was
the first DAX-listed company to go bust.</font>

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01:26:20,385 --> 01:26:23,625
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">I think that Wirecard's inner circle</font>

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01:26:23,705 --> 01:26:27,545
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">who knew what was really going on
was very small.</font>

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01:26:28,705 --> 01:26:29,825
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Certainly Marsalek.</font>

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01:26:30,705 --> 01:26:34,825
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">The fascinating question is,
"What did Braun know about all this?"</font>

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01:26:43,505 --> 01:26:46,145
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">He wasn't emotional.
He was very tense.</font>

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01:26:47,425 --> 01:26:50,225
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">And then he gave
a short opening statement.</font>

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01:26:51,105 --> 01:26:55,225
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">"All I can say… is we were all deceived."</font>

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<font face="sans-serif" size="71">"I'm a victim."</font>

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01:26:58,825 --> 01:27:02,105
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">And then his lawyer said
he won't answer any further questions.</font>

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01:27:02,785 --> 01:27:07,185
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">He really sat there for three hours
and didn't answer.</font>

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01:27:30,025 --> 01:27:34,265
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">I think so far,
we only know the tip of the iceberg.</font>

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01:27:34,345 --> 01:27:39,505
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">Unless Jan Marsalek turns up somewhere
and breaks his silence,</font>

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01:27:39,585 --> 01:27:41,985
<font face="sans-serif" size="71">only then will we get the full story.</font>

